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Rollerguns have quickly become extremely popular among spearfishermen, and for good reason. In this video Adreno's Wayne Judge talks about the benefits of rollerguns, also touching on inverted rollerguns.
Rollerguns are perfect for providing extra power in gun that is substantially shorter than other guns. This makes it great for hunting bigger fish in cloudy water and can even be used in blue water environments.
The reason that it has the ability to perform in these ways is the nature of the shaft propulsion. The rollers on the speargun allow the rubber to continue to provide tension right until the spear is released from the barrel tip, as they rubbers are pulled over the rollers. The traditional speargun design provides tension for two thirds of the shaft before becoming slack as the rubbers are pulled towards the tip of the shaft, and so the barrel length is not exploited to its full potential.
Another great characteristic of the roller gun is its natural ability to counter the recoil of the gun. Most recoil is resultant from both the powerbands and the shaft propelling towards one end of the shaft with momentum that needs to be countered by the gun and the shooter resulting in the gun recoiling in the opposite direction. However, on a roller gun there is movement in the opposite direction as the bands move over the roller back towards the handle of the gun. This dissipates some of the momentum required to occur in the backward direction in a smoother motion reducing the recoil of the gun and allowing for a smoother shot for the same power in a lighter gun.
The inverted roller gun is controlled pulleys on the underside of the gun which allow for easier loading of the gun. The rubbers are pulled from the underside of the gun and one from the top, making it a more complex gun to load and manage. However, this is also an effective form of roller gun and great for hunting tuna in blue water conditions.

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@jeffro5032
@jeffro5032 4 года назад
Really great and informative video on roller guns man! Thank you!
@joshicune
@joshicune 4 года назад
Good and simple explanation. Thank you!
@maaifoediedelarey4335
@maaifoediedelarey4335 4 года назад
Very interesting, the inverted gun ! Thank you and greetings from South Africa
@reecerodrigues1127
@reecerodrigues1127 3 года назад
Hey! Greetings from Cape Town!
@biwack31
@biwack31 3 года назад
Very educational. Bravo
@mathewdavis-adventuresandd6643
@mathewdavis-adventuresandd6643 4 года назад
Thank you for the proper explanation on the roller gun.
@jahradspencer7099
@jahradspencer7099 6 лет назад
Love these video's!! Think i'm gonna order my Next set of Gun's from you guy's :)
@j.muckafignotti4226
@j.muckafignotti4226 2 года назад
Awesome. Thanks!
@gabbriel5304
@gabbriel5304 5 лет назад
Thats helpful thanks
@Fullsendspearo
@Fullsendspearo 4 года назад
Great bit footage guys
@mcj4129
@mcj4129 4 года назад
Awesome mate👌
@kennybradshaw2122
@kennybradshaw2122 3 года назад
Excellent!
@meolodstv919
@meolodstv919 9 месяцев назад
Wow that is may dream speargun have good quality and long use..watching here from philippines i love speargune sir ..thanks 😊🤗
@AquaticCraft
@AquaticCraft 6 лет назад
Just ordered getting keen
@dff1978
@dff1978 7 лет назад
Love the slightly angry (yet loveable) Aussie! Great advice and guidance, I shall be swinging by your store during holidays to learn about the short roller guns for Victorian waters!
@NikoMoraKamu
@NikoMoraKamu 6 лет назад
it's like a pirate trying to sell you harpoons xD
@maar3250
@maar3250 5 лет назад
Oh man, he is one of the loviest lad in person. Knew Wayne from Sydney freediver and he is very friendly and willing to guide people. :)
@ultraidtech8250
@ultraidtech8250 4 года назад
ru-vid.com/show-UCDPyJzQZUjy3Ep2MZKP1Czgfeatured?view_as=public
@MrBenski81
@MrBenski81 4 года назад
Top quality Vid Wayne!! Great to see another Ozzie business producing videos like these. Luv ya work!
@Darksagan
@Darksagan 7 лет назад
Very nice...I just wish you had links to the various items for us new people.
