Why US Desperately Needs NEW Icebreakers 

How do icebreakers work?

Does US even need icebreaker

The US army has staffing problems and is off by 15% for enlistment, General Miley stated this recently. Looks like this may be across all the armed forces to some degree. Why? Maybe a different generation that is not interested in serving or the bannefits after such as GI Bill? How about many young people are not fit enough to serve? That's an issue as well. So coast guard is affected by same circumstances as the US military. US navy recruiting numbers were down about 7,000 + overall. Not looking good for any of the services never mind manning new ships.

The Ice is melting, someone let Noah know.

You could start with allowing mustaches and beards. Followed by acknowledgement of there are only two sexes. This would help with recruitment numbers.

Exactly. Global warming is only going to accelerate now that Russia realized they'll actually benefit, and Canada will be threatened by Russian militarism. Canada and the US need to do something about it before it becomes an issue.

Finland, Sweden, Norway and the UK also each operate some icebreakers

They're currently too closely allied with China for their own good

Oddly enough they do. So they use nuclear submarines under the ice that they use. They open vents and disrupt the ice when keeping a ship underway. It’s something that is not talked about much but is commonly practiced.

Canadas icebreakers are why the US can risk a single point of failure. In any kind of worst case scenario they can likely get us to help. It makes it reasonable for them to gamble with only one.

It's still insane to see it though (imo) .. watching them remove that enormous section of hull like a jigsaw piece was incredible.

Sounds like hull cuts are "not what you think"

Not only are they underfunded, but unlike the other 4 branches of the military, they won't get funding during a gov shutdown. This already happened a couple years ago, where they went for over a month without pay (but still continued to operate) and will potentially happen again this year.

Hull cuts inevitably ruin acoustics or the balance of the ship. Especially since that they always make sure the result is tougher to make up for the artificial fault line.

@@supa3ek This might be true on a very small scale, but I don't think it's a major thing. I served on an old Sturgeon class attack boat and we did a two year reactor overhaul. Many hull cuts. After overhaul the boat has to recertify in many categories including time at an acoustic range where the submarine was evaluated for noise levels. Regardless, there's simply no way to perform certain maintenance and repairs without hull cuts.

Yes thats why they are currently building quite a bit and all of them nuclear powered, they actualy launched one of them several months ago.

While we still have ice.

That's why we're building a lot of them

Because an E-4 makes less than a fast food employee in every branch so the only real incentives to serve are - Sense of duty (not prevalent in much of today's america) - Benefits (Not even good benefits, everyone has a 'screwed by the VA' story)

Why cant europeam coutnry such norway, sweedn help the reaserch statiom

Surely surely thre eueopean resrchers thre

Ask anybody in my generation, and they would all unanimously say: nobody wants to die for "gods chosen people" The pay is dogshit. Litteral minimum wage work. And you cant even put it on your resume like you can if you join CBRN in the army. Its utterly useless.

@@mesiroy1234they can but to be clear it’s an American run research station

Took a lot longer than a month!

Why cant europeam coutnry such norway, sweedn help the reaserch statiom

Surely surely thre eueopean resrchers thre

I helped build that ship. The Healy. 😉👍

Finnish ice technology is held in high regard all over the world. As activities in the Arctic increase and the Northern Sea Route opens up for traffic, all while environmental regulations become tighter, the demand for high-quality icebreakers and ice-strengthened cargo ships rises. Each winter after the Baltic Sea freezes over, Finnish foreign trade depends greatly on efficient winter navigation. Icebreakers are necessary to keep ports and sea lanes open, and only ice-strengthened ships can move on their own in conditions dominated by ice. This has led Finnish ice technology to develop to a world-leading level over the past 50 years.

@@TCKRDefense на столько высокого что сказать что будет дешевле воспользоватся сопровждением не то что выгоднее а лучше для всех.

Ice breakers always look so badass

@@monkemode8128 I've been on a ship with ice breaking capabilities, but it wasnt a true icebreaker. We were traveling on some relatively thin ice (about 4 inches thick), and the noise is something else. Cant imagine working on a big icebreaker that goes through steel ice like nothing, it must be maddening inside. I wonder if the crew sleeps with ear protection

u got that right!@@monkemode8128

Was a Military ship they are entirely civilian now a day and yes the atle class is really cool

@@rykehuss3435 i work on the one in the video, its not loud, only a lot of vibrations and shaking during the winter heavy ice season

Ask not what this Country can do for you, Ask what you as a Fellow American can do for your Country. America needs your help. Ask yourself Are YOU Prepared To join the Fight to prepare for World War 3?

no because they own those ships and usa doesn't and usa cannot demand them to give them up they have to pay for them to make some because they are not cheap

@@H3rraM4juri Et tainnut lukea kovin hyvin kirjoittamaani tekstiä... Kirjoitin kysymyksen miksei Yhdysvallat vain tilaa tyyliin esim. Rauman telakalta (tai mikä telakka nyt Suomessa jäänmurtajia valmistaa) että rakentavat uuden jäänmurtajan.

It's called Congressmen. " My district has a shipyard, why should some other country build it" and on and on it goes.

