Why we haven't found aliens (pt 1) 

Arthur Clarke didn’t say that

@@Mailman910 Yes he did.

Aliens 👽 are definitely among us!, have you seen Dennis Rodman?

I wasn't aware this was Arthur C Clark. Thought it was Carl Sagan

​@Curious Lil Puppy One of the most influential Sci-fi writers of the last century.

Which is hilarious, because that's what they'd see right now due to light having a speed.

I’ve never thought about that, I now adopt this theory as fact

not to mention humans are stupid crazy and dangerous creatures so why would any civilised alien wanna let themselves be known to men let alone be friends??? i cant think of a single reason...

Now we got tiny dinosaurs flying everywhere

That’s probably why we can’t find them either let alone them find us

Yes! I think the person who first uttered the saying, "common sense isn't that common!" was thinking just that...

i mean if the aliens were smart enough to actually observe us, they would understand the concept of light years and adjust their assumptions accordingly. like "oh if we're seeing them with coal now, and we are X light years away, then right now they must be at this stage of civilization."

Can you imagine if earth was like the universes last uncontacted tribe. Everyone else has advanced technologies and they’re just like ahh don’t bother those primitive beings 😅

You think that burning coal would be the turn off ? Not all the wars and other disagreements ? Why would they come here to only be another point of difference amongst the tribes and religions.

@@asatsuki9250true

😅 dude you are behind the science..aliens are visiting earth in droves.

@@paulharrisonadventuregearm5457Let me humbly give you some advice; for the love of all that is holy and supernatural, stop defining your entire personality around the fact that you believe that “aliens” (or whatever term you prefer) have or have been or are currently visiting us, mere apes, here on our little dirt ball. It’s fascinating and certainly not implausible to think and honestly believe that, but you have absolutely no definitive, empirical evidence for that to be the case, so you talking and iterating your point as if it’s “science” and that it has long been proven is not helping your nor the arguments case; rather it’s making people turn against and disbelieve some of the oddities that has happened, that may actually be of some value to the argument that “aliens” exist and are visiting. Please get a better grasp of what serious science actually is. Thank you and keep your curiosity going! 😊

God only made life on Earth

​@@quantom1827 Can you prove it?

​@@quantom1827 Source: "trust me bro"

@@qsuehi you do realise life cant come from non life? And that God is the only reasonable answer to why we exist and why the universe exists

@@quantom1827 Prove it

Lmao love calvin and Hobbes 😍✍️💯

thats another thing that keeps me up at night: what if telling the universe we exist is a big no-no and attracts something other alien civilizations are hiding from 💀💀💀 edit: Today i learned this is called the Dark Forest hypothesis

And that proves we are dumb asses for relaying our adresses😅

@@PsycheTrance65the amount of work to get to earth is not worth it to eradicate humanity

@@Chadow-ranger not if the malicious aliens' purpose is literally to find planets to exploit. since everyone else is hiding, itll even be more attractive to go for the dumbasses broadcasting their location to the entire universe

Definitely, we are at a point where we can overcome anything the natural world throws at us, the question is, "can we collectively decide to work together?"

Absolutely right. And we are letting the rich kill us all.

@@captain_context9991and if we can’t properly upkeep our own planet, then we don’t deserve to go to more than one. Plain as that.

It’s not a philosophical filter it’s a biological one

I think thats the most agreed upon version of the great filter

They came in 2020, saw who the president was, and his response to the pandemic and said Nah...

@@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394 Why do people always have to bring politics to things?

@@PhasmoPH0BlA What politics? I just brought an example of something that is a lot dumber than what the op did.

​@@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394yep i can imagine the scene trump meeting the aliens

@@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394 Saw who the president was? You do realize the US is not the only country in the world right. So Joe Biden is not the leader of the world.

This is the most likely truth, most "advanced" civilizations like ours can't traverse the monster that is cosmic space. But the counter is that a civilization more advanced than us should theoretically be able to bypass that limitation at some point through things like wormholes or such, so maybe they either don't exist or they don't want to or care to contact us.

doesnt work due to a simple yet fun reason , time very very very long , about 2 billion years big , consideringwe've managed to land a person onto a stellar body within 20 years of discovering the atom's structure . A species similar to ours would have invented near light speed travel by now

Still Big Very Big

Species have a finite lifespan.

