Why Twitter Employees Don't Want to Work for Elon Musk (As a Twitter Employee) 

First world problems, for real my dude I can't relate at all.

Pin ur comment so other can see lol

Lol I have a government job how about you get a life

Smoothie break

Bizarre expectations.

I'm a tech employee I have these things, but I will never make a video complaining about tech privileges'

I am not a tech. I work on vehicles and I never once had a job that provides food and all the break rooms in the world. We got two 15 minute breaks and one half hour lunch. I worked through my lunch alot of times because I wasn't hungry and got tired if I ate around that time. Now I work with family in the automotive field and kinda get to make my own hours, but I never screw a customer on me being lazy. Even the military charged me for food and I never ate it because the times frame never matched the work schedule. I bet Facebook is the same way and that's probably why they never pick up the phone when I need help.

Twitter has been a loser as an investment. Which is why they sued Elon to follow through with the purchase. He needs to fire this guy and the rest. His job could be done by a blind monkey.

These workplaces like Twitter, Meta, Google… sound more like adult nursery’s. I mean… if I ever expand my business I’m definitely installing a “meditation room” and air hockey table… I’ll let the weaker workers weed them out this way 😅 Do you guys work? Or just expect your work experience to be equal to a paid vacation?

seems like you didn't watch the video.

@@Frenchieeeee IMO, he seems about right. I work in tech, just not silicon valley. Everything he considers the "norm" because every tech company in silicon valley sounds like an overbloated perks package. The free food is probably the worst offender, but things the video considers bad is just normal for the rest for the world. Since I'm not in silicon valley, I can't be definite, but if I had to guess, the reason he considers Tesla pay to be ridiculously low is because pay in Twitter (Google, Facebook etc) is ridiculously high. If pay in Tesla is slave wages then nobody will take it. It's probably more of a "reasonable California living wage" which is barely enough for folks especially those who got a taste of the wage + perks of Twitter. So in short, yeah, Silicon Valley "Tech" employees are very pampered.

You are bragging about yourself. It’s not flattering on you.

Yeah… I agree. There are very terrible things going on. Wars, starvation and tech employees being struck with the reality of paying for lunch and expresso, or even worse… having to go work for one of “the thousands of other companies” in Silicon Valley who wants to also pay that six figures without the specter of maybe not getting free lunch one day while doing a job they love. WILL SOMEONE THINK OF THESE PEOPLE?!?

@@Iyiouseismouse I just can't believe it, how are these people able to be that spoiled. It's unreal.

*6 figures, so probably more than 100k. Also lmao😂

Lol

Help. SOS. Being forced. To work.

@@Pax-vobiscum lmao

Because mental health and mental health.

@@JoshandKatie youre a spoiled infant. A baby who wants bottles handed to him. Grow up and get a real job.

Musk only gives the Money. There are People who did these Things and get no credit while Musk gets it all without doing the Hard Work.

yeah, does Josh expect bosses to be nice and friendly?

Everyone is replaceable

​@@justso1823 Thats right and now back to work slave, your bosses bugatti isn't paying for itself!

@@hond4h34dRight man! How can anyone expect a boss to be nice and friendly?! Can you even imagine treating other people with respect?! Like what a world would that be?! SAD

While They’ve been on a mission this whole time already🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

Literal line goes up ratrace-ridden mentality from people that have negative odds of working at these companies.

Twitter core values of no freedom of speech doesn't help them much either.

BahaahahahhahAh

@@guiseppeperceval4930 🤣🤣🤣

Sounds like luxury compares to most people in the work force.

This will be the beginning of the end of companies destroyed by lazy employees.

My feelings exactly! This guy shouldn't get used to free food, mental health days, and all the other things he mentioned, because if another recession, or maybe even a large solar flare hit earth, and he lost his job, I could almost be certain that this guy would not know how to survive in the real world

Hes probably including the bonus and stonk option, i know a few people that worked at twitter post. salary can be 120-160k, plus bonus which varies wildly depending on weather the new grad has other offers 10-60k, and the stonk option is on average like 100k vested over 4 years, so you get like 20k in stonk the first year, again varies a lot depending on the company and the newgrad

Also Facebook/Meta

Not complaining but obviously was looking out for my own self interest

@@JoshandKatie ur complaining bro it’s ok tho welcome to the life. Just be glad ur white 😂

Ah yes. Evading taxes on my W2 payroll deduction. My plan is working.

