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Agreed. There is no meaning to extract Li in US at 3 times the cost, Chile can provide the whole US needs, what it has to be done is to develop the refining capacity. Today it goes as Li from Chile or Australia to China and comes as hydroxide to the US battery producers, what a waste!
That's why we need to set up refineries in wet Areas. The only way we can get everyone to ditch I.C.E vehicles is to set up Ev manufacturing all around the US, not just in some areas.
@@vladimirdoyle3934 pipelines are substantially more efficient at transporting liquids, so if you are supplying the water to a large project that requires a constant supply of water pipelines are the superior choice. Trains certainly are more efficient than trucks, and for solids or relatively small amounts of liquids are pretty good the most efficient way to ship just about anything over land.
I fully agree that the United States needs to become more in control of our own destiny when it comes to raw material supply and refining. We can't be left in the position where everything we need has to come from somewhere else. We need to do the necessary mining and refining in the most environmentally responsible way possible. That said, if you fly over Nevada at 40,000 feet or so, there's a whole lot of open space there.... Charlotte, NC may be a different story.
@@arnowisp6244 Those crybabies were all commies that wanted to tell business how they should run themselves. The more wealth and power you transfer to the top the more American you are...
@@arnowisp6244 Outsourcing select industries actually has a merit. Now outsourcing key industries like Semiconductors is not a good idea. Outsourcing Mining of some minerals is actually necessary to prevent land erosion. Also withholding Natural Resources which can be used in the future to gain an geopolitical advantage is actually a win.
True. The right's complete denial of the situation and both sides' placating to the fossil fuel industry has put the US in a really bad position to compete. Thanks GOP and conservative dems...
It’s funny in a “democracy” the US citizen has no power to fix the short sightedness or bad policies. Is it really a “democracy” or just another form of dictatorship ran by a few hundred rich families.
@@royhuang9715 The US has never been a democracy. First, the senate is wildly anti-democratic. Giving every state 2 senators regardless of population means you give far more power to minority populations. Second, the electoral college means that a 10 year old census dictates how many votes a politician will get, instead of the people themselves. It also means you can have two states, one where a candidate lose by 1% and the other where they win by 50% lose the electoral college because it is winner take all. Finally, there are no common standards for protecting a persons right to vote, be registered, and have access to a polling place. America is not a democracy. It is a minoritarian plutocracy based on white supremacist christian fascism.
I feel like Wendover put it well in his newest video on EV batteries, at around 14:25 in his video, roughly quoted he says "EV's are dirtier to make, but the majority of emissions come from driving them, electric vehicles from production, to use, to scraping, are responsible for about 75% LESS emissions, even using dirty fossil fuel electric grids to get there, anyone who argues the opposite is either misinformed, or attempting to disinform" there is no such thing as clean mining, but if this step has to be dirty to make the clean alternatives we need, then I'm all for it
Less emissions is only one part of the puzzle. That’s what people aren’t getting. EV’s and Lithium mining has huge effects to local environments and ecosystems. So while yes, it produces much less “emissions”….it’s local environmental impact can be considered much worse than crude oil. And there is no telling what trickle down effects that could have. Not to mention that Lithium’s accessible supply is quite small and finite.
And most likely they work for fossil fuel industries and don't own an electric or hybrid. I've yet to meet the owner of an electric or hybrid car who wants to go back to paying much more in fuel costs for a markedly inferior product.
@@AE-bh5zs Inferior? Some people have dropped thier EVs for gas because of limited number of charging stations and the time to charge. Compared to how you only need a few minutes to fill up a tank.
We need to capture the lithium recycling industry for domestic market demand. Lithium recycling will be the final key to the longevity of the ev car market
There's huge amounts of lithium right next to Tesla's plant in Nevada. The problem is that lithium is so cheap it's not worth it to mine it domestically. The lithium in a lithium ion battery is only 3% of the cost. It's basically irrelevant. There's no shortage of cheap litium to go around Cobalt is 60%. Cobalt mostly comes from the congo, mostly produced with slave labor. Lithium is not the issue. Stop wasting so much time trying to equate lithium reserves to oil reserves. No one is going to go to war over lithium
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Lithium is just a face but on background phosphate + nickle and other material combined called lithum. And tesla using there next gen battery using less colbalt bcoz of human right.
