*Correction* I was wrong with the FOV Slider topic, it seems that I misunderstood the fact that Ultra wide monitors used to be a Pay-to-win thing because having 120 FOV on a ultra wide monitor used to be basically a 180 FOV during the MW19-VG era; either way I still stand with the fact that players were getting their cameras "broken" and that probably that's one of the reasons why the movement was changed (Thank You for the over 30 comments about me being wrong about the FOV) -Yes, I'm aware of the leaks (I already made a video about if you want to check it out) about that I want to day that I did this video before any leaks got out, and second that IW are still in early development of their game and people don't mention that the development of the next IW game is on a standstill due to problems inside the studio (again, check out my video) so anything can change from here to 2026.
I hate Warzone because of the unholy mix of Cocaine, Red Bull and ADHD that players are on. Warzone is only fun for tryhards or pros, not for causals like me. DMZ was perfect for its slower pace and social aspect. I made a dozen online friends during the DMZ lifecycle.
It’s funny because some people might think you are exaggerating but I promise you 100% most streamers are definitely on adderall and slamming Red Bull etc etc. cocaine and meth as well. I get it, it helps you play better. But it’s so terrible for you so why risk your health just to play better at a game? And without the drugs they are ass. They better be getting rich af from it otherwise what’s the point
Omg. You're trash at the game , there's no reason to slander us. Go play a game that has a younger player base. COD players have been playing for decades now , you expect us to miss every shot otherwise we are drug addicts ? GTFOH
Agreed 100%. I hop on MW3 like twice a week now thanks to Helldivers 2 and NCAA 25. Every time I get on MW3, I just rage because of all the people you just listed. DMZ was slower paced, had goals and objective and risk (losing your weapons, keycards, etc). It was an awesome mode that my boys and I played the hell out of. Oh, and the anxiety of dealing with real players was so awesome. I wish they'd bring it back but that's wishful thinking.
DMZ was my favorite mode since MWII launched day 1. After 200+ successful exfils I started to understand the ebb and flow of the matches, believe it or not you could at one point play however you wanted. After losing a match and having to get back all my gear again I would love to just go in full sniper recon, lot of crawling, masking, sometimes not even firing a single shot unless necessary. This did not feel like Call of Duty, it felt different in the best way possible. Up until the last time I played DMZ which was about over half a year ago, I would notice a pattern of logging on, first match would spawn in death squad bots on a buggy to instantly wipe me out. I recorded clips of this because it would seem to be consistent every time I played my first match of the day in DMZ. One of the core tenants I think players abandoned DMZ was the lack of incentive. Sure you can extract with some good loot but once your locker is already full, what's the point? Not to mention the bundle packs that give you an advantage over other players like spawning in with a revive or UAV all the time. Just like with Guitar Hero, Activision is going to burnout Call of Duty with these drip feed content drops and yearly releases. All designed to squeeze as much money out of the player in exchange for them to have the most fun experience. Fun is locked behind a paywall.
While people say it was casual and a warzone alternative I digress, the missions made this mode so intense, especially when going into the bunkers and building 21. Collecting the crates was also nightmarish.
I hated how quickly the bots would just turn into hit scanning enemies. Like we already have to deal with other players, what's the point of making the bots so impossible to fight ? Plus the longer you fought the less ammo and armor they dropped intentionally. It really sucked the fun out of the mode for me.
@@danialyousaf6456 exactly! Like there really is no aggressive bot play style curve per match its either Legendary difficulty and start over and over and over. To me it seemed like the only people who actually got the most out of DMZ was COD content streamers/content creators. Cuz they can afford to try out every battlepass blackcell bundle and take advantage of the patent that rewards players who spend money. That was the main goal in the patent documents. It took the concept of Whaling that was developed for mobile games in the early 2010's and ran with it.
@@ponyboyofficial that sucks, especially since it could've been a great alternative to tarkov. But Activision had to screw up any chance of making a fun game mode. First ruined regular 6v6 by making it pay2win and making the ttk impossibly low then ruined warzone by shoving every gun into it.