This is not what real work in tech actually looks like. Twitter is resting on its existing code base from yesteryear and making no substantial platform changes. These people are not working in tech. They are playing in adult daycare. I DO work in tech. I'm a DBA for a small company. I work long hours frequently to keep my client's systems working smoothly so their businesses don't grind to a halt. I use my brain and my love of informational relationships to provide for family, keep food on the table, and ensure my clients can keep food on theirs.

Dude would literally yurk if he thought about a free smoothie. The word free and him do not compute, u know this but maybe an update video to help people understand where Elon is coming from and the two major different lifestyles at a cross roads

@@SonofKalas22 When I heard twitter had 7500 employees my first thought was "Doing What?" That is a lot of people to essentially run 1 website.

@@AeroEng123 Yeah I agree too, I used to work at Nvidia and we didn't have "free food" there and that didn't deter me from moving to Google when they had free lunches. I was more happy at the younger folks I was helping to build their career. They worked 8 to 4 like any normal workers and they were diverse in terms of race and etc.

do you think they try to fake how much they enjoy their job when they speak to you?

@@zopplinc818 please.

@@yodead369 I'm just asking a question

Exactly!! these people have done zero research on what it is like to work at a Musk company. Working at a Musk company is the most fun you will have in an engineering job ever.

@@clarkkentglasses6443 i think you done zero research, tesla's work hours are more than almost every other faang company including amazon microsoft, their pay is also less than all faang companies, just do some research tesla has a pretty bad repuation for a toxic work culture

Haha that could be very true 😂 Nowhere in the video did I say this was the best business decision!

​@@JoshandKatie Dear Josh:. You're fired.

this is even cushier than a government job. Wow.

It isn't..... but only because of where the company forces them to work (WA, and CA, two of the most expensive states in the country) to put it in perspective, 150k at one of the twitter offices in CA, WA, or NY, is equivalent to working anywhere in the midwest for between 75 and 90k depending on specific city/major metro area. To put THAT into perspective... pre-inflation; The store manager at a McDonalds in the midwest made anywhere between 55-75k. Starting at 16, you could [theoretically] have it lined up for you the exact day you turn 18 (or 21 in some cases). And no degree needed, so no 20-120k of student loan debt to pay back. On top of that, many "dead end jobs" in retail and restaurants (mostly Fortunte 500 brands) actually have programs to pay your school, pay off loans (rarer) or pay a portion of costs.

@@randomuserame yeah but you have to work many years at a low HOURLY rate to be a style manager

@@randomuserame bro, not every city in CA is San Fransisco, and Los Angeles. Yes cost of living is high, but there are cities that make 150k a year feel very comfortable

@@SpliffyHusk the whoel bay are. You must live in Stockton or modesto.

@@kazithecanecorso2724 nope, try again brudda, there’s 482 cities, and 58 counties.

I didn’t make any turnover claims. I just stated my experience and the perception of the company in Silicon Valley. They typically retain talent that is new to the ecosystem or recruit outside of the valley which are all true and valid statements.

As Josh mentioned, there's two types of people, people who like Tesla mission and willing to take pay/benefits cut vs those who value WLB and pay/perks. Obviously everyone isn't gonna leave due to WLB because there's people who love Elon and his mission and thus, will stay there and help the company execute.

so basically silicone valley is a bunch of spoiled brats ? But Tesla has believers thats working for them, and others have ones who likes to be validated by more money and free lunch. ( which is fine but no wonder Elon’s companies are formidable forces)

@Basil ladies and gentlemen we got em

@Basil 3 days later, no response to your observation.

The company being bled dry by its useless, lazy employees!

LOL Ok, Poor.

Apparently, so has its employees.

​@@michaelknight2897 Well they have stopped free speech on twitter in the name of Free Speech haha

But but it has mantained good reputation for employees in the Silicon Valley

Very true! Your comments are exactly what a Tesla recruiter would tell you and that works for a lot of people!

I am an owner in my own company and even I don't get free food unless it's directly business related such as trying to meet with a client....... This free perks BS is a millennial/gen Z invention.

@@JoshandKatie Just FYI, I re-read my comment and fealt it came off a tad hostile. I didn't mean it that way and I appreciate your perspective.

It's the uncertainty that's bringing those concerns on. If/When they change all this, they'll be a _huge_ amount of attrition because it would be stupid to stay for significantly less pay when other companies will offer 100k+ more for the same work. The food is kinda a red herring in this, it's not the biggest concern, especially for remote staff who don't get those perks anyway.

@@JoshandKatie I don't understand. Why does anybody work for Tesla if they pay less? Surely, only the people who don't have any other options would accept such a job.