US law(14 U.S.C. 1151 and 10 U.S.C. 8679) doesn't allow US Navy and Coast Guard to buy vessels made in foreign countries.

Финляндия входит в нато кхкх

Nigaaaa whaaaaa

Global warming and a possible Arctic shipping route are why we could utilize more icebreaking capability.

@@thwingc agreed

My conspiracy theory is that US and Europe are trying to avoid global warming because it would make Russia's geography absolute imba in terms of agriculture, access to rare earth resources, ice-free massive coastline that would be marvelous in terms of logistics, etc.

well the video alrdy explained why the US doesn't have ice breaker as it's not Quite beneficial in any way for them even with the Alaska having less than 70k population and not much ports and if they do really need help they got Canadians ice breakers which roughly have around more than 20

Just like with space x

Like sending all the TAX payers money to Ukraine and now probably Israel .

Zillions isn't a number and when you get hyperbolic to the point of inventing numbers it's hard to take you seriously. We spend more then anyone else in the world on global and national defense we can already afford the Ice Breakers, as for wages the US doesn't build their own gear the contracts do so take it up with your boss if you're not being paid enough. We need to cut the fat and eliminate the profit margins of defense firms. They are stupid bloated.

@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket I'm not a US citizen and I pay myself my wage for my own work, so I'm my own boss. I do agree with you that profit margins are one of the problems (and thus my zillions in mention) cause they are in every country in the world, including mine. Also, in most of the world countries the people that the governments should pay more are actually underpayed, and thus those jobs are left vacant, like the icebreaker crew jobs, or soldier jobs (or education jobs, probably the most important ones...)

Or buy those from Finland. Higher quality with lesser price

So Russia doesn't use pipes?

@@worldoftancraft nothing near as much as the US, no

Unfortunately, that's a massive undertaking. It'd be similar to modifying every vehicle to be a school bus so they could transport 70 people. It's probably possible, but requires substantial changes to the parts of the vehicle that really make up the core of what it is. Pretty sure that's a terrible explanation. I wish I could do better.

I mean really .. they were in the U.S. exclusive economic zone, and had every right to be there. He said they were ordered to leave, but didn't mention if those orders came from the Russians or from the Coast Guard / Navy. If it was from RU then they should have just kept fishing. It's not like they would be fired upon. As crazy as Russia is acting, they are not insane enough to directly initiate a conflict with America.

Why don't you?

Do it, they need people

@@ether23-23 sadly because of my health problems my own countrys military and coastal Guard won't take me. Let alone USCG

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It's some video from boot camp. So, naw, probably not very well at the moment and super stressed out.

Seriously, I immediately went to the comments and started wondering why no one was talking about this....

Indeed, Amêriqua has exceeded in its understanding of the reality. What a sight: truly a big sooperpower's frame of mind

Russia has nuclear powered icebreakers. The biggest and most powerful in the world. I don't think they copied those from the Finns

@@pvbarbell1904 I am not sure if they have more than one nuclear powered icebreaker. Anyway not 50. The balance is either Finnish made, or what I suspect to be copies. By the way, unless my memory is failing worse than my age allows to me, I think the crew of the one (or first) nuclear icebreaker once made a mistake and let it freeze all around in the solid ice. One of the Finnish built icebreakers was called to cut the ice around. Icebreakers depend on movement so the ice can not grow too thick all around and in contact with the hull.

@@InssiAjaton They have been making nuclear powered icebreakers since the 50's Made around 10 or so. They are currently building some massive new ones. No other countries ice breakers can compare to those (One with twin 300+MW powerplants)

There are several strategic reasons why the United States may need more icebreakers, even if the situation is not identical to Russia's.

@@TCKRDefense Just ask Canada to do what ever the job is, they have a decent icebreaker fleet.

An icebreaker is a special-purpose ship or boat designed to move and navigate through ice-covered waters, and provide safe waterways for other boats and ships. Although the term usually refers to ice-breaking ships, it may also refer to smaller vessels, such as the icebreaking boats that were once used on the canals of the United Kingdom. For a ship to be considered an icebreaker, it requires three traits most normal ships lack: a strengthened hull, an ice-clearing shape, and the power to push through sea ice.[1] Icebreakers clear paths by pushing straight into frozen-over water or pack ice. The bending strength of sea ice is low enough that the ice breaks usually without noticeable change in the vessel's trim. In cases of very thick ice, an icebreaker can drive its bow onto the ice to break it under the weight of the ship. A buildup of broken ice in front of a ship can slow it down much more than the breaking of the ice itself, so icebreakers have a specially designed hull to direct the broken ice around or under the vessel. The external components of the ship's propulsion system (propellers, propeller shafts, etc.) are at greater risk of damage than the vessel's hull, so the ability of an icebreaker to propel itself onto the ice, break it, and clear the debris from its path successfully is essential for its safety.[2]

they own them yes but canada built it so its not like they are the leading experts on it

@@zachmoyer1849 В РФ сейчас нет ледоколов, которые построены Канадой. Только Финляндией

Wikipedia says 144, but I think that's including research positions. I thought it was closer to 90 or so.

You carry hardware and cargo in subs? Or only your canned brain?

Russia needs them now to exploit the Northern sea route not in a few decades. More than worth it if you ask me.