Why the Sphag-n-bag Method Doesn't Work & How to Do It Right

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Sphag & Bag Method: Rescuing an Orchid with no Roots
Occasionally when you repot, you’ll pull out what seemed like a healthy orchid out only to find it has no roots-not one. How do you save an orchid with no roots? There’s hope to rescuing this rootless orchid, using a method called the Sphag and Bag Technique, and help it grow new roots. But first, you have to know what caused the roots to fall off in the first place.
With no roots, orchids are also slowly dehydrating and will die if not treated. Sphag and Bag Method prolongs the time an orchid has before dying, enough to hopefully grow a new root. The aim of the Sphag and Bag Method is to raise the humidity around the leaves so they will absorb water in the newly created micro-atmosphere. With enough water, an orchid with no roots will eventually create new roots.
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@petrichor7121 3 года назад

I watched this not because I needed to right away, but because I lost so may orchids already and I know the information will be useful. I've only been subscribed to your channel for about a month now and I've already saved three plants! Not only that, your story has also inspired me to move into my passion to create (off-topic..loll!!). In short, thank you! And thank God for leading me to your channel.. 💞

@Orchideria 3 года назад

Oh wow, Petri! Thank you for such encouraging words. I appreciate it. 🙏

@veronicadenzo3763 3 года назад

I’d love to watch and learn how to take care of orchids ! I think while you are explaing you can show it how to do it at the same time otherwise it’s too long !😀 have a nice day!!!

@Orchideria 3 года назад

Hi Veronica, Thank you so much for the feedback! I appreciate it. In the next videos I make, I'll work on that. :)

@brendaperez8581 2 года назад

I love this video because I actually had a phalynopsis orchid Without a root but could you please, please show how to put it in the cup and then in the bag. Thank you

@anngilbert9643 2 года назад

I love your videos. They are so informative. I have been growing orchids & learned a lot from trial & error, but glad I found you!!

@Orchideria 2 года назад

Hi Ann, Thank you! I'm so glad the videos are helping.

@josephrapp7211 3 года назад

Excellent! Thank you, Amanda

@Orchideria 3 года назад

Hi Joseph, Thank you for watching and for leaving a comment! I appreciate it.

@iant.gilchrist4264 3 года назад

I love your videos. You always give us great information. Thank you.

@Orchideria 3 года назад

Hi Ian, Thank you for your support! I appreciate it. 🙏

@davidgreen424 2 года назад

Wow so much great advice in one short video , thanks.

@Orchideria 2 года назад

Hi David, Thanks for watching.

@ME-mo9ez 3 года назад

Good morning Amanda I have used a similar method but with a 2 liter pop (Canada) bottle cutting the bottle half way down placing a plant pot upside down on the base, adding warm water to the base and placing the plant on the top of the pot and squeezing the top part of the bottle onto the bottom part and removing the cap

@Orchideria 3 года назад

Hi ME, Good morning in Canada! I've seen this done before but haven't tested it. It seems like a very reliable method that gives great results. Thanks for adding this!

@geraldtucker9002 2 года назад

Great video

@Orchideria 2 года назад

Thank you

@robinnitowski2009 Год назад

I’m going to try this

@tallybeaverman9462 3 года назад

I grow my own Sphagnum Moss. Made a Bog Garden for my Carnivorous Plants, and visited bogs on public lands in search of the Elusive Florida Panhandle Sphagnum Moss for the Bog Garden. Actually it grows everywhere up here. The squirrels dug up my moss and Venus Flytraps. I moved my plants out of there, but have a over abundance of moss. It grows pretty fast, they dig it up, throw some in the sand, it dries out and now the birds are using the dried stuff to line the bird houses I built for them. And I use some to mix in the carnivorous potting mix I make for them. Then I also use it for my Orchids sparingly when I run out of the store bought moss I normally use. The local Sphagnum seems to work just as well for potted orchids. But I dont use much, everytime I repot a store bought orchid and find root rot, it was packed tight in Sphagnum Moss. I use it on mounts until the plant is established.