I have too many lithium battery powered devices in storage because manufacturers have stop support for OS updates, locked bootloaders etc. Results being devices have become unusable. Google, Amazon, Apple want people to upgrade to the latest model and the environment be damned. "lithium supply problem" made worse by artificial obsolescence.
Don’t worry when Mexico starts mining their lithium the problem will be solved and electric car company’s will move there operations there, Mexico has the largest reserves in the world
US will need to list lithium and rare metal productions under emergency national security measures. The problem of shortage is real and delayed action to start production will bring US EV ambitions to its knees.
it's not an emergency though, we really don't need it. For what, Batteries? Get real. Battery tech is surpassing the need for lithium if you follow that.
@@roadtrippin2781 The question is can that battery tech become cheap enough before the lithium supply worldwide dwindles enough to be an urgent concern.
@@roadtrippin2781 even solid state batteries use lithium. The lithium free batteries you speak of are decades away We have barely perfected solid state so slow down sir. It takes years for every new evolution
@@khavaliar There are much more chemistry blends than lithium, and they are more dependable with longer lifespans and have been around for decades longer than lithium chem batts, Just throwing that out there. All I was saying is lithium isn't the be all, end all of battery chemistry and they aren't taking as long as you think. If you follow this closely you'll see that.
@@roadtrippin2781 depends on the use case.. if it's for cars and electronic then lithium probably for now. But large power storage I've seen things like iron and vanadium batteries and whatever else they can conjure up
We will need to get recycling 100% of electronics. If we could recycling all electronics and also be able to recycle even more of our trash. We should also invest in hydrogen fuel cell vehicles and look for other technologies that don’t have raw material shortages.
As someone that lived in Alaska, married an Alaskan Indian and has worked in many Native American Indian villages, I can say with great certainty that most of them do not want mines nor the jobs that come with them, whether they are well paid jobs or not. Indian cultures are all about sustaining the status quo of the earth, increasing the harmony of nature and people as they go through life. They arent interested in the new-fangled gadgets most white people think they cant live without.
Their mining knowledge is some of the best in the world and they are in China's backyard, supplying them with massive amounts of iron ore and other commodities.
All they have in mineral resources that can be mined in 90% of their country without much opposition, because it is a giant desert an no one lives there.
13th largest economy in the world, 9th highest GDP per capita, 15.7% of the total land area in the Southern Hemisphere (22.1% of non-Antarctic Southern Hemisphere land), the wealthiest country in the world, consistent growth faster than the OECD average, the only advanced economy in the world to not go into recession in 2008, consistently ranking in the 80th percentile or better in the Global Innovation Index.....
These environmentalists need to shut up on this one, "Lithium mining will destroy this beautiful area that will provide 40 years of materials." Shows an unused dessert with no wild life or chance to grow as the beautiful area. But the alternative to a lithium mine like coal mining & fossil fuels is totally ok. & lithium mining in different countries while using child slavery like cobalt mining in africa is ok. The environmentalist uses a ton of lithium dependent electrics to preach her cause & drives a gas emitting car everywhere. There's no irony in that?
11:49 "My original goal was to raise awareness about how these lithium mines would be destroying some of the last beautiful places left in the United States". He needs to get out more and see the vast beauty of this country.
@@tomgucwa7319 yeah, its just dirt. But i also wonder regular mines aren’t returned to their natural state. They just leave a huge hold in the ground. It should be a requirement.
@@TheBooban Most countries have strict laws about remediation after mining operations finish. Many require you to place money in escrow for it so you can't just go bankrupt and leave.
Just because they are allies now doesn't mean that their future is secure. Most countries are selfish. If local demand is higher than what they can externally supply, they will have no choice but to stop exports, ally or not. In a hypothetical scenario that China somehow had managed to subdue Australia in a war, American industries that would rely on Lithium will be severely crippled because they don't have backup supply chains.