As a literal day 1 DMZ player and fan. You hit the proverbial nail on the head ! Yes that’s the biggest reason we aren’t getting updates , content etc. As much as I truly love the game mode, it’s simple economics . Thanks for the deep dive . GG
i think the problem was that IW thought players wanted a tactical shooter instead of a cod game so they invested wayyyy too much into it, and when it didn't yield favourable results (especially with all the changes they made to WZ2.0 due to DMZ having incredibly negative reactions) they just kinda pushed whatever little focus they had into just finishing up whatever they were already cooking instead of keeping the mode going. also infinity ward tried to do a stupid large amount of irrelevant things on top of the such as spec ops missions and raids (raids being a cool concept but ultimately could've been like the cold war post-season cinematics). at the end of the day infinity ward is the problem. was obvious back in mw19 and made worse in mwii
I thought MW19 blended it both pretty well. Yeah you could play a bit more tactical but you could still move fluidly and scoot around if you wanted. MW2 just kind of said "No fun allowed"
@@Casian2912019 wasn’t received well initially, it gained a following later because of Warzone. The most populated modes were the 24/7 small map playlists, SnD, and Ground War. The game largely suffered from all of the pointless changes it made like lack of a functioning mini map, squad spawns, strict sbmm, and incredibly loud footstep audio. The three modes mentioned before, including Warzone, largely remedied these issues.
@@changye9604But CoD isn’t supposed to be tactical and even in that mode it still favors the hyper movement king stuff as the base gameplay is centered around that
DMZ failed bc it was released and then they did nothing with it. The main thing that was appealing was finding blueprints u could keep but then they didnt transfer to Warzone or literally have any value. They basically wasted everyones time
DMZ suffers from an issue alot of recent CoDs have had and that's: The devs putting their eggs in too many baskets. It's not a coincidence that when CoD keeps Mp modes outside of stuff on 6v6 maps to a minimum that 6v6 has better support. MWIII shows that. People can say and wish that we get DMZ 2, more Ground War and more Raids but it's obvious CoD needs to focus and only focus on the big 4. -Warzone. -Campaign. -6v6 Multiplayer. (Gunfight can stay since that can be on small 6v6 maps instead) -Round Based Zombies. (or a different type of Zombies mode if it's not made by Treyarch, Treyarch needs to solely focus on Round Based) No Ground War mode that drains resources from 6v6/gives Activision an excuse to make less 6v6 maps. No DMZ mode that messes with Warzone. The only thing that could return is MWZ because a PvE mode with light extraction mechanics works way better in CoD than a PvPvE one and Spec-Ops has been so awful in both MW2019 and MWII that I'd rather want Infinity Ward to do a Zombies mode that takes the best parts from DMZ and MWZ.
It really feels like these games could have been part of the annual releases as spinoff experiments. I just don't like annual releases causing good ideas to get buried and underdeveloped
Side modes wise IW should’ve kept the wave mode and the Mw2019 spec ops BUT with huge changes. I love the concept of loadouts and coop missions with other players while still leveling guns and the battle pass but Mw2019s spec ops missions were very poorly designed and extremely unbalanced to an obnoxious degree… I shouldn’t have to pair with pros or have a full squad of friends to do a CoD mission. Mwz is technically not good but I enjoyed playing it far more than spec ops
The charm of a good extraction shooter is a slow, deliberate pace and deep shooting mechanics to create tension and require mastery of guns ala Tarkhov or Hunt Showdown. COD’s slip N slide, cracked out hyper fast movement, low-skill super accurate weapons and shallow health mechanics and armor system-of course there wasn’t enough depth to keep a playerbase like Tarkhov does. I wish Infinity ward was able to go all-in on their more grounded vision for COD. Chilling out the movement, focusing more on tactical, slow gameplay for EDZ
Extraction shooters can't be monetised with pay 2 win bundles. The development team ruined it themselves with 15 minute cool down weapons and free UAV's. Had they just given us missions to do that made it so you could get your cool down at 15 minutes or get 10 exfils for a free UAV it would have been fine. I still play it every night with my friends and I'll keep playing for as long as the servers are up. The non DMZ fan doesn't think there's enough of a player count but honestly I could count on 1 hand the amount of times I've met the same player twice so I still there's a solid player base.