@frogmanant
@frogmanant 7 лет назад
thanks for the informative review. I've been out of spearfishing for 20 years, so the roller gun is new to me.The inverted roller makes a lot of sense in providing more bang per inch of barrel, but as you said, it's a bit messy.This concept of an open muzzle top is also new to me, but once again, I like the clear view it provides. Have you measured the power the gun puts out? I built my first "Man's Gun" in 1969. I fitted a Bazooka Handle & muzzle to a 4' long X 1& 1/4" diameter ally barrel, & powered it with two 28" X 9/16" rubbers. These were each stretched 4' & delivered 90lbs, so I calculated my gun put out 720 ft/lbs. I would be interested to know what the Bully Gun's stats are. I used 1 & 1/4" barrel because these rubbers on my old 1" barrel visibly bent it under load.Two unplanned benefits of the bigger barrel were more bouyancy making the gun lighter in the water, & the increased diameter meant the spear lay directly on the barrel, which made my gun very accurate.
@FaddaWolf
@FaddaWolf 5 лет назад
Don't know if you ever got a reply to this... HELL OF A GUN YOU BUILT THERE! Chris coats has a pretty detailed power chart for rollers on his website. Check it out if you're still interested. Have fun hunting those whales and submarines with that monster you built. Cheers from Trinidad and Tobago.
@riclopezvlog2379
@riclopezvlog2379 3 года назад
wow super amazing.
@PacificCoastHunterz
@PacificCoastHunterz 5 лет назад
"The Bloody Gun".. just perfect
@nigelthornberry5355
@nigelthornberry5355 6 лет назад
Hey whats the go with full length rubber on the Rob Allen Tuna? Why do some 1m rollers have different length rubber?
@internetmail3888
@internetmail3888 6 лет назад
In theory would a rollergun be more powerful if you looped the rubber back on itself twice instead of once so that there would be three layers instead of two? Thanks
@derekblas4841
@derekblas4841 4 года назад
Nice guns..
@Michael-ps7ji
@Michael-ps7ji 5 лет назад
It's like compound bow vs regular bow
@ultraidtech8250
@ultraidtech8250 4 года назад
ru-vid.com/show-UCDPyJzQZUjy3Ep2MZKP1Czgfeatured?view_as=public
@rdsspearfishingadventurer
@rdsspearfishingadventurer 4 года назад
Mannysub inverted rollergun130cm my dream speargun
@tatayspearochannel8829
@tatayspearochannel8829 3 года назад
What is the standard lenght of roller type speargun and the size of the shaft used.
@anthonychristina5038
@anthonychristina5038 7 лет назад
hate a broken rubber man XD
@RobertSalmond
@RobertSalmond 4 года назад
The direction in which the rubber is stretched has absolutely no effect on the force of the recoil. Newton's second principle! The recoil depends of: 1. The force on the arrow. 2. The mass of the speargun. The rollergun is more massive and the extra mass absorbs the recoil. 3. The rollergun has no free-swinging rubber at the end of the shot.
@launchlaunch8786
@launchlaunch8786 4 года назад
Correct. Plenty of other disadvantages as well.
@SpearoWannabe
@SpearoWannabe 3 года назад
nice
@rdsspearfishingadventurer
@rdsspearfishingadventurer 4 года назад
My 130cm inverted rollergun the golden gun is coming🙏🏻
@cobalt0681
@cobalt0681 7 лет назад
Can you do a special on PoleSpears for hunting snapper and grouper in holes. What tips are best? What length should I use?
@FineArtbySamuel
@FineArtbySamuel 4 года назад
a great tip for polespears is to buy a normal speargun
@ignatk2696
@ignatk2696 4 года назад
@@FineArtbySamuel Really good advice
@squidlyminimalisim
@squidlyminimalisim 4 месяца назад
I like a 2.5 meter spear but for caves its a bit bulky go with a 1.8 -2m a flopper tip hits harder and hold fish better as long as there isnt a rock right behind the fish which probably wont happen in a cave
@BurhanMuntasser
@BurhanMuntasser 5 лет назад
What about the "Fusion" Invert Roller gun? How is that different from the "invert" roller gun?
