Why wasn't Portugal Conquered by Spain? 

The Real question is why wasn’t Spain part of/ conquered by Portugal. Those who know history know.

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@@user-zt2wc3uh1l blame the templars 🤣🤣

This was good , in school it taked 2/3 years to learn this and allways a little confusing and boring ( just words above words ) , its kind a easy when we the story like this

Outnumbered but outstanding in strong will.

This applies to all the Portuguese football talent despite its small population

@@pieceD399 it's a good video but its a resumed version of Portuguese History, it only talks about some main points particularly in it's relationship with spain, those 2/3 years teach a lot more about Portuguese history and with more detail, but I understand it might be boring for some people and it's fine, nowadays there are a lot of videos like this that make it easier and more fun to study history but some of them have mistakes so check the comments.

As a portuguese man I have to confirm this

Wow, how did the manage to do that?

​@@arishokqunari1290smart general and a good defensive position.

By the way, the spanish army defeated at Aljubarrota, was in fact a coalition of spanish and french and therefore a very powerfull army with heavy cavalry. This battle is not even taught today in Spain’s schools, such was the defeat they have suffered.

@@jpossolloLmaoo I’m Portuguese and when some of my Spanish friends compare Portugal to Spain I make them remember about that battle

@@RamalhoRodrigo LoL.. We fight bulls with a piece of cloth. And you fake that while climbing on a horse. We discovered Brazil 4 months before the portugeese you say did first. Liars. And Christiano Ronaldo married an spaniola too. Take that..

A defenestration a classic

Because they were propped up by the Superpower of the time France until even France got sick of them.

You did a great job compared to us, the Catalans. Respect! 🫡

You was united with the spanish and is normal because you are the closest latin people to each other, your language is very very similar and you are bordering each other for over 1500 years, italians and french are latin too but their history is completely different, on the other hand portugal and castille later spain have influenced each others history

@@ÀlexMotosiCuervo Portugal és independent perquè nosaltres ens vam aixecar en armes abans que ells. Si haguessim esperat una mica seriem nosaltres els que seriem independents

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Yes and no. There are technically 3 dates that can be considered the start of the kingdom of Portugal. 1128 Afonso is declared king after the Battle of São Mamede where he defeats his own mother, the current countess of Portugal at the time; 1139 the Pope recognizes Portugal as a sovereign kingdom; 1143 the king of Leon recognizes Portugal as a sovereign kingdom. Personally, I always mentioned these 3 dates, but for me the true date is 1128. Because by that logic Taiwan (and other examples) is never going to be a country until China says so.

@@DiogoqFonseca Yes, 1128 is also a strong contender, though some historians disagree is the use of title of king after the Battle of São Mamede was consistent, while there is no doubt about it being claimed and used consistently after 1139 (the Battle of Ourique). For that reason, I tend to consider 1139. (BTW, you made a typo regarding papal recognition: you meant 1179.) What I'm sure is that 1143 is not the date to consider. As I said, we don't consider 1668 to be the year Portugal reinstated its independent monarchy (we consider 1640), and we also don't consider 1803 to be the year the US became independent (we consider 1776) - so why consider 1143 for Portugal?

@@GazilionPT The pope recognized Portugal as a kingdom, don't know what sources you used, even before the king of Castilla and Leon, so each, accordingly to your statement, in 1139 (when the facto in 1139 Afonso Henriques was made king - for the second time, the first time was when he defeated his dear mother and castillian lover on the fields of Ourique and never again did anything relevant for Portugal neither to Castilla e Leon - and Portugal a kingdom; only in 1179 the Pope and thus the Vatican and the Holy Church, via Papal Bullae, recognized and really I don't even care about it because it was not for him to decide - for the better or the worst the Vatican tried to meddle in British affairs with Henry the VIIIth and they got kicked of there giving origins to the Protestant Church with the king, and all others after him, becoming the ruler of the Church, but I digress), 1143 by our future Nuestros Hermanos (Spain didn't exist yet, being such territory majorly by the Kingdoms of Leon Castilla, but there were others like Aragon, eg.) recognized our independence as a Kingdom per se. 1179 is a just mere fictional date, as I already made point the Vatican, near us, had much more influence over France and the latter joint kingdoms that make up as we now know, more here less there, the Kingdom of Spain - which the ones we had a feud with... see 1143 and the treaty of Zamora. So as the US as very well compared celebrate their independence from the Brits (even if the Brit King only come to terms with his loss in 1803) on the 4th of July, 1776 we Portuguese also celebrate our independence on the year of 1139 when we proclaimed it and not when (1143) the losing side decided to accept their defeat. They would still rule Portugal with their Fillipe II, III and IV, but in a bright day of 1640 nor closets nor house terraces barriers saved the invaders from our people retaking independence - retaking, because we already had achieved it centuries before (the period of the Filipes lasted only 60 years on our ~900 years as a nation, enough to bury our navy and treasure, but not our spirit). Cheers

Maninho , quando te perguntam a data de nascimento de Portugal , a resposta correta é e sempre será 1143 🤣 o resto é semântica , eu posso dizer que conquistei a minha aldeia , se nenhum governo atual o reconhecer sou só maluco 🤣

Almost gave you the 70th like. My bad, dude 😅

I found it an awesome place to live in, but a frustrating place to earn a living- including a school closing whilst still owing me around 3700 Euros.