@Orchideria 3 года назад

Hi Tally! Thank you for commenting. I always like your comments because they present a new way of looking at things. The orchids with store bought sphagnum moss packed in so tight is a sure way to get root rot-- at least for me. I'm still testing a few to see if I can get my watering regime right with that because if nurseries do it, then we should be able to also, right? So far, none of those are working out very well. I had a friend in Brazil (Rio) who used only sphagnum packed in those pot (and his didn't have slits and holes) and his orchids were gorgeous. Of course his conditions were all different then mine, with high humidity, ocean front, high temperatures, constant rains... I'll get my orchid skills there one day. ;)

@tallybeaverman9462 3 года назад

@@Orchideria Just bought a CITIES Permitted Florida Native Cigar Orchid (Crytopodium andersonii) from a licensed collector in Fort Myers, Fl. He claims he has to water his plants 3 times a day because of the heat down there. I'm trying Coco Coir with hydroponics pots. Coco Coir holds moisture longer, it last up to 5 yrs, and it doesn't pack. My first repotting with Coco Coir, I used dry media, then watered it after I potted the plant. 2 hrs later the Coco Coir had swelled up and pushed the top layer out of the pot, like chunks of dried sponges soaked in a cup. That was amazing, you simply can't over pack the pot, it won't let you. Plus there was air spaces throughout the media. Now I soak it in plant food water before potting. Problem was, it takes 5 to 6 days to dry out in normal pots, so I am changing over to hydroponics pots with maximum holes throughout. It seems to be drying out in 4 to 5 days now, helping me sleep easier. I guess it is a struggle to find the right media, and the proper watering regimen for your particular climate. I did find watering advice from a Mega Grower that help me. All I have heard so far is to soak an orchid in water for 30 minutes, this lady (with orchids as far as the eye can see) says to dunk & drain. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vhKGERXbSo0.html My advice as a newbie is to find a media you like, and figure out how to make it dry out completely within 4 to 5 days. That may change as I learn more, for now it works pretty good for me.

@Orchideria 3 года назад

So true! I've stayed pretty much away from Coco Coir because I've heard the salt content is insanely high, and has been getting higher the last 10+ years or so. I haven't tested it personally though.

@tallybeaverman9462 3 года назад

@@Orchideria Hmm, never heard that before, but after googling it, I see it is true that Coco Coir does have salt. It can't be much, because I South Florida many people take the nut out of a coconut and use the husk as a orchid pot mount, and the orchids did well. Of course the constant rain water must flush it out. Salt is a base that raise PH, and acid lowers PH. They use muriatic acid to lower PH in aquariums, think I use to use 16 drops in 4 gallons of water to bring the PH down from 8.6 to 7.0 PH. But your normal monthly water flushes should take it out. If you want to get real scientific, you can buy a Digital PH Meter from Amazon for about $15.00, soak & agitate the Coco Coir in distilled water an hour or so and see where the PH is. If the PH is high, you can use a little vinegar to buffer the salt and agitate again, keep adding vinegar and agitating until you have a 7.0 neutral PH. But a good flush with a water hose could do the trick. Also when the aquarium PH got really low, I used Baking Soda to bring it back up...about a teaspoon for a 20 gallon tank. PH can be fixed. Now that you brought that up, I will wipe the dust off my PH Meter and start testing it, so many people exaggerate small problems into big ones on hear say, it is better to check it yourself. Since Coco Coir is packaged for Orchids, they may have already addresses the problem, or maybe the salt is a minor one that can be flushed out with water.

@tallybeaverman9462 3 года назад

@@Orchideria Another article says that Orchids prefer a PH of 5.5 to 6.5, which is a low PH. guess it would be smart to but a digital PH Meter. Think I will experiment with vinegar to see how much I need to use to bring down the PH to proper levels. Vinegar is a very mild acid.