@@ILostYourSoulwithin your region, same ish happens in WZ, Zombies and resurgence. The player count on DMZ is much smaller and less chaotic so it's easier to pay attention and recognize the names. I've run into the same teams on resurgence countless times.
@@imtoolazyforaprofilepic4961 lolno, Tarkov is definitely scummy for adding the new edition and all of the small microtransactions they said they wouldn't add. But it's still nowhere as bad as DMZ or modern day Warzone.
@@78aquamanthe countdown was horribad, but it also didn’t matter. You can still do really well with trash guns in DMZ. So it was like a fake limitation that pissed a lot of people off.
15:41 Absolutely yes, DMZ has always had a supportive community even after the updates stopped. Infinity Ward struck gold with DMZ in the sense that they were able to simplify the realistic/extraction shooter genre while still making it enjoyable. If they went on with the 2 year life cycle, who knows? Maybe it would've made extraction shooters popular for a little longer and set a new style of arcade extraction shooters of some sort but that's just my opinion. Either way, great video and thank you for shedding some light on this
We all DMZ fans would love it to be stand alone game. Right now it almost work like this. Lobbys are full at all time. I think it their decision was actually more bussines decision than just smaller player base. Its reasonable that making DMZ missions was to complex for other studios to continue. I wouldnt be suprised if zombies was supposed to be dmz 2 but they switched during development process. I will be still playing dmz but i dont know if this would be last shooter i will play ever.
I have a different theory about the slow movement. If you look at the campaign, gunsmith and early gameplay it was meant to be a slow game. They even tried nerfing the no stock and other such attachments to slow people down. They only later accepted the movmenrt and played into it with things like the cold war gunsmith. There is also the skill gap. Having to fight oponents who laser you out of the sky, one shot you with flinchless sniper rifles and soge every shot when you fight them close range probably turned off new players (at least in the eyes of activision). I remember them saying that they removed movement for accessability. In the end it seems like all of these factors combined to guarantee a slower cod: the devs wanted to realise their vision of a slow cod with a more interesting gunsmith while the company itself was pushing in the same direction as they wanted to pander to new players and push the extraction mode.
DMZ did not almost kill cod, DMZ has as many players currently as urzikstan BR, and more than Zombies. DMZ quite literally was COD's saving grace, but they fumbled the bag.
Hell yeah DMZ is badass it’s like what gets me to play a few more matches of another game mode on cod because it’s so tough like you really have to have skill for locations like building 21 and koschei. Since the stakes are so high, it kinda takes me back to the sweat levels of the golden era cod games. Love a good challenge.
Finally a good video about what happened with DMZ. I see way too many people act like it was a flawless mode so I appreciate when someone who enjoys it, is actually able to criticize it. Also one thing I’ll add when referring to MWZ’s abandonment is that the mode was developed by Treyarch and High Moon. However as of season 3 ,Treyarch left the project. What little is being released now is mostly stuff that Treyarch began making but is just being finished by High Moon and some of SHG. Sucks to see it abandoned but I can’t imagine SHG would want to dump a ton of resources into a mode that they didn’t make (and probably didn’t want) so I personally get it. Ik this video is mostly about DMZ but I figured I’d mention that since it was brought up.
Makes sense. DMZ is a like a guest star on a popular show that they hope will gain footing with all the eyes on the popular show. Most times if they Don’t hit it, they abandon it or try more times to see if the guest star grows on the audience or if not take a chance do or die. However the guest star also changed the popular show and thus the popular show was taken down with it because as you speculate they were tied to the same eco-system too closely. Most times you want the original popular thing to stay the same popular thing, but Infinity Ward believed in it so much or were desperate to not have all their work go down because Extraction shooters waned that they tied it to the popular shows(Multiplayer and warzone) like an anchor and it took them of all down. If separated the fear is the guest star(DMZ) would be left in desolation, so roll the dice to favor the guest star who wasn’t liked as much because it changed things fundamentally like when Star Wars changed Luke to bolster Rey to be his replacement which took down Star Wars.
