Why these two Steve Jobs biopics are not the same 

If only Asthon could act.

@@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 Dude!

@@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 i actually think ashton did a good job, the script was just bad

@@TheMikeMase Fassbender looks nothing like Jobs. At least they could have dyed his hair dark. I don't care how good the script was, they picked the wrong actor.

@@TheMikeMase could you point to something where you like Kutchers acting? I haven’t seen something I like him in yet

I mean he is from the Apple Records label so no wonder!

My favourite album from him was Black Turtleneck. What a masterpiece.

@@nicolashalbleib6237 My favorite was always "Fruit Only Diet".

@@someguyorfemaleontheintern5837 my favorite was the album cover where Steve, Woz, Mike Markkula, and John Sculley are all walking barefoot across the street. I think it was titled "Infinite Loop" iirc.

@@someguyorfemaleontheintern5837 i love his earlier stuff, especially "I Smell so Bad (Atari Nightshift)"

We only got one. We don’t speak of the other one

I think it happened because Steve Jobs just died, and many movie studios were like "Stonks!"

@@cegalo12 Stonks? What were you trying to say?

@@user-ux1vj9vx7s stonks is an internet joke for money

You were a kid when they were made? Wow. You must be quite young. (Sorry, that wasn't meant as an insult. I'm just in a joking mood.)

Right so Danny 'Brit boy' Boyles version is just an old English stiff cold needlessly OVER INTELLECTUALISED movie, and over all forgettably unwatchable and boring movie (Except maybe if you are one of those stiff cold boring english crowd of people). For the rest of us 'sane' Canadians and Americans, Kutcher is and will remain the definitive Steve 'American icon' Jobs, something by the way a boring english actor like Fassbender can never achieve the level of mass appeal / likeability to a North American audience! Its like picturing a American born actor playing James Bond.. simply wont work no matter how much Danny Boyle or anybody tries to force it.

I think it was already that the day it came out. Definitely a palate cleanser!

@@varunemani Fassbender is German-Irish, you prejudiced smoothbrain.

@@varunemani "needlessly OVER INTELLECTUALISED" Translation: "It went over my head so it obviously sucked."

I've never seen a biopic attempt to depict the totality of someone's life. that would be foolish. the very format would have to be more like a series of vignettes unless you are doing a mini series

Ugh, Love and Mercy was so fuckin good.

Dewey Cox is basically the perfect biopic, down to the incredible soundtrack

Right so Danny 'Brit boy' Boyles version is just an old English stiff cold needlessly OVER INTELLECTUALISED movie, and over all forgettably unwatchable and boring movie (Except maybe if you are one of those stiff cold boring english crowd of people). For the rest of us 'sane' Canadians and Americans, Kutcher is and will remain the definitive Steve 'American icon' Jobs, something by the way a boring english actor like Fassbender can never achieve the level of mass appeal / likeability to a North American audience! Its like picturing a American born actor playing James Bond.. simply wont work no matter how much Danny Boyle or anybody tries to force it.

@@varunemani you don't come across as really insecure and easily intimidated at all, you know that. I've never really seen "stiff cold boring" used in grammatically the wrong order like that used as a valid form of criticism of anything and more like some sort of immature emotional reaction to something. Are you sure you wanted to write that out loud to strangers like that? Why can't you think of something about how the Two stories matched up, or what they emphasised as being better for you one way or the other, like everyone else has and instead seem to rely on the fact that you personally don't like Fassbender much? Because he gets a lot more work than Kutcher and has more accolades, like a Screen Actors Guild Award, a Critics' Choice Movie Award, and nominations for two Academy Awards, four British Academy Film Awards and three Golden Globe Awards. Kutcher, who is mostly known for his TV work has mostly Teen Choice awards, speaking of "mass appeal", Fassbender is also Irish, but born in Germany, I know it's all the same to you, but maybe that might help you with that massive English boner you seem to have as a foreigner in English, as it were. You can't project your rather massive insecurities onto actors on a screen doing a job, and if you don't like talking and it hurts your brain, well then, that's why you mop my floors or flip my burgers, or deliver my Amazon, isn't it, and maybe just stick to that instead of with trying to articulate why you don't like competence so badly to strangers and can't think of one rational reason that doesn't instantly show up how clueless you are.

