Why the Titanic sub imploded | 60 Minutes Australia 

True! And just because you are rich does not mean you have intelligence or common sense.

Modest mouse made a song called "Bukowski".....good song

Soooo true!! 💯

​@@marinagarza1803And a lot of so-called "intellectuals" with a lot of impressive degrees have the least amount of common sense. The most important kind of intelligence.

Love this. Have come to this conclusion myself over the years.

Decompression "sickness" is like being strapped to a 3-D rack that you can't get off of. There's plenty of time to do it right. Your colleagues had proctocraniosis.

@@jguenther3049 they needed to see a proctologist for brain damage!!!

Air bubbles in the bloodstream by sudden decompression end up in stroke, aneurysm, or embolism !!!

Just out curiosity, what type of places do you dive at 300 feet down?

Respect to you.

yeah, and he died finding out it did not add value to others and to society cause killing people in the deep is not adding value to society we have other ways of killing people like lethal injection and the electric chair, so we do not need an imploding submersible to kill people. and the silencing people is a toxic culture that's the airline industry in a nutshell.🤣🤣🤣

“Most business owners” You mean people pushing the needle forward and creating this great app you’re typing on 🤡

@@gaving9463 The app is junk. Lol

@@gaving9463 just keep trying just keep trying🤣

@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue what are you trying to say? Say it!

well, looking carefully at the expression "live changing" also includes the meaning "live ending". to change your plan can also mean to throw it over board

Just because one can memorize information doesn’t make them smart.

That’s exactly what it is!!!

@@lindseyyoung9149Unless he changed his comment. I don’t think it was directed at the original post, it was directed at Rush

He was Arrogant!

They’re talking about Stockton Rush not being smart, not the original commentor. And I agree. You can get great grades or be book smart but lack wisdom or practicality.

stuckt-on-stupid rush was a fool, good riddance. The 4 other souls he took with him are the tragedy

See also Elon Musk, Steve Huffman

An old analogy is the one about the proud mother watching her son in the marching band saying "Oh look. Everyone in the band is out of step except my Johnny".

@@thewhitefalcon8539 No Elon Musk is not like that. He hasn't lost anyone in space and he has put over 50 billion dollars into his space projects so NO HE'S NOT CHEAP!!

As a general rule u should question everything....but when an expert in their field (and u are not) u should probably listen to them. As a result an actual innocent was lost, the estranged son who didn't even want to be there. The only real victim. As the others were rich enough to know better, there is a reason super elites don't drive cheap plastic cars like progressives and their Tesla's, they drive thicc tanky suvs or limos that tend to be durable, equivalent to a submarine not submersible. They should have watched the movie the meg or hired James Cameron's designers for his submersible. But they chose to cut corners. This is the hubris of the elites. They didn't know they was being skimped on. Stockton had done to them what they probably did to others to become top dawgs to begin with. Step on others to get to the top, cut corners and sue into oblivion.

Yeah they definitely got they money's worth out of him

She kept on him though, made him look foolish

It's funny how arrogant rich people can be when their riches are usually because of luck or passed down to them. But rich or poor when someone have zero remorse when lives are lost because they're "contributing to humanity" Then they're truly a psychopath. What do you contribute? You're charging people to take them to a popular historical site. Is Uber contributing toward humanity?

That idiot was twisting himself into a pretzel trying to remove any responsibility. When he said that they would have been insulted being called passengers. No, no, they were explorers! Damn, what an a-hole!

He kept using vague marketing terms like " to discover" and to "push science" "to innovate" blah blah blah but the entire industry already knew it wouldn't work. He was cheap. If the price of carbon fiber and Titanium were the same price, he would've gone with Ti. It was for cost saving not to "innovate". I'm confused as to what they're discovering or innovating, what am I missing

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She was. The man had to swallow hard before he could answer😮

Right. Notice he looked away trying to think of something fast.

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I love that she called him out and called a spade a spade.

@@barbarabarlow1535 I noticed that too!

Yep

And Cameron was a truck driver from Canada. He wasn't born into this. Although people said he was a "genius" at fixing trucks in Canada. @@derekdreke4990

Yeah I would trust James Cameron more than anyone that threw together a submersible just by parts from a hardware store.

Why did James Cameron turn down an offer by pos Rush?? Because Cameron knew it was nothing but a coffin ! Cameron is no fool 🤷‍♀️

Yes and the Challenger Deep makes the Titanic depth look like the shallow end of a pool.