Not that big ... aliens are already visiting

Our real problem that scientists are aware of...is sensing and detecting with time dilation....if we detect a "livable" planet a million light years away...but dont detect any advance life forms...thats because we are looking into a million years of the existence...so we literally can never see them in real time

I’m sore it has a lot to do with our incompetent politicians running this country & the industrial military complex who will use them to wage war than trying to communicate & are to farm smart to want to interact with such immature humans as a race of people led by those who only want to benefit their own pockets or do you believe everything the government tell you ?

I heard one theory that we are just early. Because it is almost impossible for life to develop before now. The reason was that the universe was too hostile and close together. Planets and stars were crashing, and black holes are sucking stuff up. This made it hard for life to have enough time to develop. Some life might have, but they probably destroyed.

After some thought, I have an analogy. Think of life as a batch of cookies. And we are in the first batch. In fact, we may be the first or one of the first cookies to finish baking (or get where we are). we can take this analogy further. As the cookies spend more time in the oven, it expands (or the civilization takes new land in space or something). And sometimes, it joins with another cookie (contacts with another civilization). However, this leads to another theory. The one mentioned in the video called the Great Filter. Even if we don't know what the filter is for us, we do know what it is for cookies. It's putting less sugar and more chocolate chips. This leads to my theory. It is that the human body is simply not meant for interstellar travel. So we were given more chocolate that sugar.

You're right and wrong. Think of it like this we have tribes that live like our stone age ancestors today right living on the same planet. While we are in the 21st century with nukes, internet and space rockets. Think of us like the stone age people that is how aliens view us. They see us they know of us they don't deal with us. Why cause we are just basic stone age people but they do study us why simple we are fascinating. But from a far.

Yea that checks out, we aint making it bois settle in cause this is it

humans are not the parasite thats eco facist rethoric, capitalism is the problem

​@@ameisweirdxThere's still time to revert the affects. Theoretically.

Thats a possibility Though there are 2 other factors if we're using the "humans are parasites/virus" idea, and that makes it options: 1:coexist nondestructively with host planet 2:completely take over/artificize and control host planet 3:spread to other planets before we can destroy our own So with your thing, there would be 3 different strategies used to survive the great filter.

I really hate the idea that humans are parasites. Regardless of if you believe humanity to be going in the right direction or not, calling the human race parasites is only going to make things worse

Yeah I forget what the theory is called (maybe the Big Bounce theory), but it says that "THE" Big Bang was simply "a" Big Bang. The universe continuously expands until a certain point, then it collapses under it's own infinite gravity, forms an infinitely massive black hole, opens into a white hole, then restarts the entire process with a new big bang. Though I do think this theory has been denounced by some new research.

As spirits I believe we were all around for the Big Bang... & I don't believe it was the 1st one we were around for (or even the biggest)... Oh look...another Big Bang... whose birthday are we celebrating this time?

Sterilized? What does that mean?

@@voightkampffchamp void of life

Two words in response: grabby aliens. If intelligent life arose and fell often, some of that intelligent life would be grabby and trying to capture all the resources in their light cone. We'd see that expansion happening in distant galaxies. And being grabby expansionists, their civilization would fracture but not fall such that the intelligent civilization collapsed in its entirety. Similar to the Dyson paradox - where are all the galaxies where all the stars were converted into Dyson spheres by K3 civilizations? Since astronomy is well explained by natural phenomena, not intelligent agents, we can conclude that humanity is early.

I agree, CantankerousDave. Time and distance, and most people can't comprehend how tremendouslywidespread even just the stars in our own galaxy are. There may be thousands of "local" planets with life as intelligent or moreso than us, but unless they've approached lightspeed travel or created wormholes, we won't know about them.

I was going to say same

So, basically, we probably won’t be able to ever figure out or get in contact with other planets that have some form of life on them, like, ever? This world will perish without ever finding different forms of life out there? I kind of hate that.

​@@scottclowe The output of the Sun converted to heat can melt the Earth in a few hours. Maybe there is more energy in a galaxy than things you could do with it, making it unprofitable or downright pointless to build dyson spheres wherever you go. Also an advanced civilization with all their needs satisfied might not find meaning in unbounded expansion.

I wonder if we are first. We're relatively early compared to how old the universe will be. We could have ended up once the universe was trillions of years old, but we didn't. We ended up here, with our own planet already being a third the age of the entire universe.

We also just suck at detecting aliens because the only way to prove something is aliens is by proving it can not be anything else which is almost if not full impossible with how little we can see and sense that far out.

Three possibilities, I think I know which one it is. 👽 .

tho “we’re rare” and “we’re first” are kinda the same ultimately-because either means getting to our stage of life is absurdly hard (or at least has been, it may or may not be getting easier), so there’s no others that have gotten to the communicating stage within the “light cone” of places we can currently observe. ie whether we’re *actually* first or not, we’re close enough it’s a moot point.