@@triadwarfare dont underestimate a dog loyalty to its owner, if Australia really want to give up its economy for USA, just give thier leftovers and he will be happy at your side 😏.
Have you seen how much lithium Australia exports every year?!?!? Their reserves are 1/10th the size of Chile…yet they export 10x MORE than Chile. They’ll run out in < 10 years.
Finally, the real issue! What I have not seen in comments so far. Look at the pictures of Lithium mines. Not pretty. So when the enviros see what will be required for this 'green' tech, they will go ballistic. And what also has not been mentioned is the thousands of tons of copper and other metals to build out the electrical infrastructure so everyone can plug in all of these EVs.
1:50. Doesn't look destroyed to me. I'm an environmentalist, and some issues are more important than others. The transition away from fossil fuels far outweighs more local concerns when reducing our carbon footprint on a global scale. The ancestral lands argument is honestly starting sounds like a cash grab by raising the stakes and ultimately how much a company will pay to mine there. 8:28. Oh? I guess the Aral Sea doesn't make the list. 11:48. Last beautiful places in America? This guy DROVE to Thacker Pass. Were his eyes closed? The entire drive is beautiful, and so is much of the country. Wack argument, especially given 97% of the country is rural and mostly unspoiled. Most comments in the comment section of this video are downright terrible and debunked with a cursory Google search.
I am ok with a “cash grab”. The companies and the government should pay this community their money and or give them equity. Pay these people their money and let’s move on.
Newer battery cell technology will overcome the lithium issue. Rare Earths hopefully will be overcome in the next decade or so with lunar regolith mining.
The Clayton valley in Nevada is home to one of the few areas in North America with a large deposits that are fairly shallow and fairly easily extractable . There are 2 Canadian companies that own properties in the Clayton valley both have sizeable deposits of Lithium . Spearmint resources has a sizeable deposits already and recently drilled one of the largest concentrations to be recorded in that area which will likely add significantly to their already sizeable deposits . The other company is Cruz battery metals in the Clayton valley both companies are bordering major lithium producers . The companies are very under valued at this point considering that Lithium has gone up approximately 400% since Spearmint got a confirmed resources estimates from a major mining estimator last year and now getting a further resource estimate update based on large concentrations found in recent drilling
OK Newsom--- slash the heck out of crippling regulations, Cali ran mining out of town decades ago, I'll be shocked if YOU can make it viable again. Washington could help by getting out of the way. I used to do contract process equipment fabrication for Silver Peak operation. (was Foote Mineral back then)
Lithium is not the primary component of these batteries, as the guy you interviewed said. But you obviously cut out the part where he said that it's not a major limiter for battery production.
The US shouldn't have a Lithium supply problem - California's Salton Sea is rich in Lithium and can not only fulfil the needs of the US, it has been estimated that it could supply 40% of the demand from the rest of the world.
Massive desalination should be considered. For water and food security, but also the oceans contain significant amounts of Lithium, and it remains in the slurry from desalination plants. Along with other useful metals and minerals. Maybe the net economic benefit can make it economically viable.
Desalinization is very energy-intensive. Also sea water is less than 1 ppm lithium, more like 200 parts per billion. Compare that to sodium (10800 ppm), magnesium (1290 ppm), calcium (411 ppm), potassium (392 ppm), and strontium (8.1 ppm) -- not to mention the corresponding anions of all those salts: chloride, sulfate, bicarbonate, bromide, borate, fluoride, silicate, iodide...
@@djo9c1 A low concentration yes, but when you consider that in the middle east alone billions (plural) of litres of seawater is desalination each day, then concentrations in the order of hundreds parts per billion starts looking rather interesting. The chemistry needed to isolate Lithium and other useful minerals from salty brines are not even that challenging. Any measures to extract metals from the waste brine will only alleviate environmental concerns. Solar and wind are also ideally efficient for processes like desalination, since there is zero real need to run such plants continuously. You don't even need energy storage to make it perfectly viable using the de facto cheapest and most benign forms of electricity generation .
