WHY TYLER OAKLEY'S CHANNEL DIED 

A RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS ABOUT TYLERS TWEETS!!!!!!!!! READ THIS BEFORE YOU GET ANGRY ABOUT WHAT I WAS TRYNA SAY BC I MOST LIKELY AGREE WITH YOU POLITICS: I was a bit nervous in some of the reasons i spoke about in this due to the sensitivty to if i didn't clarify clearly why they effected tyler , let me give a final explanation. I think if youtubers state who they're voting for, they may take heat but their channel will be fine. But if RU-vidr's dwelve deep into politics despite being a vlogging/entertainment channel then they will lose subscribers and that happened with tyler. I don't care he voted for Hilary, wouldn't care if he voted for Trump, it's a fact people didn't subscribe for politics they subscribed for entertainment. Hope you understand where I'm coming from. RACE: With the race related tweets, i think more people were mad at the fact he was so stubborn and ignorant he wasn't willing to debate people and express his opinions, i don't even think his opinion was THAT bad in full context, but just the way he presented it was moronic. And the other ones such a people getting bored by him + him going way too mainstream i think i explained well enough, so ya ty :) FOLLOW THE PODCAST! ► ru-vid.com/show-UCLuqzTYgef441A0VYecDHxA FULL ONISION DEBATE ► ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-u3kPLuB4WvE.html FOLLOW MY TWITTER ► twitter.com/inabbertv JOIN THE DISCORD ► discord.gg/kb8E2W SUB TO THE SECOND CHANNEL ► ru-vid.com/show-UC-txk-727tYYskea175TnsQ THE PATREON ► patreon.com/inabbertv? Instagram ► instagram.com/inabber Music at beginning ► Title: Scott Buckley - Elementary Artist: Scott Buckley Source: soundcloud.com/scottbuckley/el... License: creativecommons.org/licenses/... Promoted by Music Library: bit.ly/MusicLibraryRU-vid

Honestly, Tyler's channel died because he tried to hit the mainstream so hard. He did, but in doing so, he lost the realness that most RU-vidrs have and what people like about RU-vid.

That's why I thought Jenna Marbles was smart to publicly state she wouldn't talk about politics on her channel.

It’s so weird to see how irrelevant RU-vidrs can become after being so huge just a few years ago.

He only got big because he was a happy go lucky, gay, youtuber in a time when there weren't many of them around. Nowadays they're fairly common and he didn't change his content to stand out, he got stale. Him being a massive idiot didn't help when he actually tried to say anything serious

I don't think he's "hated" as much as his fans aged and changed interests.

No lie, I forgot he existed.

Lmfao stop. He didn’t fall off because of his tweets, he fell off because he continued to produce tired vanilla content and eventually lost his relevancy like Graveyardgirl.

I'm going to be real with you. Tyler Oakley wasn't as liked as people thought. Its just that RU-vid/Media was shoving him down people's throat's that when they stopped he couldn't maintain his popularity.

edit: this did not age well. i redact this entire statement except for jenna shane dawson and jenna marbles are probably the only og youtubers who i still watch and enjoy. their content has changed along with their personalities over the years, they’re actually funny and make the content entertaining, and don’t try to be perfect or jump on the bandwagon all the time. i respect the both of them so incredibly much. thank you for coming to my ted talk.

he never changed up his content. it got boring and repetitive, also his personality can only go so far

Wait, I thought you were Tyler Oakley? unsubscribed

This video is way too deep...People just got bored of him, forgot about him. That's probably why he has so many subs still....people just forgot they were subscribed to him

Oh shit I completely forgot this guy existed

I stopped watching him because I grew out of him honestly...

Hm no. His channel just died because it wasnt his main focus anymore and it got boring and bland

He thought being gay was a good enough substitute for an actual personality or decent content.

I forgot Tyler Oakley existed until I saw this in my recommended

I feel like Tyler’s channel is just one big trailer for his life. It’s just him talking about his other projects, shows he’s on and celebrities he’s working with. It’s one big advertisement.

tyler oaklely kinda reminds me of tumblr; just kinda outdated and overly sensitive

He didn't do anything. His channel was basically "I'm gay and not afraid to admit it while other people hide it" and thankfully the world has changed enough that you don't really need to hide it anymore, so there was no longer a reason for him to exist. As a youtube channel, not as a person, he has the right to exist and shit you know what I'm saying, but JUST existing, and not making any informative or entertaining content in any way, isn't really a show in and of itself anymore. Oh and his shitty Twitter stuff that you get into.