Great video bro ..coupleof things to add into it ..1 . Phixate still plays near enough every day he is the goat. 2. I still play everyday as donmost of my friends . 3.why is it still on beta if not going anywhere with it seems crazy to let it all go for nuthing all that work and players . 4.halloween event was best in history Al maz map at night wow just wow . 5. Everyone still wants dmz but we would love a reset and fix the glitches .6.maybe delta force will wake up cod and they will see messed up trying to bin the best game mode ever seen in cod .7.sorry for the long rant but we just want dmz 2.0 either fix this or bring it out on standalone game .8.i have subbed to ur chanel and look forward to dmz videos please keep them comeing and hopefully this mess gets fixed .9.last point .how do we as players get activition to pull finger out and sort this dmz for players after all its ment to be for player not money please activition listen to us we want dmz 2.0
I never thought about DMZ affecting Warzone so much. I think your point can further be confirmed because does anyone remember at the beginning of MW3 zombies, it still said “DMZ Beta” in the top left corner as the game loaded in? I love DMZ and the memories it brought. I think you’re right though, COD players don’t have patience for a game like this. I’m personally very excited for DF Hawk Ops 🙂
I think that your theory that DMZ held Warzone back is solid but I feel that it was mishandled by Activision. DMZ was the answer to an ageing player base that was looking for a laid-back, less sweaty game mode. I never spent more on a Call of Duty game (which I have played from conception) and felt conned and betrayed when they announced that they were stopping DMZ updates. I had already preordered MW3 and had bought so many bundles because we were told they would transfer to MW3. Wrongly assuming DMZ was going to continue. I haven't spent a penny on MW3 since and won't in the future. I still play DMZ and don't find the glitches a major problem, even on EU servers and would love to see it as a stand-alone game with its own development when its ties to other modes are severed.
Its on you bro you didnt think that the gamemode supported by infinity ward might take a break when infinity ward starts their next games development. But no you had to buy impulsively.
Why can't I pay for DMZ and its onwards development? If there was a £30 option to play it, I'd pay it! To think how much time and effort they pi$$ed away on zombies.
I really liked that mode. Even sadly development ended there is noting to worry about gameplay wise. Similar game gonna be released on steam (alpha access) named Delta Force Hawk Ops so if anyone wanna try it you can.😄
modern multiplayer fps games are too hardcore to have fun for most players, DMZ was different, casual players had fun... is it ever coming back? no.. reason is: hardcore gaming brings more money cos it convinces players that they would be better in game if they buy this or that, and the only way they would even think of bringing DMZ back is if they find a way to sell you something over and over again during the lifetime of the game.. and they tried to do so by selling you shorter weapon cooldowns and better equipment at the same time they destroyed the game, and, realizied that they couldnt not return it as it was and its much easier to abandon this mode..
7:57 is bang on, the game mode also slowly started to run worse and worse on older pc hardware with updates, im actually mind blown, PURE PURE INCOMPETENCE
I actually freaking loved DMZ it has a gameplay loop that is hard but not impossible, the biggest thing that makes it unenjoyable is when some lazy piece of crap stays at the exfil Helio and kills you because they came from warzone and don't understand the concept of playing a game properly with out ruining it for others. It was fantastic in every way and I can't understand why they traded that for the stupid zombies we have now
Great video! DMZ was my favourite game mode (aside from round based zombies) in COD and when they cut support when MWIII released, I almost stopped playing COD completely. The MWIII Zombies mode is a complete joke compared to DMZ especially at it is literally just the DMZ Halloween event with pvp turned off. I think the main reason they discontinued support for DMZ is that they couldn’t milk the players for money like they do with Warzone, you can see they tried to with the pay to win DMZ bundles that gave you a free UAV at the beginning of every game but ultimately failed. Hopefully Delta Force: Hawk Ops will fill the DMZ void when it releases.
