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Not true, there are more than one type of free bass, the type they are speaking about is the chromatic button layout, but there are others, quint bass for instance. Free bass (in my understanding) is when you are able to play multiple octaves of single notes on the bass board. There are also accordions with both free bass and stradella at the same time, like some of the large 185 bass Hohner morino series.

@@pliat The video says that the type of bass determines what the right hand is playing. That's the inaccuracy I'm pointing out.

@@hanellipsis yes, and i was saying that there are types of free bass that are not in chromatic scale.

Well try tell this to someone who gets paid 700$ a month.

@@katsarosfiat I don't understand the point of that comment. People buy what they can afford. Someone who makes less than a livable wage wouldn't be in the market for something like this. You can also get a car for $500 or $1.2M. You can spend lots on food, or as little as possible on food. You could even afford something very nice in one market but be nowhere close to something else in another market.

Like most things, someone gets something, and gets irritated by shortcomings they improve upon. Actual ancestor of accordion was pretty crude and simple. Another early reed instrument not in mass production for well over 100 years and more like a harmonica was the Flutina that uses a single reed per tone. Accordion can easily have 4 reeds per tone for tremelo or sound "richness" and combinations switched in and out by register buttons. Early accordion advances were in Stradella Italy, stradella invention may have been by an Italian living in California USA, who sold idea to manufacturer in Stradella who filed European patent in his own name.

I often think this about bagpipes. Someone really wanted to play multiple pipes at once and had a spare sheep's stomach laying around.

same reason people made the otomatone and the melodica

A long history. Though it never started like this. It start very primitive and small being the diatonic accordion. Before that it was even more limited

my teacher told me it was created in china cuz they wanted music on the ships but getting a piano on one and playing it is a no go bcz of the space it required so they decided to make an instrument that could do all a piano could. so they made an accordion which originally had a piano keyboard on both sides but playing on a keyboard while controlling the air flow is nigh impossible so they instead added bass buttons instead.

No, it would be very tedious.

​@copbabycombo1311 I bet #10-20 were satisfying and then it's tedious 😂

Norteno, and Ranchero is the Mexican music you love,,

Amazing find, hope you enjoy!

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Congratulations, you were at the right place at the right time. I have to be happy with an older Giulietti, but they still sound ok. What's most important for me is the opportunity it gives me to play Baroque & classical music as the great composers wrote it, only it sounds much more beautiful with the accordion's "woodwind" texture.

Yes, they both work by pushing air through reeds! Same with harmonicas too.

And it has stops too with different registers

It actually is a type of organ.

look at slovenian accordions look much better sound better...

@@juresem4006 hh

Beh siamo i migliori per un motivo

There is nothing good Italians can do

@@jaremakarwowski1574 lol, that's uncalled for. They make beautiful cars

*inexpensive

There are a lot of cheap accordions on eBay but to anyone thinking about buying one, the reeds will need rewaxing and retuning if it is 40+ years old and it is a LOT of work. There are so many other things that can go wrong with them- air leaks, below leaks, sticking keys, keys being uneven.. they're like old Rolls Royces- expensive when new and cheap when sold because they're so expensive and time consuming to repair to how they should be.

@@EndlessDelusion if you take care of an accordion, and you play it often, it will last for a very long time. But if unplayed, it will probably get mold and out of tune.

How much to get an accordion player to STOP. ?

40000$ cheap?

Sounds crazy since in the USA we use 2" thick dedar boards for stuff like DECKS and planters! and I know it's nothing near that price. Cedar is very fast growing, very soft kind of "trashy" wood, Mohogany is a very pretty wood used for high quality furniture and things, but even that only costs around $20 a board foot, a meter is a little larger than a yard, so $20x9 is under $200 for a square yard of mohogany while ebony costs around $105 a board foot, but even that per sq yard would only be about $1,000, and maple which was also mentioned is commonly used for FLOORING in US homes, it's not a valuable wood either.

They may have meant per m3. That would make more sense.

@@metrodrumstv pretty sure that's it, there's no such thing as a square meter of a 3d object.

​@@alessandrorossi1294 Board feet is how wood is usually sold.

Most who take the time for ear training with a phone app are probably surprised to find thier hearing shortcomings, including professional musicians. Also ear wax, doesn't take much to reduce hearing, I don't know if there is any information on getting all of it out safely, without risking damage to hearing membrane.

