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Why Won't It Start?! | 2006 Kia Sedona Start Problem | IPM Module 

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Why Won't It Crank?
I have several of these Kia Sedona Vans and I've had more than one of them have this same problem. The previous times, we replaced the IPM module, had it reprogrammed by the Kia dealership, and the issue was resolved. We tried the same thing on this van and it worked for a few days at best and has repeated ever since. We have of course tested the battery and starter and the neutral position switch. Any other ideas what could be keeping this van from cranking when you turn the key?
It is interesting to note that the van went almost a minute and a half the first time before it cranked and then every time after the wait time was less until it had no hesitation at all.
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Комментарии : 69   
@randymiller3998
@randymiller3998 Год назад
I've been having the same issue with my 2007 Sedona. At first, I thought it was the starter relay. Replacing didn't help. Also pulled a memory fuse as recommended by another video, didn't help. Your method worked, thanks! It went a month before the same thing happened again. Now it happens a few times a week but will always start after about a minute and a half, like in your video. If find any more info, please let us know. I noticed another video something about bypassing with the anti-theft in the IPM, but it entails talking apart the entire dash. If you had already replace the IPM though, not sure it would fix the issue.
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey Год назад
I'm glad my "hold" technique helped you. I should have inserted that scene from Braveheart where he was saying "Hoooold! .....Hoooold! ..." 😆
@xband
@xband 10 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for this. My cousins car was doing this same thing and at least now she can have a bit of confidence leaving the house! 👍👍👍
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey 9 месяцев назад
You're welcome. At least knowing it will start makes things a lot less stressful.
@2007rosey
@2007rosey 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for this video. This worked for my 07 Hyundai Entourage/kia Sedona. I haven’t been able to drive it for over a week.
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey 9 месяцев назад
Yes!!! So glad to hear it helped you.
@JGalegria
@JGalegria 6 месяцев назад
Thank you it worked. Yes it's the anti theft disabling technology playing up. Same thing happens every now and then with my Carnival.
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey 6 месяцев назад
Thanks. Glad it worked!
@newparts7
@newparts7 6 месяцев назад
Below the shifter on the right there is a shifter position switch and a module to the right of it that tell the van if it is in park and can be started so once I replaced both of those the van worked fine starting.
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey 6 месяцев назад
I think this shows that there are so many reasons for no crank that there isn't just one answer.
@aidensrawvideos376
@aidensrawvideos376 5 месяцев назад
Thank you, happened to me just a few minutes ago. Didn't want to start also and I was checking on RU-vid and found your video. Helped me a lot not to be bat shit crazy 😅
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey 5 месяцев назад
Awesome. Sometimes you just need to know you're not alone!
@Playmate12321
@Playmate12321 Год назад
It's the 4th of july, i live in my sedona, 9:20pm and you saved my night, thanks
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey Год назад
So awesome! Makes my day to know I helped you!
@7163nikki
@7163nikki 4 месяца назад
It really did work!!! Thank you so much
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey 4 месяца назад
Awesome! It doesn't work for everyone but I'm glad it worked for you!
@louieortz8307
@louieortz8307 4 месяца назад
Very, Very helpful! Thanks a Million!
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey 4 месяца назад
You're welcome!
@jjh8299
@jjh8299 11 месяцев назад
It is the anti-theft control device which has senors in the key fob, ignition switch, doors, hood, computer, etc. If it will not start but the dashboard has power with indicator lights on, it is the anti-theft device which Kia Sedona especially has a problem with. To bypass it, turn the key to the right twice on the driver's side door. You must do this everytime you drive your car. If you plug an engine analyzer on it while it is having the problem it will give a code or should. If you start your car after it will not start, (like in video) it wipes out the error code so the problem cannot be determined. Sort of catching it in the act then analyzing it. It will also activate the theft device and cause you unable to not start if the senor in the ignition switch "believes" it is a "bad key" or bad fob sensor.
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey 11 месяцев назад
This one apparently was different. We swapped the starter and it has worked ever since. Slightly bad connection in the starter.
@bigwes0280
@bigwes0280 11 месяцев назад
A yellow Van light comes on with a key on it. And I can't start my Kia 2006.