There is a few hiccups on your video 1.- FoV Slider was 1st on cold war for console 2.-The backpack system wasnt the same after an update this proves that the fake “ecosystem” thing you are talking about crumbles down it was all down to IW calling the shots. And no WZ MWIII Backpacks is the same just beacuse it works. If it isnt broken dont fix it.
Even tho i hate being hunted down multiple times and i kept losing my stuff but I enjoyed playing this Mode and there was some rare moments where I met some Players who are chill and i am glad I able to make amazing memories when DMZ was released
Weirdly enough DMZ probably caused me to play warzone more than I ever would have if DMZ wasn’t there. Once they stopped supporting DMZ I also found myself done with Warzone.
I loved DMZ when it came out it’s all I played literally spent every night on it, but the whole constant pvp with teams griefing, camping bodies, 6 man map wiping squads just ruined it for me I enjoyed the story missions and grinding the challenges and upgrades was fun for me, but like I said the constant pvp just ruined it for me
I plated this mode for months straight. The Serpentine Run is single handedly one of the most satisfying feelings I ever got unlocking a camo (it's my default camo across all weapons and the only one that has an obsidian texture if you look closely). Met a lot of dope people in this mode, met some of the absolute worst humanity had to offer, had some of the most infuriating rage to ever come over me trying to get obhectives and story bits done just to unlock passive upgrades. The one thing that always threw me in this mode was if you pull a finisher it would stop on the frame where u get the kill and it made them look super awkward, I ever discovered a glitch that let you keep 10 perks across all characters no matter the exfil streak. Point being, this mode meant a lot to me and I'm.always reminded of the pain and grind with my serp camo
dude thank you for the history, the information and the analysis even if you're wrong I don't care I appreciate your ideas. I have a friend i Ravensoft and he's not been able to confirm anything but you're not wrong about drama between teams/companies.
Thansk for taking the time to make the video. Lots of great points all which make sense but as you have presented and it's one or two things its all of the above. New fan here I'll go back and watch your videos and keep watching your new ones but I wonder how the servers will stay up for!!! Also, will we still Delta Force videos on your channel I wonder???
Sadly i think they killed it off because it lacked depth and it bascially competed with warzone when it should have been touted as something separate with more separate development. They were just a little too closely tied together.
I liked dmz because you had impactful firefights with other players, and had the choice to be merciful or evil. The comms were hilarious. And it was a less comlpex extraction shooter without exstensive wound mechanics. Interesting ai behavior (specifically with konni being friendlys) and the shenanigans that come from using the skin that they use for being disguised. Had alot of fun going in with nothing and coming out with another players full kit. Even if it wasnt much.
DMZ was fun. I had a good time just vibing and completing challenges. I had hoped it would be a fun side mode to replace spec ops going forward. The only thing that annoyed me was Raids which told a story i couldn't play because you had to squad up. With DMZ doing stuff like Building 21 was cool but a really tough challenge.
DMZ was going to be Warzone. BR was being replaced by an extraction game. WZ1 success forced them to make DMZ as a secondary option. This is why so many of DMZ mechanics and PVE elements were present in WZ.