@@stevev238 right exactly I’m making money elsewhere and looking to move later. Working in Europe is a nightmare and South America is a corrupt shit show all around no matter where you go

Brasil has nothing to do with Portugal. Completly different countries and states of mind. Portuguese people are almost opposite to Brasilien people in personality.

​@@NunoPortugalPro?

​@@NunoPortugalPro ?

Even the great italian sailors admited Portugal was the best in the seas.

@@jplacido9999 Great Italian sailors? What are you talking about? Italy was inexistent during the age of Discovery and Columbus is widely considered a horrible sailor.

Portugal had so many good sailors that the first guy to go all around the world by boat was employed by the spanish, but was portuguese...

@@TheMrJizzus Yes he was, sir 👍

Thiago Braga from Brasão de Armas mentions that

Haha, you're most definitely Portuguese, can't fool me lol

So is Spain, so what's your point?

@@anotherthez7598 lots of portugese in Massachusetts

​@@CrankCase08 Not everything needs to be about you -_-

@@debs1625 Who said it was?

In Aljubarrota Spain didn't exist

You no know the Battle of Isla Terceira agaisnt Prior de Crato loose and opossed to Spanish King Phillip ll😂

@@Benito-lr8mz True, the Azores islands have always had problems with Pirates!!! 😂

@@Ruicarrico To be fair, Spain also didn't exist in 1492. The entity we now know as "Spain", didn't occur with the union between Castille and Aragon. Like the Iberian Union later on with Portugal, both were still separate kingdoms with their own sovereignty. It was only after the War of Spanish Succession in the 18 century that the concept of Spain was born. Before that, they were still referred as Castilians etc. Heck, the language we know now know as Spanish, is in fact 'Castilian'/Castilian Spanish. Same way people say Chinese when the correct term is Mandarin, or Mandarin Chinese.

@@DiogoqFonseca totally agree

That it's true but Portuguese people do not like Castela. The best Spanish people are from Galiza, Catalunha and Bascos.

​@@antonionunes9525com esse comentário parece que te incluiste no grupo "chilldish comments". Gente boa e parvos existem em todo lado.

​@@SobreiroGrati Olivença = Dombass Serei o unico que vê hipocrisia na coisa?

@@hugopereirinha1003 sei onde queres chegar, mas isso ainda é mais "childish comment" que o do António acima. Sem nexo, estúpido e infantil.

@@SobreiroGrati e infelizmente gente ingénua que pensa que a história dos povos ou das fronteiras do mundo está estagnada. Nunca esteve, está ou estará.

Love y'all Brits

Why are you living there “VERY quietly”? 🤔

So stick around ...u're safe here

​@@rtmusicvideos431cz round here "who Cares 😂😂"...

@@Carlos-j4x6n 👍🤗

Landscape and its features were one of the major, if not the most important, deterrants against Spain. Historically, since the romans and pretty much until the industrial revolution, there was only really 2 or 3 good ways to get inside. The borders were probably defined like that on purpose since the beginning, the first kings fought the moors and learned quickly how much influence terrain has in the outcome of a battle. Portugal's borders are indeed connected with water elements, such as rivers and smaller but harsh water streams, rocky mountains, ravines, etc. And even if an invader got through that, they would find even more mountainous terrain, dense forests and people willing to do guerilla tactics. Not only that, but by checking the position of portuguese castles/fortresses that are near the border, especially the early Templar ones, you can tell they take advantage of high ground and natural moats. And by sea would also be hard, cliffs, dunes and salt marshes are hard to get through and there's also plenty of fortresses in key points around the coastline. There's many factors to why Portugal wasn't conquered but land management and strategy-proactiveness was a big part of it for sure!

yep, there's a reason our borders are some of the oldest unchanged ones around, they kinda made themselves

But the entire Atlantic Ocean wasn’t a problem for Spain to take lands in the Americas??

Spain was exhausted from the reconquista, but still conquered half of Europe? This video is so ridiculous.... Spain was a catholic country, as well as Portugal. Spain invaded the Netherlands and had some parts of Germany under control because of religious wars. They had no interest in conquering Portugal, they had their Virreinatos, not colonies BTW, in America to be wealthy. No need yo conquer Portugal, a catholic country.

@@danieldol.1930the European Union 🇪🇺 done a better job than Spain did 😉

Im from Galicia, and I totally agree.

GALICIA IS PORTUGAL, NOT SPAIN! ✌

Galiza é portuguesa como nós, se tem dúvidas,vá lá,pergunte aos irmãos Galegos que eles dizem. Consideram-se portugueses e não espanhóis,mesma a nossa língua tem origem no galego,não só o Latim. E mais não digo,informe-se,documente-se. Tenha um bom domingo

O que diz é correcto,a minha outra resposta é já a pensar no que poderá aparecer aí em frente nos comentários. Um homem bem preparado... Como bom Tuga,vale por mil! Bom domingo a todos.

