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Why WWE in 2017 to 2019 was Absolute Trash 

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WWE has always had its ups and downs, but the years 2017 to 2019 were the worst. Vince McMahon seemed to have totally lost his mind. WrestleMania was bad back to back, part timers like The Undertaker and Brock Lesnar were given special treatment, Raw and Smackdown was basically unwatchable, Baron Corbin was everywhere, and so much more. And people say the WWF in 1995 was bad.
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@StunnedByWrestling
@StunnedByWrestling 5 месяцев назад
Do you agree with my opinion that 2017 to 2019 was WWE's worst ever time? Was it worse than even The New Generation era? Let me know. If you enjoyed this video, your 👍 are always appreciated.
@KadeemG61
@KadeemG61 5 месяцев назад
Call it the “Vince’s Shite Booking” era.
@LibraJohnny
@LibraJohnny 5 месяцев назад
I was watching the New Generation era when I was a kid, and at least, there was great wrestlers.
@Kalel2.0
@Kalel2.0 5 месяцев назад
I would say the New Generation Era was worse especially due the mostly outdated and childish gimmicks and characters,Vince's refusal to change with the times and pretty consistent sub par ppvs and shows. The 2017-2019 era while having genuinely some questionable and poor booking descions,a lackluster main event scene,really chore to sit through ppvs and weekly shows and not giving the fans what they wanted had a lot more in my opinion redeeming aspects that the New Generation era didnt have despite it having it's own set of positives and moments
@jdbruiser
@jdbruiser 5 месяцев назад
Personally, I'd take the silly storylines here over the sterile storylines of today. If you think today's product is fantastic, it is in a wrestling sense, but there's barely any substance to most of the storylines. The Bloodline storyline has had its moments, but usually they come when The Usos or Sami Zayn did or said something daring, not because there was any real flavour to The Bloodline's presentation. Cody's promos likewise have some good wordplay in them, but otherwise he's nowhere near as engrossing as he was when he was Dashing/Undashing Cody Rhodes.
@anthonylucero6650
@anthonylucero6650 5 месяцев назад
Because of Vince, but he’s not there anymore ya complaining mook😒
@michaelsinger4638
@michaelsinger4638 5 месяцев назад
Vince McMahon needed to go. He was holding things back by that point.
@EVGriffinJr
@EVGriffinJr 5 месяцев назад
Yes, even without all the controversy, Vince needed to go. I’m not gonna act like Triple H is perfect, he’s not. But, from a creative standpoint McMahon just wasn’t it.
@KINGMONKEY1989
@KINGMONKEY1989 5 месяцев назад
He didnt hold anything back in that office with Johnny Ace 😂😂😂
@OtherBarry4908
@OtherBarry4908 5 месяцев назад
he is so scared of the SJW mob.
@PsuedoIssac-to3ff
@PsuedoIssac-to3ff 5 месяцев назад
Happy people are outwardly expressing what I've been feeling for years.
@nativejabroni1555
@nativejabroni1555 5 месяцев назад
He was so out of touch looking back my God BOD vs DX Undertaker vs Goldberg Goldberg beating The Field and having him completely buried, and some cringeworthy storylines
@swifty123
@swifty123 5 месяцев назад
Bro giving everyone PTSD with this video 😂
@brandonanderson5394
@brandonanderson5394 5 месяцев назад
No bull shit 😭
@Kalel2.0
@Kalel2.0 5 месяцев назад
Those Vietnam flashbacks are kicking in😂
@StunnedByWrestling
@StunnedByWrestling 5 месяцев назад
I started thinking about that Rusev/Lana/Lashley feud and thought "You're all coming down this rabbit hole with me" 😆
@brinkleymaster8118
@brinkleymaster8118 5 месяцев назад
*having PTSD* Bobby Lashley’s sisters Hell In A Cell 2019 Undertaker vs Goldberg 24/7 Champion Dog foods Shorty G Jinder Mahal’s WWE Champion The death of Tag Teams Emmalina So…. Much…. Pain….!
@mycahjofficial
@mycahjofficial 5 месяцев назад
@@brinkleymaster8118 Roman Reigns’s babyface push
@LibraJohnny
@LibraJohnny 5 месяцев назад
Bayley humiliated was the best representation of Vince's cynism, burying natural babyfaces.
@castielchieng7475
@castielchieng7475 5 месяцев назад
She can be the female John Cena. The kids loved her character, the adults loved her wrestling and her cake but yet they managed to make people boo her during a promo where she was injured.
@datboi2514
@datboi2514 5 месяцев назад
@@castielchieng7475 the cake is the most important part
@castielchieng7475
@castielchieng7475 5 месяцев назад
@@datboi2514 and on the fourth day, God said MAKE IT CLAP
@iansoberano5103
@iansoberano5103 2 месяца назад
I Love me some BAYLEY aka Pamela Rose Martinez dude shut up. Your comments are out of line.
@joshuaottley7902
@joshuaottley7902 5 месяцев назад
2017 - 2019 can be summed up simply as this: Vince was so pissed that the fans rejected Roman Reigns that he decided to sabotage EVERY other wrestler on the roster, regardless of if they were involved with Reigns or not.
@Luke21-xk7uh
@Luke21-xk7uh 5 месяцев назад
Pretty much this. And that's why I roll my eyes when people call Roman Reigns the Goat bro. Roman being a heel was pretty much the same as him being a face when it came to WWE shoving him down our throats and constantly sucking him off at every fucking turn. Like the babyfaces will literally in Kayfabe praise him as if he doesn't cheat in every match. Every other heel in history never got this special treatment. The commentators trashed them all the time. But because Roman's the golden boy he gets treated differently.
@CyberHardcore-z7g
@CyberHardcore-z7g 5 месяцев назад
@@Luke21-xk7uhno… the smarks are the ones that ruined Roman reigns. Roman was OVER AF when he was in the shield and got louder reactions than the other two members so Vince (rightfully so) gave the fans what they wanted by pushing Roman but the fans had already fantasy booked Bryan’s comeback story in their heads along with the CM Punk podcast and decided that they’d turn on him because WWE didn’t follow the exact plan that the fans wanted…
@Luke21-xk7uh
@Luke21-xk7uh 5 месяцев назад
@@CyberHardcore-z7g Roman was over in the shield, when he had Seth and Dean talking for him. Then he left for a little bit after SummerSlam and as soon as he came back they immediately tried to push him as the face of the company and no one supported it. He was booed in nearly every building. Not to mention that he wasn't cutting very good promos, he was constantly involved in terrible story lines, and was given WrestleMania main events left and right despite the fact that none of them felt earned and all the matches were pretty terrible.