I believe Warzone 2 and Multiplayer aggressive SBMM actually killed the game, not DMZ. After the first couple months, I hated the Warzone changes (away from MW2019) so much I stopped playing that mode entirely. My old BR gang that played with me multiple times a week in MW2019 quit sooner than I did. As for the multiplayer, it was frustrating to play whether I just wanted to chill out and have fun or if I wanted to get competitive and try my best. It wasn't even useful for ranking up guns because DMZ did that better. End result: MW2 DMZ was the only mode that saw significant play for me and at least 3 other people I played the game with. It was the most approachable and consistent provider of fun. Maybe this is confirmation bias, but most of the CoD content on RU-vid was DMZ at the time. Not Multiplayer or League, and certain-fuckin-not Warzone 2. MW3 has not done better either and has convinced me not to buy CoD titles for at least 3-5 more years. I was hoping Battlefield would make a comeback, but right now my eyes are on Delta Force and titles completely outside of the arcade FPS genre. EDIT: I will agree however that DMZ/CoD brought out a massive identity crisis. They tried to take a fundamentally hardcore mechanic gametype, and get casuals to enjoy it. Casual gameplay (absolutely nothing wrong with it) just simply doesn't benefit from high risk and punishment mechanics of extraction gamemodes. Trying to soften those mechanics to the point, also just removes the incentive to play for those that want hardcore mechanics. Can't have your cake and eat it too sort of dilemma. Design decisions such as castrating snipers and meta-cementing SMG's, yet building big maps with wide open coverless spaces also drastically hurt the game no matter what mode you decided to play.
Recommend Battle Rifles (TAQ-V (best), FTAC Recon, Cronen Squall), or Marksman Rifles (Lockwood MK2 (best), Tempus Torrent, TAQ-M), as the mentioned weapons are excellent at chewing through bot armor. Even some handguns, namely the GS Magna, are very good at shredding armor, the GS Magna can do it in as few as 1-4 shots. The P890 can also technically kill a fully armored bot with a single mag, but it's less efficient than the GS Magna, as it can down unarmored bots in 1 body shot, somewhat armored in 2 body shots, and fully armored bots in 3 to 4, assuming you're close range.
Dmz and the campaign were the only good thing about mw2 (I didn't buy it but it looked really good) so for me this was only reason I played mw2, warzone is trash.
Dmz was the most downright insane crazy toxic yet friendly game I've played in years and it's amazing for it. I don't think it should have worked as well as it did but it just worked
I stopped playing Warzone with all my friends in Season 4 when they introduced SBMM, then they changed the game engine to a horrible clunky feel and we have no intentions of going back. MW19 was peak CoD.
Dmz players were the problem so toxic. They werent good and its clear they would lose there first gun fight and gulag in warzone. It was like playing in the kiddy pool 1v1 and im not good but was a god in dmz. Despite me being nice to guys the people were always ass wipes. I was a solo but could squad wipe by myself but the amount of people would fight me for no reason and i would knock and let self revive and go on my way that would try to fight me again and ild have to full kill or the 6 man teams exfil campers. I mainly used it to level snipers against ai and the players were just a holes. Needed a armoured vehicle just to exfil. When theres usually no point in killing other players i had nothing on me except a half leveled sniper but you could tell these guys didnt get alot of kills.
I like your take, I don't buy the "the game wasn't profitable" reasoning either. It is crazy to think however with the amount of creators like you, myself, and many others (much bigger than us) and the following this game has, SOMEONE isn't taking notice of this.
i found concept art and level design artwork posted on artstation's website. you can see hints there of cancelled content (second year expansion maybe?) and ideas they dabbled with (example: night maps, way before the halloween event). in terms of artdirection and -execution i find mw2 superior to mw3. much more love to detail and level design. urzikstan is kind of bland whereas maps like al mazrah have quite some heavy environmental storytelling that i simple dont see/feel in urzikstan. you can find physical artifacts described in found dmz notes in in al mazrah. i feel the same for verdansk but not for current urzikstan which is kind of all over the place without direction (intersection of zombie lore with wz level design, wtf). the lack of sbmm in dmz was actually a quite refreshing feature allowed for more casual gameplay. when im done with the current battlepass i usually tend to come back to dmz. it feels like a well worn sofa at this point, waiting for me 😄
DMZ was a branch off of the free to play Warzone, not a 3rd mode to MW2. So in the post talking about MWZ recieving the most engagement of a 3rd mode in a MW game. It's only comparing it to Spec Ops in MW2019 and Spec Ops/Raids in MW2
DMZ was a lot of fun. Casual extraction shooter with only the good parts of modern CoD. Fighting to get on the helicopter against campers and other groups trying to get off the map was a ton of fun. I swear I had Sasha from Behind Enemy Lines chase me around the entire map one round, guy was dedicated to getting me never saw anything but his scope glint. lol
Cold war was the first cod to have the fov slider for console. Warzone didn't get the fov update until mw2 (2022) was released. For some reason if you played warzone on console you had to deal with 80 fov even tho the multi-player for both Cold war and Vanguard had the setting...