And “we’re fucked” could mean either “we’re likely all gonna die before we see anyone else b/c the Great Filter’s still ahead” or “the aliens are out there, but there’s a reason nobody else was dumb enough to talk to us”. which I’d say are pretty different solutions to the Fermi Paradox, but DO both mean we’re fucked.

Yeah

we have passed some of the big ones : 1 - Having ressources needed for a industrial era - imagine if the human developped during the creatacean era. No petrol. 2 - Not destroyed ourselves with the discovery of the nuclear bomb. We are not totally out of this one, but clearly better than it was. The next big one is the IA... Cause this can blow out of proportion really really quick... Boston dynamics already has robots having better moving capacities than human on batteries... Combine that with a top IA, and you have something already better than 30% of humanity... IA is a huge filter to pass.

@@a.t.o.mworkshop6409 what's IA ?

Absolutely. We had one shot at using fossil fuels to develop beyond where we are now and we already blew it by turning most of the fossil energy into excess population while neglecting renewable and sustainable development and equality/justice. As a result we are already well into the early states of civilization collapse. This will probably not drive us to extinction but it WILL leave a far smaller human population living at a far lower level of technology -- more or less permanently, like for millions of years to come. The cheap and easily accessible fuels that would have gotten us through this if we had had more sense, or had developed along lines more social and less individualistic and greedy/short-sighted, is already spent and there's no replacement. The attempt to transition to sustainable energy sources is laudable and will feel better than simply giving up, but it's already doomed by resource shortage relative to population.

Why does this seem creepier?! 😱

I don't think they'd look very far from us

The real ones know that aliens look like crabs

You forgot one thing what of alien are non intelligent being and we discovered them, so that means we discover alien animals

I'm pretty sure we can imagine that, because a lot of people have. Aliens that look human are extremely common in science fiction. Consider Superman, or other alien races from DC comics like the Rannians or the Thanagarians. Or the Kree in Marvel comics. A lot of the aliens in _Star Trek_ look like human beings with forehead ridges or pointed ears. Back in the original series, Klingons looked human enough that a Klingon could pass as human in "The Trouble with Tribbles" (that was before the Klingons got forehead ridges).

Lol

To them we are like those pacific tribes or Amazonian tribes that we avoid. Those ufo sightings were the craY explorers that got shot down by arrows, however in this case an arrow was an F-16

⁠@@billykaelin6358​​⁠​​⁠ that is crazy racist not to mention a terrible comparison . Why do you think those tribes don’t like us?

@@geraldine8523 I’m from Peru. I’ve been to the Amazon. I respect the tribes but I also avoid them because I can’t know their intentions and they might retaliate.

​@@geraldine8523that comment wasn't racist at all. the commentor didn't even mention the fact that those tribes don't like us, just that we avoid them. no shit. do you think we should contact every human society instead of just leaving some of them be in their own privacy? and they also brought up an example about how an airplane got shot with arrows because it was flying a little low (as in they were visibly seen, not close to the ground) near an indigenous settlement. race's got nothing to do with any of this. why'd you bring it into it?

Exactly, they live in the oceans and underground in mountain ranges

​@@LieMacevidence? Yeah

i hope you’re joking

They are running our government

We have one going to be running for president of united state and she communicate with her fellow aliens 👽 with her laugh!

I don't think some humans will be happy if they can't explore the stars

There's no such thing as "happiness". You either learn to be content, or just keep chasing "happiness".

​@@NostalgiaforInfinity Contentedness... *is* happiness

@@NostalgiaforInfinity you must have an awful life, I hope you find your happiness one day.

​@NostalgiaforInfinity read some Camus, bro. the pursuit of happiness is where happiness should lie. you MUST imagine sisyphus happy!

You like it?!? The dark forest theory is the stuff of nightmares. I recommend the Three Body Problem book series. Really puts the terror into perspective.

@@cyber_jam But then again: Forrests seem dangerous and scarry at night. But they really arent. That would be a good thing on a galactic scale, I guess?... hopefully?

@@Gentleman...Driverwhat forest do you frequent that isn’t dangerous at night? There’s a reason we dwell in artificial caves.

@@SonOfaSlth European forrests... last time I was in one I havent seen a Saber-toothed Cat or a Mamooth. Most predators we have dont go near camp fires at night. And even if they do, we humans can protect ourselves quite well. Even with spears or bows or knives.