Man make it make sense 🎯

The controler wasnt the problem lol. Nowadays its common routine even in the us army to use controllers. It was the god damned carbon fiber. Did any of you guys even listened to anything lmao

@@toph_toff974 Who in the hell said the controller was the problem????? I was simply making an observation about the fact that sub was controlled by a game controller and that I would react in the manner in which I commented...upon seeing what he was using to steer the vessel, I would have opted out of the voyage. Did you even read my comment? It was only one sentence. lmao

@@toph_toff974 Controllers are used for things like drones, where there is not a high risk of something catastrophic happening if it fails. Definitely not for anything that's rated for humans. I challenge you to find a single appliance where an off-the-shelf piece like this is used in a similar application. You won't find one.

Never say never

No, probably not.

@@thevikingwarrior Sadly, you're probably right.

There will be more stupid people who try it. These aren't the last five.

things were fixed I have to question the person whom repaired the sub hull as they obviously didn't fix it correctly

@@raven4k998 Im not sure theres a good answer to this.. What exactly can be done to fix a carbon fiber/epoxy composite material outside of replacing it entirely ?

His comments did everything possible to deflect attention away from the ultimate outcome. She put it back to the glaring truth.

He is despicable.

Yes!. He was SO full of it...

Did she ask if they tested the human remains for covid 19? Why are they covering up the real cause of their deaths?

My good friend Maggie was from down under and yes,she pulled no punches. I love and miss her

So true. I watched another interview with an Aussie who interviewed child molester/murderer Peter Scully and she pulled no punches and was at times pushing him to answer and was kind of demeaning. He got pissed and clammed up. It was refreshing to watch an interviewer not be afraid to challenge someone.

Good to see our Aussies being recognised 😎 cheers guys,,

I still remember the first time I heard how quickly this thing turned to steam in comparison to how quick we can blink or how quickly our brain acknowledges a thought or wtf,, an when U do the math it almost seems like a great way to go,, ya wouldn't even know it happened much less feel pain or anguish,, It would be a great euthanasia 🤷

The kid didn't even want to go, originally. :(

@@Alexandros-ew1hr Oh my God, I didn't even know that.

​@@haloedge2829 yeah he a doubts, but his father really wanted to go and it was father's day. So he did want to let his dad down😢

People are jealous of rich people. They like to hear abut their deaths. There are vids to explain what happened to them, very popular. I worry that the west wll run out of novetly.

His dad is a true asshat. Stick to your gut if you feel bad about something, even if it's Father's day, trust me your crushed dad will completely understand why you didn't want to go

Sounds like trump...

Stockton Rush was a Narcissistic Sociopath.

(4) cheap (5) ignorant

You forgot: fish food.

@@dbapto6994not even fish food. They were crushed so fast that their bodies basically became non-existent. No fish would be able to eat them except bacteria. That’s how horrible this accident really was. Just to put it into MORE perspective of how much of an ASS Rush was.

He needs to be in prison.

Yeah you can see the fear in his eyes. The families of the passengers will be able to afford serious lawyers, as a shareholder he’s going to be sued into oblivion

He's still so incredibly arrogant and smug too. Despicable human being.

He has to speak like that because if he says he knew of the potential problem, then the waivers are invalid due to known negligence

No doubt the co founder’s bank account and Ocean Gate stock is going to implode faster than the Titan submersible ever did

I think hitting an iceberg and suffering for two or three houes in cold water is worse

Yep that’s how it goes🤷‍♂️

I find it comforting. Death normally seems violent and painful.

You all need some Jesus ❤✌🏽 and then death isn’t a big deal anymore.

I think that these people didn’t put the safety first after all the concerns that were raised. Money was a big factor here,but unfortunately it cost them there lives. Too many cutting the corners…..

Well, they shouldn't have replaced it with an inferior sub such as that at all!

AMEN! Well said!

Well it’s not a political propaganda machine like media outlets here in the US.

He's a stockholder. He's probably changing his pants every half hour.

You are 100% correct! He is Guillermo Söhnlein, OceanGate co-founder, and as such, disregarded all the warnings about the Titan just as much as Rush did. He has blood on his hands too. No conscience and no sense.

@@Rescuemom3 OceanGate co-founder, and just as guilty as Rush.

He's legally liable. He can't say a lot.

@@jadeh2699 He left Oceangate in 2013. Titan didn't exist.