If you don't already know the man's story, Steve Jobs (2015) is hard to follow along. This movie is for folks already familiar with him and the sequence of events.

Right so Danny 'Brit boy' Boyles version is just an old English stiff cold needlessly OVER INTELLECTUALISED movie, and over all forgettably unwatchable and boring movie (Except maybe if you are one of those stiff cold boring english crowd of people). For the rest of us 'sane' Canadians and Americans, Kutcher is and will remain the definitive Steve 'American icon' Jobs, something by the way a boring english actor like Fassbender can never achieve the level of mass appeal / likeability to a North American audience! Its like picturing a American born actor playing James Bond.. simply wont work no matter how much Danny Boyle or anybody tries to force it.

@@varunemani Bro not even American audiences liked the Ashton Kutcher Jobs what the hell are you talking about

@@varunemani Also what do you have against Brits lmao. Plenty of Brits have played Americans just fine, like Christian Bale as Bruce Wayne in The Dark Knight Trilogy. The more I read your comment the more I'm convinced you're either the director or writer of Jobs and you're still salty it didn't get an Oscar lol.

@@yourneighbormordecai CHRISTIAN BALE IS BRITISH?????

I believe that biopics should always come in the form that the subject worked in. Thus, "De-Lovely" is a Cole Porter musical, "Dragon" is a Bruce Lee kung fu flick, "Man in the Moon" is a mind-bending uncomfortable sorta-comedy, etc. I look forward with great interest to the horror film that will be made about Stephen King.

@@seraiharper5553 ‘Ed Wood’ is another good example, paying homage to the era and style of the films of Ed Wood.

@@BenCol Indeed! Though it was not as low-budget as Wood's actual work, it was a work of fantasy which portrayed him as winning the love and respect he craved. It was the movie about him that HE would have made.

@kshamwhizzle It was!!! Still upset that Margot Robbie didn't get an oscar for that!! She was robbed imo!!!!!!!!!!

My regret is that the only movie I waited all year was pretty much the Wikipedia versión of Elvis's life. A three simultaneus arcs of Elvis like in the Fassbender Jobs would have worked better, IMO. Not just a greatest hits (even worst, they took the White House visit and the MSG shows away), they treat Elvis as a normal naive person. It wasnt. It was extravagant and out of this World.

exactly

Right so Danny 'Brit boy' Boyles version is just an old English stiff cold needlessly OVER INTELLECTUALISED movie, and over all forgettably unwatchable and boring movie (Except maybe if you are one of those stiff cold boring english crowd of people). For the rest of us 'sane' Canadians and Americans, Kutcher is and will remain the definitive Steve 'American icon' Jobs, something by the way a boring english actor like Fassbender can never achieve the level of mass appeal / likeability to a North American audience! Its like picturing a American born actor playing James Bond.. simply wont work no matter how much Danny Boyle or anybody tries to force it.

@@varunemani ur such a dork

Fassbender's was more about Steve Jobs as a person. Kutcher's was about Steve Jobs as the leader of Apple. Fassbender is good for what it is, but I don't know about you, I just never thought to myself "wow you know what would be great, a whole movie about how Steve Jobs failing at being a father, that's what I'm most interested in" Kutcher's is better.

Ashton was laughably bad

@@sunkintree Hmmm. Nice take and yeah completely agree. It still kinda bugs me that majority of people culturally reference Fassbender's version because I enjoyed Kutchers so much more. Fassbender's clearly has wider appeal as it panders to the critics who love a cynical angle. Kutcher is defo more of a purist/origins story which is why I love it so much.

It’s not his fault, the script was so bad he couldn’t even save it.

Nah, Kutcher did a horrible job. It was like an SNL impression.

So smooth

That had to be a bit tedious, and the result was quite seamless and even poetic

i didnt even realize it was a strategy for that, i fricking loved that

Jobs humbled her and he wasn’t even alive. Based ledge

You shouldn't buy apple products anyway considering they are a big scam

Things often change when people die. When my dad died, my views on the conflicts we had changed. It was frustrating that he often didn't understand my problems and struggles. He often criticised and sometimes even insulted me over what he believed were bad and stupid decisions, but there was something more important than that: he gave me a life and a good financial foundation. He was always there. I came to see that life was a gift. I appreciated what he had given me, what he left behind. It's like what happened when the Queen of Britain died. Whatever people had against her no longer mattered. People saw her death as a loss, that things were better with her around than not.