I think Tyler’s channel is dying because he just doesn’t have much to offer anymore

As someone who was a dedicated Tyler Oakley fan like hardcore in love with him and went to meet ups the whole thing. I didn’t stop watching because of some controversy I stopped watching because I grew up. His content never evolved even today his content is so similar to when I was 14 and started watching him. I’m 19 now so of course I’m not going to be interested in the same buzzword bright colors yelling white gay I liked when I was 14. Same reason for why I stopped watching zoella, Miranda sings, graveyard girl and all those other creators who don’t know how to evolve for a new audience.

I stopped watching Tyler Oakley because I got bored and because he got such a big ego. He’s so full of himself. Waving at crowds of people like royalty, going on national television, it’s just obnoxious.

I think this video has the cause and effect backward. His channel was steadily dying before he sold out to mainstream traditional media. His young fans grew out of watching him, and he didn't attract new young fans because his content was stale. To me, it looks like he sold out to mainstream media as means of starting a second career and trying to draw attention back to his channel. This video says selling out caused the decline, but I think it's the other way around.

tyler's channel died bc more "edgy and fun" youtubers came out

Honestly, Tyler was boring from the very start but I feel like his prime was like 2013-2014/2015 when he did videos with Troye Sivan, Connor Franta, Dan and Phil and all those guys (that were severely more popular and entertaining than him) and when he basically fed off of bigger youtubers audiences. His prime was when all the older teens now were young and impressionable and, dare I say it, cringey young teens who idolized those types of youtubers. And now all of them grew up and grew bored of the content and he doesn’t know how to make other content to cater to them or everyone, which, in turn, is ultimately killing his channel.

This guy ironically looks like Tyler Oakley tho

He didn’t evolve like Shane Dawson

American politics is especially tedious to listen to if you’re not American

first video that pops up when u search up "tyler oakley" is this one. now that's the real tea.

Idc about the politics stuff. I think his subscribers are likely liberal-leaning anyways bc of him being gay and the type of videos he’s made. I think it’s just bc he’s totally boring and stale and there’s nothing there that people find intriguing anymore

Its crazy to me someone sharing their opinion suffered more public backlash than Logan Paul abusing a corpse.

I remember being subbed to Tyler in middle school. I can’t even remember when I unsubscribed. I think his content was too boring and surface level for me. I couldn’t relate to him other than that we’re both lgbt. I feel like he’s a good guy but I can’t connect him.

I have nothing against Tyler but honestly thank GOD Zoellas channel died hahahaha

He didn't have enough Minecraft Let's Plays. That's why.

His only chance at redemption is if Shane looks into this like he did with tanacon

Tyler Oakley is so boring I can’t even watch this video about his dead channel

The only thriving OG youtuber is Shane tbh

I stopped watching him because he wasn’t active on his channel. Also I checked his channel last week and his videos wasn’t as interesting as it used to be.

It still confuses me how an openly gay man can appear next to a politician who up until 2013 didn’t think marriage was for anyone other than a man or woman. Her blatant disregard for the LGBT community stems back to a 2003 speech - Yet here he is a mere 3 years later standing alongside her.

he’s just boring tbh

Troye Sivan left That’s why

I still love Tyler as a person. He's done alot for the LGBT+ community but I just don't find his personality interesting anymore. But I still have respect for him plus he's from Michigan :p Represent

...Tyler was speaking facts in those attraction tweets. But yall are too insecure.

I think the biggest mistake that Tyler did is that he forgot that his audience is still growing. All of his audience before are not teens anymore. We're becoming adult. We change our taste on videos. Also that's what Shane did. Look at him now. Got a Trending video with Jeffree star. I'm happy for him BTW.

it’s sad but mainstream youtubers have an expiry date lol

I disagree with you on the argument of attraction and preference. I used to say that I didn’t find black people attractive, and that is shameful of me. I literally wrote off millions upon millions of people based on their skin colour and said I wouldn’t find a single one among them to be attractive. Do you not see how stupid that is? I reflected on that opinion of mine, realised I was literally being racially prejudiced, and can genuinely say that I HAVE found many black people to be attractive since then. You cannot say that you do not find an entire race unappealing if you haven’t seen every person of that race and decided that each one is unattractive. It is moronic. I am gay, I genuinely believe I was born gay, I spent a good part of my teenage years depressed and wishing/praying to NOT be gay. It was not a choice. Preference is not a choice per se, but I do not accept that it is the same as sexuality. I think society and socially constructed “norms” DO have a strong influence on what somebody should find attractive, and I think my primarily white upbringing taught me to find white people more attractive. Thankfully I do not believe this any more.