​@@Gentleman...Driver european forests don't represent all forests tho lol forests ARE dangerous and scary at night, even if some of them somehow aren't

Ummm, isn't that actually the first filter, habitable planet?

​@@twinktoiletsbestfriendsmomscanThey are filters no matter the time. But the final filter is probably the advanced species

@cevatkokbudak6414 good point!

Nuclear war, resource and climate problems, disease. All more dangerous

We are extremely intelligent. We just have a long way to evolve still before we are civilized enough to be accepted into the GALACTIC FEDERATION 💫

That's a great quote.

Love it! EXCEPT THEY HAVE CONTACTED US! MORE THAN YOU COULD IMAGINE.

@@auramix3507 ?

@@Donnie_is_cool it's ALL in the Creation stories of every civilisation on Earth. Countless UFO sightings. Countless contacts. Countless Abductions. Eye Witness accounts. And now Disclosure from Governments around the world plus testimony from countless whistleblowers and government employees. The proof is literally EVERYWHERE

That has got to be the most terrifying message we could ever receive from space. Apart from maybe a simple “Goodbye”

@tamnker8465 there are two theories on why there has been no contact. 1) we haven't shouted loud enough for other groups to hear us. 2) there is a megacluster sized colonialist civilization that is eradicating all possible contacts and will get us if they have the chance. I just hope we're the Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy type of system where we get destroyed because of a new super highway, nothing malicious and they did give us notice prior to the planetary destruction.

That kind of happens in "The three body problem" by Cixin liu, that was the book that hypothesized Dark forest theory, well.. the second book in the triology is named "The dark forest" too.

Probally,dr stone theory

what story is this btw

My personal “fun” theory is that thanks to grabby aliens, they’re already everywhere, but we just haven’t seen them because they’ve designated our planet as a sort of nature preserve so their scientists can naturally study the cultural and technological evolution of a species. Kind of a crackpot theory, I know, but it’s much less terrifying than the alternatives

​@@STARBIRD3000thats kinda comforting in a way if it's true cuz it means the aliens dont want to attack us and just observe us instead

​@@STARBIRD3000started theory is what I always call it.

*driving through space with the windows down* *gets to earth* roll 'em up

That's a pretty random guess based on absolutely nothing but your limited experience. For all we know, we could be the most peaceful form of intelligent life. You truly can't say that we're the ghetto without even having any other reference point to compare us with. Even then, you would need a lot more than just one other reference point. Besides, combat is as necessary for survival as eating and breathing. God, aka the Universe, wouldn't have created us in such a way if it weren't vital.

Or we are basically reality TV to them lol

you know what you are right, and i can't blame them lol.

"They communicate by flapping meat at each other?" -one of the greatest Fermi Paradox stories ever.

I mean if I were them then I would just hack our phones microphones and cameras and just watch how fing stupid we can be

Lol or catch chip and release back into the wild

Lol that isn't a barrier

There are near 8 thousand million of us. Killing each other in the relatively small numbers that even WW2 did isn't an issue. Of course we didn't have WoMD until the very end of that war though.

Yep same biology, different kidology

yeah shit we're never becoming an advanced civilization

Right! Once we as humans stop basing our thoughts from scarcity, survival, selfishness, and fear. That’s when we will become advanced enough for aliens.

Where is your proof?

Dark forest theory

​@@jcdenton7261and the most likely theory

@@casperl6437or what if we’re one of the first species who have progressed to such a technological level?

@@axolotlo2considering how long the universe has been around for i doubt that we’re one of the first

​@@IDKwhyimhere675the universe is actually young, iirc life came to he here as soon as it was possible

Well, if by “real-time” you mean sending and receiving information faster than light, then that’s impossible. But, there IS actually a plan to be able to map exoplanets in high definition using the gravitational lensing of our own sun. It’s very cool and there isn’t really anything stopping us from doing it technology wise.

That actually sounds pretty valid, and since we don’t really have the tools to actually tell what life looks like, since we have a sample size of 1; Earth.

@@royalrice5191but what’s more idiotic is that people think aliens can see us. the property of light acts the same way for them as they do with us. when we see exoplanets that can be habitable, we see a planet thousands, even millions, years ago. aliens see earth thousands or even millions or even billions years ago. they may see dinosaurs or formation of earth. i don’t think these great filter theory really hold up when we barely begin to search our universe and basically the scale of our universe makes it almost practically impossible to search in short period of time. it will take ages (sun probably would’ve gone supernova by then) before we are able to get good size of observations with our current technology and understanding of the universe

extremely well said!