It doesn't mean that he won't fire 1/2 of twitter - maybe he thinks they are useless and a waste of money.

He could probably turn twitter into facebook, as meta is going hard on VR.

@@valdisgerasymiak1403 they are useless and a waste of money.

pffft forum? I would say more like a stock IRC server with some superficial branding. Someone could easily build a Twitter replacement in under 30 minutes.

@@JoshandKatie maybe not 30 minutes but 3 months most def, hey Zuck build his as a student

@@JoshandKatie ya git clone "that one project repo name"

Replace them with what? Flyover state plumber trash? Twitter is headed for the dumper, we all know it.

@@kicksomeup6998 Is it, or is just the need to clean the house from any activist wuth political agendas, stop throttling and moderating content and gave the power to the user to choose what they want to hear. platfirm should never touch the content below the law

Definitely not from any American colleges.

I have to buy my own lunch wahhhh. Yea I agree.

They really need to be many of the twitter employees are super political and toxic.

Too bad I already quit 2 years ago. Can't fire me now 😂

On the contrary, I think it aged like a fine bourbon.

Very true! And I acknowledge this towards the end of the video. "You're already making 6x more than the median American. Changes to your work culture, pay, and perks don't give you room to complain about what type of company you work for." has a lot of truth to it.

Yes but Elon also makes way too much money for the work these people do.

So what. Why don't they take some personal responsibility and pick themselves up by their bootstraps? Isn't that what you preach to minorities? Go and do some of that yourself rather than complaining you can't make 50k cleaning toilets.

@@kicksomeup6998 to which comment are you replying??

@@mr.greengold8236 The OP's comment

Why don’t you work there then?

For getting real work done like sending a rockets to space (orbit whatever) and not ban people on twitter cuz it goes against Narrative 🤓

There is no management layer at Musk companies. The best part is no part, the best process is no process and the best manager is no manager.

I think he quit a few years ago to work at Robinhood and than left there to start his own thing.

Yeah this generation care for themself and don't like to work in shity environment

No arguments? Resorting to cry about market forces without any justification as to why is it wrong that people aren't as spineless as you were is the copout of the losers.

It's the free market

@Ryan Howe entitled little boy- “you can’t get these perks.” Even if I couldn’t (I get better perks than free chips) I wouldn’t complain about them or use them as a factor in a review because they don’t matter. I especially wouldn’t make an assumption like that because that’s basically announcing to the world that you have zero negotiating ability. You need to re learn the real maslows hierarchy and re read what you wrote to see how cringe that was. I bet you had a limp wrist saying that out loud

LOL. Imagine life without TV rooms and free lunch. THE HORRORS!!!!!

Victor, I know you don’t have any Black friends so find someone to explain what wokeness is and stop watching Fox Not News. Trump lost.

A billion jobs in silicon valley. Twitter will be replaced fast.

@@kicksomeup6998 Yeah

@@guiseppeperceval4930 True. They are now paid 350k if they're skilled enough.

I agree 100%. The twitter board has neglicted its duty to shareholders by apparently fostering a work environment were very little work is actually done and creates a culture that literally promotes not working. Its fraudulent.

some people are trying to play ping pong and eat pizza for lunch everyday others are trying to engrave their names in history

Supply demand

😂👍🏾

I feel like employees are part of the company, and also have a say, having contributing with a lot of hours of work, progress and years. Why should it be just hierarchical with one person deciding when he just bought the company when there are the workers, team leader and coordinators that made the comapany be what it is. Ideally they should have boughts some stocks of the company to share it with musk, so he don't start to mandate what he wants to his employees expecting them to act like robots following orders. This partially a quetion, i don't feel entitled to make an statement since i have little work experience, but i would like to know if people really just see it like that, as is just a bunch as big guys always deciding and workers not having a say on they work when they have being in the company for years.

@martillo de la justicia It's like that for larger companies usually. You can bring up a legit problem you see from the floor to a manager in a meeting, be given a generic "how to win friends and influence people" rehersed answer, then come in the next day to the announcement that manager and employee groups meeting are never happening again. The best thing to do at that point is to keep the resume updated and apply around, or know company policy well enough to call them out on paper about a process or benefit they aren't doing as an example (unemotionally) and see what response you're given then. If it still sounds rehearsed or you get a non answer, then you can pretty much feel safe assuming they don't really care while knowing it optically looks bad for them to be honest about it.

Nice oversimplification and generalization of the state that literally carries the US economy on their back.

@@psycrop7793 considering you only need Texas and New York combined to contribute more than California id say youre being a little hyperbolic...