Um bom bocado do nosso norte era parte da Galiza. I wrote down in Portuguese on purpose. I like it 👌

Moreover, "spain" stole it's name from the roman province hispania (the whole peninsula). They "become" spain after clinical marriages (sometimes inbetween direct family, habsburg style) to subdue and annex independent kingdoms. So "spain" it's just a federation of former kingdoms and in my opinion far from being unite, as we Saw recently with the basque country and catalonia.

Sim foi uma união real mas na prática perdemos independência, ainda que formalmente nunca tenhamos sido parte de Espanha.

@@jonaspereira007 pela mesma lógica a Espanha perdeu a sua independência ao mesmo tempo que Portugal? Qual é o império independente que resultou da união temporária? Nenhum? 💀

@@PaleBluePot Uhm yeah, like many other countries in Europe became the countries we know now, by union or split. Italy didn't exist before 1861, as a state, The Netherlands was created from a union and a split, England was divided by 7 kingdoms before 802. Even Germany consisted of 25 countries before 1918

@@maranon1971 Yes, idiotic to think that countries appeared united by magic, excepting Spain. Even Portugal had to conquer Muslim kingdoms to have its final borders. And I say "Muslim", not Moor, because although many Berbers came to colonize the land, most of the people were already there and just converted to Islam. Actual genetics of the peninsula people shows it clearly: only 10% in average is from Arabo-Berbers (most is 20% in south Portugal), the remaining is from Roman (20% in average, most in south Portugal too) and pre-Roman population (more than 65% in average). Truth is that likely a lot of Muslims were expelled from the peninsula after reconquista and during the inquisition period. So, there has been some ethnic cleansing, specifically in Castille.

It was ouccupied in name for a tiny amount of time but they rebelled

@@Open__56 True. Would have been for a longer time if the Franks hadn't pushed them back.

​@@faenethlorhalienFranks? In Spain maybe Astures and Basconians or Navarrese ; Aragonese people

​@Benito-lr8mz there were Frankish incursions into Spain for retribution against the Moorish invasion.

Asturias was (briefly) occupied but never conquered.

Technically, "Iberia" was the land of the Iberians, a people that lived in the southern -eastern peninsula. So even most of Spaniards aren't "sons of Iberia", and definetly not the Portuguese. The Iberian Peninsula just has that name because, when the first Greeks arrived at the peninsula, they found the iberians first. If they had landed a bit to the south, it would be called Turdetanian Peninsula xD

Portuguese are sons of the lusitanians

@@Tusiriakest He's obviously talking about how the Portuguese and Spaniards have always been close in their "mother" peninsula, not about actual lineage to Iberians, stop being pedantic lol

@@C0DERedEdits I wasn’t being “pedantic”… I was sharing a fun fact…

@@Tusiriakest also iberia is a place in the caucasus too fun fact

Por eso, México.

I know. Had they kept all their land and didn’t have to compete with the English and later Americans, they’d probably be the biggest nation on Earth. At least until their colonies declared independence. Overseas colonies have a bad habit of doing that

De Soto Definitely Came thru the Carolinas

( 1831 ) Spain sold land to ( U.S. ) 1821 Florida🐊.

@@ADMusic1999 Spain never had colonies in America. Every piece of land conquered had the same status as any other province in Spain and their citizens the same rights than any other Spaniard by mandate of Isabella I of Castile

Portugal has not ever been Savvy with financial ressources. Logistically we failed for morr than 700years.

Wouldn't that be suicidal?

Portuguese troops conquered Madrid in 1706, not many people know that

Why Brazil never conquered Portuga… oh wait it’s happening (at least culturally)

@@raffausfaus no one here likes your shitty music

Im from Portugal and although Portugal is a relatively small country it ain't that easy to invade and bring military logistics trough here, aside from the Alentejo region of Portugal that consists of a more flat plain fields, the rest of country tends to be very rugged and hilly

@@MartynLeopard Two ways in, no ways out.

@@MartynLeopard Yep, but even Alentejo would be quite hard to cross, the "flatiness" of it is just a general idea, in reality there's plenty of hills where castles/fortresses were built and are surrounded by those flat plain fields, which made it easy to spot enemies. Not only that, but Alentejo's borders are defined by rivers/streams and the land itself can be quite harsh in some seasons, which would probably limit the timing/length of invasions.

@@danieldol.1930 And it leaves an army on the wrong side of the Tagus with the nearest crossing for an army being Santarem which was heavily fortified.

@@PeterOConnell-pq6io and our history of, let's call them guerilla-adjacent tactics, creates a bit of a "we are not stuck here with you, you are stuck here with us" situation

Because after suffering in the battle of Torro they offered the entire Atlantic dominion to Portugal if Isabella was spared.

Im galician from Vigo so i can speak about that. we speak same lenguage than portugal but we all know is better life as Spanish. And if we speak about war, i know Portugal will not attack us because we are like brothers but its clear Spain can smash portugal so easy... People from Vascongadas and cataluña alone can destroy Portugal dont need more than 25% from spanish people for that. Sorry about my English i dont speak it since school.