@DeepBlueSpirit2
@DeepBlueSpirit2 2 года назад
Fusion: its like a simple roller gun, it just 'replaces' the section of rubber traveling thru the rollers on the muzzle, by a rope. Invert: rubbers stay at the bottom of the gun. Added pulleys multiply the propulsion force to the shaft.
@okeandme
@okeandme 5 лет назад
Hello there, I love your video, very interesting for me. How long take time for get experience hunting myself. I have scuba diving certificate, but I've done not a lot dives. I prefer snorkeling.
@zazugee
@zazugee 4 года назад
please check before that you can hunt with scuba equipment in your location most of the world have banned spearfishing with scuba most recreational spearfishers learn to breathhold or do freediving training also some advice to start with a polespear before buying a short speargun as the next step and do shore spearfishing
@perfidiousalbion9975
@perfidiousalbion9975 3 года назад
@@zazugee yeah, and learn to drive a horse and buggy before you get a car.
@naturalmystics-kd9vt
@naturalmystics-kd9vt 2 года назад
Conventional old fashioned spear guns i love they work simple trouble free like ak 47
@naturalmystics-kd9vt
@naturalmystics-kd9vt Год назад
Same thing I am saying
@brandonmann4652
@brandonmann4652 4 года назад
I know all about pour trigger mechanisms had a beuchat put double 16mm bands on it itd shoot by itself even with safety on.
@DeepBlueSpirit2
@DeepBlueSpirit2 2 года назад
When changing setups (bands/shafts) always double check with your manufacturer (or check the specs of the trigger). If trigger mechs are overpowered they will misfire. Very very dangerous...
@uncook
@uncook 6 лет назад
What in indonesia have shop in bali
@donsolomon8501
@donsolomon8501 7 лет назад
Inverted rollers have to be heavily over powered to overcome the resistance of the pulleys. I use a Pathos laser carbon roller and it is incredibly fast. does an inverted roller offer that speed? I have seen a lot of guys using inverted rollers to push 7.5mm plus spears on heavy timber and carbon guns.
@ADRENO
@ADRENO 7 лет назад
Hey mate, it really depends on how you rig it. Some of the guys in here are throwing 9.5mm shafts, double wrap rigged at some pretty big fish. If you'd like to know more head to our website and get on Live Chat or give us a ring. Cheers
@simon1234567ful
@simon1234567ful 4 года назад
would you recommend a roller as a step up from my current gun. I got an entry level gun just to see if ill stick with spearfishing and ive grown to really like it. would either go for a bigger gun with double rubbers or a roller.. whats your take?
@simon1234567ful
@simon1234567ful 4 года назад
@@urb6857 sub 120 definitely (if its a roller). Depending on the brand 105-115cm
@DeepBlueSpirit2
@DeepBlueSpirit2 2 года назад
If you intend to stick with spearfishing probably go straight to a roller. It is more pricey than a standard gun but it's a very accurate, light, easy to use gun. I used a lot the standard circular band guns (and love them) - but once I speared with a roller I got in love with them. I use 99% of my time roller guns.
@mauriziogiasan4411
@mauriziogiasan4411 4 года назад
bellissimi fucili subacquei .dove si possono acquistare ?
@camilioruas5281
@camilioruas5281 4 года назад
How cost it is, Sr? how can I the rollergun
@timbatec
@timbatec 5 лет назад
is it enclosed track any good for roller?
@DeepBlueSpirit2
@DeepBlueSpirit2 2 года назад
Never thought about that. I guess is not needed. The question is why ET are used. Usually to guide the shaft when using LOTS of power so it is 'guided' when fired to make the shot more accurate. On a roller I don not see the benefit honestly. There is very little recoil on rollers as the shaft flies in one directions, and the rubbers on the bottom retract into the opposite direction.
@juanjosebrito7713
@juanjosebrito7713 6 лет назад
hi what brand is that Inverter bloody gun I'm interested about it I would like to know more about that gun
@brandonmagson6941
@brandonmagson6941 6 лет назад
Manny sub roller performer made in sydney in australia great gun i have one
@emanuelbova72
@emanuelbova72 6 лет назад
mannysub
@jhunmagsofficial2195
@jhunmagsofficial2195 3 года назад
Sir.do you have branch here in.philippines.