I thought the exact same thing! I thought this was a disgusting use of analytical linear thinking and incredibly rude to the loved ones involved. They had some clue they were facing a threat by at least 20 minutes before imploding. Death is universal but after saying nature transcends us then making a dramatic statement like that shows a lack of hubris in himself as well. It’s cruel and at best no one knows what truly exists. If we are indeed part of nature like suggested…these people could have met a very peaceful melding of oneness with everything.

Well, apparently it seems like with multiple alarms going off and with Rush trying to quickly surface, they had an inkling that they were going to die.

@@Erthangel000 exactly! those 20 minutes were HELL!!!!

@@Erthangel000 "Shows a lack of hubris" - I think lacking hubris is a good thing. Stockton certainly could have benefitted from lacking hubris.

They undoubtedly experienced seconds if not minutes of pure, unadulterated terror. Far from a perfect end.

Yes we can. I notice that’s too lol

Nah he's just protecting his own skin. Otherwise he'll get sued to oblivion

I'm genuinely curious what made you come to that conclusion unless you're an engineer specializing in subs? So funny that everyone says this after the fact.

I mean that thing didn’t look safe. The game controller he was proud to use should’ve been a big tip off that this man was using glue and a pray from arrogance instead of investing. Plus you were sealed shut inside so even if it hadn’t imploded there were other tragic alternatives that could’ve happened being sealed inside with no contact.

​@@beanj580you must be the joker here. Everyone could see this was a toy.

​@@Neria-Gioiaplease share your expertise on submarines? While you're at it, please share your educational background with us. It amazes me how many people now claim it looked like a " toy". A toy that made it to the Titanic 13 times successfully, along with countless other deep dives. While clearly there was a design flaw that caused its implosion, calling it a toy is a joke

Yeah, the kid who Stockton Rush called uninformed for voicing concern.

@@B3AR.WITH.M3A Las Vegas investor called Jay Bloom and his 20 year old son.

Yeah what made them pull out was the Sketchiness of doctor Stocketen When he flew to see them in march in a untested plane the father was thinkng this guy is fucked and has some kinda death wish we ant going in the sea in an Unsafety test sub witch is just common sense at least to me and probably most people in the world.

I wouldn't go in a submarine for all the gold in the world, lm a land lubber for life.

I did not I've been a researcher of the RMS Titanic since high school and I can tell you this much they were already dead as soon as they enter in that submersible nightmare

Preach

That's the only death that upsets me. It was a kid, forced by his father to go for the sake of his company in a dumb PR stunt that the kid knew would end in death. Good riddance to the rest and may the child rest in peace.

That story of the son not wanting to go is apparently from the aunt of the family who was not on good terms with the dad. According to his wife, both the kid and the father were thrilled for the trip, they both were obsessed with the titanic for a year before the trip. She gave her seat to her son, because he really wanted to go, not because he was forced to. He wanted to set the world record for solving the Rubik's cube at the lowest depth. They all were lulled into a sense of safety by the CEO.

They signed waivers saying this was dangerous and alleviating them of liability. The rich families were stupid. The ones that committed suicide and the family members that let them go ...

I believe it was said Rush had college interns involved in the engineering of the sub, specifically the electrical systems.

From what Karl Stanley was saying, Rush and Nargeolet kind of had a death wish. It's been said that OceanGate was run on an increasingly raggedy shoestring and P-H Nargeolet was still in mourning for his wife who died of cancer. Plus, McCallum was saying that being in an imploding submersible is "almost the perfect end" I hope that the people in the Titan didn't have a chance to get scared about dying before it happened. But Rush and Nargeolet may have welcomed it.

@@mcsmith732 why would rush want to die tho there is no reason, I think he’s just overconfident and dumb

Because OceanGate didn't contribute any new knowledge of the ocean. The experts knew the implosion was completely preventable from the get go. From what they already know about the ocean. That's the whole reason this tragedy is so important. Plenty of good people told this CEO dude it was impossible and he dismissed it out of pure arrogance. His dream was more important than his life and the lives of his customers.

Yeah I bet if some normies died paying a piddly 10K, no one would have cared.

In theory oceangate were supposed to undertake ocean research, and was using the tourism expeditions to finance it, whether that would have ever materialised who knows.

I don't think so. He wouldn't be inside the sub if he was all about money.