I played DMZ a few times, maybe about eight hours worth and though its potential was in the beginning amazing, that soon became a nightmare. So many times while playing with a team your were eliminated by what could be very suspicious activity and game play. The one factor that was important to me was the ability to play solo. After attempting that about five times and the possible suspicious game play by others, just as they eliminated me in the game, my interest in DMZ also died. It is about the money. Nothing more. In the current offering in MW3 in multiplayer coming up against those who have invested money in purchasing the various offerings by Activision, it has become either apparent or paranoia has set in that when encountering one of those players who have purchased the whiz bang accoutrements, even if you believe that the encounter was to your advantage, you were eliminated with the effects of their purchase. I am beginning to believe that those of us without the whiz bang effects will not win an encounter with those who have it. Just as EA has managed to kill a franchise, Battlefield, which I have a few thousand hours of play time, I do not play it anymore. The same with Apex Legends; after the ninth of tenth new character I stopped any play time with them and I got a lot of enjoyment from it. Activision has done the same for Call of Duty. You pay to win has been the straw that broke the camel back for me. My interest in COD was second to Battlefield but this goes back to 2007 and in that time I have played many versions of COD and my favorite was Black Ops 2. The zombies mode I did not get interested in until BO3 but since that time have over 5000 hours play it zombies. Black Ops 3 Zombies was the last one that made it fun. BO4 Zombies I still play and the other offerings of Zombies in some of the newer games is not worth the time. No interest. You think with the Black Ops 6 offering I would get excited. Its Treyarch and they were at one time a studio to emulate in quality and stories, but I am not going to waste my money or time with it. As a matter of fact, there is a no game I will more than likely play that will give me more enjoyment and not have to spend as much money; PowerWash Simulator. You thought I was going to write X-Defiant. Played it. To rich for my blood and besides there are to many rabbits.
I’m only at the intro rn…but if you go on to talk about the relationship between Infinity Ward and Activision then I think you’re on the right track. DMZ has a massive following and they can’t say it wasn’t successful, I think it has to do with how much those companies hated each other.
i like how you mentioned MWZ 1:32 coz one of the reason i bought MWIII in the first place is because MWZ, DMZ combine with zombies which i love the idea of it, and then it barely got any content after season 1 and then came the usual cod disappointment 1:46 looking at this makes me wonder why they don't just put Koschei Complex, heck even Building 21 and put zombies spin on it, it would be better than just some part of al-mazrah... i remember how good Koschei Complex in DMZ unlocking those parts for kastov-762 'heated madness' blueprint... i just wish MWZ have some sort of that progression and reward sorry for my out of topic rambling about MWZ in DMZ video lol, i just want to vent out because season 5 reloaded is probably the end for MWZ with it's final story mission, anyways good job on the video man keep up the good work
I started playing warzone when wz2 was released and I loved dmz. Today I'm not playing as much as I used to, not because I got bored of it but because it's too sweaty. And I have to say I'm a sweaty player in warzone but when I play dmz I just want to feel like I'm playing an extraction shooter not a slower version of warzone with multiple bugs that destroys the game
I always imagined it's because like how Treyarch's baby is Zombies (especially with how they supposedly gatekept Zombies from the other studios until Activision seemingly forced their hand), DMZ is also IW's baby. I can't imagine IW would allow SHG to just take over DMZ and maybe in their eyes ruin it or whatever petty shit. I wouldn't lose hope until IW announces their next game whenever that is. I remember well over a decade ago when Zombies was new and I & a lot of people were wondering if BO1 would even have Zombies. With MW3Z, I don't think they were lying when they said that specifically MWZ was the most successful MW side mode, I just think Treyarch weren't anticipating it to be a hit and didn't plan for much content or perhaps they couldn't because those resources would've defo gotten pulled into the next game (BO4 anyone?).