Your mom’s initial reaction was right, regardless of whether he died or not. That was unfortunate but it doesn’t undo the bad things Jobs did either.

@@tomsmith6513 As someone with ancestry from a former British colony, a lot of us were glad she died. She presided over quite a lot of our suffering in the world.

I still think a lot of the ideals of apple are trash (not to say they didn't make any innovations), but it seems like a genuinely good movie, and emotionally, it works very well. Even if I don't particularly like Steve Jobs.

Thanks!

Agree, this guy is really good. Charming af.

+1 Beatles are great, but there is already so much content about them out there.

Michael fassbender was nominated for an Oscar....

@@KrishmanyuThakur yeh but the movie itself bombed hard at the box office

Wassup. Love your videos. You look like Walt Disney, especially when you have a mustache.

as much as I believe you that he was an asshole, which is well known, it doesn't equal him not being genius. He happens to be a genius visionary, not a genius peoples-person. One doesn't exclude the other.

"The triptychs are twenty feet high!"

The only thing “breath taking” about Steve Jobs is his net worth and--ugh I was trying to make some gross rib cage reference. Too much. Even if it’s about this bastard.

@@rhabdob3895 won't argue with that. I was referring to the cinematic quality of Boyle's "Steve Jobs" as opposed to the subject himself. He is one of those examples of history likely leaving out the heinous path he trod in order to be that "great man."

@@rhabdob3895 There much more than just his net worth to it, like the phone you're using even if it's Android is a result of it, but yeah he's not the saint and saviour

Right so Danny 'Brit boy' Boyles version is just an old English stiff cold needlessly OVER INTELLECTUALISED movie, and over all forgettably unwatchable and boring movie (Except maybe if you are one of those stiff cold boring english crowd of people). For the rest of us 'sane' Canadians and Americans, Kutcher is and will remain the definitive Steve 'American icon' Jobs, something by the way a boring english actor like Fassbender can never achieve the level of mass appeal / likeability to a North American audience! Its like picturing a American born actor playing James Bond.. simply wont work no matter how much Danny Boyle or anybody tries to force it.

i would prefer a lost weekend movie just by itself. especially focusing on his relationship harry nilssen and may pang

@@professionalwidow yes, including the infamous Tampon incident.

@Multiversus is the best game ever made I would like to see a limited series about each member of the band. There’s been no good films about any of them, really. Two of Us was the best example I’ve seen…about John & Paul in NYC.

@Multiversus is the best game ever made it slips my mind for the moment but there is a movie kinda set up like that. Where we see everything through the eyes of one character and then it switches to another where we get their perspective. It’s simply baffling that Brian Epstein has had a proper film made about him. That would probably be the best angle… Also: Johnny Cash deserves a proper film. Walk the Line was a major disappointment for me…his autobiography is filled with stories which would be a joy to see on screen. Like the time he burned down a national forest while he was high.

@Multiversus is the best game ever made they barely address his addiction…it was made like a TV movie with some mid upper-tier actors. Johnny eats some pills off screen, falls down singing I Got Stripes (it’s a shame we never got a full Phoenix version of that song), June flushes them…generic stuff. Another stores: Cash blew up a Cadillac while driving in Beverly Hills on drugs in the 1960s. The movie tried to paint a rosy version of a man who had a very dark life. That’s due to Johnny Cash’s personal historical revisionism after his evangelical 1970s phase. He had to sign off on the script and wanted it to be a love story. The film doesn’t hold up now, a lot of people got caught up in the musical biopic craze of the early 2000s.

Hear hear

Thanks Black Jesus!

This channel's oldest video is 2 years ago. You can expect the quality to be good from the jump. We're not in 2012 anymore

The Social Network is 10 times a better movie imho

@@gadget00 And you are right

@@gadget00 ​I would argue Steve Jobs and The Social Network are at a similar level of quality to each other.

I appreciate that!

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@@blew1t fr 😎 u can feel the passion