@@whiteRiceSupremacistmaybe? But he had to go, cuz he was the boss, wanted all the notoriety for it. It was all about money….. he made that clear when he said he wanted to innovate like Elon did with Tesla

He was an idiot for using this sub but In all fairness they used most if not all of the funds from these trips by OceanGate Expeditions to fund the expeditions for OceanGate Foundation, which funded the expenses of scientists. it's not like he pocketed the money afaik, there was a real Nautical archaeology/Marine science part in OceanGate Inc.

He was Captain Ahab in pursuit of Moby Dick, possessed of passion in a Greek tragedy.

I don't think the lives of others ever even got on his radar. All of his arrows pointed inward to him. People like that are always dangerous.

He has no real arguments but appeal to emotion.

It would be like Wilbur Wright telling Orville… I have designed a new aeroplane… it doesnt have wings, lets get in and push it over a cliff.

Paul Henri had recently lost his wife, and stated that he was lonely, and a grieving widower. I believe that clouded his judgement, as he could lose himself in his work, spending time with colleagues. Pair that with manipulative, reckless Stockton Rush’s poor judgement, and you’ve got a deadly combination. Paul Henri was taken advantage of when he was at his most vulnerable.

@@DAquingilNo if you review Paul’s last message where he describes death by implosion as instantaneous and consider how he grieved for his lost wife and loved visiting the Titanic then you see his reasoning. To Paul it was win win. If the submersible performed well he got to visit the Titanic. If it failed be joined his wife in eternity. If that was his vision it clouded his judgement regarding the lives of his companions. R.I.P. the crew of the Titan..

That tells you what a salesman Rush was. People keep saying how foolish it was for people to go in the Titan, but Rush sold it to them by doing everything he could to say it was safe.

@@madlenellul3430 I'd concur. Not sure if it clouded his judgement to the other passengers. Why should he be responsible for their idiocracy!

Yes! A toxic work environment when safety concerns are ignored and you’re fired! Bet those guys are thanking their lucky stars they weren’t aboard.

😳😳 are you serious???? Am I gonna see that in here? I’m only at 2:49, but that’s a damn shame if they lost their job over, trying to warn for peoples lives. Yup… the world has gone to hell in a handbasket.!!! 💯x💯

They might not even be right tho. It may have imploded because they lost thrust and descended too fast.

Rob: "you can't consent to something you don't really understand".

It had death mentioned 8 times in the waiver...

He must have major money invested in OceanGate. Why else would anyone defend a killer like Rush?

​@@RichardE221Notice he's still a shareholder even though he left years ago

lol that man said some straight stupidity. She said then he might not have died, and he said then the ocean may have never been explored? He died last month, not during the titanic. He was nothing to science, nor were they doing it for science. These men were trying to get rich, and they don't care who had to die in their attempts.

He should be ashamed of himself, honestly. What a weasel he is! How can he say Rush wasnt reckless? He killed 4 other people and contributed NOTHING to our knowledge of the ocean. Titan was an egomaniac's pet project, nothing more.

He possibly succumbed to the present pervasive spirit of wordplay ie. just saying something makes it concrete (eg. "Trans" this & that, pronouns etc)

And appearantly according to Guillermo, human lives are a price worth paying for finding out above (non existant) things, listen to him carefully in his last statement... mind boggling!

@@jefo2405 I know! “Stockton wasn’t reckless” ok sure dude

Totally agree. He’s probably the type of guy who thinks his every trip to Whole Foods is an “innovative creation given to mankind”. So gross. Reminds me of Elizabeth Holmes’ babble-speak nonsense.

Why go with tried and true spherical pressure chambers when we could try something totally new and unproven? This seems like a field where tried and true is gonna be much better than the bleeding edge of technology Forgive my lack of deep sea knowledge but theoretically couldn't Oceangate have just made a larger and thicker titanium sphere to fit a couple of passengers, instead of a carbon fiber tube? I understand it would've been substantially larger and more expensive but I think the target clientele would've paid more. All you've gotta tell a billionaire is that they could be in the record books or go where only a few have gone and they'll spend a fortune! Victor Vescovo spent almost $50M to be the first to the five deeps, wild lol I remember that Victor Vescovo used the largest pressure simulating machine (in the world) in Russia to certify his ship and it only barely fit. I think he went to Challenger Deep like 15 times without issue along with countless other dives before selling his CERTIFIED submersible. So theoretically there would be no way to test the larger sphere... oh wait maybe there is! Why not just lower it to 20% deeper than the deepest they ever plan to dive with no people in it. Why not do this ten times? You'd think if your gonna put your own @$$ in the thing maybe Stockton would've done a failure test before risking lives. Oversimplified by a non-diving, sub guy but it seems rational lol

Honestly think Silicon Valley Marketing Hype mentality became so ingrained in the company founders that they might even believe their own marketing materials. Lies have consequences.