@CyberHardcore-z7g
@CyberHardcore-z7g 5 месяцев назад
@@Luke21-xk7uh he was getting cheered quite a bit shortly after he left the shield. The boos started when he came back from his hernia operation then got worse after royal rumble 2015
@Luke21-xk7uh
@Luke21-xk7uh 5 месяцев назад
@@CyberHardcore-z7g He literally got cheered for a few months and the WWE immediately tried to build the company around him. The fans were more invested in Dean Ambrose at the time and they would constantly stifle him to get Roman over. The fans turned on him pretty quick and for good reason 2015-2019 is by far the worst time in professional wrestling. 2016-2017 Smackdown and NXT really were amazing though.
@acuss2089
@acuss2089 5 месяцев назад
Also in 2017, a legend like Chris Jericho had to face such an insult by getting his main event spot at WrestleMania replaced by a couple of part-timers who can't even wrestle for 10 minutes
@CyberHardcore-z7g
@CyberHardcore-z7g 5 месяцев назад
Considering Kevin Owens vs Chris Jericho ended up being a very mediocre match, I think it was the right choice that they didn’t end up main eventing. Somehow Goldberg vs Brock was a more enjoyable match
@acuss2089
@acuss2089 5 месяцев назад
@@CyberHardcore-z7g maybe their Universal Title match would've been great and I don't think Goldberg vs Brock was that enjoyable I already knew what was gonna happen
@qkomodo9098
@qkomodo9098 5 месяцев назад
​@@CyberHardcore-z7gI mean, if my potential main event spot being replaced by part-timers, I'd be deflated & drained, so that's why the chemistry was awful. They were likely definitely pissed and I don't blame them
@CyberHardcore-z7g
@CyberHardcore-z7g 5 месяцев назад
@@qkomodo9098 that’s called having a bad attitude in life
@g.o.a.t.8168
@g.o.a.t.8168 4 месяца назад
Seeing how Jericho turned out all these years I'm glad he didn't main event. KO still main evented just 6 yrs later but as for Jericho that guy can go kick rocks fuck him
@aldouscoroza
@aldouscoroza 5 месяцев назад
Quick Answer it was all Vinces Fault
@OtherBarry4908
@OtherBarry4908 5 месяцев назад
its not just vince. It's also Stephanie and the PC crybaby mob.
@Malachi-Rhodes
@Malachi-Rhodes 5 месяцев назад
​@@OtherBarry4908 What did Stephanie do?
@OtherBarry4908
@OtherBarry4908 5 месяцев назад
@@Malachi-Rhodes she contributed to ruining the women's division by shoving in woke feminist cringe and mediocre main events. She's part of why wwe did a all female ppv that literally no one asked for.
@USHARDY
@USHARDY 5 месяцев назад
@@OtherBarry4908 People definitely wanted an all women’s PPV. If anything, Steph is responsible for making everything feel all forced with the “women’s revolution“ tagline and stuff. It’s like WWE patting themselves on the back for finally not treating women like trash anymore when they should’ve done that a long time ago.
@OtherBarry4908
@OtherBarry4908 5 месяцев назад
@@USHARDY they only treated them badly in the 2010s. how the division is in 2016 and onwards isn't that great. It's overrated, overhyped, lacking originality and has a lot of bad moments and feminist cringe. wwe is trying too hard to please the PC culture mob.
@jeremywilliams5141
@jeremywilliams5141 5 месяцев назад
I think we can also include the following: 1. Brock Lesnar reigning as Universal Champion on a part-time schedule. 2. The 2019 Hell in a Cell match 3. Brock Lesnar winning the Money in the Bank briefcase in 2019. While the other competitors were beating each other up, Brock just all of a sudden runs to the ring, knocks Mustafa Ali off the ladder, climbs the ladder, grabs the briefcase, and wins the match. Brock Lesnar did NOT need to even be in the MITB match, let alone win it.
@OtherBarry4908
@OtherBarry4908 5 месяцев назад
4.all the terrible decisions wwe made that ruined the women's division. 5.remaining soft and cowering to SJWs.
@reddragon0624
@reddragon0624 5 месяцев назад
@@OtherBarry4908can you explain #5
@OtherBarry4908
@OtherBarry4908 5 месяцев назад
@@reddragon0624 wwe is scared to piss off a group of liberal idiots that get offended over every ridiculous thing.
@nalday2534
@nalday2534 5 месяцев назад
That b got couldnt explain anything even if his life depended on it ​@@reddragon0624
@unknownunknown1041
@unknownunknown1041 4 месяца назад
@@reddragon0624 5 needs no explanation. Soft product for soy audience is what WWE tried to cater to for a while. Take Daniel Bryan’s eco-champion gimmick for example.
@Kalel2.0
@Kalel2.0 5 месяцев назад
Man these were true dark ages😂 especially 2018 . NXT Black and Gold carried these years heavily with their much better quality product and it didnt help every call up to the main roster was dreadful and such a demotion cause they were most likely gonna be saddled with horrible material. Thank God we're out of the trenches
@NickTG29
@NickTG29 5 месяцев назад
Now NXT is bad, and the songs are too.
@jblassio
@jblassio 5 месяцев назад
This crap made WCW 99-2001 look like the WWF Attitude Era.
@allencollins5666
@allencollins5666 5 месяцев назад
🤜 🤛
@EpicAndrew97
@EpicAndrew97 5 месяцев назад
It put late 1994-early 1996 to shame
@Xolanidj
@Xolanidj 5 месяцев назад
Let’s not forget that during the time that Brock Lesnar was the Universal Champion and not on TV, Jinder Mahal was the WWE Champion for some time. WWE was just not watchable at that time. 😂😂
@RabiaaHQ
@RabiaaHQ 5 месяцев назад
To be fair, Jinder Mahal being WWE Champion was a breath of fresh air, especially the way he became #1 contender and the promo after it. It was after he became champion that it went downhill.