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American Manganese Inc is going to be huge in this space. They are one of the few companies that can upcycle/recycle 99% of lithium in EV batteries. They are about to blow up
@@tira2145 no, a lot of Tesla batteries do not catch fire. Out of the ~2.5 million Tesla’s built to date, only a hundred or so have caught fire, and battery fires can be put out
@@Les_S537 while it's rare, it killed a entire family in my community. You should never park a Tesla in a garage. Where I live, all these uppity Tesla driver's think that they are so much better than common folk. We just laugh at them for driving coal powered cars.
@@tira2145 Battery cars catch fire far less frequently than gasoline cars. Very little electricity is produced by coal in the U.S. Even if you are from West Virginia the only state where coal power is still dominant you are still better off charging a battery than filling gasoline because big power plants have much higher heat efficiency than small combustion engines.
Many people “ancestors” were removed from their graves in San Francisco to Colma. They didn’t even move the gravestones and broken marble pieces from them can still be seen lining walkways in a SF park.
Not in my backyard sums up 99% of the environmentalists view. EV technology is great as long the power isn't generated near me or the environment damage is hidden from me.
EV vehicles take 40-70% more energy to produce than an ICE vehicles. One of the main reasons why environmentalist are worried is because government policy and education for consumers is basically zero, so the end of life use for EVs must be addressed to make them a positive for the environment in the long run.
Yeah, I'm really skeptical about EV's becoming a mass-produced solution in general. At the very least I have not had very good luck with lithium batteries. They lose roughly half their battery life in 2-3 years, and around 5-6 they usually become nearly incapable of holding a charge. That's my experience anyway (maybe I'm just unlucky, I don't know), but that's the way it is with my tablets/phones and as far as I know the tech is the same they use in EV batteries, just obviously on a larger scale. Honestly I can't imagine having to replace an expensive car battery every few years and make it anywhere near cost effective. Especially not since the battery for an EV is one of the most expensive components.
@@ytgeek8268 This is the most helpful video so far on this issue. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lOyzLSBCBWo.html Some others here are legit in their concerns about EVs deceptively displacing CO2 emissions. And then there are the ethical issues. Currently, there are well over a billion automobiles on the road. The impact of mining/extracting battery minerals to replace them needs to be factored into this craze.
The US needs to be #1 with recycling every battery that gets produced and shipped to this country. I wish all battery recyclers the best but Li-Cycle might beat them all.
really hope the mining companies and the inhabitants of thacker pass come up with a good solution. this will make the lithium companies extremely wealthy.
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Tesla has already purchased 10,000 acres of land in Nevada, where it plans to mine lithium, not far away from his Gigafactory 1.
All environmental activists don’t actually support “only electric cars”. I never heard a environmentalist say that every one with a gas powered car to change to electric car.
I'm all for Native American rights, but this project needs to be built. I noticed that the video showing the vegetation of the Thacker Pass site was displaying a vista of Cheat Grass (Downie Brome), which is the scourge of the West. Cheat Grasss is a CAM 4 plant, meaning that it requires more carbon to make its fiber than most plants. So if you add more carbon dioxide to the atmosphere with burning of fossil fuel, it is that much easier for Cheat Grass to grow, impacting millions and millions of acres of land. So if you think big picture, the best thing to do is get to electrification of our energy production as soon as possible with Lithium ion technology. The blockade and protests of dirty tar sands from Canada and sending it thru a pipeline is completely different than the protests going on in California over Lithium. The most environmental thing we can do is ramp up Lithium based energy storage and have electric vehicles for transportation. Down the road, the worn out batteries can be recycled, and not as much virgin Lithium will be needed.
Phosphorus and nickel are less of a big deal but nickel kind of is, cobalt is not used in lithium iron phosphate batteries at all anymore so Cobalt is not really a big deal since everyone is phasing it out. Lithium is still the material that is going to be the most scarce. All of the others have massive manufacturing and mining is used for all kinds of industries, however, 90% of lithium is already being used for electric vehicles and mobile phones and laptops, which makes it very difficult to increase production.