@Itsfranklyfrank
@Itsfranklyfrank 11 месяцев назад
Yeah same it eventually turns off tho after about 15ish seconds
@JGalegria
@JGalegria 6 месяцев назад
Same problem on my Kia Grand Carnival. Thanks for the info. I'm definitely going to try this in the future. It only happens every so often on mine 🙏
@jacksonbaganizi9741
@jacksonbaganizi9741 Месяц назад
@@Itsfranklyfrank if it starts and then shuts off, more than likely it's the Alternator
@joebarnhart4531
@joebarnhart4531 10 месяцев назад
I replaced the starter, 06 sedona worked fine for about a week. Now, same issue again. Removing the alternator relay under the steering wheel used to work. Now it doesn't. I'm stuck.
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey 10 месяцев назад
Ugh. These issues are so frustrating. Have you tried my "hold the key in start position" for an extended length of time trick?
@letmanson
@letmanson 7 месяцев назад
I'm having this problem with my entourage 2007. Already changed the starter - didn't work. Trying to hold the key also doesn't work on mine. Honestly, it is being a pain in the a$$ trying to figure out what the problem is. The mechanic said to try to start the car always on Neutral - not working either. I shook the key yesterday while the key was turned and the car turned on. Don't know if it was a coincidence or what.
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey 7 месяцев назад
Yeah it's the worst when it's not consistent. If holding the key doesn't work, look up the video on how to short the starter at the engine fuse and relay box. That will give you some clues whether the starter or wiring to the starter is bad. If it's the IPM module some people have success hitting the interior fuse panel area hard when trying to start.
@shanteathreatt1579
@shanteathreatt1579 Год назад
Only thing that works for my 2008 kia
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey Год назад
Lol so that's what you have to do too? Thank God I'm not alone. Now we just need someone to comment and give us a solution!
@loveachother4397
@loveachother4397 9 месяцев назад
Same year, Same model, over $300 into it, Same problem. Returning ignition switch assembly I bought then buying a new starter : * mobile mechanic noticed oil leak that dropped onto the current starter, says it might be causing the failure. Will update in the next 24-48
@jacksonbaganizi9741
@jacksonbaganizi9741 Месяц назад
@@loveachother4397Did you find the issue?
@RMcCoy-fb4rs
@RMcCoy-fb4rs 8 месяцев назад
I haven't tried leaving the key turned. I have left it parking lots overnight twice in 2 weeks. It starts fine the next day. It seems if I leave it alone for up to 3 hours, it will start. Quite tiring. I am going to switch to the other key. 06 sedona.
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey 8 месяцев назад
Let me know if that works. I'm curious.
@RMcCoy-fb4rs
@RMcCoy-fb4rs 8 месяцев назад
@@michaelfirey So far the "newer" key, or spare that hasn't been used much seems to be working. My mechanic said it is usually a worn key that causes this condition, but could be many other things. There's no code to read unless it's "doing the thing" you want diagnosed. I will make a new key as well and hope for the best in the meantime.
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey 8 месяцев назад
Wow that's unique.
@MrBlaze256
@MrBlaze256 8 месяцев назад
when mine does this a smack the panel under the steering wheel while trying to start it and it works everytime. im waiting for it to happen when im home so i can try and find out what it is.. you can always add a push button to the starter motor for a few bucks and never worry about it again
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey 8 месяцев назад
Try the key hold method. I'm curious if it will work for you.
@thebigdr
@thebigdr Год назад
My 2009 Sedona set off the security alarm when it wouldn't start and it's never done that before and I don't know why it did it but however I didn't try it in the ignition but I put the key in the driver's door and turned it to unlock for 30 seconds and that let it start. That was the first fix I found about a lot of Kia vehicles. It actually said to put it in the passenger door on the driver side but my sliding passenger door does not have a key lock so I just took a chance and tried it on the drivers door
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey Год назад
If you quickly turn the key in the door twice in a row it will unlock and disable alarms. Great for when your key fob dies. Please subscribe to my channel. When I find a solution I'll post a video about it.
@younggee8456
@younggee8456 Год назад
Good stuff 👍👍👍
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey Год назад
Thank you!