@Xolanidj
@Xolanidj 5 месяцев назад
@@RabiaaHQ yeah, you’re right. I actually liked seeing him become the champion. But almost none of his wins were clean, and the gimmick just wore off quickly.
@adrianfernandez4322
@adrianfernandez4322 5 месяцев назад
The entrance and theme song was sickkkk
@Bill22771180
@Bill22771180 5 месяцев назад
That's probably the only thing that I even remember from that era. And for some reason I liked his title reign all though his ring work sucked.
@PegasiJay
@PegasiJay 5 месяцев назад
And Baron Corbin had 20 minute opening segments on raw every night as raw GM 😢
@holzman00
@holzman00 5 месяцев назад
I think 2017-2019 WWE has surpassed 1995-96 WWF as the worst period in company history. Nonsensical storylines, start-and-stop pushes, WWE deliberately burying fan favorites, and complete fan apathy. Hell, AEW was partly birthed by disgruntled ex-WWE stars. May that era rest is piss.
@Redshirt434
@Redshirt434 5 месяцев назад
Yes, but in the mid 90s, WWE was fighting for it's survival financially being pushed by WCW. AEW didn't exist yet until late 2019, and even late 2010s WWE had a boatload of money.
@jaywaltz7740
@jaywaltz7740 5 месяцев назад
Kofi-mania alone is better than the 95-96 period
@officialfumofeltingchannel1490
@officialfumofeltingchannel1490 5 месяцев назад
96 at least had the Pillman gun promo
@jeremyvanb821
@jeremyvanb821 5 месяцев назад
I don’t know. 1995 was by far their worst year. Survivor series 95 saved my fandom. Had it not been for that show, I would have fell out of both wcw and wwe because 95 was bad for wrestling as a whole with hogan just being the king of cringe in 95. 2017 to 2019 was tragically horrible but 95 still takes the cake. King Mable alone makes it terrible but you also had Diesel in the main events with immobile big men and such a lean roster. Plus we had NXT at least to have fun with. I will say though that 95 to 96 was just wwe trying to keep their head above water. So I get why it would be worse but 17 to 19 with all that talent wasted was highly frustrating to sit through. Vince lost the magic and really had been declining for a lot longer than this two year period but this was Vince at his peak of shitty.
@conradojavier7547
@conradojavier7547 5 месяцев назад
To Vince, those Years were His Peak.
@mushroomsamba82
@mushroomsamba82 5 месяцев назад
I missed most of this time period thankfully. I can't believe Vince made up a story just to rib Angle for having black girlfriends. What a piece of crap.
@Kalel2.0
@Kalel2.0 5 месяцев назад
Man I envy you cause you didnt have to sit through the dark ages
@mikehunt4986
@mikehunt4986 5 месяцев назад
@@Kalel2.0 You didn't have to sit through it either.
@Kalel2.0
@Kalel2.0 5 месяцев назад
@@mikehunt4986 I actually gave up in around mid to late 2018 and mostly focussed on NXT and caught with the main roster mostly online
@IkeWarchol407
@IkeWarchol407 5 месяцев назад
Can't wait for him to go rot in hell
@Malachi-Rhodes
@Malachi-Rhodes 5 месяцев назад
You missed out on the Bobby Lashley sisters promo and the Bayley this is your life segments.
@conradojavier7547
@conradojavier7547 5 месяцев назад
To Vince, these years WERE his Peak.
@Loe_Jist
@Loe_Jist 5 месяцев назад
Nah even he has admitted in interviews that he's made some bad decisions and there was something special about the late 90s-00s.
@kazallroberts
@kazallroberts 5 месяцев назад
For me at least, 2017 & early 2018 was tolerable but following Wrestlemania 34, the product was legit unwatchable.
@rezarfar
@rezarfar 5 месяцев назад
Because Vince Mcmahon had actually lost touch with reality by that point. He lost his ability to make a solid product by 2014 and by 2016 he had lost touch with reality altogether.
@Loe_Jist
@Loe_Jist 5 месяцев назад
His last 10-15 years at WWE were mostly trash. He was over the hill, too stubborn, too old, too crazy to listen to fans and see the obvious talent he had available.
@user-nx9qh1po1n
@user-nx9qh1po1n 5 месяцев назад
I think the Benoit situation made him scared from doing anything like he did before. After 2007, WWE went pg and he pretty much became a shell of his former self with the childish promos. Similar situation happened in the 90's after the steroid trial.
@chikish
@chikish 5 месяцев назад
It's crazy just how much of Vince's fetishes and other perversions are reflected in so many WWE gimmicks and storylines through the years. The amount of angles depicting some form of humiliation is staggering. If you think too much about it, it really does start to kind of alter or affect the way you look back and enjoy a lot of WWE's history.
@bigmojo704
@bigmojo704 5 месяцев назад
He's like Dan Schneider
@Emper0rH0rde
@Emper0rH0rde 5 месяцев назад
"He had either completely lost his mind, or had just stopped caring." I think it was neither. Vince was operating on pure spite by that point. If the crowd liked it, he made it his mission to destroy it.
@Nick_T_90
@Nick_T_90 Месяц назад
It was pure spite because he realized he failed miserably pushing Roman reigns as the new John Cena so he decided to bury every single wrestler on the roster that people like I will never forgive Vince for what he did to bayley making her afraid of a goddamn stick
@Emper0rH0rde
@Emper0rH0rde Месяц назад
@@Nick_T_90 I think it was also his personal revenge for the Yes! Movement that essentially forced him to put Daniel Bryan in the main event of WrestleMania in 2014. It would explain why he made Rusev such a doormat. He was *not* going to let another Yes! Movement happen, and over the next few years, he made it his mission to let the fans, and the crowds, know exactly what he thought of them and what they enjoyed.