That's serious statement in the field of safety

Safety in oil & gas you wanker

Big facts right there.

​@@kennedyamevor9959😊😊

Record of Guinness updated today "the unsinkable titan" Is sunken again!!!

Hey but we apparently learned so much about the ocean so it's all good. What a joke that guy is

@@BuserODL I know right. Its almost as if the deaths of five people are acceptable in light of that! 😑

It's especially infuriating how he tries to equate paying passengers as seasoned explorers whose investments were for the benefit of ocean exploration. B.S. Stockholders are investors in a company's direction. They were customers of the company and the company's product failed and killed them.

This friend is in denial, he knows he is also guilty, hoping some take every penny, he is also guilty.

Notice how he says he would never associate reckless with Stockton or Oceangate “at least when I was there” - can’t have it both ways buddy

I expect slow death from carbon dioxide levels rising is painless. Just get drowsy and fall asleep I think. Don't have nightmares.

Essentially human spaghetti. Sorry to be so graphic, but that's how it looked like with the Byford Dolphin and other similar explosive decompression fatalities.

That doesn't make it any less shitty. Dying unseen and unheard, bodies forever swallowed up by dark depths is nightmarish enough

get a bigger teddy bear little boy.

@@drats1279relax brother, some sympathy wouldn’t hurt.

If she was confronting me about one of my inadequacies, my man parts would shrivel. 😳

I've yet to be disappointed by their reporting in these 60 minute coverages. They do a very good and respectful job indeed.

True

Clayton Bigsby character hopefully😂

Exactly. I'm sure those passengers wouldn't have traded their lives for the experience if they could go back in time! What an insulting, stupid thing to say. Well I shouldn't be surprised. The co-founder must be as dumb as Rush to have ever been involved in the creation of this tin can. It's not just the carbon fiber that was an issue, i just can't get over the fact that they used a crummy window that was never meant to be pushed as far down to the depths that it was. If that's not reckless I don't know what is...

Totally agree, most listeners didn't even seem to pick up on that.

The cofounder won’t say a thing that puts him in financial jeopardy. He knows they’re going to get sued on a massive scale, so he doesn’t want to say a word about ignoring warnings and taking huge irresponsible risks. He’s going to support Rush and the company and just pretend that it was just a tragic accident that they didn’t expect. They were warned by experts multiple times.

Agree! What a way to not put value on their lives.

@@NashvilleTuneStream exactly

"Pride goeth before destruction. A haughty spirit goeth before a fall."

I feel like there needs to be a new definition of “accident”. It doesn’t quite fit here.

Just like pride month before the fall.

6:48 sums up Stockton Rush's attitude of wanting to be the first, the Nicola Tesla of submersible tech I suppose.

Twice the Pride, Double the Fall!

And he has that “Shit, I just KNEW you’d ask me that” expression on his face. lol

@@jeffvickers9390 And it's obvious the whole interview was created and edited to produce something sensational and akin to a Reality TV feel. Pointless.

some of their earlier subs were actually functional at reasonable depths, and have good service records.

these subs were used on research missions and if you see them, they look like conventional subs, not the cheap carbon fiber coffin he died in.

They were going down for a look see & that is all. They could not do anything but look. Fish do not exist at that depth. So not even treasure. They could have visited the Britannic as it is not as deep...and basically the same size ship...though it is in the Baltic Ocean.

⁠​​⁠fish most definitely do exist at that depth, and even deeper than that but it’s true either way-there were no gains to the expedition other than Rush and OceanGate gaining a couple extra bucks

​​@@bunzeebear2973Yes, fish do exist even deeper than The Titanic. The Mariana Trench. Deepest part of the Ocean in the Pacific. Boy, they are very strange looking fish. Google it. They are the Ugliest looking fish I've ever seen. It's so crazy.

Sounds just like Donald Trump doesn't it?

true, every video i've seen on the titan mention how suseptible carbon fiber is to the pressure at the 4000 meters

@@GateKeeper_Systems Carbon fiber is good to use for tensile streghts (that's why is used in aviation), not compression streghts.