If he said that today no one would have had a problem about it

Also if you're confused out my comments towards tyler's attraction comments, i basically mean his opinions aren't the reason MAINLY that this annoyed people, it was the fact he's not willing to debate people and explain his thoughts

2:25 2016 was the weirdest year on RU-vid like we thought a girl got kidnapped by ISIS and was forced to record videos in a basement and that she was actually trying to communicate in Morse through her blinks that she needed help. But yeah I agree that it was entertaining.

Bro Tyler was 100% correct on the preference take how can you not be attracted to someone solely based on their race?

his tweet actually lowkey has a point, we just weren't ready for it

I kinda forgot he even existed whoops

I never really know why these channels die off after being so popular when I never really found them interesting to begin with

Sad, he should have had a good manager. He could've made it as a host of some show, he's very charismatic...

HOW DOES INABBER LOOK completely different within 1 year

I mean let's be real, some RU-vidrs come and go... especially a majority of those prominent in the 2013 era

I used to watch Tyler Oakley in 2014/13 when I was younger and enjoyed his content because he was funny and relatable; but I slowly drifted away when his content became repetitive and he stopped feeling like a real person more like a B list celeb.

I was done with him when he got a Starbucks brand deal and did their commercials but called people capitalist slaves for watching expensive super bowl commercials

i always felt like he was trying too hard to be "quirky" and that put me off him from the start. same reason i cant stand zoey deschenel

i think his channel died because he didn’t have proper subscribers. he used to do this think called “auguest” where he’d collab with loads of youtubers and it’s when he’d gain the most subscribers. he was never really that captivating. when he stopped collabing with people, people lost interest. so when he popped up in their recommended they unsubscribed cuz the content they were used to/wanted were his collabs.

I stopped following him because many reasons one is that his personality in his videos feel so fake like he’s too happy for me I love Shane Dawson because you see the good, the bad, and the ugly of himself but with Tyler i don’t know him at all and another reason is the tweet that really shocked me because if you mean that, that mean gay people are sexist because we don’t like being with women and the tweet didn’t make sense and maybe that’s why people stopped following him.

His teeth are brighter than Tyler's channel.

id rather have tyler reclaim his throne as the king of youtube rather than the current "king".... jake paul

The reason why he flopped is bc he didnt bring anything new or interesting to youtube

He just dosent have nothing special, and too much generic content

It’s really kind of sad that there are so many people commenting that they forgot he existed.

He killed his own channel by deserting it for a less relevant platform. I’m a liberal, democratic, gay guy. Tyler’s views don’t offend me because I share most of them, but what offends me is deserting your fanbase and platform because the appeal of being on TV is bigger. All this despite TV being a step backwards in time and relevancy. Not for me thanks 👏🏻 I used to watch Tyler ALL the time, every video, because I liked his content, probably still would now, I was 20 then and am 25 now so I haven’t really “grown out” of it... but I stopped watching and unsubbed when he jumped over to TV. I’m from the U.K., I don’t watch American tv, I don’t even watch British TV. Going from something relevant like the internet and moving backwards onto normal TV is stupid. TV is not what young adults watch, why would I spend time scrolling and finding something on TV to “settle” on when I can watch Netflix, Prime, RU-vid and watch something I CHOOSE to watch, when I want to watch it? TV is dead.

Actually I do watch political RU-vidrs for the politics, because they usually list their sources and give their opinions. I distrust the news and having a person talking makes it feel a lot more transparent. The problem is non political RU-vidrs pushing politics on an audience that didn't subscribe for it, or changing content too much in general.

somebody count how many times he throws his hands up while talking

I always got weird vibes from Tyler.... idk why but his content/personalty always seemed really forced to me. Just seemed inauthentic.

Meh. I agree with his tweets.

I unsubbed because his content is so dusty tbh

I unsubscribed before all of the 'scandals' I actually never heard of them. I unsubscribed because I felt he sold out, just as Zoella did. I couldn't stand the 384th Audible drop. And this was before the adpocalypse!