@@pilotavery nonsense lithium is a very common element. refined lithium is in demand because it had limited uses before. at the current spot price there will be plenty of supply within ten years. copper is way more scarce of a element and is about a third the price right now cause it has been mined to meet demand.
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USA has history of mines which after a good production run, company walks away without reclamation. Many countries must set aside money upfront so when the mine closes that area can be reclaimed back to former glory. Colorado so many mines abandoned and now toxic chemicals in lakes and groundwater. That must stop. USA must become a creditor nation again vs DEBTOR NATION. More production in USA will increase are GDP and control inflation. We can not be dependent on a communist country for all our manufacturing. South Korea and Taiwan are too close to China if something bad happens. USA needs more self sufficiency to continue a secure country
1. fed has been covertly boosting inflation for debt dilution. 2. Tbh the capability of manufacturing was lost and cannot be restored in the foreseeable future. Any bills acts or laws regarding bringing production back are simply political corruptions.
Lithium is not only a very common chemical element in the earths crust but exists in large minable deposits in sufficiently high purity grades. In fact, all over the US and Canada there are at least two dozen closed down but perfectly good lithium mines. British Columbia alone has 4 very large lithium mines all closed down since the 1970s because the price of lithium dropped. Lithium is everywhere globally. It's cobalt, that's used as lithium battery cathodes, that's in short supply.
The key in the near-term is going to be to use LFP batteries. They are cheaper and cleaner to manufacture, longer lived, and do not require cobalt or nickle, and are more than adequate to power more "economy" EVs. Tesla has started switching their "standard range" models to LFP battery packs, they largely maintain the same range and efficiency, but the battery costs far less and will have a much longer lifespan. A bit slower, but I don't think the majority of people need blisteringly fast cars
EVs are more hype than saying environment. Hydrogen is the future of clean energy. Take heat of sun, run the turbine, use electricity to generate hydrogen. Simple, plenty and clean!
Are you sure? Considering energy efficiency from production to use, hydrogen vehicles are only about half as efficient as BEV’s using the cleanest methods of hydrogen production.
@@PYTHAMAXX yea as does anything gets cheaper when you make it in an easier more plentiful way. seems like solid state might be the next wave over hydrogen in my opinion
Agree. Keep spreading the word on green hydrogen!!! When I add up all factors I am aware of, most notably the collateral damage to convert all passenger vehicles to BEVs versus going with the 50% less efficient HYDROGEN fuel cell vehicles, I could see healthy future with 80km range BEVs basically for daily commuting and Battery/Fuel-cell hybrids for vehicles that need to go farther. Lots of predictions on the feasibility of green hydrogen achieving costs comparable or lower than gasoline. Here is a start. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-B3knAZxXMzo.html
i can't believe I can't clip that at 14:30. One of the biggest rebuttals in the EV revolution debate and this guy has grown up with internal combustion engines.
The world's largest known deposit of lithium was recently discovered in Newry, Maine. It was discovered by amateur rockhounds who were working a 1 acre quarry looking for gem stones. The deposit has an estimated value of $1.5 billion but it might never be extracted because of Maine's strict mining laws
I get sick of all the naive opportunists in America stating we're going to be the leading industry when right now statistically we got to either play catch up or if we take our time, we're going to be like those football fans saying " oh but yeah no doubt we're going to make noise next year" while the other countries looking at us like "are you dumb". Can't we give other countries recognition for the thrive their steadily achieving.
a ton of lithium takes 500,000 gallons to process. The current 100,000 tons of production annual productin utilzes enough water to fill 1/3rd of Lake Erie. The southwest USA does not have sufficient water to spare. Chile and Maine have banned Lithium mining and processing mostly because of the water needed to be diverged for this use.
I believe it is single dumbest idea to have cars with batteries in them that can’t even be fully charged in 5mins or less, it’s security threat to everyone family.
Once lithium is mined, processed and enters the lithium-ion battery supply chain, it can be used and then recycled over and over again. Not true for fossil fuels. Key difference. Environmentalists should be supporting lithium mining in countries, like the US and Australia, that have sophisticated mining regulations that minimise environmental impacts.