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Yeah that stuck in my throat...no regard for the lives lost, what a complete arrogant arse.😡

And the world now has more wreckage to go check out and learn about the dangers of poor safety protocols, poor design engineering, and the hubris of CEO's that decide they don't need to listen to the warnings of industry experts.

He cannot call them passengers because even the Bahamas have rules about passenger safety. But yeah, I forsee him having a really painful few years.

Like Rush he is in complete denial.

He's got one eye on the civil litigation that's on the way. So he can't even go near directly addressing a question involving recklessness or risk given that he's (more or less) the one holding the OceanGate bag. For me the question is: why did he do this interview at all? Does he honestly believe that he can change the public and expert perception of this fiasco?

He's basically scum

Narcissistic brats with lots of money as what they are

And he stopped short of patting himself on the back for the brilliant idea he had. Grinning ear to ear he was.

He was running an ad for "submersible pilot" up until the end. He also tried to get his bookkeeper to become the "pilot". She was creeped out about that because she was an accountant and quit.

@@barba928 Seriously? Damn, I bet she got the chills when she saw the news about this for the first time.

​@@barba928That's insane.

Rush was the epitome of the Dunning-Kruger effect, and completely incapable of questioning his own judgment.

ive been thinking this exact thing.. dude had issues..

If you wanted to drive your car into the ocean tomorrow in attempts to use it as a submarine I could tell you it’s a bad idea, but nothing I can do to stop you

No laws were broken. He intentionally designed it to work around the law. It would have required updating the international treaty on the rules in international waters to stop it. In other words, it is impossible to stop someone from being this stupid.

And journalists were advertising Rush for free, he was giving interviews, there was reportage I watched couple of months ago about it, even tourists gave interviews. That contributed to those people feeling that it is safe to do this with him.

Dozens of experts tell you that smoking is bad but you're still allowed to smoke and get a license to sell cigarettes to others

Criminal? No, actually not. But insanely stupid and retarded? Yes, absolutely🤦‍♂️ Morons should never do stuff like this. Look where it got them🙄🤦‍♂️

He knows that if the families decide to sue it will cost him money .That is the only reason he is protecting his buddy disgusting 🤢

@@Pringle1001 If? For all suffering narcissistic abuse and femicide from arrogant Rush stockings in this world, for the love of god - sue them, sue criminals whenever you can! They had money to pay the ticket. They have money to sue thier butts off this planet.

I agree, it is infuriating. I had hoped that he would have a conscience but he doesn't. He couldn't even answer a direct question. He's a stock holder who is deluded if he thinks he's going to save his investment with these platitudes.

Incredibly irritating. And trying to paint it with the brush of science and exploration - it's none of that, the Titanic has been visited numerous times, there's nothing there to learn. The only thing to know was what those materials would do under pressure - and that's what Rush was warned and ignored.

Especially when suggesting that Stockton Rush was risk averse is an outright lie

Yes. And the cofounder just said here Yes, sure people died. But it was worth it to know more about the ocean. 😮

I think he infuriated me the most. Total dumbass. Leave it up to the professionals

@@pattersonellen He's delusional.

​@@tisha954yes, most narcissist come across as psychotic by default. There's a definite lack of empathy going on with him and a complete disregard for the facts in the matter. (Cognitive dissonance)

Great comment! He makes me so sick I almost threw up!

Yes!

Exactly!!

Finally

Bunghole farts.

Well technically they're not the crew however if you watch the video posted by DALLMYD called "Titanic Sub Tourism Expedition" he was one of the tourists and they still asked them to help with fixing something on the sub so it seems they treated the tourists as part of the crew, only instead of getting paidthey were paying them while working for free

Exactly! Legally, I heard they couldn't take paying customers in anything not inspected and "classed", so they went around that by making customers working crew "mission specialists" and the $$$ required for a ticket is instead a suggested "donation" to the company. I also heard that crew members would have had fewer legal protections than customers would have. They weren't scientific explorers helping humanity to learn more about the ocean, like this guy said, in the least.

Show the documentary I don't wanna see. A stupid woman nodding her head.

Typical Rush's friend tries to explain away the obvious to possibly save the company from imploding as well Save their investment

They were classed as "researchers" to skirt regulations about taking tourists. They were probably given some lame busy work to justify to themselves and others that they were researchers / explorers when of course they were just fee paying guests.