@jada3026
@jada3026 Год назад
Same issue only mine this dont work for but sometimes I get in the key and it starts right away
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey Год назад
Same here. It's completely random. If someone posts an answer that works or if I have a *real* 😆 mechanic figure it out I'll post a video on the solution.
@thebigdr
@thebigdr Год назад
Some kias have had problems with the anti-theft module but that's all I know. Just read about it today when my Sedona started beeping and wouldn't start. I put the key in the driver's door and held it to unlock for 30 seconds and that's what good mine. I didn't know anything about the ignition until now I bet it would have worked also.
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey Год назад
Ironically the starter fixed the issue on this van.
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey Год назад
It's in the shop. Fingers crossed we find a permanent solution!
@randymiller3998
@randymiller3998 Год назад
Did they figure anything out with your Sedona? Mine has been working fine for the past week or so. It's so weird how the problem is intermittent with everyone!
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey Год назад
@@randymiller3998 we replaced the ipm module a few months ago which likely fixed the original problem. This most recent problem appears to have been the starter. It bench tested fine but we haven't had issues for the past few days after putting in a new starter. I won't be confident until a few more days / weeks pass. The plastic connector on the starter was also brittle and broken so we replaced that as well. Fingers crossed!
@David-bg9od
@David-bg9od 7 месяцев назад
​@michaelfirey So was that the problem?
@sk8ordielh
@sk8ordielh 4 месяца назад
My 2005 sedona now won't start and its got all power. I found Animal shit in my engine compartment but nothing looks chewed on but the fire cover .
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey 4 месяца назад
You might look at all the comments. Different people have found different solutions.
@xband
@xband 10 месяцев назад
I think it started turning over when I was rolling up the driver window too, if that’s any clue. Could be if it’s related to a ground issue.
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey 9 месяцев назад
Lord help us if that was actually a thing lol
@xband
@xband 9 месяцев назад
😂
@bobby9195
@bobby9195 Год назад
07 does this sometimes, could it be the ignition failure sensor?
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey Год назад
I'm not sure if anything at this point. I'm going to take this to an ASE mechanic and see if they can figure it out. Once (and IF) I get a solution I'll update the channel.
@bobby9195
@bobby9195 Год назад
@@michaelfirey please let me know
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey Год назад
I've waited to be sure but ironically replacing the starter was the final thing that fixed this issue on this van. I replaced the ipm module on another van and it fixed the issue on that van. At this point I don't know if it was a combination of the ipm and the starter or was simply the starter all along. The starter passed testing so I didn't replace it earlier but apparently it made the difference in this situation.
@bobby9195
@bobby9195 Год назад
@@michaelfirey thank you
@joebarnhart4531
@joebarnhart4531 10 месяцев назад
​@michaelfirey where is the IPM module located?
@gtd65
@gtd65 6 месяцев назад
This was a very common problem back in the day. Here's what the fix used to be. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QUYk4f35xbM.html Here's a quick fix if you just want to start the van. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lCpxmdn0bYI.html
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey 6 месяцев назад
Thanks! Lol back in the day 😁
@gtd65
@gtd65 6 месяцев назад
@@michaelfirey it was funny because when I bought the Entourage I asked the owners if they'd had any problems with the van. They said "no mechanical problems at all!". I thought, it's strange that you specified "mechanical". I noticed there were mulitple spare fuses in the ashtray but could not find any issue with the van other than needing a thorough cleaning/valet. A few weeks later, my ex started to comment on the van not always starting. That was the beginning of my enlightenment!
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey 6 месяцев назад
I'd almost rather have a mechanical issue. It's better than this "ghost in the machine" junk
@danielardiles9423
@danielardiles9423 9 месяцев назад
Rele 30-87 is the problem
@michaelfirey
@michaelfirey 9 месяцев назад
I thought it might be a relay too at first. I had an identical van and I put them aside by side and swapped every relay one at a time and test cranked. It didn't work for me.
@danielardiles9423
@danielardiles9423 9 месяцев назад
@@michaelfirey This is not exactly a relay and it is responsible for maintaining the constant voltage. Regarding the ignition problem, what I did was disconnect and put contact cleaner and dialectric grease. This problem is very strange and even more so that it turns on with a small knock.
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