Actually mining in US or anywhere else isn't needed. There are large deposits in Argentina, Bolivia and Chile. The only problem is that the locals there do not permit this otherwise we wouldn't have any issues.
@@ADHD55 umm cause it's better for the environment overall? The location of these salt plains are where there's low population. So the companies going to mine there can essentially pay a certain percentage of profit to the local government and the local government in turn can dig wells or whatever for the local people. Even better would be to relocate the small population (by paying them for housing) to a wealthy city where water is not an issue.
This. Plus one need x amount of lithium to produce the battery and then you good to go, whereas fossil fuels need to be pumped into the car day by day... That is why lithium is might be called white gold, it will never be like oil. If lithium supply is cut, new car production is halted, but existing cars can be used. If oil is cut, everything falls apart. The dependence on battery minerals cannot be compared with that of oil.
There are large lithium deposits here in the U.K., in Cornwall. I don’t know why Elon Musk didn’t build his European giga factory in the U.K. instead of Berlin.
It has nothing to do with Brexit, that is a close minded opinion. The reason is that if you make the cars in the UK, they come out driving on the wrong side of the road.
@@TheBooban Nevada is in an extremely arid water shed, unless you want to tunnel through to the other side of the rocky mountains to take some water from California or go through the effort of pumping thousands of gallons up hill from somewhere even farther away there really isn't much water to pipe in.
Lithium is common, but it is not common for it to be concentrated into economically recoverable forms. Most lithium minerals are highly soluble in water, meaning that the vast majority of the planet's lithium is diluted within salt water within the ocean and underground. Conservative estimates for simply lifting the water to produce a kg of lithium from sea water is about $6,000 in electricity, which means a current Tesla battery would cost six figures in raw material.
I think our main problem is trying to maintain the automobile as our primary form of transportation instead of investing in better, more efficient uses of resources like rail and public transit. It is clear that EVs will cause environmental devastation similar to that of oil and gas. We can debate the degree of devastation but it is devastation nonetheless. I think we need to wake up to the reality that car dependency is what the real issue is. This is coming from someone who loves cars and driving. Too many cars on our roads create huge problems for society that is hard to grasp. It is hard to image a world with fewer cars but we really ought to start imagining it if we want to make effective changes. Otherwise I feel we are doomed to fail.
Submarines jets an rocket ships ,all need highenergy low weight batteries . Livermore labs..by 1960 it would have been obvious- your smug , an very wrong
American Battery Technology -ABML- has a close loop technology to Extract and Recycle Battery grade material in a revolutionary Green Technology. This is an USA company!!!
We are a group of lithium ore producer and supplier based in Tanzania. We are mostly delivering the lithium ore to our clients in Asia. We are looking for more new markets especially the USA to deliver our high quality ( lepidolite & sprodumene grades) lithium ore.
you have to love the greens - been demanding we all go ev for years then kick off when companies start mining the resources to make ev's a possibility.
Thacker pass is a dry arid zone and it requires plenty of continuous water to mine the lithium. Lithium always exists with other impurities such as “Arsene” which has been classified by EPA as toxic. Everything comes with a risk and damage to natural environment is irreversible
Mentions licycle/redwood and lilac solutions, but no mention of American Battery technology company ($ABML) who’s is doing both. Green eco friendly recycling as well as developing their process for a much more eco friendly direct mining with the DOE and DuPont as well as working with GM, Ford and Stelantis . How did you guys miss them?
Recycling is great, but first new batteries needs to be produced to have something to recycle in the first place. Once all the old cars are electric too, recycling the old ones to build new ones is great. But first, we need to get there.
@@okoljskoinzinirstvo9353 The problem is that American cities were designed for cars, efficient public transport system, which works in Europe, doesn't work there. The distances inside the cities are just too big, the population density is relatively sparse.
Thacker pass recieved the permit from the Nevada Bureau of Mining and Regulation and Reclamation (BMRR) today (Feb 25, 2022 - 1.5 months after this video was made) giving them the green light to move ahead in 2022.