I disagree. We literally can look as far back as a few hundred thousand years after the Big Bang. We have mapped the entire observable universe. We would have detected signs if there were any. It's not just about listening for radio waves.

Well technically we know more about space than the ocean. Wth is galactic time 💀time works the same everywhere and much more

I've heard that one, but the problem is, we've already shouted. There is a big bubble of radiowaves expanding from earth. Radiosignals and TV signals, that are slowly expanding. We even sent out A capsule with information, specifically to attract attention and to inform aliens of our biology. If we wanted to stay silent, it's too late for that. Also: It's kind of the most pessimistic answer. Are we really going to be scared of the possibility of finding other living species that we won't even dare to call out?

Wouldn't the dark forest hypothesis be a filter in of itself? Another obstacle from which we have to consider whether we expand our horizons or hide in the shadows avoiding potential danger. It could very well be the great filter for all we know. The most obvious answer to the great filter would be time. Surpassing the time it would take to overcome the odds in order to grow. Time is a slow and insidious killer, just like overconfidence both of which will be the downfall of civilizations to come.

Read : Forge of God, and Anvil of Stars by Greg Bear -- it lays out the dark forest thing really well. WHY is it dark and quiet in the forest? Cuz those who call out -- Hey! Is anybody here!? Don't last long. But of course we have been sending out messages and making a lot of noise -- probably just a matter of time.

@@yamato4271you didn’t just make a Darkest Dungeon reference did you

@@caber1487 maaaaaybe

Yeah I would imagine there are advanced civilizations out there, but the universe is so vast that no two alien species can interact with each other

Right, it's probably the case that we'll never be able to transfer matter faster than light, so even if we did finally encounter aliens, they'll probably be so far away that any sort of relationship with them would be virtually impossible. Like, what kind of communication could you even accomplish when the response time is several hundred years or more?

@@QuesoCookiesDamn you’re really smart. Your comment is deep and insightful

@@QuesoCookies With our current rocket technology it would only take 1 million years to completely colonize the milky way, albeit it would most likely be just AI and our genetic material. If we were to introduce nuclear weapons in space for a nuclear propulsion engine (we only know about for 50 years), we could reduce it to 200k years. So, no, the problem of the Fermi Paradox still exists. Why has nobody so far colonized the milky way?

This makes sense to me too. I've also thought that, given the VAST amount of time the universe has been around, that no two advanced civilizations have existed at the same time.

Really? I’d pull up some popcorn and a telescope and enjoy some entertainment

This is what I think too. They're waiting to see if we can evolve past nuclear war phase

Exactly..we humans are the threat because we are barbarians who kill those who disagree with us… some have evolved but the majority haven’t yet

Imagine they find one of those violwnt primates on their ship simply because said violent primate is tired of all the violent primates being so violent. You know... like MOST violent primates. And I'm not making fun of anyone here, we are absolutely still a violent species, I'm just saying - no, _begging_ these aliens to take me with them.

That’s a pretty human centric view. If I see ants would I care about what they are arguing about or fighting for? We are just ants on a damp rock who have barely left their atmosphere.

Look at how strange your friends look ... ?😮

Or completely render your planet uninhabitable.

@@adventurefaps9571 Meh potato potato

We are on the verge of failing that one big time

😂

Have link in my profile playlist that may help disclosure

I like the theory that Earth is a prison for us. Our ancestors were dropped here as imprisonment and just left to fend for ourselves.

Someones been watching south park

@@SquidSquisome aot type situation

“Did they really start another war, come on that was season 12 this show is getting BORING”

some dystopian comedy show for them

Huh? Just ignore all the contact stories why don’t ya

Karl Marx? How ya doing?

@@aetho Fine, except for Stalin who keeps making fanfiction of my work!

@@karlmarx828 ugh.. very rude from him.

@@Journal2Awakening Yes I am going to ignore all of them

Being advanced doesn't mean you'd lose interest in 'lesser' species. After all, we are still very interested in studying and understanding all species less 'advanced' than we are.

@@louisj2256exactly this, just think about how we would also be thrilled to find even a single celled organism. Or even just some basic amino acids.

Why would an alien race spoil their fun and make themselves known when they can just watch the idiocracy play out

We are just a Truman show to them

@@louisj2256 that’s assuming they are similar to us. You’re so close minded

@@ShannonBarber78 But that would be a waste of ressources. Why would someone do that in a galactic measurement? Like, why not kill the violent part in the DNA and make it perfect? If a species has developed interstellar space travel, then they certainly can do manipulate DNA...