@afroprince5262
@afroprince5262 5 месяцев назад
Mid/late 2016 had shown so much promise only for it to go poof as soon the year ended . But I’ll say there were dope moments in 2017 -2019 Daniel Bryan’s miraculous comeback , him paying it forward to kofi Kingston I liked the survivor series matches he and AJ had against Brock AJ styles and Kevin Owen”s feud over the us title , and Becky lynch winning both belts at mania 35 But it’s like for every good moment , they always found a way to make things silly again. Ironically the pandemic era was slightly better And 2021 to now has been enjoyable
@NickTG29
@NickTG29 5 месяцев назад
2022 to now, 2021 was terd shit
@Immy_Islam786
@Immy_Islam786 5 месяцев назад
2017-2020 was Vince Russo WCW 2000 level bad. This is why AEW was as successful as it was when they first started out because Vince had fucked up the product so bad. It wasn't until 2022 was when people started to be re-interested in WWE and that's because Triple H became the head booker. Triple H should have been the booker years ago.
@mrrobluxo2369
@mrrobluxo2369 5 месяцев назад
I was the biggest Roman defender in 2016 but around this time I was truly becoming sick of him. They gave him every babyface storyline and it backfired. 2019 was easily the worst year. That being said I was kinda curious where they were going with the Jason Jordan storyline
@theonlygoodonehere2259
@theonlygoodonehere2259 5 месяцев назад
roman sucked bad in 2015-2019, nothing was working, his gimmick was full of messy garbage and confusing, so generic
@ninjapirate47
@ninjapirate47 5 месяцев назад
Suffering succotash!!!
@TheWheelOfTyne
@TheWheelOfTyne 5 месяцев назад
From 1993 to to late 2016 I stayed up to watch every show/ppv live by 2017 it was an effort to turn my phone on to check the Wrestlemania results
@BrotherIsraelTopics
@BrotherIsraelTopics 5 месяцев назад
Dang fam . You must be a huge fan lol
@EpicAndrew97
@EpicAndrew97 5 месяцев назад
You even stuck around in the atrocious 1995?
@PhanTasm3060
@PhanTasm3060 5 месяцев назад
Wrestlemania 2017 was not that bad. Bc the hardy boys returned
@arrownoir
@arrownoir 5 месяцев назад
The Goldberg Brock era was miserable.
@bugsbunny677
@bugsbunny677 5 месяцев назад
2:11 What? STOP Saying African-American!, Man. He Don't look African! And He is not African!! He's a mixed-American! What is wrong with you, man?
@cheyguy1211
@cheyguy1211 5 месяцев назад
Surprised the awful booking of the Ambrose heel turn wasn't mentioned. Booking so terrible it birthed arguably the hottest star currently outside the WWE.
@Nick_T_90
@Nick_T_90 Месяц назад
They pissed of Ambrose so much that he left and is now the biggest mainstream star in WWEs biggest competition since WCW which is a shame because they booked the actual heel turn to perfection
@noneedtoknow-yv2tu
@noneedtoknow-yv2tu 25 дней назад
​​@@Nick_T_90"biggest mainstream star in the competition" that was Punk. Jon's just there to blade and roll around in barbed wire after he's losing to Domino's employees at local jiu jitsu tournaments ofc.
@georgeo3738
@georgeo3738 5 месяцев назад
you could honestly lump the pandemic era here too. the no fans thing was out of everyones control, but there was so much terrible stuff in 2020 through 2021. the karaoke segment on smackdown, basically every ppv in 2020, most of the cinematic matches were bad, a lot of shitty bray wyatt stuff, zombie lumberjack match, and more. only thing to really come out of this era was the bloodline.
@officialfumofeltingchannel1490
@officialfumofeltingchannel1490 5 месяцев назад
Out of the loop what happened with Bray Wyatt?
@prodbxrii
@prodbxrii 5 месяцев назад
true but I’d say there was a slight improvement especially in smackdown with Roman’s early tribal chief run, and even on Raw with Randy’s heel fueds with Edge and Drew
@M._mkid
@M._mkid 5 месяцев назад
That randy Orton and Bray Wyatt Rivalry was a mess.
@sonomni
@sonomni 5 месяцев назад
Most? There was only like two. And those two matches were goated.
@georgeo3738
@georgeo3738 5 месяцев назад
@@sonomni this is exactly what im talking about. most of them were so bad we collectively decided to forget them. for every cool cinematic match there was two bad ones. if want some examples, look at the street profits vs viking raiders or the swamp fight.
@dhruvmenon6989
@dhruvmenon6989 5 месяцев назад
Unpopular Opinion- Even though 2009-2012 era of wwe was corny it had really good moments and don't forget two of the best matches happened in that era (Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels at WrestleMania 25 and CM Punk vs John Cena at Money in the Bank 2011)
@fungunsun1
@fungunsun1 4 месяца назад
Some feuds were really good too like Orton vs Cena and Orton vs Triple H.
@tonileo9849
@tonileo9849 2 месяца назад
Orton vs Christian too, that 2011 summer had its moments
@dhruvmenon6989
@dhruvmenon6989 2 месяца назад
@@tonileo9849 Cena vs Punk, Orton vs Triple H, Punk vs Hardy, Triple H vs Undertaker, Shawn Michaels vs Undertaker, Orton vs Christian, Cena ve Orton, Cena vs Rock so many legendary feuds happened during this era
@jamesr2476
@jamesr2476 5 месяцев назад
I stopped watching WWE from 2018 until now and all I've learned is that I missed nothing
@demonsuckafucka6828
@demonsuckafucka6828 5 месяцев назад
AJ Styles carried SmackDown (2016-18)
@StunnedByWrestling
@StunnedByWrestling 5 месяцев назад
I did not expect AJ to get that push. Vince must have liked him
@petersonofleo11
@petersonofleo11 5 месяцев назад
Even Undertaker said that AJ Styles is just someone that gets IT. He impressed Vince so much that he was Undertaker last opponent.
@FazeRustyNuts
@FazeRustyNuts 5 месяцев назад
​@@StunnedByWrestlingThere was legit no way Kofi was going to put up a fight against Brock Lesnar, are you insane?
@Sh34528
@Sh34528 5 месяцев назад
@@FazeRustyNutslike seth rollins beat brock so can kofi Even if brock had to win it could have been a competitive match not a squash. match
@FazeRustyNuts
@FazeRustyNuts 5 месяцев назад
@@Sh34528 Kofi is not Seth Rollins. He's not even close to the level of Seth Rollins and that match proved it. Trying to compare Kofi Kingston to Seth Rollins is laughable, it was a squash match for a reason.