@sajeevimahanaga1168 3 года назад

Thank you 😍. All the information is really good 😊. I can’t see midnight 🐈

@Orchideria 3 года назад

Hi Sajeevi, Thank you for your comment and your support. Midnight was sleeping through the whole video, so I didn't wake her up. 😊

@shathaabdullah3074 3 года назад

Thanks. Your explanation just like spiscilest.

@Orchideria 3 года назад

Hi Nnnz, Thank you, but I'm far from a specialist. I just share what has worked for me, and that makes me apprecaite your comment even more! 🙏

@Christofblueberry 3 года назад

I use a big tupperware, i lined the bottow with lava rocks then put enough water to enough moisten the lavarocks and i add a cup full of water then i drilled. Some holes in the tupperware lid and i close it

@Orchideria 3 года назад

Hi Christopher, That's a great idea. Thanks for sharing!

@pjstar2009 Год назад

Where do you put the orchids, in a cup inside Tupperware or on top of lid. Just wondering....

@marwankattan4364 3 года назад

Hi I'm new in this hobby. I have one Orchid that's doing pretty well and another one that has lost it's flowers and some of its leaves. Now I have relocated the plant in front of an Eastern window and it's starting to grow a small leave. At first I thought that it had died but now I'm so happy for the recovery 😊.

@Orchideria 3 года назад

Hi Marwan, That is such a good feeling when new growth starts! Thank you for leaving a comment and for watching the video.

@marwankattan4364 3 года назад

@@Orchideria by the way, which part of the States are you from? Because I'm in Saudi Arabia and the weather is hot all year long but I leave the A/C on all the time. So the temperature remains between 24 and 28 all the time.

@Orchideria 3 года назад

Hi Marwan, Wow, Saudia Arabia! That's awesome. I never made it over that far in my travels. The closet I got was to Egypt and Kenya. Maybe one day... I'm from Kansas, the very middle of the USA, but I've only been here 3 years. I've lived overseas for the major part of my life, mainly in Brazil. The summer here gets way too hot and the winter gets way to cold, so I have to grow my orchids indoors.

@gingersker1146 3 года назад

I needed this information. Now I know what I am doing wrong. Thank you. I would like to see a video from you about paphiopedilum orchid care. I just got one and am Trying to figure it out how to take care of it.

@Orchideria 3 года назад

Hi Ginger, thank you! I will add that to the list of videos to make.

@pjstar2009 Год назад

I liked your content and will look for your additional vids. I would have liked to See what you're referring to as you're talking. For instance, I would have liked to see the zip lock bag opening, is it 10% or 40% open? What do the roots that are being rescued look like? What do roots look like that are beyond repair? Just some thoughts. Thank you again.

@philodendron3736 3 года назад

"how you doing!" 😆

@tomherbert6792 10 месяцев назад

Hi Amanda can I grow roots from a single leaf please 🙏

@MK-yu3tc 2 года назад

Hi Amanda, another very useful video! How effective you think will be a method of using humidifier to increase the humidity around the plant, thereby helping a root less orchid to produce new roots?

@Orchideria 2 года назад

Hi MK, I use this method a lot. It works, but is painfully slow.

@brandyfrance9621 2 года назад

@@Orchideria how would I do the humidifier method to help? Spag and bag doesn’t work well for me…plz help

@Orchideria 2 года назад

@@brandyfrance9621 I'm so sorry, for some reason your comment wasn't showing up on my screen. I just now saw it. The sphag-n-bag is complicated, but the idea is to raise the humidity around the leaves. If you have a humidifier, just keep it close to the orchid so that there are no visible water droplets accumulating on the top of the leaves. You can use a rooting hormone too to speed up the process. It's a harder way, and not guaranteed, but it's better than nothing.

@janicesrygler8964 2 года назад

How often should I water? I'm afraid I overwater mine and am having problems

@brandyfrance9621 2 года назад

Hi can you tell me why my orchids are getting soggy? I don’t let my orchid and moss touch at all and I blow in the bag everyday and reseal it but it gets humid and gets my orchid soggy. Plz help

@Orchideria 2 года назад

Hi Brandy, Try taking a bit of the moss out. Sometimes the moss can hold too much humidity even when it's not touching. Another tip is to keep the bag a little bit open, and not seal it.