Maybe they have a hundred arms and invested the aerosol deodorant before they invented the wheel(Adams-HHGTT Galaxy)😂

​@@Gentleman...Driverr/wooosh

​@@Gentleman...DriverInterstellar space travel and DNA editing are like perfume and window. Not even remotely related to each other.

@@Sujay95 His theory was litterally that aliens took "the bad part of DNA" and placed it on our planet. If you could do that, you could also eliminate the "bad part of DNA". And then you wouldnt have to place it on a habitable world. If you still want to store it somewhere, it would have been better to store it on a dead moon or something. In a shelf. And not experimenting with it lightyears from your home, only to forget about it. I assume a species that can do interstellar space travel would be smarter then this.

Her graphic literally shows multiple filters. And you're right that there might always be more. There have plausibly been enough intelligent species out there, though, that it's not super plausible that several of them haven't gotten past all of ours and several of the next ones, millions of years before us. So, as Fermi said, where are they?

By the same token, we’ll have our answer as soon as doomsday arrives. Every time I turn on the news, I’m more certain it’s nearly here.

Or maybe the universe was inhospitable until 100MYA

Really doesn't matter because it's all nonsense. Life can't will itself into existence or "evolve." Mindless unguided process can't create information far less the information replicator. It's all nonsense. Product of a mind requires a mind, God. If God wanted to create life across the galaxy and universe we'd already see it. Universe was not designed in such a way as we can clearly see. It was clearly fine tuned for just this planet we are on and is hostile everywhere else.

or its most likely that the universe is so vast and life so rare that you won't find anything at present technological level. we have only had technology to detect stuff in space for under a hundred years. Why would we expect to see aliens?

I think its going to be more along the lines of "go F#$& yourselves, and quit making so much noise "

@@poncoolridecomplete with a baby crying in the back 😂😂😂

I respect the reference. Then one angry Chinese lady sends back a message, "Thats the point, these people suck. Humanity is irredeemable. Invade us. Thus the Trisolaran invasion began.

that's scary lol

Shit not the Dark Forrest Theory! 💀

They don't have to hide. We haven't achieved the technology to see them yet. When we develop the technology to view Pluto in real time, we might be close enough to catch them in the act.

They found reddit and twitter threads and said "nah, lets bounce"

@@username172 fr

Honestly, can you blame them? 😂

Effort/reward ratio of humans is pretty piss poor. According to your idea, wouldn't they pick a dinosaur or a whale? The effort to kill and available meat for consumption is much better with the above mentioned or even a cow. Humans would fight back with nuclear weapons and have hardly any meat.

@@bn6128 no it's not an individual species or a single planet. They have some technology or understanding of biology that turns flesh into monsters. The more biomass = bigger monsters. Eventually an entire planet's biomass gets converted into a giant flesh monster. This is how they reproduce. It's not like they arrive and declare war. It starts out as a simple infection, that turns into an epidemic, and then quickly into a pandemic. Imagine what a sperm cell does to an egg, that's dead space.

@@bn6128maybe not for food but maybe we are being “farmed” for inspiration for new ideas of technology and innovation or new forms of art or philosophy. Maybe we are a research project for ideas 🤷🏻

@@bitchcraftwitch351 if they're capable of interstellar travel and seeking inspiration from us for art, philosophy, ideas, etc. It'll be like humans looking to ants for all those..... Sorry, your thoughts just wouldn't stack up.

@@bn6128 I'm not convinced their idea is probable, either. But we have taken inspiration from ants to progress science. Ants are training artificial intelligence, advancing robotics, and revealing new adaptive materials. Even human philosophy has experienced immense growth as we've reflected on the lives of less complex life. We have always looked to animals and how they live to inspire how we should live. It's not absurd to think a civilization with the resources and curiosity to develop and maintain an "interstellar highway" would expend some of their resources to experiment on other planets. Again, I don't believe that's likely, but I wouldn't write off someone who'd consider it.

Just one question. Why do you believe that aliens would be superior to us? What if they're not as advance as us yet? What if said alien life is are just small lizards on some planet googol light years away and too small to see? What if we're the advance alien race?

​@@alaina4070 that's deep and most likely the case if there is life

@@alaina4070 There are probably planets with just simple life (lizards) but I also think there could be advanced planets with intelligent life, technology. Still, the chance we would find each other is practically zero..