@christopherballero866
@christopherballero866 5 месяцев назад
2015 to 2019 was a really bad time. This is why NJPW got a lot of rise & how AEW got started. That's how bad it was that after 20 years of no challenge WWE finally had competition. The title scene centered around: Brock, Roman, Seth, & sometimes Goldberg was really bad
@biggie_a6466
@biggie_a6466 5 месяцев назад
This Baron Corbin hate is not tolerable, he is a great worker and talent with bad writing.
@Loe_Jist
@Loe_Jist 5 месяцев назад
Yes, but Angle deserved a FAR better retirement match on a grander scale with a veteran opponent. Vince's poor booking and scatterbrained decisions left him with no logical big names for Angle to face when he wanted to call it quits.
@dallasarnold1803
@dallasarnold1803 4 месяца назад
I know 2017-2019 is the worst period in WWE history because of Vince McMahon but if I hear or see another "2017-2019 is the worst period ever" or "absolute trash," I am seriously going to lose it.
@joshuaelder8983
@joshuaelder8983 3 месяца назад
It was awful and drove away millions of fans
@homeoftek5844
@homeoftek5844 2 месяца назад
I'm not the biggest wrestling fan anymore like I was in my teens. But this video helped me finally face the same reality as everyone else, which is that Triple H is a better booker than Vince. For the life of me I couldn't see it. Thanks to Triple H, 2024 is actually one of the best years WWE has had in a long time
@EVGriffinJr
@EVGriffinJr 5 месяцев назад
Even without all the controversy that came up around Vince, in a small way, it was a blessing because Vince McMahon really need to go. From a creative standpoint, he didn’t have it anymore. I’m not saying HHH is perfect, and I’m still not sure Cody Rhodes should’ve been the one to beat Roman reigns recently, But it’s loads better than what we were given back at this time!
@Loe_Jist
@Loe_Jist 5 месяцев назад
Nobody else could or should have beaten Reigns. It was time for a new champ to kick off a new era rather than defaulting to Lesnar, Cena, Orton, or Rock. Nobody else had the star power, optimism, heroic, inspirational babyface potential that he had. People keep saying "he's boring! he's lame! he's a crybaby!" and they don't respect his humility and willingness to express vulnerability. He could spice it up a bit in his promos, but he just won the belt not even 2 weeks ago. He's bound to start a feud with AJ Styles after tonight so that'll be interesting. AJ is retiring soon and Backlash is probably gonna be his last (big) match. Maybe even his retirement match. We don't need any more part-timers holding belts. That needs to be retired with McMahon. It's time for something different.
@AnthonyChobotdoespopcultresand
@AnthonyChobotdoespopcultresand 5 месяцев назад
2017 was a dark time in my life personally and professionally
@jblassio
@jblassio 5 месяцев назад
I hear that. That year was the end of my career 10 year career and the birth of my new career going on 7 years. Although it’s not always been steady sailing, it’s a whole lot better now than I was in 2017🤗
@AnthonyChobotdoespopcultresand
@AnthonyChobotdoespopcultresand 5 месяцев назад
@@jblassio I am doing a whole lot better with My mental health
@theonlygoodonehere2259
@theonlygoodonehere2259 5 месяцев назад
2015 and 2016 was for me
@jblassio
@jblassio 5 месяцев назад
@@AnthonyChobotdoespopcultresand good to hear man! The person who inflicted all that mental gaslighting, is no longer working there; so I’m happy she’s not there ruining other people’s career.
@AnthonyChobotdoespopcultresand
@AnthonyChobotdoespopcultresand 5 месяцев назад
@@jblassio same
@KadeemG61
@KadeemG61 5 месяцев назад
Close, 2015-2019 was very bad.
@J.D.hy1gd
@J.D.hy1gd 3 месяца назад
2015-16 was awesome
@mattsharkey8437
@mattsharkey8437 5 месяцев назад
The Cry Baby era will bring back the misery
@brandonpost02
@brandonpost02 5 месяцев назад
Then also every ppv was literally 8 hours long, 8 hours of garbage booking, it’s hard for me to watch a wrestling show for 8 hours with good booking let alone bad
@endorama0
@endorama0 4 месяца назад
only wrestlemania 35 was 8 hours long counting the kick off show, what are you talking about?
@RIPdixiecarter
@RIPdixiecarter 5 месяцев назад
Vince is a 70 something year old man , constantly stressed, and got average 5 hours of sleep if that on a nightly basis. Those are probably some clues as to why he was cognitively declining as a booker. Either that or he was way more interested in who he was going to SA or s**t on instead.
@DarkEmoNinja
@DarkEmoNinja 5 месяцев назад
2018 had potential to be the best year but…it all fell apart
@ceca.mp3728
@ceca.mp3728 4 месяца назад
I've been a lifelong WWE fan and I stopped watching in 2019, it was unbearably and disrespectfully bad. I came back in 2023 and it's brought my passion back!
@diendong
@diendong 5 месяцев назад
After watching Omega vs Okada at Wrestle Kingdom in 2017 , it ruined watching WWE for me. I knew nothing about these guys nor their story. I didn’t believe the hype but damn I was proven wrong. I completely stopped watching WWE in late 2019 and haven’t gone back since. Going through the weekly shows was a chore. Bryan Danielson had the amazing run with the hemp belt and the funny segments calling the WWE universe fat. Once Bryan was done, I’ll turn the channel because I found myself complaining most of the time so it felt more like hate watching.
@damarithomas
@damarithomas 5 месяцев назад
The main event of WM 31 was actually good
@melanineyedoc
@melanineyedoc 5 месяцев назад
They had no choice but to insert Seth. It was headed for another catastrophe because everyone had had just about enough of Roman as a face and no one wanted Lesnar on top either because of his part time status.
@theonlygoodonehere2259
@theonlygoodonehere2259 5 месяцев назад
@@melanineyedoc yeah but seth fell apart too, the crowd was more behind lesnar and got more reaction than seth rollins
@prodbxrii
@prodbxrii 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, Roman and Brock actually managed to get the crowed involved. Sucks it took them another 7 years to have a a good match which was their last
@theonlygoodonehere2259
@theonlygoodonehere2259 5 месяцев назад
@@prodbxrii their crown jewel match was good until the finish, the crowd was chanting "this is awesome" I have no idea why people hate that match so much
@fighterdurden
@fighterdurden 5 месяцев назад
Top 5 WM ME if you ask me: the brutality of Brock Lesnar, the 'Suplex City, B' momment, Roman's comeback, the nearfalls... and Seth cashing in at the end. It was a masterclass on how to book a Main Event for the ages.