Really? With Lithium, it gets put in batteries that will be recycled and reused over their lifetime instead of being burnt and spreading pollution through the air and water. In West Virginia, they are strip mining for coal by leveling whole mountain tops, filling valleys with overburden and polluting the streams, fracking is polluting the ground water, and oil spills from pipelines and tankers polluting streams and oceans. Nat gas leaks in production release methane which is 80 times worse greenhouse gas than CO2. Any mining activity will disrupt the local environment so need to make sure done in the cleanest way possible.
@@danc2014 Yes, you can make new oil and gas, and some folks are doing that already. That will be burned ONCE and then has to be made new again, by growing more crops or algae and processing it into fuels. This is certainly better than burning fossil fuels. But trying to compare that to recycling batteries is like comparing apples and grapefruits. When lithium is recycled, you can store new energy in it (preferably from solar or wind) for hundreds or even thousands of charges - not just once. People have driven their electric vehicles for years and thousands of miles on the same battery pack. Even when lithium batteries aren't good enough to be used in a car anymore, they can still be used as backup for the power grid for a time before they need to be recycled at the chemical level.
Incredible production 👌🏼 I approached the video with an assumption that extraction is so obviously “the right thing”. Yet - there are so many sensitivities to consider. Very difficult macro environmental trade offs to weigh with fundamental questions raised by indigenous populations (and also endangered plant life) that philosophically boil down to “what do we need” as humans occupying this planet… while I don’t expect we’ll slow down the living standards we’ve grown accustomed to, it’s increasingly obvious how our “work” is creating increasingly complex trade offs that ultimately fall subject to the ignorance as well as the emotions of whomever results in power at the end of the struggle.
That's one thing I've been thinking on several years. You are the first person besides me that thought of that to my knowledge. I've never heard anyone talking about that.
Yeah, people in China sat down and snapped their fingers and voila: they had all the processing of lithium ready. BTW China is one step ahead again: developing sodium batteries. Sodium is in the family of lithium. Sodium is everywhere (mines, oceans and lakes). And it's cheaper. More research needed to make it more energy dense.
ugh im studying earth science and sustainability right now in undergrad and buddy I couldn't agree with you more. This alarmist blind leap towards technologies we haven't made reliable yet is incredibly ridiculous to me.
Global warming as taught is a myth, that's why current terminology changed to climate change. There are decades of warm weather and decades of cold weather. Can be shown by how the earth rotates around the sun. Global warming is not man created as volcanos sprew out more carbon dioxide than produced by man made causes.
@@michaelcarter7079 Global Warming is an inaccurate term that was thrown around by the media. The correct term has always been climate change and all it means is that the Earth will warm to a point, then probably decline rapidly. It’s possible we might enter into an ice age if too much ice melts.
Excellent, NIMBY-land realizes it can't just outsource all pollution and environmental damage to other countries then point and blame said countries while bragging about how 'green' it is itself. You know what would be even better? Reduce car demand by redesigning cities to be walking, biking and public-transportation friendly then having a good network of rails, like in Europe, China and Japan. That's not happening though because Americans are attached to their suburban and driving models.
@@autohmae Fellow Not Just Bikes subscriber I see! Yes, more walkable cities plz. It's better for the health, AND it makes your city more pleasant because small stores and restaurants pop up to take advantage of all that pedestrian traffic.
@@valerievankerckhove9325 I had been watching similar channels, like BicycleDutch , to NJB before and I was part of the first wave of NJB subscribers that are Dutch.
@@valerievankerckhove9325 Maybe I'm a bit silly, but one of my favorite videos is actually just 2+ minutes long, but the knowledge is based on decades of experience, it's right there for the world to see/learn/understand: "Junction design, the Dutch - cycle-friendly - way [120]"
The results of the world wide lithium mining and processing will make coal strip mining look environmentally low impact. Cost of production must include reclamation of the effected land mass and well fields.
Seems like the NIMBY problem is easily solvable, but the government permitting is likely terminal. It’s gotten to the point that we have more trouble getting through red tape than solving “impossible” science and engineering problems. I wouldn’t invest in any project in California unless I had two armies - one each of lawyers and soldiers.