@@bubblebutt_OO lizards aren't simple in this context. Bacteria and amoebae are simple, lizards are highly complex

@@otto_jk well Alaina mentioned lizards in her comment, so I replied with lizards, I know they aren't as simple as bacteria

I mean at this point, if they exist, they definitely already discovered us, we leave behind such a big and loud footprint in so many ways (radio signals, light waves, etc.)

​@gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179 Actually our light is negligible and radio signals eventually blend into background noise at a far enough distance. Plus any signal we make can only travel at the speed of light. Aliens looking for us would have an easier time looking for signs of life in earths atmospheric gasses thousands of years ago and accidentally stumbling upon us when they get here.

I believe it was a joke but became creepypasta. Nice read iirc

True some theory suggests that aliens that already have advanced technology might be able to sense our signal but are refusing to cooperate due to our inferiority 😂 ​@@gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179

I think it was from Bob's Burgers. 🍔

this the realest comment tho. i have a feeling theyd act exactly like that. unless the aliens are extremely emotionally intelligent and decide to show mercy and spare us. but then again maybe emotion is special to humans. what if some aliens arent even capable of feeling emotions?

​@@prxncessleaAs a professional stellaris player, I can confirm that they don't care and they're going to orbital bombard us and send skyscraper sized mechs

Remember Africa? Oh wait...

We live in a big void. One of the largest, if not the largest one. Even if there would be some scary galactic empire, getting to us is already a challenge.

Been an OG sub since this Channel’s inception 🥺

Aliens 👽 are definitely among us!, have you seen Dennis Rodman?

where do you find these wonderful graphics?

Pin pin?

Style feels a bit disingenuous, sorry if that's not true but that's how I see it

IE: Nukes.

That barrier is receding. Ego too fast.

Or global warming

Global warming and capitalism

@@Nishye501 warming, war, over population. It's all the same thing. All ego

its not scary at all tbh

Interesting. I just started listening to this book today, having never heard of it before... and within 6 hours I come across a comment on youtube referencing it 😅 Observational bias is weird, man 👍

Yep, the dark forest. It makes exquisite sense.

The dark forest is a paranoid dead-end. Sure, by the dark forest we shouldn’t attempt to contact others. But sufficiently advanced civilizations should be able to detect us. For 2 billion years our atmosphere has given away that there’s life here. By the dark forest theory anyone within a thousand lightyears should have sterilized the Earth any time in the last 2 billion years. Dark forest would necessitate that humanity cease any further technological development lest we make ourselves even more conspicuous. If we were to build a Dyson swarm we’d become blazingly obvious. We might get away with expanding ourselves to subsurface colonies on other celestial bodies. Or we vastly increase our cadence. Build overwhelming defensive and offensive capabilities as quickly as possible. Under-estimated primates to galactic dominance in a mere century or two. And take a page from our own example and nuke the snot out of every warm tidal pool we happen across.

I haven't had the opportunity with the series yet. So, perhaps my question is premature or conjectural. Still, I don't understand why the author has, seemingly, hijacked the phrase to represent something (based upon my limited, preliminary understanding: the interaction of dissimilar, "intelligent-"beings across the existential, physical boundarlies of space) so different to its well-defined and purposeful-origination; yet, within a similar field of study/interest (the confounded-interactions of three distinct masses in space and the effects they impart on one another's orbital motion/positioning by way of their inherent gravitational and momentus/inertial influence. The "problem" being... that, as the limits of our biological meat-processors dictates, the relevent "if/then" factors become so astronomically [pun, intended] numerous that our capabilities to predict that motion/those positions becomes swiftly impossible... without the use of quantum-computing, I assume.) The synopsis, of which, being... one is concerned with physics and the other... philosophical-fiction...??? ...I suppose...??? ...but both concern themselves with space and statistical-unpredictability...??? ...I suppose...??? All I'm saying is, the popularity of the novel is forcing the consideration of, when the subject arises in daily conversation, as it does, potentially having to explain/(ask), "to which, of the two, one is referring.(?)" Further, even as the subject is so often encountered, requiring referential clarification, almost daily... it would seem... I do realize that I will, likely, NEVER spend SO much time with that instance of clarification, throughout the course of my lifetime, as I have in presenting the complication for all who read this to ponder, here; however, mine is a life dedicated to sacrifice for the betterment of all mankind and my father created me with the intent that I fulfill such a selfless purpose.

​@@ShannonBarber78not necessarily. Depends on how we continue to build upon that principle

@@ShannonBarber78 The more likely filters is that Klaus Schwab and his WEF friends will have 90% of us exterminated and the surviving 10% enslaved eating bugs while they do the most perverse and terrible things to children in the new Epst31n Island.