@jUAN.T
@jUAN.T 5 месяцев назад
When TNA 2017-2018 was best glad I watch that TNA instead crap WWE
@booboo4ever24
@booboo4ever24 5 месяцев назад
Imagine what HHH could have done with Bobby Lashley, Rusev, Samoa Joe, Cesaro, Bray Wyatt
@khesipresents1885
@khesipresents1885 5 месяцев назад
Youre gonna just assume hhh likes and will push those guys?same mistake yalo made with tony khan when wrestlers left wwe
@Malachi-Rhodes
@Malachi-Rhodes 5 месяцев назад
​@khesipresents1885 He would have most certainly pushed those guys. Especially Rusev, who was over like crazy with Rusev Day.
@rokaanalzeer7148
@rokaanalzeer7148 5 месяцев назад
Keith Lee too.
@ITSHIM1294
@ITSHIM1294 5 месяцев назад
Lashely became 2 time champion. Cesaro and Rusev were boring
@khesipresents1885
@khesipresents1885 5 месяцев назад
@@Malachi-Rhodes you're fooling yourself thinking HHH will push every fan favourite......bobby Lashley has had no direction since HHH started booking....with Vince he was always in the main event from 2022-2022..but continue playing yourself because you fans will never ever learn
@nicktasteless360
@nicktasteless360 5 месяцев назад
i thought 2017 was still pretty good. It became really bad in 2018 and 2019. And i guess it kinda picked up in 2020 but the pandemic came in.
@growing.grounds4054
@growing.grounds4054 3 месяца назад
2018 was the worst year of sports ! You had the boring nba gsw dominating in wack fashion you had the Boston redsox lame title you had stupid eagles win the Super Bowl and wwe was horrendous
@JoeChillton
@JoeChillton 5 месяцев назад
The dog food stuff with Roman, and i wasn't even a big fan of his, was bottom of the barrel. This whole cruel joke on the wrestlers shit needed to die with the old man in charge and it seems to be gone forever now. Thank God. He drove FTR outta WWE and had them as goofs with Ucey Hot, fired ECW and killed his buzz and the whole Shorty G thing almost killed Gable's career.
@LaidBack--
@LaidBack-- 5 месяцев назад
He wasn't even a genius in the 90s either 😂😂😂 Only reason everything worked out is because he FINALLY listened to HBK and HHH to let wrestlers be more themselves than the gimmicks when Nitro and the NWO started giving them the belt 😂😂😂. They had been trying to get Vince on board before even Hall and Nash left. His money was on the line then so he had no choice but to comply. When he became the clear cut monopoly, he stopped caring what fans wanted and needed and ran things the way he always wanted and felt they should've been ran.
@realqg23
@realqg23 5 месяцев назад
oh hell nah bro called WM 31 Brock vs Roman trash, bad video im sorry
@BoxUpMyBones
@BoxUpMyBones 5 месяцев назад
You are absolutely correct. I tried to get back into it around 2017 and Midway through 2018, I had hit my limit of crap. Vince was basically going against whatever the fans wanted, and it was beyond frustrating. So many nothingburger episodes, so I stopped for about 5 years. I did watch some NXT for a while, but once VKM took THAT over, I knew it was gonna be ruined all over again. This new era with HHH is light years better. VKM needs to stay away from it forever and ever.
@Aniwazoa
@Aniwazoa 5 месяцев назад
I don't get it, what is it about making fun of Kurt Angle dating Black women that's supposed to be funny? What is the point of it? To me seeing humour in someone dating a Black woman is weird and could only make sense in the mind of someone who is profoundly racist. He dates who he dates that's it. I wish I was there to see how the Kurt Angle/Jason Jordon storyline came about.
@mrrobluxo2369
@mrrobluxo2369 4 месяца назад
After CM Punk left Vince and company refused to let wrestlers get over on their own. Stone Cold and the Rock got over on their own. CM Punk got over on his own. The best wrestlers become stars when they’re allowed to be themselves
@Zambineaux305
@Zambineaux305 5 месяцев назад
I stopped watching wrestling altogether in 2009, and with good reason 😂 It’s gotten better though. I just started watching in mid-2023. Without Vince they can definitely make major improvements- much needed improvements.
@smoking_skull
@smoking_skull 5 месяцев назад
great original video. make more of these. there arent that many channels that analyse in this way, they mostly just report shit from twitter. keep going bro. nice one
@EpicAndrew97
@EpicAndrew97 5 месяцев назад
2017-2019 wwe makes 1995 wwf watchable
@theheroinfatherr
@theheroinfatherr 5 месяцев назад
NXT (Black & Gold) carried 2017-2019
@scizorbullet8185
@scizorbullet8185 5 месяцев назад
It was the worst man I was so irritated at the time vince ruined literally everything. 2016 felt nice too with specifically smackdown it was amazing
@rusian4305
@rusian4305 5 месяцев назад
this just reminds me of seth vs the fiend in hell in a cell having a DQ lmfao I hated that shit so bad
@BiggieTrismegistus
@BiggieTrismegistus 5 месяцев назад
I honestly can't believe the Undertaker wrestled at Wrestlemania 33. I could tell just from the way he was walking that he badly needed a hip replacement.
@wingedhussar1453
@wingedhussar1453 5 месяцев назад
17 and 19 was bad becasue of the fumbles hey made years before that , from fandango to ryback to enzo they didnt deliver on making new stars and the product suffered becasue of vince mcmamhons ridicilous push pull bookings and fans got tired and attendance ratings went down
@ScottyIsHim
@ScottyIsHim 4 месяца назад
I genuinely believe the Bobby Lashley/Lana/Rusev love triangle storyline is the reason for Lana and Rusev's divorce, and I'll never forgive Vince for it. that man darn fucked a lot of things up.