So moral of the story: cracked out, idiotic, slide canceling, bunny hopping, mouth breathers are why the best mode COD has EVER made was killed at birth. God I hate that community.
As a DMZ fan as far as I know sledgehammer don’t have permission to continue DMZ along with the fact that mostly they care about warzone and didn’t think that they needed to bring it which is stupid
Its crazy how much potential DMZ had, they could've made it really good, also its kinda of one of a kind, imagine tarkov but call of duty, which is awesome for the casual players, sad thing is, half of the tarkov stuff isn't there, i feel like if they added some of the core components of tarkov, it could've been a banger. Me and my dad played the crap out of DMZ because of how fun it is and it had AI as the main focus, and the concept was cool, but when we defeated pyro and got all of the best gear there was nothing really else, which i feel if they had more it would be awesome. This was my two cents, thank you DMZ.
DMZ almost killed cod? 😂 not even close in fact it was just the core game that almost killed cod. Why do you think they started too rush the production of mw3 towards season 5 in mw2? It was due too the rapid decline of the playerbase. We all came into mw2 hoping that they wouldve expanded the experience from mw1 but nope they shot themselves in the foot and it was truly deserved
6:22 MWIII's existence debunks this tho, given it had a relatively short production time of a little over a year, starting in the middle of Season 5 of Vanguard and getting *faster* in response to the criticisms facing MWII's movement. A dev at one point (I forgot who) mentioned the creative decisions behind MWII were deliberate and in response to Warzone steering away from "the roots of Warzone" that Treyarch and Sledgehammer brought to the fold, so the only logical conclusion there is that the movement was done in response to how people exploited the systems Warzone 1, which Raven went onto encourage. 12:02 This is also not true in the slightest. This is something a developer stated to defend the game on Twitter, but was debunked by a dataminer who revealed the red dots are a per-gamemode toggle, and Infinity Ward purposefully disabled the ability to enable them for the end user. This is corroborated by XclusiveAce who was able to play MWII in a private play session earlier, where him and many other content creators praised IW for having red dots, only for a notable frustrated dev to forcible stop the session and disable the feature for every player. The ability to have red dots is not tied to the code or engine, it's a function built into it they don't want people to access.
DMZ was the reason why I even played mw2 the chaos that was created it was like a show you didn’t know what happened next until you get there when they ended support I was going to quit but didn’t as fortnite was dead to me and I’m on last gen Xbox so I can’t get any newer games so I was forced to play but dmz was still enjoyable even with the glitches and the sweats
Hope you read this bro, i'd like to add some things, as a multiplayer main i enjoyed a month or two of DMZ, but it got stale for me because the mode is not for me, not because it was bad. However, what IW did with MW2 and DMZ combined was bad for COD. And i'll explain. First of all, the MW2's movement and it's general mechanics were very out of place, and didn't fit the game. If you argue that its great for DMZ then i have no objections, but because it was applied to the WZ and MP it hurt the gameplay on that side of the game a lot. People got the perception that COD is now a milsim game, or it should be "tactical" and so on. CoD was never like that. Now combine this with the fact that they named the game Modern Warfare 2, which attracted a lot of "sentinels" with the nostalgia bait, there was barely anything in the game from MW2 at all, it was just a marketing gimmick in the end 🤦♂️ so all this lead to a lot of dudes in their 30s+ to hop in the game and get disappointed and throw tantrums. That group of people to this day still talking about things such as realism or "adhd kids" running around and ruining the game for them. The gameplay we saw in MW2 was obviously an experiment or a passion project that didnt work out. And it left all the grown midlife crisis having sentinel dudes still raging here and there in the community. I wish MW2 never happened as a whole although i enjoyed DMZ for some time.
I enjoyed DMZ but when it first started getting more popular over warzone (which didn’t last very long) all the warzone plays jumped in and ruined the fun for everyone who was trying to push the DMZ community to work together. After that every match was kill or be killed