There's absolutely no reason to go down there as a tourist. None.

Most definitely NOT the biggest bang in history....check the history books #hiroshima

Hey, they signed a waiver. If I'm paying 250K for a ride 2 miles down into the ocean, I'm going to ask questions and I want to be in a "certified" vehicle LOL. How dumb can you be as a billionaire to say, "yeah this carbon fiber, camper fan/light built sub is great, top of the line!"

Exactly 👏👏

@@markdog9104 See, this is what I think too. Money doesn't equate to intelligence, is that lesson. But again, I didn't need to see this catastrophe to know that fact.

He might have GONE out ....

His last name,should be Snafu or Clusterf***.

His unchecked hubris was seriously second to none - many people said he was actually a very intelligent engineer and he did get a BS from Princeton, no less (though it wasn't a Masters to be fair), but him being the definition of arrogant is what killed him and his passengers on board that must have mistaken his brash confidence and salesmanship with safety. His obsession with being some kind of maverick trailblazer, rather than just doing his due diligence, and maybe just going with already well tested materials like titanium, etc., is what killed him and the rest. What's been crazy to me about this whole incident is learning about the extreme physics of what occurs during an implosion at that depth: the immense pressure and sheer weight of millions of tons of water, suddenly compressing what amounts of an incredibly tiny bubble of gas, will lead to a near instantaneous explosion/implosion, much like a piston in a vehicle engine from the compression - to the point that in a few milliseconds, all that air became momentarily _hotter than the surface of the sun_ in a bubble that oscillated many times per second, due to the conflicting forces of the super-heated gas wanting to expand versus the millions of tons of water pressing inward. Absolutely wild and one can only hope they didn't know what was coming, since they literally weren't capable of registering any pain or even awareness of the actual implosion that killed them all.

The ironyyyyy

I'm claustrophobic, I'm pretty sure I'd be unable to get into that thing at all.

​@@richardjones4662I don't even like MRI machines lol screw a submarine!

I just prefer,not to visit an underwater cemetery.

@@moonstar21868pretty sure they’re dead now… 😢

Yes, the paradoxical idiom "I wouldn't be caught dead doing that" absolutely holds for going down there in the Titan, or even a more scientifically sound and safety-checked submersible. Due to the chaotic deep sea currents down there, a journalist did a segment talking about the time he went down there in a much safer research submersible, and the currents still pushed them into one of the Titanic's propellers, where they were _stuck for almost an hour._ It was only the skill of their pilot that saved them, by somehow finally getting them unwedged. They also did have communication as opposed to the Titan, because they were using an actual, few km long physical line to the mission's ship on the surface. Even in the safest, most highly-regarded and quadruple safety checked submersible, the simple knowledge of literally millions of tons of water on top of me, and a two plus hour trip just to get back to the surface is more than enough for me to never do something like this. You literally couldn't pay me to do it, whereas these people had to pay a few year's worth of the average household income in the US for the "privilege" of going down in the implosion timebomb that was the Titan.

I think a lot of people feel the same. The others were explorers, but the businessman seemed to not understand the risks, otherwise he surely wouldn't have brought his son down. He just wanted to give his son an incredible and unique experience

"We're rich, what can possibly happen?" AKA "Nothing bad EVA happens to the Kennedys!" (Corvette randomly flips)

He paid 500k?!? He had plenty of time to think about that. To put his son at risk? That was not a trip to Disney.

@@13nlsc It was his son's decision because the trip coincided with Father's Day and he wanted to bond with his father. He was terrified about going but he did it anyway for his father. Tragic.

no they didn't. not only they did not understand, Stockton blatantly lied how 'safe' Titan was to gain their confidence. Even Henry Paul Nargeolet was no engineer but simply experienced in seeing Titanic multiple times. Nargeolet was also warned that Stockton is luring customers by using him as leverage but apparently Nargeolet brushed it off as he was old and just wanted to see Titanic. There are interviews and letters proving what I said.

He wanted to go down in history. He probably felt not seen and thought if can kill myself hey related to the titanic, while also taking out billionaires. I will forever be talked about and be as famous as the titanic itself.

No children were on board. All of these people were dipshits who sought this out.

Stockton Crush

​@@weiluo8268no one was forced to do shit

​@@Pebble834he lied to them. He's a con man

At least he is hoping. Otherwise, there just might be some kind of judgment, where each person must give an account. I wonder what kind of luck the dead CEO is having right now.