@MrWaifuTaker
@MrWaifuTaker 5 месяцев назад
How the hell did I watch WWE from 2016 until 2019? I finally RQ'd with the Wyatt vs Rollins HIAC match until this year.
@booboo4ever24
@booboo4ever24 5 месяцев назад
My tap out was Jinder beating Randy for the title
@CARL_093
@CARL_093 5 месяцев назад
2017-2019 crap era
@850bigboy
@850bigboy 5 месяцев назад
i also kinda feel like in 2017 -2019 there's a lost generation of the wwe women's division when it comes to all of the women who were called up from nxt to the main roster during that time period (asuka ember moon riot squad (ruby riot liv morgan & sarah logan) mandy rose sonya deville nicki cross kairi sane zelina vega lacey evans the iiconics (billie kay & peyton royce) because at that time for the exception of sasha banks & bayley wwe were only focused on pushing charlotte becky lynch alexa bliss & ronda rousey while everybody else in the women's division had to stand in the background & fell victim to wwe's bad creative & bad booking. of course as time passed majority of those women would become champion like asuka became the only grand slam champion out of group liv morgan became a singles champion & a women's tag champion. and the rest became champions as far as the women's tag team championship
@dash1715
@dash1715 5 месяцев назад
There was so much potential to have been utilized with the women
@850bigboy
@850bigboy 5 месяцев назад
@@dash1715basically out of that whole group there was only one that became a main eventer grand slam champion & top star in wwe & that was asuka but even she still gets overlooked especially since she loss to charlotte at wm 34
@RenegadeVile
@RenegadeVile 27 дней назад
2017-2019 killed my interest in wrestling as a whole and I've not been able to get back into it since. That's howm uch damage it did.
@venomousnate7263
@venomousnate7263 5 месяцев назад
The only good thing about this area in WWE was over on NXT. Just glad things are now on the up again.
@bruceking7416
@bruceking7416 5 месяцев назад
2017-2019 were a hot stankin' [Vince McMahon ran] mess but did produce classic PPVs: - 2017 NXT WarGames - 2017 Survivor Series - WrestleMania 35 - 2019 Survivor Series... To be fair
@robertosoto2505
@robertosoto2505 2 месяца назад
I have watched this video and several others explaining why 2017, 2018 & 2019 were the worst years in WWE ever. And dude i have mixed feelings, let me explain you why. And please i would love to get a feedback: For me the darkest and worst era in WWE was the Universe Era (2009 - 2014) , it's the era that fans LOVE to call ''PG-Era'' (by that perspective Attitude Era should've been called ''TV-14 Era''). Trust me i lived that as a wrestling fan, and it was a nightmare! TNA became my #1 Wrestling Show because i couldn't stand WWE's stupidity stupidity any longer; Iconic big events with names like ''No Way Out'', '' Judgment Day'', ''Unforgiven'' & ''No Mercy'' getting replaced by ''matches stipulations''. You got ''Hell In A Cell instead of No Mercy''. Talented wrestlers like Jack Swagger, Dolph Ziggler, Drew McIntyre, Cody Rhodes, Ted Dibiase Jr, Kofi Kingston, Evan Bourne, Wade Barrett and the entire Nexus Team; getting all screwed up on rivalries with John Cena & Randy Orton, rivalries on which John & Randy ended up being the victorious ones over & over again. So my point is that eventhough 2017, 2018 & 2019 were hot garbage; on the flipside you still had NXT delivering match of the year contenders every month; unlike the Universe Era where the main roster was crap & ridiculous (like the years mentioned in this video a.k.a. Reality Era) and there was no alternative in the same company, i mean NXT on their early days was a contestants doing physical activities in a wrestling show, not the Gold & Black fire ass period like NXT from 2015-2021. Or is it probably me who's wrong because to be absolutelly honest i stopped watching WWE at all right after Wrestlemania 33 (the worst WM along with 27), New Japan Pro Wreslting became my cup of tea this time. So eventhough i was keeping an eye on WWE's storylines and great matches that people often talk about, i was an unaware to anything related to WWE back in those years. Until 2023 that i started to watch wrestling again, and found out Triple H is then new boss, NXT is an actual developmental show now, the Main Roster is filled with great matches again and organic & well executed storylines & story arcs.
@nathanembry9245
@nathanembry9245 5 месяцев назад
Obviously, when you have more womens wrestling (excluding bra n panties match), you're gonna get the wnba version of wwe
@LibraJohnny
@LibraJohnny 5 месяцев назад
Don't get me started with Shane best of the world or Lesnar destroying Strowman at Crown Jewel 2018 (I won't talk about that Main Event that's just an infamous urban legend).
@Nick_T_90
@Nick_T_90 Месяц назад
2018 and 2019 was damn near unwatchable
@Chichimee
@Chichimee 5 месяцев назад
I saw the ‘Bobby Lashley’s Sisters’ segment live in person
@HighestTrailsAbove
@HighestTrailsAbove 5 месяцев назад
Yeah 2017-2019 was bad
@PARZ90s
@PARZ90s 5 месяцев назад
John Cena got pushed for 9 years and never made a new star. Brock Lesnar returned after being away from the company for years and helped make Roman a star. Cena did a lot of damage to wrestling.
@fungunsun1
@fungunsun1 4 месяца назад
He made CM Punk a star. Who was used well for a year and then left lol.
@LadyAstarionAncunin
@LadyAstarionAncunin 4 месяца назад
As a black woman, I'm VERY glad Vince McMahon doesn't find us attractive (I'm sure Asian women feel the same) because look at what he did to women he _does_ find attractive! And as bad as what he did to them on camera was, the stuff off camera was FAR worse. I'll take being metaphorically sh_t on over being literally sh_t on. Small favors. / In any case, Jason Jordan looks biracial (don't know if he is or not, but I could guess he is) and favors Kurt Angle, so (outside of Vince's childishness and bigotry) I don't think the idea of him being Angle's son is bad in itself. It was just executed poorly (because of course it was).