@ceeteemcdee9680 2 года назад

Thank you so much for all of your valuable information with the videos and your website! I've been taking it all in, taking notes, renewing a springtime commitment to more healthy orchids. I'm putting a couple of sad little minis into rehab and was wondering if it's best to keep the aerial roots being that it's all they have? I know it's a dumb question but I'm just making sure. :) Midnight is adorable. Those eyes!

@Orchideria 2 года назад

Hi CeeTee, yes, Keep the aerial roots. They help keep your orchid healthy. I'm glad the videos are helpful. 😀

@heidiventer4082 2 года назад

Hi, I have a Angraecum sesquipedale (The Star of Bethlehem) orchid that suddenly lost it's hydration. It was hanging in a tree outside which was supposed to be a perfect area as our environment is very humid. I immediately tried your sphag-n-bag method (2 days ago). I just have one problem...My orchid is not very small, it's 80cm/31inches. The leaves are dehydrated and when I took it from the tree I lost some roots and after repotting it I lost the last roots. Do I need to put the whole orchid in one bag or can I cover the leaves in a bag and connect it with the other bag? Hope you understand my question.

@Orchideria 2 года назад

HI Heidi, That is a huge orchid! Yes, you can use 2 bags. They don't have to be in the same one. Just make sure that the orchid doesn't dry out by only looking at one bag. Always check both.

@heidiventer4082 2 года назад

Thank you. I think it's dying...😢I wish I could send you photo's. Thanks for your nice video's.

@Orchideria 2 года назад

Oh no... I'm so sorry to hear that. 😔

@deidrejordan2761 2 года назад

Hi there! What type of cup to put in the bag?

@Orchideria 2 года назад

Hi Diedre, Thanks for watching my video. The kind of cup doesn't matter. It can be plastic, or a coffee cup, or anything that will keep the orchid off the sphagnum and not touching it directly. I find that plastic cups do well since they give me the height I want and the bag still closes.

@deidrejordan2761 2 года назад

@@Orchideria Thank you.

@shathaabdullah3074 3 года назад

Hi Amanda help me. My orchid mother dead &her 2 Kikisjust with few roots less than 1inch can I put them in sphagnum-n bag

@Orchideria 3 года назад

Hi Nnnz, with roots that small, it's going to be extremely hard for the keikis to survive. You are right about putting them in an environment where the humidity can be absorbed by the leaves so the plant has time to produce longer roots. I'd give it a try and see what happens.

@shathaabdullah3074 3 года назад

@@Orchideria thank you very much. I'll try .& wait to see what will happen.

@wagimansvenn1995 3 года назад

Amenda I have a question, my catteleya Orchide and vanda will not bloom,it gave only healty leaves, I do the right method of fertilizing, what can I do wrong, I live in Suriname South America we have here a tropical climate.

@Orchideria 3 года назад

Hi Wagiman, Suriname, wow! I lived in Brazil for a while but never got over that north. You have the sun and the high temperatures, and probably the humidity too. What you might be missing is a cool night's drop in temperature. You'll need to drop about 5-10 degrees at night for a month to induce a flower spike. I can say this for the Cattleya but I'll have to check with the Vanda. I'm not sure why the Vanda isn't blooming. You might try adjusting to a new fertilizer and see if that helps.

@wagimansvenn1995 3 года назад

Amenda you can call me Svenn,yes thats me Wagiman is my family name, Amenda you live in Brasil than we are nebour, I go twice to brasil one time to Belem and one time to Sao loui nice country Amenda I have another problem on one of my vanda Orchide one of them the roots grow an after 1 or 2 cm it stops grow an after a wile it grow back 1-2 cm wat can be the problem, I will show you a small video, I will check if I can attecht it to your site

@Orchideria 3 года назад

Hi Svenn, My comments section doesn't allow for videos or links. The roots shouldn't be growing like that in short phases. They should grow uniformly. I'll look into it since I don't have an answer yet.