Considering the high prices of everything in silicon valley, i would also personally prefer a company which provides free food

@@manishkumarpandey9702 lol good point

To be fair in California you need to pay more for the employees to survive, because inflation there is insane (their retarded government is at fault), which is why Elon is slowly moving all his companies out of the state. The reason their economy looks huge is because of the insane price inflation. If you take into account price inflation it's actually much lower then what people think it is. Taking into account inflation the economy size is smaller then Texas, despite having 10 million more people. (Keep in mind this is taking for granted that most people who work and live in California as well). If you can somehow live outside California while still working there you come out ahead, but not a ton, because even the states around California have high inflation. The Texas economy punches above it's weight because inflation is below US average. Texas is going to replace California fairly soon as the tech capital of the US. Elon is moving here we already have Dell and many other tech companies, and now High grade silicon chip manufacturing is coming here.

Noo. I’ve only ever been spoiled by the elitist babysitting companies. Where is my private chef. Who will tell me I’m doing a good job. Help. Can’t. Function.

Boohoo, I was born in a poor flyover state and believe that shovelling manure is the only thing in the world. Wonder how you manage to call these people entitled while claiming that your reality is the only one. Open the window and let some of the complain out.

lol

@@kicksomeup6998 you missed his point......get out and do a little manual labor and you will be glad to have a job with a desk and some AC when it's 98 deg f outside...... My family has a farm.....but I have an engineering firm.....I know exactly what he's saying because I have been on both sides of the coin. If you feel entitled all your life you don't learn anything....because you expect things to arrive at your feet. Change an alternator on your own car or remodel a bathroom.....anything....but learn a little manual skill.

@@bmphil3400 On the contrary, I feel that I am far more ambitious when I feel entitled to something. I dig in my heels and refuse to give up, because I know that I deserved it. I failed many times before I landed a FAANG job and my steely resolve which some call 'entitlement' has a lot to do with it. I refused to believe otherwise, but of course one can approach it in other ways as you did. To each their own ig. I don't believe you should discount your own struggle running an engineering fun either. Getting a high-paying job in tech is very competitive and you of all people know this.

I’m discussing employees whose alternatives are being employed by hundreds of other valley tech companies who have higher standards and higher pay. Comparing a software engineering work to farming is just an irrelevant discussion. This is a very specialized skill set that is extremely challenging - which is why the employment ecosystem is so competitive for top engineering talent.

Exactly lol these people don’t want to work

@@casio5658 are you daft ? Recruiting at Twitter is really hard !

I would LOVE for Elon to obliterate Twitter by doing that. Unfortunately he's not stupid enough to think a network manager is as replaceable as a burger flipper.

Yeah like Joe. Doing his job as a puppet.

he said tesla offered 50k less... so take-home would have been about 100k (STARTING salary, plus RSUs on top). I think that pays the bills just fine. You are surely covering your mortgage/rent and socking a bunch away unless you're an idiot

@@gregkrazanski I work in manufacturing and $100k and year would be like living in luxury as a 23 year old. I’ve been in this field since the day I turned 16 making $8/hr. Some people are so far off on what they think the average American makes.

Imagine thinking he works those hours... He has people to do most things for him. He probably works less than his employees

@@madalena4145 you sound so naive, having been involved with various executive management types in the corporate world as well as being around corporate support staff, my first hand experience is that upper management and leadership in general have very little work life balance in their favour, if anything it is skewed such that they are frequently having 8 AM meeting starts to their day to well into the late evening, then also being on call throughout the evening while also having to produce and complete their normal obligations such as summaries in the evenings as their days are taken up by meetings. Your assumption that he works less than some average employee is ridiculous to say the least.

Gold diggers? It's supply and demand. If other companies will pay significantly more, it's reasonable to assume they'll move on. Assuming generally the same conditions of work, I'd assume jumping to another company when getting 30-100% more pay for the same job is offered is completely normal.

Not all people are Elon Musk.Eveyone must respect their life.

LOOOOOOL ELON SIMPS ARE HERE

I've bills to pay...I don't give a crap "about being part of smth spectacular" if my personal lifestyle is affected by it. You can't go home at the end of the month and tell ur kids and wife that .... U guys hang in there, we can't afford this...but hey I am part of smth special...pffff

It’s a hard world out there

Supply demand

@@JoshandKatie more like a bubble

Would rather be the richest than be emotionally intelligent.

@@keif9447 Agreed lol

That will be cool!

I don't think he's going to be able to attract enough tech talent to do that for him.

Done

@@shel1102 Good boi