Not paying an extra 10k for electronic suspension when A)most people will never use the bike to its full potential and B) those who do normally just use regular suspension anyway, like you mentioned, the majority of the top model super bikes, are not that much better than the normal one, except for the fire blade in my opinion. If you want a killer Yamaha track bike all you have to do is buy a normal R1 and just do a track conversion for a lot less than $10,000 more than what a regular R1 would cost
I'm still wondering why the likes haven't shot through the roof, lol I love this content. Keep it up. You are one of the last down to earth content creators on YT.
Your content is great. Always cracks me up while still being educational af! I bought a 2008 Aprilia sxv450 that I'm eventually going to track as I need 5 years to clear my drivers record before I'm insurable. Definitely looking into a Tuono or MT10 later on down the road. Would love to see some content on those. Maybe so supermoto & duelsport stuff too
All the arguments your making against the R1M could be made against the RSV4 factory. Except the factory has even less changes from the base RSV4. It basically just has electronic suspension and different graphics for $8k more.
R1M is actually one of my dream bikes but I totally agree, it is just an overpriced and overhyped R1 with Ohlins bling, data logger (let’s be honest 99% of us wont even need/use) and carbon fiber fairings 🤣
I love how you can get people all worked up lol. Engine & wheels I’m in !! I love ‘em all just can’t afford them all lol. IMO I look at it objectively when I buy a bike, If I plan to spend money on upgrades ( normally the case ) I’d rather get base model & Spend that 9k on the upgrades I actually want, Keep the carbon I’ll take performance!! 🤟Ride your Ride 🤟
Ohlins is bling. Electronic suspension in manual mode works just like manual suspension, except you adjust through your dash instead of with a screwdriver. You can also adjust the preload on them, even though the manual says you don't need to (which is a lie). I had mine adjusted professionally and I found the manual setting was much better on the track. Just more consistent feeling lap after lap. Automatic mode is great on the street though.
@@adobomoto There is preload. You need to remove the electronic plugs on top and then you can adjust them, then put the plugs back in. It's manual. Rebound and dampening is done with the motor. The Ohlins EC2.0 does not have automatic preload adjustment. That's still done with a wrench like regular forks. Same with the shock, except with a screwdriver.
@@adobomoto also, the riding modes on the RSV4 don't feel that significant. The main thing you will feel is the amount of engine braking. I think they improved it somewhat with the '21+ versions.
ayeee i can't believe you hae a grom, i own a grom too and i come from the uk, i love how small groms are and how easy they are to wheelie, lane splitting with groms is the easiest too, the only thing i have against groms is engine size, it sounds ridiculous but i feel like 125ccs aren't fast enough to get you out a spot of danger if you happen to find yourself in one, great video adobo moto tho, love from the UK
@@adobomoto sounds awesome, i was thinking about doing that too but because of the UK's laws about engine ccs and stuff i wouldn't be able to do it without getting messed up by the law, would absolutely love to see a video on that engine swap if you don't mind filming one ? :D
For the price difference you have to add all factors of what your getting sure the carbon fiber, and wheels may cost more but we also have to take into account the price difference for engine the engine internals. I agree for the average person on the street the R1M is more of a showcase but if you do occasional track days more than the average rider then I could see the benefits.
The R1M, also known as the Yamaha R1 Marketing edition. Exponential performance increases through the addition of the letter M, and the power of suggestion 😜👍‼️
I looked at both R1s for another track bike back 2019 and made my decision with Kawasaki zx10rr as street and track use more bang for your buck but I get it with others wanting to be liked or popularly at bike night they are cool looking bike and handle pretty well with the right rider and brakes but with liter bikes today ther really close as performance goes it all comes down to personal preference
I've owned both. 2015 Base model R1 and 2015 R1M. I 100% agree with 98% of what you've said. They are pretty much the identical bike. Suspension, Rear tyre, CCU, & Carbon fairings. I don't count the polished swinger/tank it's just paint. That's it. The price difference here in Aus. $25k AUD for base, R1M $30k AUD(I Paid $25k in 2024). So worth the extra $$ in 2015 yes. Now, It's about the same. The 2020+ R1M has more carbon but I don't think I could spend the $40K AUD now. Your WSBK comment true but that's comparing apples to oranges as the bikes are , should be quoting on the Superstock. ASBK(Australian Superbikes) use the R1M for the first number of years but half the time they just swap out the swing arm to make it look like an R1M :P
@@adobomoto hahaha my first liter is the bike that you have; RSV4 1100 factory. That’s where I got the name from. Miss the bike just not enough dealers around to do the valves so I sold it
It doesn't really matter. If your dream bike is the R1, then you would get the R1M if you can afford it. If the price is prohibitive, a plain R1 is just fine. The reality is, factory carbon being expensive/exclusive is something that's been done on high end cars for a loooooong time. Same story - if you can afford it, you'd option it. Let's not even start with the Ohlins.
