tarkin1980 sounds to me like Joseph Balderrama, I believe he was born in Mexico City and moved to London as a child. So maybe it's British narrators that were born in Mexico in American documentaries that are the problem. But your right does sound like a wrestling match.
@@Sofus. Don't discredit Wikipedia. If people read only half of the stuff that you can find for free online, including in the Wiki, we would live in a better world. I don't need to visit the US to tell you how Trump is as a president nore do I need to travel to Japan to understand the details of the Senkgoku Jidai. That's how writing stuff down works. It tells me what other people experienced and thought. Edit: And before I forget, he is just the narrator, cut the guy some slack. The director is who you wanna blame.
The Dutch shipwright was arrested. But he was smart enough to have recorded all his objections to the King's wishes for an extra deck in letters and was acquitted by the court. He returned to the Netherlands as far as I know with his pay.
They actually had a bunch of lads run on the deck from port to starboad and back to test the stability. Routine stuff, usually a piece of cake. This time they had to abort the test since the ship was about to fall over after just a few runs. Shortly after, they still went out to sea. The lads must have been absolutely certain of the looming catastrophe.
battmd Sounds kind of like a certain Republicant. I am neither. A certain Brit said “clowns on the left and clowns on the right”. It just depends on which ones tip the ship?
Tons of information was left out, like the fact that they extended the ship (made it longer) without making it wider etc, so it was a very slim ship and so on
@Star Star Correct . There is a ratio between the total weight of the ship , displacement of water , length and breadth . The video states there was no ballast or not enough ballast in the hold which would have made the ship more bottom heavy and more stable . Even without deploying sails which essentially blew the ship over , no way would this ship handle rough waters in a storm . Made to look impressive = Poor engineering and design .
@@QuantumPyrite_88.9 Its draft was also shallow. There were a number of defects in its design. Basically, if you wanted to build a ship with all the design elements that would cause it to quickly sink on its maiden voyage, it had them all. It was 'perfect' in that sense...
Adolphus Gustavus(1594-1632),King of Sweden,was one of the greatest generals in the history of warfare. He was seen as the new leader for the Protestants after Germany had been devastated by the "Thirty Years War" in the first half of the 17th century. He dreamed of extending his kingdom to German shores,so that the Baltic might become "a Swedish lake".So to this end,he hoped to relieve the Protestants cause in Germany and also because he was an "enthusiastic" Protestant. On Sept.17,1631,Gustavus overwhelmingly defeated the imperialist army under Tilly at the battle of Breitenfield,near Leipzig. The following spring he again met on the battlefield against Tilly and this time mortally wounded him. In November 1632,Gustavus defeated the Imperialist general Wallenstein at Lutzen but was wounded and killed in the battle.
It’s just a pity, that the Swedish didn’t learn from the loss of the Mary Rose, just over eighty years earlier. Which, sank because too many people had crowded on to it, making it top heavy. As well as the fact, that they had left the gun ports open, while they heeled over, in a tight turn..........
@@lalnablehector1285 No, he told them to continue at all cost, but since the problems where pointed out when the King was away fighting wars, it was probely harder for him to know how bad the problems where
Fun fact Finnish polytech students dove to the ship just as it was recovered and placed a small statue of a Finnish olympic gold metalist Paavo Nurmi on the deck. You can imagine the confusion in the researchers' faces when they realise there's a statue of a Finnish runner in a 17th century ship.
I was in Stockholm several years back and went to the Vasa Museum. I didn't know what it was (I thought it was like "Smith Museum" or something). Went there and realized it was a museum dedicated to just one artifact, the Vasa ship. And it was amazing. First off, it's one of the best scholarly work in tracing the history of the ship, all the people who were there. The dead (effectively mummified by the water) were brought back up and each one were more-or-less identified based on actual name, or from the clothing, position on board the ship. The archaeological scholarship work is incomparable. Definitely a must-see (and re-see) at Stockholm.
The King wasn't wrong about the future of Naval warfare, nor the need to have standard equipment in battle, too bad he didn't understand when to park his ego and let the engineers figure out how to manage his vision.
I made a special trip to see the Wasa in 1967. They were spraying it to keep it moist, but the story was not available for an English speaker. So until I saw this, I didn't know exactly why it sunk. It was still very impressive and interesting.