@charlitounderground95 They couldn’t because they didn’t, the wonder Building in Batalha is only one example, that’s history. But if we talk about today it’s a silly thing to discuss because Spain simply can’t , they’d have Brazilians from the West, British from the South, French from the North, Italians from the East marching in while they crumbled from the inside, modern politics is very polarized.

@@Leontemplar-yt6ff okei, yes thats true, Spain cant because so many countrys will help portugal, same if portugal try conquer Galicia, EEUU and UE will stop that, but in 1 vs 1 is obvius what will happen if someone want do something. Btw spain and portugal are like brothers so this conversation have no sense

No one was talking about the present. Only Putin is idiot enough for that.

Yes, and with a line some difficult-to-measure distance from a set of islands also some difficult-to-measure distance from Rome. Or wherever. This was long before anyone could measure longitude with any accuracy. You've got to admire the chutzpah of those Popes.

It came with a cost, the cost of the noble and decent people to be shipped away and never return (most of them)

the Tordesillas Treaty

It's easy to just draw a line and say you have that half, and we'll have this half. The reality was very different. Having the man power to conquer countries half way around was never possible and even sailing around the world wasn't, otherwise Australasia would have been discovered by the Spanish or Portuguese. Then add to France and Britain quickly surpassing them as the worlds leading powers made the treaty utterly meaningless.

​@@creepingdread88it was a way to avoid conflict between the two nations over colonial claims. That's all. And initially it only applied to "newly discovered" territories along the Atlantic. For instance, the Pope first proposed such a treaty, and he surely didn't mean Portugal could take control of his possessions in modern Italy. The Pope wanted to avoid wars between Christian countries. Particularly two countries in a great position to spread Christianity to Africa and America.

Not just connection, Portugal was the home of the reborn Templars after the whole... French king needing money and accusing the organisation of eating babies thing.

@@DrVictorVasconcelos IAM A TEMPLAR, YEEEEEEEEY

@@DrVictorVasconcelos you still see the templar cross in every sporting event, the military and awarded commendations in Portugal.

Indeed. After the Templars became persecuted across Europe, Portugal remained one of the few only nations still friendly to them, so many of the Templars that could, fled to Portugal. They were eventually rebranded by the Portuguese king as the Order of Christ in order to try and distance themselves more from the whole Templar thing and persecution.

A crusader state from the very beginning

I can't unsee it now

Because you can't spell DIDN'T

@@donttalkcrap well, can't be good at everything lol

António Boa pergunta amigo.Portugal é só um país a Espanha são varios países com 5 idiomas diferentes.

@@donttalkcrap you sure got them

M8, u funny 😂

But that battle was between Castile (not Spain) and Portugal, and, as was usual at the time, it was for dynastic reasons, as there were many in those centuries because all the kingdoms that emerged from the Reconquista wanted to lead the reunification of Spain, basically.

Lo que está perdido es tú perspectiva de la Historia. No hubo jamás un intento de conquista entre el Reino de Portugal y el resto de los Reinos de España y a la inversa. Lo único que hubo fueron batallas concretas en luchas dinásticas a la muerte de un monarca sin un heredero directo válido. Lo demás literatura.

@@meruendano Punto de vista interessante hermano

@@martinab3774 Gracias. Es interesante en cuanto a que lo interesante son los hechos históricos reales, no los relatos. La batalla de Aljubarrota se produce en el contexto de lo que en Portugal llaman Guerras Fernandinas, por el Rey portugués Fernando I, que optaba al trono de Castilla por parentesco en una ausencia de heredero directo. Guerras que duran más de una década y para complicar la situación con una guerra civil castellana entre dos hermanos que luchan por el Reino y que al morir el Rey portugués sin heredero directo se invierte la situación por los mismos motivos. Lo que ocurre es que una parte de la mentalidad anglo, no le cabe en la cabeza que dos paises que comparten solar no se invadan uno al otro o se sojuzguen, cómo en su historia ocurrió en las Islas Británicas. incluso lo intentaron con Francia y casi lo consiguen con la Guerra de los Cien Años, que mira tu por dónde también es parte del contexto de ese siglo XIV muy complicado de complicaciones.

​@@meruendano a história é muito clara, cerca de 7000 portugueses com desejo de manter a independência portuguesa derrotaram 30 000 castelhanos em Aljubarrota. Para além disto, os portugueses ganharam as batalhas dos Atoleiros (1400 portugueses vs 5000 castelhanos) e de Valverde (11 000 portugueses vs 39 000 castelhanos), ambas durantes a crise de descendência do final do século 14. Não ensinam isto nas escolas espanholas com certeza.

Though he allegedly stole lots of Portuguese artwork- and got the idea for his arc de triomphe from the one already underway in Lisbon.

Portuguese American here, right on bro

See, the boys were getting along.

Just ignoring the rest of the world like they're the only 2 lol

Yeah, but we managed to outsmart the Spanish and that gave us Brazil! (Also, not our fault it's like that nowadays, heh.)

@@LarryTheTugaGamer1511 outsmart? how do reach that conclusion?