@jhunrylkilat4241
@jhunrylkilat4241 4 года назад
sir good day is 7mm pathos shaft fit to my pathos snipergun 115cm.? the original shaft is 6.75mm...
@urb6857
@urb6857 4 года назад
Yeah probs, most standard speargun mechanisms can take up to 8mm and a difference of 0.25mm is negligible.
@quinnculver
@quinnculver 2 года назад
Wayne, you're invited to Hawaii. Please teach me how to spearfish well.
@basakirongprobinsiano1572
@basakirongprobinsiano1572 4 года назад
How mach my friends
@alantaylor8184
@alantaylor8184 3 года назад
I got a 1100 RA roller railgun but my arms are too short! Even with the stock load-assist bungee-band. The longer load assist (nn-stock) makes a world of difference & I modified the spear shafts with stainless steel wire shark fins. But I shoulda got the 800 or 900 version. Ah well.....
@DeepBlueSpirit2
@DeepBlueSpirit2 2 года назад
Maybe try and grab the rubbers first, then push the gun to your hip... now you gut the rubbers :) and only need to pull them on the spear.
@DeepBlueSpirit2
@DeepBlueSpirit2 2 года назад
Or: 2nd option, get a longer load assist
@RICH_GAMING_AU
@RICH_GAMING_AU 7 лет назад
were the poseidon fins in the background carbon fibre?
@sgtcaco
@sgtcaco 7 лет назад
What brand is the gun on the left? Love the shape.
@ADRENO
@ADRENO 7 лет назад
Hey mate! The one on the left is a Pathos Sniper-R - www.spearfishing.com.au/pathos-sniper-r-roller-gun
@jordansue-fong9386
@jordansue-fong9386 6 лет назад
Sgtcaco if u love that shape check out the aimrite rage rollergun. Bit expensive at around 1.5k but made out of pure carbon fibre. Very nice gun👌
@ultraidtech8250
@ultraidtech8250 4 года назад
ru-vid.com/show-UCDPyJzQZUjy3Ep2MZKP1Czgfeatured?view_as=public
@Lahainalongboarder
@Lahainalongboarder Год назад
Does anyone know how you would mound a reel on this? (On the side opposite of the double wrap?) maybe you can’t use a reel and need a breakaway style set up? 🤔 🤷🏻‍♂️
@sussusamogus8860
@sussusamogus8860 11 месяцев назад
You can use a reel on inverted rollers, at least I've seen videos of it
@fitzgeraldarriola7219
@fitzgeraldarriola7219 4 года назад
Sir what the name of your shaft.. Is that a steenlees or pure metal
@bobbyburns7165
@bobbyburns7165 3 года назад
generally sandvik stainless steel
@jeffersonsantos5101
@jeffersonsantos5101 3 года назад
You said your 1.10 roller gun give same shot as your convencional 1.30 gun. Your 1.30 is double rubber? What size of rubber you use on it, 16mm on the double?
@DeepBlueSpirit2
@DeepBlueSpirit2 2 года назад
Hi Jefferson, I made the same experience. I had an 110cm roller that shot very similarly to my 1.4standard gun (2x16mm, 7.5 shaft). As the shaft is pushed longer on the barrel, this extra time means longer propulsion of shafts, therefore reaching better shooting range. I also used a beautiful heavy 3x16mm woody bluewater gun, but after a 120 roller (16mm) I just kept using this 1.2 roller. Shorter, lighter, far better maneuverability and I could do quite accurate shots even from awkward angles (soooo little recoil that bent wrists and elbows would work).
@longvo3207
@longvo3207 Год назад
How Much you cost 1 speargun , if you don’t mind can you let me know thank you sir
@alaefarmestatesllc
@alaefarmestatesllc Год назад
Wouldn’t just shortening the bands on the old style guns make up the difference? Or no way to get the same stored energy as a longer rubber kinda thing?
@sussusamogus8860
@sussusamogus8860 11 месяцев назад
Especially with inverted rollers, there is no way to get the same stored energy with an old style gun of the same length.
@machetesulaco
@machetesulaco 4 года назад
I spear gun in the Caribbean sea by Cozumel , which roller do you recommend me? I fish in clear water I need a powerful gun and sometimes shoot at long distance, could I buy you one?