The story of the Vasa has interested me for many years. The the early narration had me checking he "Smithsonian" logo on the screen. I thought I had clicked on "TOP TEN ALIEN SHIPWRECKS"
The Vasa is now a memorial to the arrogant idiocy of a king who had no acumen in hydrodynamics and naval engineering . Take a look at the Portuguese Man of War . Lighter and faster with rows of fixed cannon , but it had a large open deck for more cannon which could be re-positioned and aimed as it moved past an opponent . No waiting for "favorable winds" to reposition . Below the waterline ballast is everything . Ballast can be nothing but stones for the weight , but the best ballast is cannon rounds , bags of grape shot and powder ... complete with elevators from the hold to the deck . Bigger is not better when a ship becomes nothing but an un-maneuverable target .
I've been fascinated by this ship over my last 20 years. I just listened to a podcast last week where Will Ferrell mentioned it as the greatest museum on the face of the earth. I felt so vindicated, even if it was just by one celebrity.
The Vasa was one of two ships to be built to 5he same plan. After completion the admiral had his crew run back and forth across the deck of the ship. It rolled uncontrolledly. Launched and it sank. The second ship was built but it was wider, it did not sink!! The Lion of The North, Gustav Adolphus lost.
Yamato was useless due to being conceptually obsolete, and even then she was only about as useless as her contemporaries (since the reason she was conceptually obsolete was that the entire battleship concept was outdated in WWII, meaning that every Axis AND Allied battleship built from the late 30s onwards was obsolete on launch). She wasn’t uniquely useless as often made out to be. Vasa was just so badly designed she couldn’t even sail out of harbour.
@@bkjeong4302 Yeah, unfortunately the _Yamato_ was built for a WWI still naval confrontation in an era where the aircraft carrier was ascendant as a power projection platform.
James Aron It’s far from unique to Yamato: one of my pet peeves about that ship is that she is singled out for being built in the carrier era and being obsolete on launch, when the same also applies to contemporary American/British/German/French/Italian battleships, which were all just as pointless and wastes of money, and for the same reasons. And no, it is false that those other nations built their battleships for supporting roles, and even if they did, that still doesn’t justify those other battleships-capital ships simply cost way too much to be built just for supporting roles. Rather, what happened was that everyone got it wrong and thought battleships would be primary fleet units in surface combat when the time for that had passed by the late 1930s.
no the inspiration for The Flying Dutchman in Pirates of the Caribbean was the actual Flying Dutchman, tales of that ship have been around since the golden age of piracy and the East India Company.
@@lalnablehector1285 The look of the Flying Dutchman was partially inspired by old Dutch "fluyts"-17th-century vessels which resembled galleons-and more specifically, the Vasa, a massive Swedish warship which sank in Stockholm's harbor upon its maiden voyage in 1628 (the ship was salvaged in 1961 and housed in a special museum in the Swedish capital). With its high, heavily ornamented stern, the ship provided a rich foundation for Rick Heinrichs' wilder and more fantastical designs
let's be honest...it's a specific type of politician here. An autocrat, a king, whose word would not and could not be challenged. I'm sure his experts tried to dissuade him of the course of action, perhaps even tried to educate him, but being an authoritarian with an ego to match, it was his way or death. What I find rather hilarious is that the ship sailed full of sycophants who all went down with the ship.
Narrator's voice is very annoying, as is the music. Story seemed interesting but no good photos of ship and other sundry details. Smithsonian has really gone down the tubes.