0:47 “Algae beetee q plus community” Lmao

i feel like this aged badly lmao

He used to be my favorite lmao, I honestly haven't thought about him in yearsssss

I actually agree with his tweets but I don’t think they have anything to do with his downfall. I don’t think the RU-vid community hates him I think everyone just forgot about him. His content became stagnant and uninteresting and everyone just kinda forgot

Every video: Q&A. In Every Q&A: What’re you reading on Audible? (Insert ad for Audible)

this did not age well... tyler is obviously right

It's sad to see since I used to be a huge fan of his when I was younger, but it's the same thing with a lot of that sort of '2014 youtubers gang'. Most of their content became boring and something you couldn't realte to anymore. Tbh, I think his original audience just grew up and then no new fans replaced the old ones.

He just started to die out because he did only Q&A’s for pretty much an entire year. Loved Tyler when I was in middle school but now I’m in college and working full time I don’t have time to watch Q&A’s anymore

The only reason his numbers are going down is because he stopped uploading consistently since 2016, as simple as that. Not a bad thing if he has his reasons to have done it, which of course he does. If people unsubscribe becuase he dont change his content or becuase his political activism, I think is actually a good thing because that means they were never there actually because they care about him as a person. I think of the downward spiral in susbscribers, just as a detoxifying purge of people from the channel. All good.

Dan and Phil have pretty much stayed relevant while interacting with celebs/being radio 1 hosts/being interviewers at the brits/writing books etc. I think the fact they keep their opinions about politics and mainstream celebs/drama to themselves is the reason they didn’t die off like Tyler, because they haven’t changed that much and when they have, it’s been such a subtle and smooth change that no one noticed

During 2016, I unsubbed from Tyler Oakley and Grace Helbig because they wouldn't stop shoving their politics in everyone's faces and then acting super snarky about it. It doesn't matter it was about Hillary, it would have been the same if they supported Trump. People went to their channels to be distracted from the political shitshow, not to deal with more moral grandstanding.

omfg I thought this was a new vid and your hair and setup completely shocked me lol

Aw Tyler! I used to love his videos back in the day, he was my favourite for a long time due to how down to earth he is and he used his platform to raise awareness for charities and important issues as well as being entertaining. As someone who used to watch his channel I actually liked the fact he knew celebrities and was collabing with them as I thought was so cool that youtube could bring opportunities like that to people I enjoyed watching and he always still came across very down to earth and himself when interacting with them. I also liked the fact he used his platform and his voice to bring attention to important issues that I wouldn't normally quite understand the jargon used on the news and mainstream media, it was easier to learn important issues from someone I felt more inclined to listen to (if that makes sense ha!) and found interesting and connected with. For me personally, I do agree as a viewer I did get bored eventually of his channel, like I did with most of the main british youtubers, their channels didn't really evolve or they didn't I'm not entirely sure which but I felt like as I got older I just out grew their content and found more people to watch that I just preferred more instead. Great video! It really got me thinking a lot about this :)

I used to be a huge fan of Tyler! Around 2014-2015 I had a fan account for him and was actively in the Tyler Oakley fandom. I started noticing around the beginning of 2016 that people were leaving the fandom one by one, and slowly but surely it disappeared. I guess everyone lost interest around the same time, I don’t really remember why I left, I just got kinda tired of it. I talked to some friends and they had the same reasoning. I feel like there are many reasons why people don’t follow him much anymore, but I saw that a lot of people just lost interest.

Tyler Oakley??? I haven't heard that name in years

I really enjoy reading these comments because everyone is pointing out different reason and possibilities his channel died. Stale content, his tweets, becoming mainstream, inconsistent uploading, etc. Its really interesting to read.

I just figured people got tired of the "loud gay man" schtick

Also at some point he almost stopped posting on RU-vid. I remember unsubscribing from him because he stopped posting. Sometimes it's as simple as that.

Honestly, I would never want to be famous (like I would be anyway). Losing so many fans/ getting bad reactions from others would make me so depressed

Holy crap you have changed a lot in 2 years wtf human bodies are so crazy ahhhhhhh

I always wondered what happened to this whole group of old british youtubers.

i'm still subbed to him because i believe he is a wonderful person but i haven't watched any of his recent videos because they seem very boring. a collab with troye and fresh content will probably make me watch again

tbfh i unsubbed because it just seemed like gay was becoming his personality. (not to be homophobic i’m gay myself lmao)

I thought I was going to see 2020 Fraser (hope I got your name right) but I was in shock when I saw August 2018 Fraser. You definitely upgraded

Maybe because he was an insufferable self-appointed moral authority who wasnt particularly good at anything