In the next world update

Bruh

Those who preordered get early access.

This is a giant game of The Sims and our creators have removed the hypothetical pool ladder

By that logic, the people running the sim would be the aliens. Unless we passed some threshold where they eventually saw us as real people too

Or, animals living on a nature preserve?

I have a similar thinking. Like Star Trek’s no-contact rule

@@jvar_DC09 " a hamster in a cage" implies that they care about our well being. If we are more like a pack of rabbits, deer, voles or even a hornet nest that live in the forest beyond their back yard, they may be fairly indifferent to us, Or even consider us to be an unpleasantness that is just not worthy of being dealt with. At least not at the present. But, I repeat my opinion that they are probably entirely different than us, to the point that we would not compete for the same resources (such as inhabitable planets to colonize), and if we did encounter each other, we would not interact very much. Am I wrong? Maybe. 🤷🏼‍♂️ I say the _facts are_ we don't have any way of knowing, at this time in our history.

Ahhh. That explains it. The internet if full of people who have inherited their genes from people who struggled with the effective use of "the condom." It's evolution "intelligence" in reverse. Usually it's an advantage (intellectually or physically) that enables you to reproduce more, but in this case, it's a deficiency.

I too love science

hahah it won't let me change any thumbs on shorts!

Cephalopods, with their distributed brains, are way more alien than dinosaurs.

​@@CleoAbramI remember it was possible to change a short's thumbnail through the desktop browser version of RU-vid Studio, although I've just checked and it now says "For now, you can’t change the thumbnail on your Short". Perhaps that's a new "defeature" for some reason as I found this recent answer on Google's website: "Another top feature request is beginning to roll out! Creators on Android: During video creation, you can choose a frame from your Short to be used as the thumbnail for your video *To try this out:* *Record or import a video with the Shorts camera then navigate to the final upload screen *Tap the pencil icon that is overlaid over the thumbnail of your video *Scrub along your video’s timeline to pick a thumbnail then hit ‘Done’ *Upload your Short! Note: It’s not currently possible to change the thumbnail after your Short has been uploaded, but we look forward to bringing this feature to you in the future"

@@CantankerousDave Imagine if they actually cared for their offspring and passed down their knowledge. Now that’s a scary thought.

​@@TLguitarbut the video is already out, so how's it a defeature? Your source explains the current situation. Able to pick one before uploading, not after

I guess you shouldn't Google "gamma ray bursts." And the effects that they can have on the planet and that they move at the speed of the light, so you would never know they're coming.

Don't forget the new toxic pressure under the western hemisphere's tectonic plates (forgot which one) that is significantly overdue for erupting, potentially hitting the Yellowstone supervolcano's chambers and causing a global disaster within the next 100 year. This is due to the new pressure rigs set up that have started to "push" onto the tectonic plates. If I remember right, one small push is all it takes to piss of Yellowstone and earthquakes in general. Help me petition to stop the rigs. Nobody is talking about them and their consequences :/

@@MrZenmancer While the Sun growing old and eventually going Red is an inevitable thing, the odds of us getting swept by a direct path is pretty low. Square-Cube law and all that. Not to say the Sun itself couldn't get frisky and fry our electronic infrastructure one random day.

Well heres another to add.. either space is infinite or it isnt... if it is infinite since the further you are out in space the faster you're seperating that means that there will be a point where no matter what we do we would have to travel significantly faster than the speed of light to be able to catch up to other habitable planets since the speed of light is what determines the "observable" universe we can conclude that it would be impossible to find alien life at that point. The other option us that space is limited. Meaning that eventually every cosmic body will collide at the perimeter of the universe causing reformation of everything in the universe. Then momentum would carry everything back to the center where everything would collide at one point breaking everything apart once more. This 2nd thing, although terrifying would actually add another layer to the big bang theory. Because instead of everything starting at once, everything is in a perpetual loop of destruction and rebirth. Infinit space would statistically mean there would have to be an infinite number of livable planets (albeit a smaller infinity) with an infinite number of aliens. While limited space doesnt rule out the possibilty of aliens, it does mean that everything that exists will be remade into something new and that this event could happen at literally any moment and we would never know since we would be traveling faster than the speed of light before we got there.. those millions or billions of years it actually took to reach the edge would take all of a millisecond on earth at that point and we would all just cease to exist at once to rebirth new worlds equally ignorant to the nature of things

@SerunaXI Tell that to everyone that has an aneurysm.