Holy. You drove forever on the Grom. 😂 Nice...I'll have to watch the vid again. Watching you ride, I got lost with what you were saying .Those road have to many memories for me. Lol. Good vid. I'd ride side by side. Get you some b shots. Lol
To be fair, you can say the same about the rsv4 and the panigale v4s they both make no more power over their base model counterparts, just better wheels and electronic suspension
Bro you are riding in S***way area. I live here. That coffee shop you went too is where 4 Police Officers were murdered in cold blood. Used to go there on my way to work. Gotta look out for you as my commute is S***way loop racetrack lol. WA drivers are so lead footed. Love your attitude and how you tell it like it is. Love your choice of machinery also! Keep the rubber side up my friend. I used to RR in California when I was stationed at Castle AFB near Merced, Ca. IMO Cal is the best place to ride. I too like you said dont have many friends that ride. My beautiful Filipino wife was trying to set me up with either a ZX14 or Busa. I am too old too race and act crazy anymore (otherwise I would have me a Duc) so sport touring is good enough. John Retired AF from JBLM
Right on John. And yeah, it’s a great coffee shop. I come here frequently, I know the story and spoken with the owner a few times. Thanks for the support!
Definitely a regular R1 for me bro. Not sure about over in the US but over here in the uk 🇬🇧 i find Yamaha are over priced in general especially the R1M crazy money!!
Dam I thought I was closer to the front or first‼️‼️ But any way that's why we watch and listen to you cause you are most definitely tied into the mainstream bike 🏍 stuff more than any one else ‼️🏍‼️‼️‼️ ➕️ You know your shit‼️‼️ on top of all of that you also know that a peirce of carbon fiber doesn't make the bike faster or better suspension 😉 ‼️‼️ put a skilled rider on both and time's will almost be the same ‼️😉✅️💸‼️
R1> R1M. In terms of price/value. The only reason i considered buying a r1 before, was simply the engine. And guess what, both have the same one, so yeah. r1 ftw
as a r1m owner its a show peace i got mine used 2019 for the price of a new "base" r1 and it was really low millage and i didnt have to pay Hawaii shipping or taxes couldn't be happier
yo, back in 2008-2010, i followed this group of Philippinos living in USA, they rides in a group, were u in the group, the owner of the youtube was medium long hair, got married in 2010
@@adobomoto i miss that channel bro, he was one of the top motorcycle blogger back then, pardon me it was 2006-2010, i remember his frontyard grass was overgrown hahaha, his wife was preggy n he blogged it,.. if your circles knows him letme know ok... i wonder if he's still active.
Call me a relic or whatever. I paid $4300 for my 2001 Champions Edition. The last of the carbed R1s takes a giant shit on the R1M imo, and it takes more rider skill to not smear yourself all over the scenery. A fairly inexperienced rider can manage to survive a ride on an R1M with all the electronic nannies on it.
The crossplane was made to win races in corner exit. It’s probably the most underpowered in terms of HP but it proved it’s worth in 2020. Bmw is still trying
You rode past the training center i got my m/c license. Ive ridden my honda odyssey atvs out to that honda dealer they offered $6k trade in. And it was rough then.
R1M is my Dream Bike. it is and will always be. this is not because of any experience. the thing why it is my dream: - it is a dream so money doesnt matter in a dream - i am just obsesed with the Brand Yamaha so you see. there isnt much of arguments. for me it is a personal thing to Love this bike. The Looks, the Sounds, The Paintjob, The Brand Yamaha. it is a super personal thing for me.
95% of us squids cannot ride these bikes to their full potential. I love my raw no electrons, fz09. PLENTY of juice to get in trouble but not enough to totally yard sale yourself. While not totally emptying the bank lol. Been enjoying your vids. First local guy I’ve stumbled upon. I’m in Kitsap/port orchard.
Lots of upset minimum wage commenters here that can't afford a premium surplus for what r1m offers. Hint to the poor folk: r1m isn't aimed at you. Same mofos who complain 4090 is overpriced
Semi-active suspension is banned in both the WSBK and the regional SBK. That's why WSBK Special Humaligations bikes like the M1000RR, V4R, and ZX10RR do not include the semi-active suspension. Toprak has a regular r1. Anyway, you don't buy bikes like the R1M or any fancier version of a bike because they are so much better; you buy them because you want something fancier and special. If you actually race, you must get the regular model and upgrade and tune the suspension yourself. Semi-active suspension makes more sense on the street than on a track because you can set it softer for road conditions with a click of a button.
Can't speak for WA but in CA if the light cycles 3 times without catching you, you can run it when "safe" to do so. Maybe they should use optical cameras instead of the shitty magnetic strips.
second hand prices on r1 - r1m for 2020 here in the uk is about a £3k difference so i am going with the r1m because i wont be able to fit fgrt forks and a ttx rear shock and some carbon fairings for 3k. The wheels are a p.i.t.a to clean inside the spokes and i hate them. Got my 2020 r1m for a reasonable price though and it was less than the brand new standard model 2023 r1 which is still the same model as the 2020. At the end of the day, i wish manufacturers would make a standard bike with no electronic aids apart from quick shift and auto blipper and a slipper clutch and drop the price by £5k. Electronics package should be an extra option you would buy.
what about r1m vs s1k? im looking to get one or the other 2018+. currently have a 05 r1 an want something newer but also way better. Also bike would be daily.
All the people who can’t afford the M go for the regular R1, besides, u r paying for the suspension, carbon and some internal parts, if u don’t like it, dońt buy it, this guy is a poor clown😂
Imo I like the bikes from ducati and R1. But I hate there sounds. I don't like the v engine sound at all. I like the typical inline 4 sound. Like my zx10r makes. But anyway it's all personal opinion.