Typical American documentaries. ok this is going to be a long one! The reason to why Gustav wanted the Vasa to be finished so quickly was becouse that Sweden lost several warships in a storm. That made Sweden vulnerable on the sea specially in the Baltic sea from her enemies like Poland who Sweden was in a war with. And becouse of the lost of the 10 warships the Vasa needed to at least compensate them in firepower. 10 warships back then would be if today USA lost like half of its aircraft carriers over a night. There's a big urban legend that King Gustav II Adolf was a typical warmongering tyrant who wanted Vasa to be finished quickly as he's new toy. Remember we're not talking about some teenage war enthusiastic king we're talking about a highly intellectual man who changed european history and got the nickname the father of modern warfare. He knew that the big loses from 10 Swedish warships could easily put the favour in Polish hands in the Baltic. And without a navy to supplie the army in Poland it would grew into a disaster with thousands Swedish soldiers dying to starvation battles and becoming POW's. ''Anybody who know anything about ships would have knowed that this was not a good idea. But the king is absolute and the kings will prevails .'' In todays world yes but back then no. Theoretical principles of shipbuilding were still poorly understood. There is no evidence that Henrik Hybertsson had ever built a ship like it before, and two gundecks is a much more complicated compromise between seaworthiness and firepower than a single gundeck. This made Vasa unique and one of a kind in the world. And just for the sake of argument Vasa wasnt the only ship in her class she hade a sistership the Äpplet who served and took over the rank as the flagship till she was intentional scuttled to act as a blockship in 1659. She managed to save Gustav Adolf's Army in Poland by shipping supplies and soldiers and securing Swedish dominance in the baltic just as it was intended to do by Vasa. Vasa also hade two smaller sisters wich was a bit shorter then her. All of Vasa's sisters and every ship build after the Vasa incident was build with increase width
Like Poland at the time was any threat to Sweden, with like 20% of Swedish Navy. The only Polish Naval victory (Battle of Oliwa) was against Sweden, when majority of ships blocking Gdańsk alreaty left and token force that stayed behind still had numerical parity and overwhelming firepower advantage.
I recommend going and visiting Stockholm, where there the Vasa museum has the entire recovered ship on display. While you’re at it, you should also check out the Kronan museum . It was a ship pretty similar to the Vasa. But that is all the way in Kalmar. In the East side of Sweden.
*GUSTAVUS! ALDOPHUS! LIBERA ET IMPERA! ACERBUS, ET INGENS, AGUSTA PER ANGUSTA!* Also tons of people saying Gustavus is “mindless” when they’ve obviously never heard of his amazing reforms to the army. I mean he cross trained musketeers to ride horse, pikemen to use a musket, etc. and used lots of light infantry which coordinate with one another plus light, mobile artillery compared to mostly isolated heavy infantry, cavalry, and artillery that many European commanders at the time used.
Nah he was much beloved because he was a military genius in combat actually making Sweden a powerful nation he died in battle from either friendly fire or enemy scout shot him .. then the empire he created collapsed.
@@pride2184 wut? We are talking about Gustavus Adolphus the great, he was neither a meme or cause of the empires collapse, he founded the Swedish empire, which was rather short lived (only around 100 years) but alot of damage was caused on countries abroad during this time.
Swedish King Gustavus, 1600s: Doesn't listen to experts, thinks he knows what's best in a field he has no knowledge in. Smithsonian, 2020: Puts hard rock music and wrestling announcer on video of 7th century ship. U.S. President, also 2020: Doesn't listen to experts, thinks he knows what's best in a field he has no knowledge in.
This is a cautionary tale about what happens when technical decisions are driven by non-technical factors such as politics and finance. Unfortunately these things still happen today. One modern example was the space shuttle. Its operational requirements were determined by politicians and bureaucrats. Another example is the 737 Max. Adding bigger more, powerful engines to an old air frame so as to retain the type rating was done purely for financial reasons.
This ship was designed by a Dutch shipwright. Let me put it like this: if you're a shipwright tin the Netherlands during the 17th century (IE the Dutch golden age) and you can't find a job ; you're probably not a very good shipwright. That should have been the first red flag for King Gustav Adolf.
The King isn't absolute over the marine engineering principle that the Centre of Gravity needs to be below the Centre of Buoyancy. Simple, and devastating.
I don't think I would refer to this ship as a 'mighty combat ship'...since it sank like the poorly designed ship that it was BEFORE it ever got to see combat........not that I am trying to take the narrator's job....justsaying
It is impressive to see! As someone that took sailing as a teen in Scouting...it was fairly obvious that it would go over in a breeze...tall and narrow...
A little known fact is that Harrison Ford's great great great great grandfather was there, and when he saw the ship he said: "It belongs in a museum!!"
She set sail but did not have any ballast that’s why she rolled over ,been to see this ship ,she is bigger thanI I thought she would be ,for Dutch a fine vessel to sink because they never took time to put the ballest in