Even with better hearing you'd never be able to appreciate the full sound by watching a RU-vid video because of the compressio

It's ok, has its own place. I don't like it that much, it sounds somewhat trivial. For folk music I find it amusing and refreshing, other than that...not much in my list.

I have been playing for a year and it's not that hard actually. The buttons on the left hand seem hard but they become very simple after a short period of time. It's basically a portable piano.

Having more buttons actually makes it simpler. Each button makes a simple sound in an intuitive layout. If you think of a guitar like having 6 buttons that can each be pressed in 20+ different ways, that's actually a more complicated way of doing it.

@@thebaconmanthony I play the piano but I'm sure I would get lost very fast with an accordion, at least on the models without piano-like keys

i think its the composite not the cedar alone as mentioned the wood used is composite combination or mahogany, cedar and maple and other secret woods

I think they misspoke and the cost is per meter cubed.

@@GerhardusGeldenhuis Yes I was thinking the same thing, I think it's per meter cubed.

different type of cedar

Hello James, Nice to hear someone talk about the Hohner Gola. Yes, they are unique- and that's putting it mildly.

@@musamor75 I think pigini nova would be more expensive than hohner gola for the same configuration ?

Hohner is a dumb overrated accordion

It happens to me all the time, hurts.

I'll be honest: it looks like that but the feeling is different, my piano (just because it's quite old) still has ivory keys and they feel quite different from the acrylic/plastic you find on the run of the mill modern instrument

@@XMarkxyz yes they do but don't affect the sound

@@christopherthomson1978 the experience of the artist can absolutely inform a performance

@Not Expat Joe surely there must be materials out there that mimic ivory close enough both look AND feel-wise

Stradivari violas are even more expensive than Stradivari violins

Me with a Hohner panther

Robot is from Japanese factory Denso...I work earlyer for this company. 🤔😉

@@deximilijanmalic4124 Domo origato, Mr. Roboto!

He can and he should! 😨

For rookies only.

@@paulblichmann2791 How many fingers are you missing Mr. Expert?

Who's going to spend the money to do that?

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If you buy Pigini Nova (the highest model of the brand), the mother of pearl is already included. Lower models, even my Sirius Millenium, is already with "fake" pearl buttons but if I want same buttons as Nova has, I'll pay these 600€ on the top of the regular price. For example one multi chin register (the small button on the top of the instrument which you push by your chin during playing) can cost up to 1000€ and I have three of them besides regular chin registers. Also accessories can be "expensive" but the quality is the most important and if someone play many concerts or practise hours and hours... the instrument has to work perfectly.

@@AndreKartsi ok, thanks antiques roadshow.

Leave.

When you're that good, you can do it.

@@paulblichmann2791 only on YoudiditwrongTube

Nah man, they are sick. Go ahead and name another handheld instrument that can play multiple melodies at once

I have one but personally I much prefer my Vignoni Fisart concert converter free bass.... but Bugari makes very good accordions also....and frankly at same quality levels as Pigini. That one expensive Pigini only has made a few examples due to the difficulty of obtaining the reeds used. I have played several Piginis and frankly they are no better or worse than the same level version of other brands. People don't know unless you are an accordionist that every manufacturer has a range of models/costs.

The Roland is actually an over-priced accordion-shaped midi controller. Ballpark? No. Not even in the same solar system as a Pigini!