@@sergiom9958 The Spanish proposed the Tordesilhas treaty with a set of coordinates that implied that the entirety of South America would belong to the Spanish, and the Portuguese basically went "Nah, how 'bout these coordinates?" The coordinates the Portuguese proposed implied the Portuguese would get Brazil and the Spanish would get the rest of South America (these coordinates were the ones that were accepted). Maybe outsmart wasn't the best choice of words, but the Portuguese definitely bargained well.

Cristóvão was married to the daughter of the *madeira archipelago governor

They will do the same to the Portuguese explorer Fernão de Magalhães (aka Ferdinand Magellan) which led to the first circumnavigation of the world and of most consequence to my country, the conquest of the Philippine Islands. In fact, according to the Treaty of Tordesillas, the Philippines lay in the Portuguese sphere of influence. I wonder what might have been if the Portuguese had colonized my country instead of the Spanish.

​@@Arbelot Would have they though? I mean, Portugal was already pretty much stretched thin with Brasil as a colony since Portugal didn't have that big of a population compared to Spain. They would have maybe built a port there to trade but not more than that

@@danymend5797 But it's still a possibility. If I could remember, Portugal tried to dispute the Spanish occupation of the Philippines since the latter was in the Portuguese-designated area according to the Tordesillas and Zaragoza treaties. In the end, the Portuguese would give up their rights on the Philippine Islands, coupled with the fact that the King of Spain also became the King of Portugal.

Everyone knew about the americas. The whole looking for a way to India is BS. They were looking for the old world. All the older civilizations had stories of coming from the americas.

Change dealer

they always ramble about conquering Portugal and do it but always fail, all bark and no bite

Tú mientes. EEUU quería invadir Portugal por temor al régimen comunista portugués y pidió ayuda a Franco para hacerlo a través de España. Franco convenció al presidente de los EEUU para que no lo hiciera. Hay documentos diplomáticos que lo prueban.

Ordinary me tends to mix up the names, but that's pretty gross that this video didn't get it right!!!

Maybe their mind, like mine, gets confused by the 'Horn of Africa' thing....

Home of the Templars

To Ronaldo fans maybe 😂

Portugal got plot armor

@@badtuber1654 yes crusaders❤️❤️

Seems a bit like the Dublin, Ireland

Also Agra in India. Taiwan was discovered by Portueguese and named it Formosa

Are you a bot?

Portugal is much older than Spain and began its expansion outside the peninsula much earlier, thus spreading its identity and language beyond the reach of Spain, which even today has separatist regions. Spain would never be able to hold this independent nation even under roman rule it was separated from the region of Hispania

@@antoniomultigames4968 That is not correct. The roman region of "Hispania" was all the Iberian peninsula as a whole. It was divided in roman provinces, and, in fact, you can see it in the map they show us in the video. "Lusitania" was a province, "Gallaecia" was another province, "Bética" was another one, and so on... There was no España, and no Portugal in that time.

@@migteleco he is not totally wrong, Portugal did start colonizing before Spain :D

This is a joke in first time Spain yes conquered Portugal ; Prior de Crato opossed to Spanish King Phillip ll and Spain invaded Portugal with Spanish Tercios at the end Prior de Crato with French-Portughese Army defeat in naval battle of Isla Terceira in Azores and Spain exhaust for Reconquesta lol in time of Conquest of Granada 1.492 Spain start fight agaisnt France etc in Italian wars and win Spain and Discovery and conquer América etc..

All of his videos are vauge. Im tired of seeing comments complaining about his vaugness. He gives quick information for or knowledge, hence the name of the channel. If you want more information on the subject search it up.

Its true but Spain ruled Portugal 60 years 1.580-1.640 with Viceroys dear friend

This video is fairly right albeit the huge geographical error referring to Vasco da Gama's passage by Cape Horn. Cape Horn is located in Chile and must not be confused with Cape of Good Hope which is located in South Africa.

​@@Benito-lr8mzSpain didnt rule Portugal, ir was called Ibérian union not Spain, just like United Kingdom today u cant say the scots are English

But that battle was between Castile (not Spain) and Portugal, and, as was usual at the time, it was for dynastic reasons, as there were many in those centuries because all the kingdoms that emerged from the Reconquista wanted to lead the reunification of Spain, basically.

England was nothing back then. A storm save English asses. and after that in a second invasion Spain land in England and english army just admire marching spaniards to London but retreat by a Spanish king order to back to Spain.

It's the real reason Portugal was safe from Spanish advances. If Portugal didn't have England as an ally, it's very probable Portugal would have become a province at one time or another. If not Spain directly, then certainly Napoleon's France would have conquered Portugal soon after annexing Spain.

There should be an upgraded Treaty of Windsor- a trade block including both former empires would be a world beater.

@creepingdread88 You’re forgetting that the only reason why Portugal was attacked by both France & Spain was because they refused to follow Napoleon’s demand to join against England. Portugal has whooped Castille & Spains buns many times, and considering Spain has a bigger country it shows whom really had that better quality over quantity.

Amigo em 1385 o nome de Espanha não existia,o nome de Portugal sim já existia.O nome de espanha nasceu no século XIX em 1876

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aye the plague of marxist thought ruined many great empires and still is

Hi, I'm from Spain. We are in deep shit and we think Portugal is doing well.