@@pixietherabbit5176 He's not talking about metaphysics or religion. He's referring to the physical body basically being vaporized before the mind/body could actually register it's death. Think of getting hit with a full phaser shot in Star Trek where one is just taken out in a flash with no pain or physical suffering of any kind.

I deff want a comedian "chief engineer" to hang my life on.

@Mlogan11 Yep, I knew what he meant, but the way he phrased it made you realise how the end actually went.

...and they, these words, couldn't be more flat out WRONG. No one, not one of us EVER "cease(s) (sic) to exist". Ask any scientist, we only change form. We go on...and on, and on...and on...and on...♾. And yes, so does our consciousness, allowing us to remember and to learn our lessons....ps: I realize this is besides the point, as no one WANTS to even come close to proving that point.

@buckwheat nutride much?

@@buckwheat3869 they are only stating facts but we already know his response to the emails so..?

@@buckwheat3869 Mr Rush villified himself through his own words, actions and lack of them.

@apatheticnoncombatant7750well said!

its not the jpb nor ability of passenger to vet these systems. to become billionaire you need to take massive risks. its in their DNA.

@apatheticnoncombatant7750even if this is true i have a very hard time feeling bad for a man who thinks like this and is “adventurous” enough to pressure his teenage son into it. it wasn’t until i realized these men had let a CHILD on board that submersible with them that i realized they really did not have common sense… as an adult you can make whatever risky choices you want but leave young people out of it!

@apatheticnoncombatant7750 Titan only made 3 successful trips to Titanic. It had several aborted tries due to various problems. Once again the Carbon fiber hull was untested. Rush was basically “testing” it by using it and including passengers. That would be like Boeing testing a new material for a jet while carrying passengers. It was possible for Rush to have the sub tested for compression and he chose not to. He thought his system of sensors would provide warning of any cracks starting in hull. That was “stupid” …… at the depth and pressure they were going to experience, there is NO warning. Any flaw at all and it’s game over in a fraction of a second. There is nothing brilliant about what he did. It was like trying to go over Niagara Falls in an oil drum. Was it possible to do ….. yes, but highly unlikely without failure.

Someone shared a quote in another comment and I figured I’d share it here: “The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts and the stupid ones are full of confidence.” Charles Bukowski

Yes; absolutely 💯 I agree. Let the Titanic rest from here on out.

Those who dont learn from history are doomed to repeat it. 9:36 you can't consent to that which you don't understand. Having gone through covid I find that statement incredibly misunderstood.

I do not want to be mean or anything, but I think a very large percentage of people are well aware of James Cameron and his obsession w/submersibles and going down to the bottom of the ocean. Him doing that has literally been everywhere on social media and in the news for years now.

@@purselmer5931 what is the main purpose of this comment? Thank you for your explanation.

Its horrible to see this back clever guy slandering Rush Stocktons good name.

Saw this exact comment on another video

You can tell Karl Stanley knows his stuff. Just like he said in another interview there's no way they didn't know on the Princeton that Titan had imploded. From sound acoustics. Communication. Sonar. To that much pressure being released from the implosion. You'd of felt it on the ship. If not heard it. Literally an underwater explosion. So all that crap about them running out of oxygen. A search. Probably all in denial on the ship. Didn't want to believe their CEO is dead. The company is over with. His wife is a widow. The legal responsibilities. Investigations. What a nightmare scenario he put so many people through. I honestly feel sorry for the people on the ship. An none have spoken yet Probably because of legal contracts

AND, his words, Not mine, “I coated the carbon fiber exterior with Rhinoliner”

I love to see the financial records of the company. I believe they may have have been problems and Oceangate needed money...and Sh needed to go down with sub knowing the risks !😀

Yes. And the cofounder just said here Yes, sure people died. But it was worth it to know more about the ocean. 😮

I just don’t know. I keep trying to figure him out and I think perhaps his narcissism was so strong that it wouldn’t allow him to believe that anything could ever happen to challenge his superiority. I struggle to understand. I struggle to see if a narcissist ( and I am very intimately acquainted with one…my mother) can really fathom the idea of their own mortality and fragility.

​@@marilynsgirl01 well said. Delusional

His dead clients ignored the warnings too. I’m not a submarine guy and I knew that sub was ridiculously unsafe, so they had to have known there was 36 signatures from professionals who said it was a trap