​@@ryano.5149 I have both a Vignoni/Fisart converter free B system bass accordion with chin switches and 5 sets of treble Atonelli finest reeds.....and a Roland 8x Dalape digital accordion. Both are fantastic instruments. I have also played Pigninni accordions which are also very good but frankly this video was a bit of a sales promotionn for Piginni.. There are a few other companies that have top accordions in the same league as the Pigini. There are also some bits of misinformation in the video. The right hand of an accordion is the treble side and there are two basic configurations....piano keyboard and chromatic which is the rows of round buttons. Both have some advantages and some disadvantages but the choice is basically the player and country of origin. The bass side on the left is a bunch of buttons that looks the same but there are variations in the layout. Most common is Stradella which has two rows of single notes and 4 rows of chords. A free base is a chromatic arrangement similar to the chromatic arrangment on the right side of a chromatic keyboard accordion. There is duplication of notes but mostly three rows are used and the other two are used to minimize awkward jumps or better hand position. This is the same as the right side on a chromatic accordion. The layout of the free bass and right side of a chormaic accordion does have some variations depending on country or popularity but generally they are setup as what is known as a B system or C system. The Roland and similar digital accordions have the same options for keyboards but allow for easy swapping of the free bass system to B or C system and the same for the chormatic right hand and also several other layouts other than standard stradella. An acoustic accordion has switches that turn on and off different combinations of reeds to change the sound. A digital accordion has that also but in addition has complete sampled sounds from mulitple types of accordions with different tuning of the reeds. For example my Roland has about 50 different types of accordions such as German, French, Italian, Jazz, etc. Beyond that the Roland has a huge number of additional non accordion tones such as trumpet, clarinet, violin, organ, etc. I how have over 300 different instrument tones/types beyond the accordion sounds. In the hands of a good accordionist this allows great combinations of those instruments and the accordion. Mine also has percussion so I can trigger that with my left hand in real time. I am also a pipe organist both regular and theater organ. I also play electronic organ. But by far my favorite instument is accordion whether acoustic or digital. It is very portable of course compared to an organ. But in the hands of a good player an accordion has the dynamics and nuances that goes far beyond an organ. The bellows is the secret....it allow dynamics like you get with the bow of a violin or cello, and a wind instrument like flute. And unlike those insturments you can play accompaniment or the left hand of a piece as if you were playing a piano or organ. The free bass also allow for nearly the same range as a 88 key piano. All accordion manufacturers have a range of models from the cheaper lower end to the top versions. Piginni is the same.....I have several friends that have their accordions ranging from the top concert model down to the lower end models. My Vignonni is the same...while it is the top model they also have other lower end models. The good thing about the digital accordions is that they don't require top craftsmen to build them as they are basically a case, keyboarards, and printed circuit boards, a battery and speakers. That means they can be sold for far less than one of those top acoustic accordion. For students that is a big factor in the choice of an instrument.

​@@RobertKarlBerta I both play and repair accordions so I am intimately familiar with how they work. Also, I have never heard a convincing performance from a digital accordion. Not once. The technology and the sounds age like milk. As far as cost goes, a new Roland is between $6000 and $9000, depending on where you go. I paid $450 for a flawless pre-owned Titano 120 bass not all that long ago, and people have practically given me 48 bass instruments. Therefore, I don't really see the argument about digital being somehow cheaper for students. Look, do what you want with your money, but you couldn't pay me to take a digital accordion.

Yes... range is in the case of Pigini Nova or Sirius Millenium (button version) always around 5 octaves of each side. It means with the 8 foot register it's E-g4 in right hand, E1-c#3 in left hand. With registers we can extend, move range which can become in the end E1-c#5 in both hands. Some instruments can also go in left hand down to C1. Without a few tones it's range of the piano in both hands with possibility also combine octaves same as organ or harmonium. :) I have 2nd highest accordion from Pigini. I love it. 😊

From that specific model, yes

That’s just the nova’s. Their price is 33000€ They make cheaper ones for 26k,16k,10k and then smaller bass acc’s for cheaper.

He plays piano accordion but same difficulty level in principle. But skill level makes all the difference.

@@rkberta I know skill level is what really makes a good musician, I was just curious.

Accordion free bass is bigger, you are far less limited. I dont see anyone playing Bach on the concertina. Also, much of the cost is for the mechanisms inside the accordion, the converter, that allows the accordion to go from free bass to stradella.

@@pliat That's right. I believe both Weltmeister and Scandelli make a free bass accordion that is not a converter and it is much cheaper, around the 3500 USD range

@@alessandrorossi1294 i dont know about scandalli, but i know hohner used to make the 185 bass morino 7 with both stradella and chromatic button free bass at the same time.

@The Chairman People definitely do play bach on the concertina and with the larger 82 button models you can get 3-4 octaves of range in both hands in what bach piece (except for organ pieces obviously) will you need more range than that? Not saying the concertina is better than the accordion by any means they obviously fulfill different niches but its not as if it has no advantages over the accordion (smaller, lighter, generally cheaper, easier to play)

Nope in the accordion world he’s just average