@DeepBlueSpirit2
@DeepBlueSpirit2 2 года назад
Probablemente un roller de 100 de largo the vendria bien. O uno de 120cm. Eso seria lo que yo usaria en tu lugar. Gomas de 16mm y varilla de 7.5mm.
@myboilaverboy5489
@myboilaverboy5489 5 лет назад
How can we from Philippines order that inverted roller gun?
@paulgraham6353
@paulgraham6353 4 года назад
Don't, they are junk. Not worth the bother and don't work as claimed. I got one years ago and threw it away. His reinvents it with line through the rollers as the rubber would bind and not pull or stretch evenly. Theory good. Real life in the water a cruel rip off
@mikel6083
@mikel6083 4 года назад
So what is your recommendation and how much it cost
@aldringonzales7429
@aldringonzales7429 2 года назад
how much
@dzmalekvali1110
@dzmalekvali1110 4 года назад
Can you kill white shark with it?
@ahmadrosadi9826
@ahmadrosadi9826 4 года назад
Give mi gan
@murztvnah24
@murztvnah24 2 года назад
If youve done your old speargun will please send it to me, i have only DIY speargun...
@Hfd678vcdg
@Hfd678vcdg 7 лет назад
The Bloody Gun is a weapon!
@shortislam2537
@shortislam2537 4 года назад
$300 buy noww Full set
@shengyinjie9776
@shengyinjie9776 3 года назад
anyone lives in Sydney? Want to spearfishing together?
@jhersonmanongol6859
@jhersonmanongol6859 Год назад
How much in 130cm?
@med448
@med448 3 года назад
Sorry but roller invert or simple roller nothing to do with normal classic circular . I have been testing a lot but most efficient always classic double rober
@Chimib
@Chimib 6 лет назад
Great! So i'm going to cut my Factory made 130 Rollergun to a 110 so it shoots like a 130 standar railgun... Lol
@DeepBlueSpirit2
@DeepBlueSpirit2 2 года назад
Check with the manufacturer if your trigger mech can support the change (additional power).
@dalokashkur8084
@dalokashkur8084 4 года назад
كاكز زة. ذيتر
@naturalmystics-kd9vt
@naturalmystics-kd9vt Год назад
Simple spear guns i like the old conventional is better those are trouble free like AK-47 rifles
@Mielky123.
@Mielky123. Год назад
Sir can you give me a gift like that speargun
@richardanderson4916
@richardanderson4916 2 года назад
A broken rubber can have life-long consequences!!!
@DeepBlueSpirit2
@DeepBlueSpirit2 2 года назад
Hhhhh - very true brother :)
@oriocoookie
@oriocoookie 9 месяцев назад
naaaaahhhh it doesn't really have more "stretch power" .... just more bands ....
@apmikalogran
@apmikalogran 3 года назад
I don’t think so
@twiggyspearfishingja1501
@twiggyspearfishingja1501 2 года назад
Me subscribers
@genevanomio4899
@genevanomio4899 2 года назад
Hello in friend im Philippines i watching to all video my name Lloyd Aaron D.Nomio my dreaming speargun i hope gift me this account my wife i hope touch your heart thank u for read this god blessed you
@warrendonga
@warrendonga 6 лет назад
Bla bla bla $1000 bucks later
@tatayspearochannel8829
@tatayspearochannel8829 3 года назад
What is the standard lenght of roller type speargun and the size of the shaft used.
@DeepBlueSpirit2
@DeepBlueSpirit2 2 года назад
Depends on the use. Short rollers are nice in murky water. Longer rollers for reef hunting or even blue water (or good vis a vary fish). The size of the shaft depends on your roller gun length (actually the power it can develop). A 7mm shaft needs less 'power' to be pushed at a certain target distance, than a 7.5mm shaft (more weight as well). I use a 90cm roller with 16mm rubbers and 7.5 shaft, and the same setup but 1.2m barrel for longer shots / larger fish. Most used length from what I have seen is between 90 and 110 cm barrels. The 110 IMO is a very all-round and versatile one.
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