@bobbyseafood2145
@bobbyseafood2145 5 месяцев назад
Wwe killing rusev day is when I officially said F this and F Vince. It wasn’t almost unwatchable. It was unwatchable. Wwe was so bad it ain’t even funny. You could even make the argument it started in 2014/2015 when the Roman baby face push started
@undertheskysoblue5477
@undertheskysoblue5477 4 месяца назад
This is an interesting take though I would expand it ~a year both ways. 2016-2020 was the worst era of WWE and I am not sure it is close in the metrics. From a house show perspective, the 2016 reign of AJ Styles (along with the 2017 Mahal reign) were up there among the lowest all-time. Ambrose wasn't far ahead of them either but was at least close to New Gen numbers. The only bright spot was ironically Roman who the IWC hated at the time. The WWE was catering hard to that very niche audience and it clearly wasn't working and was boring to watch to the point there were notorious tarp spots you could see on TV. I'd say the end of that era was when they eventually put Roman on top in August 2020. That was when things started to turn around for the better for them.
@Vergil666.
@Vergil666. 5 месяцев назад
I remember Kurt Angle having Jason Jordan take some pictures with Kurt and his family. They were also seen in public a few times together, to help sell the storyline. So Vince McMahon had this random dude do all this sht with Kurt just because he thought interracial dating was funny.....Yeah that's one of the most Vince McMahon things I've ever heard. Just imagine being Kurt and explaining that to your actual family.... "Honey why is that man following you around and why does keep joining in on family photos?" "My boss thinks it's funny"
@JoKa1013
@JoKa1013 4 месяца назад
WWE started to suck when it went to PG since 2008 due to Linda's Senate run which fucking failed and it kept getting worse.
@declangaming24
@declangaming24 5 месяцев назад
During this time it was Declining attendances for main roster shows ,part timers running the show Goldberg ,brock lesnar and WWE trying to kill all there legends in Saudi yes im talking about Goldberg vs Undertaker super show down 2019 . NXT was better then the main roster 2017-Early 2020 was WWE at its absolute worse . Brock didnt defend the universal/WWE title at most shows .
@endorama0
@endorama0 4 месяца назад
oh man 2018 - 2019 were shame years as a WWE fan, it was the worst era for the company and probably the last good one in some of our lifes, curiously
@maxcady360
@maxcady360 4 месяца назад
Agreed. WWE was unwatchable during this time period. So bad that I started watching Ring of Honor and NWA on a weekly basis instead. Ring of Honor was on it's last legs and it was far more watchable than anything what was going on WWE.
@rayray44325
@rayray44325 5 месяцев назад
oh, now we're saying it's trash, but when people were saying it back then the fanboys pretended it was all good...pathetic...
@BrotherLeegro
@BrotherLeegro 4 месяца назад
During this time period I actually started watching other companies. I’ll say Thumderdome era gave them a good reset
@LifeofWubba
@LifeofWubba 2 месяца назад
I remember my gf would see ricochet and say oh it's the same guy same match as last week. Awful booking this era.
@datruephenom
@datruephenom 5 месяцев назад
Man this era was pure hell every week. NXT was my saving grace back then, if it didnt exist I'd, most likely, not be watching anymore tbh.
@StunnedByWrestling
@StunnedByWrestling 5 месяцев назад
Yeah NXT was special. Gonna have to make a video about the black and gold era
@clint4951
@clint4951 5 месяцев назад
In my opinion, WWF (it will always be that to me), hit it's peak in the Attitude Era and after almost losing the Monday Night Wars to WCW. They lost their only real competition. Then kayfabe continued to dissolve. And then they tried to slide back to PG and the sissy "wellness policy." It's been uninteresting crap ever since.
@fungunsun1
@fungunsun1 4 месяца назад
2005-2009 also was good, and likely due to TNA competition too. TNA was putting on some banger product until Hogan era.
@JuanPabloTorres-m2b
@JuanPabloTorres-m2b 4 месяца назад
4:41 his match against Brock in 2015 was amazing, watch your mouth 😡
@ryan_fsk
@ryan_fsk 5 месяцев назад
True theyre running out of talent ,bring in guys from new japan and roh and see what happens
@Albrto2077
@Albrto2077 5 месяцев назад
They literally have an 3rd brand dedicated to finding and building young talent. How are they running out of it?
@pinroshan020
@pinroshan020 4 месяца назад
We want shane vs punk to crown the real Best in the World.
@OblivionZXZ
@OblivionZXZ 5 месяцев назад
I stopped when Randy went away. I started watching again at Survivor series. 😅
@michaelfrazier629
@michaelfrazier629 5 месяцев назад
Wrestlings worse then its ever been. It should be nicknamed the jobber era 😂
@Dwainecurtis2001
@Dwainecurtis2001 5 месяцев назад
And I thought early 2010s WWE was bad.
@brady_tyler
@brady_tyler Месяц назад
To think about it, I actually hate the 2010s as a whole.
@mo_jamma9091
@mo_jamma9091 5 месяцев назад
Imo 2015-2018 was horrifying to watch
@JamesNelson-j4j
@JamesNelson-j4j 5 месяцев назад
WWE Fans we're sick and tired of seeing part time Wrestlers like Goldberg and Brock Lesnar" coming in and Stealing the WWE championship from other wrestlers. wrestlers who deserve to be champion like Kofi Kingston. Big E. Kevin Owens and Bray Wyatt
@JamesNelson-j4j
@JamesNelson-j4j 5 месяцев назад
I agree Kofi Kingston won the WWE championship and next minute Brock Lesnar came in and stole the WWE title
@anthonylucero6650
@anthonylucero6650 5 месяцев назад
Because of Vince, but he’s not there anymore ya complaining mook😒
@cinemawithsven
@cinemawithsven 5 месяцев назад
I stopped watching in 2019 the moment they introduced the wildcard rule. Didn’t pick WWE back up until 2024
@mgtwrestling123
@mgtwrestling123 5 месяцев назад
Brock and Roman's first main event match at WM was good tho
@BiggieTrismegistus
@BiggieTrismegistus 5 месяцев назад
It was, but the Seth Rollins cash in has a lot to do with that I think. No one wanted Roman to win that watch and I think it would looked at much less fondly if he had.
@djtrankilo231
@djtrankilo231 5 месяцев назад
This period was what got me to stop watching in 2019.
@sg-zd8eb
@sg-zd8eb 5 месяцев назад
You missed the backlash after the Seth Rollins v Fiend Bray Wyatt Hell In A Cell match. Some of the wrestling RU-vidrs reactions I’ll never forget.
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