@@anderlopez6699 Grass is always greener on the other side

@@anderlopez6699 I'm in the USA...we be in deep schiff too....too much Marxism...for now. MAGA.

I always said that our decline (Portugal) started when we lost King Sebastian. Losing him made us fall under the Iberian Union where for 60 years we floundered and lost everything to Castille as they picked us apart slowly bit by bit and sucked us dry for everything we were worth; until we had no more to be drained of and finally freed ourselves. However by that point the damage was already done and irreversible. Portugal was never the same after that and became known as one of Europe's poor backwater kingdoms in the 1700s and 1800s, a shadow of what they once were in their glory days. The Napoleonic wars only dragged us down further in to the mud, making an already terrible situation even worse. The 1900s only brought more struggle with the failed first republic and WW1. We had a bit of a resurgence with Salazar keeping us neutral in WW2, which helped Portugal to profit greatly from the war from both sides. However, we never did full truly recover and to this day believe we aren't in a better position as a nation due to having lost Sebastian all those centuries ago. I would love to see an alternate timeline where we never lost Sebastian. I don't know what that Portugal would look like today, but I would love to see how different it would be.

Mine too. My grandmother was first generation

you should visit portugal some day...

@@extremebrah Nah, terrible country! They ONLY want your money.

*Spanish Habsburgs were distinct from and more powerful than their Austrian counterparts.

I would say they succeeded in those 60 years at ruining Portugal. The Portugal that came out of the Iberian Union was not the same Portugal that went in to it. Portugal was never the same after those 60 years and was never able to fully recover from it. The decline in power and status the country suffered in the 1800s onwards I personally believe came as a result of those 60 years. Losing King Sebastian was the worst thing that ever happened to us. Alas...

From the Arabic سَبْتَة (sabta).

No, desde la palabra "celta". Nada de árabe.

@@meruendano, Ceuta se remonta a los romanos y se refiere a las siete montañas de la región (en latín: Septem Fratres; "siete hermanos"). Septem se fue deformando sucesivamente en Sept, Cepta y Seuta. Los árabes lo pronuncian Sabta. Es una ciudad árabe en el norte de África, allí no hay nada "celta".

@@generalmortars7557 Si es cómo dices y no lo niego, entonces viene del latín, no del árabe.

@@generalmortars7557 No, from the Latin Septem.

Hence the natives of the Americas often being referred to as "Indians" as he thought he was in India when he arrived to the Americas.

It's not overlooked because it's not true. Portugal was never ruled by a foreign house, except for the 60 years it was under Spanish domain (and even so, as explained, Philip of Spain had a Portuguese mother and his main language was Portuguese). Our 1st king, Afonso Henriques, had a Burgundian father and Leonese mother, even if he and his descendents often married French, Spanish and HRE princesses, the house remained theirs, as it was the norm. The 1st dynasty are Afonso's direct descendents, the 2nd also, it's just that the first of them was an illegitimate son of the previous king. The 3rd is the Spanish one, the 4th is the house of Bragança, the direct descendents of D. Nuno Álvares Pereira, the hero of Aljubarrota. Were they all related to the other European ruling houses? Of course they were, but just because I have cousins it doesn't mean they have in any way a saying over how I rule my house!

@@XofHope It’s true. House of Burgundy was tied to HRE and of German ancestry and the house of Braganza evolved into the house of Saxe Coburg and Gotha. And throughout Portugals‘ history their kings married German royals, especially Austrians - connecting them various HRE houses. Only because you didn’t know about any of this because you’re seemingly not as educated on Portugals’ history doesn’t mean it’s not true.

@@Leontemplar-yt6ff Now take a look at the house of Burgundy and their connections, the Portugueses’ constant marriages to German (especially Austrian) HRE royals,and the house of Braganza basically developing into the House Saxe of Coburg and Gotha (only not on paper - except for one King). You’ve even forgotten to name that house, by the way.

Man, what the actual fuck are you smoking? Send some to me I want to experiment!

@@Ultima-Signa I'm very aware of my country's History, that's why I'm not easily swayed by your rhetoric. You're trying to claim something to which you're not entitled! As you should be aware if you like History, these houses are pretty much defined by male lineage... except when they're not. No, Afonso Henriques' dynasty is not Burgundian. His father was Burgundian, but married into the house of Leon and not the other way around. His wife was the true heir to the county of Portugal and it was her who passed it on to their son. When Afonso became kind instead of count, he created his own separate house. Not Burgundian and not Leonese! It's known as the Afonsine dynasty, after him. Whatever ties it had with those other houses, this was not a branch, it was its own independent house. As for the Braganças, in Portugal they didn't evolve into anything. They remained the house of Bragança until the last one of them, no matter how many HRE princesses married into that house. Just because Fernando II was a man, it still didn't become his house! He married, once again, into a Portuguese house, not the other way around. He was just king consort, it wasn't his house, it was D. Maria's house and she was a Bragança, no matter how much foreign blood she had.

You are wrong. Portugal comes from the latin "Portum Calem", later "Portucale" and finally "Portugal".

@@lurdesfaro923 Hmm, that part of Europe was inhabited by the Celts (Gauls) since the Neolithic. Could latin's calem be related to gaul/gal?

@@cathjj840 I don't think that's correct. The Celts came westward and displaced or assimilated the neolithic people of western Europe, in the same way as those neolithic farmers had displaced even earlier inhabitants, and so it goes back into the times of Homo neanderthalensis. Plus ça change...

That's right. By then the educated knew the world is round, and the dispute was over its circumference. Columbus sold the Spanish on a much smaller circumference.

Es un mito que los antiguos creyeran que la Tierra era plana, cuándo ya había demostrado su esfericidad Eratóstenes en el siglo III a.C. y calculado su radio entre otras medidas. De hecho a Colón se le discutía su calculo, pero esa no fue la razón por la que la Corte portuguesa rechazó su propuesta, lo hizo por inviable. Échate tú a mar abierto a lo desconocido... También le rechazaron la propuesta los Reyes Católicos, aunque al final logró convemcer a la Reina Isabel.

@@GeraldM_inNC +1 although "by then" undersells it a bit. All the educated world had known about a round world from earliest times, and Eratosthenes had come up with a pretty good value of the circumference of a globe earth in (it is said) 240 *BC*

@@jonathanrichards593 Although the Greeks nailed the circumference using geometry, the Medieval Catholic Church taught that the world is flat. The average person wasn't privy to the facts.

Yup. It's a superficial commentary

That's "DA GAMA," not "de Gama." Obrigada! 😊

It's highly unlikely Latin had disappeared from Iberia, since it had become indeed the lingua franca and the Romans never exactly left, they just merged into the general population. Although our genetic background is still pretty much that of our pre-Roman ancestors, there was of course a later addition of other genetic material coming from the Romans, Visigoths, Suebi, Alans, Vandals, later Moors, etc. Although not particularly common, I happen to be one of those who can trace my matrilinear lineage back to the Suebi.

honestly if you want to go by genetic markers, the Portuguese population would cover a good bit of everything, probably missing north america and oceania, we really are a complete mess on that front

@@tiagobelo4965 Not really and we're not more diverse than other ethnic groups. Our genetic matrix is well known and very clear, it's been the same for thousands of years, well before the Romans got here. It's Iberian, a common designation for all the peoples who inhabited the Peninsula before recorded history, and Celtic, themselves a rather diverse group. Everything that came later is just a bit of added flavor, it adds interest but is not the base. Think of it like a stew, the Iberians and Celts are the meat and potatoes, everything that came later are like the peas, carrots and spices. They make the whole thing tastier, but without the base you have no stew.

@XofHope Reality is Iberian was a term used by Greeks for some tribes only residing on the east coast of Spain, there was many other tribes that people seem to conflate with Iberian.

@@Leontemplar-yt6ff It has become a designation for all the peoples of the Iberian Peninsula, as there's no other common designation. It's a sort of back and forth thing, first it was what the Greeks called those who lived around the Ebro, then it extended to name the whole geographical area the Iberian Peninsula, then because it was the Iberian Peninsula it extended to mean all those who live(d) there.

Trying to take the crown is not the same as taking the country though. The power of monarchs is highly overrated and has never, ever been absolute, and most of the time it was significantly less than what it was during so-called absolutist monarchies.

​@@DrVictorVasconcelosEs que no hubo intentos por ninguna de las dos partes de tomar el país. Lo que hubo fue luchas dinásticas.

Yes, we know. Several times, and some of them by royal marriages. And we say it often. But foreign people from abroad don’t understand the context.

@@meruendanoexatamente.

Yeah... always with the help of someone else better at organization and tactics. First the crusaders helping with the Reconquista (no one teaches us in school that crusaders helped take Lisbon) and later with the English always by our side. The entire Napoleonic campaign was only successful because English officers came to train and lead the Portuguese army which was a total disgrace at the time. Portuguese people like to talk a lot about what they can do but always need someone to point the way.

goes both ways! stay strong friend!

as long as you leave us alone... oh wait! you guys have better salaries, ok you can take it now! /s

Sorry to let you down most Portuguese feel closest to the English. 🇬🇧🇵🇹♥️

@@brunocarreiro7796 O que é ridículo. Temos mais afinidades genéticas e culturais com os espanhóis que com os ingleses, que apenas nos auxiliaram na autonomia por motivos puramente estratégicos, já que não lhes convinha que toda a Península Ibérica (e com isso o estreito de Gibraltar e o precioso acesso ao Mediterrâneo) pertencesse ao inimigo.

@@TruthMatters9674 "que apenas auxiliaram na autonomia" que comentário mais ignorante. Desde 1143 que os Portugueses e Ingleses são aliados com uma ou outra desavença o que e natural mas que teve usufruto a para os dois lados. Os portugueses ajudaram os ingleses a proteger a sua costa dos franceses devido ao poderio naval. Foi sempre um relação de conveniência e assim e que tem de ser

What about his iron letter from portugese king, that right now resides in Madrid museum? He was portugese, colombus was not his real name. He was plrtugese secret agent assigned to spanish court

@@henrynavigator1 read about this also. Upon his return from his Voyage to America, his first stop was Portugal and met with King John....hmmm. Some say he was a Spy for Portugal.

Imagine where they got that knowledge from considering they were far ahead of the rest of Europe and who they kicked out of cordoba

Didn't USA and the former USSR practically do the same in 1945? The difference being, they called it "liberation". At least the Iberians were more honest.

@issamkholoud2009 clearly wasn’t the caliphate that got severely defeated and crumbled into the dust bin of history to it’s technological superior foes, the moment France joined the war was the end for the caliph that only moved in to fill the vacuum of a fallen Roman Empire.

Portuguese and Spanish have the same DNA. So there's no way it will say Portuguese or Spanish, it only says iberian

It was the 1st, and the 1st to have a world empire

Was looking for this, I personally did not know the dates, but the ones shown do not add up (subtract?) to 80 years, haha.

@@JacktheDoctor tbf its easily possible the war did not last a literal 80 yrs considering the 100 yr war was over a century (i mean to say the naming choices were generally weird)

I posted that too. Amazing they put this out with no one catching it.

lol. Thanks. I was puzzled when they said that too.

This whole video is a joke, can´t take it seriously

Cape "horn" does not exist. Is Cape Hornos or de Hornos. If you keep following the anglos and not respect history, and decide to change it to your liking you're condemned to suffer the same. Long live Old Mexico before 1848 with its border in the Mississippi river. The time is coming to start discussing those borders.

Que massa! Muito amor para vcs tbm ❤

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Caping so hard for your colonizer is sad. They'll never accept you the way you want them to

@@Cbreezy510 Um what? Are you ok? Who hurt you? Go sow hate and discord somewhere else.

😅😅😅I as a Portuguese guy laugh,and say you are right hermano

note: the Iberian Union was closer to something like the UK Portugal was, according to the original concept of the Union, it's own country, it never became a part of Spain. in fact what broke the Union off was the Spanish king completely ignoring Portugal's sovereignty by increasing taxes without the permission of the "cortes"

what are you smoking?

By definition. It was never conquered. Not sure if you are mistaken the word conquered for something else

We really did use gravity against the french quite a bit didn't we? between bridges and dug up fields the poor guys couldn't catch a break!

Por causa de Napoleão com as suas tropa aliados a Castela nos roubaram a nossa Olivênça

The inquisition didn’t do any Justice to our people either miguelito

Tu odias o no odias a mi pais?

@@ObtuseGoose2 Just for the Spanish that were under Muslim rule in the Iberian peninsula. And who knows,maybe Arabic instead of Spanish,would be my first tongue,and Islam ☪️ instead of Christianity ✝️ would have been the religion I would have been born into lol.

Is not muslim killer, but "moor slayer", moors are not necessarily muslim.

@@alfrreddhispanics always leave out the t in “its”, whats up with that

It used to be called the Cape of Torment, before it was effectively sailed around and was renamed Good Hope!

@@XofHope Yea that´s facts but he said "Cape Horn" in the Video which is in South America.

@@P4Tri0t420 Oh! I was probably too distracted, didn't catch that! Thanks!

No... our alliance was only signed in the late 14th century, under D. João I who married a Lancaster.

Technically the Treaty of Windsor sealed the alliance - first started in 1294 and was updated further. Which treaty is the 1169 ?

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And that ended up ruining him.

It's funny how Hitler followed Napoleon's mistake of leaving a front opened in the west (Napoleon didn't conquer Portugal and Spain and Hitler didn't conquer UK) and both decided to attack Russia in the east and thus both bring about a war on 2 fronts

And failled completly...

and ended up trying to conquer Spain too, which led to the Spanish allying with the Portuguese and English to defeat napoleon. Big Mistake

Earned any of these dividends? Did the British not wage war after war to protect their allies identity? The only people that earned “dividends” would be the British, unfortunately those that earned it are dead and alls we have to honour them by is the agreement itself.

Ok.

Why don't you become a channel supporter if you want to take away his revenue?

@neon9999 -- Could you perhaps take a moment to say WHY? So, Why are BetterHelp NOT good, for example?

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@@cadensilver3015 Why is***

***the portuguese reconqista was complete in 1200s and the aliance with england was in the next century***

@@adelinomorte7421 I know, the help from England during the reconquista predated the now long standing mutual defense treaty.

LIEUTENANT SHARPE!!!

Before 1808 Napoleon was on a winning streak in the battlefield so I don’t blame Godoy for being optimistic

They knocked 3 times at the door and got rejected 3 times 😆

Whatever. It’s not contained at any book written by English or Americans so they decided it’s not true hahaha

​@Yo.Te.Dire. There was interchange of people and foodstuffs between the viceroyalty of New Spain (Mexico) and Sicily while both were under Spanish rule. Why tomato sauces like marinara were more common in southern Italy than northern Italy. Interestingly corn for polenta became more common in northern Italy, but Spain also ruled some duchies/kingdoms in the north as well. That's how tomatoes, corn, and even cactus reached Italy. When the King of Spain expelled the Jesuits from New Spain and other viceroyalties in the Americas and territories in Europe, they were relocated to Italy (even though by then, most Jesuits from New Spain had been born in what is today Mexico to criollo families). Likewise New Spain had a viceroy from Sicily at one point.