Why Yellowstone Fans Didn’t Show Up For Kevin Costner’s Horizon Flop

Подписаться 339 тыс.

Просмотров 30 тыс.

50% 1

The TJCS crew discuss the miserable box office results for Kevin Costner’s Horizon: An American Saga - Chapter 1.
Subscribe to The John Campea Show Podcast:
Spotify
open.spotify.c...
Apple podcasts
podcasts.apple...
Support the channel or submit a question for The John Campea Show using the following tip link:
streamelements...
Please support the sponsor of this TJCS segment by using the link below and/or using our promo code for a special bonus deal!
Mint Mobile | Wireless that’s Easy, Online, $15 Bucks a Month
Go to www.MINTMOBILE... for a new customer offer and your new 3-month premium wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month.
$45 upfront payment required (equivalent to $15/mo.). New customers on first 3 month plan only. Speeds slower above 40GB on Unlimited plan. Additional taxes, fees, & restrictions apply. See MINT MOBILE for details.
Watch John's new documentary, "Movie Trailers: A Love Story" available now worldwide at www.vimeo.com/o... and also available in the US and UK on Amazon Video.
Support the channel or submit a question for Open Mic using the following tip link:
streamelements...
Become a John Campea Channel Member here:
/ @johncampea
JOHN’S GEAR LINKS
Main Cameras
Sony A6400 - amzn.to/2VsMMyx
Sony A6600 - amzn.to/3bbfivl
Canon XC15 - amzn.to/3abgZY8
Mic pre-amps
Cloudlifter - amzn.to/3ckgvRa
Good Cheaper Cameras John Uses
Canon Vixia R800 - amzn.to/2yfa8zI
Logitech c920 Webcam - amzn.to/3eiul8m
Main Microphones
Rode Procaster - amzn.to/3cum1AT
Good Cheaper Mics John Uses Sometimes
Audio-Technica ATR2100x (usb and xlr) - amzn.to/34FSIID
Blue Yeti (usb) - amzn.to/2XyVZb8
Lapel Mic
FiFine (usb) - amzn.to/2VvzocW
Shotgun Mics
Rode VideoMic GO (small on camera mic) - amzn.to/34A3YX0
Rode NTG2 (main Studio mic) - amzn.to/2REkH6d
Sennheiser MKE 600 (main Studio mic) - amzn.to/3eo5boY
Soundboard/Mixer
RODEcaster Pro (main) (usb) - amzn.to/2RzozFC
Behringer Xenyx 1204USB (backup board) - amzn.to/2yf8VZn
Streaming Software
Wirecast Pro
Wirecast Control Surface - amzn.to/34DzjrG
Lights
Nanlite Lumipad 25 (main studio lights) - amzn.to/2XAeVXd
Neewer Ring Light (secondary lights) - amzn.to/2RDRoAP
FalconEyes F7 Pocketlite (background color lights) - amzn.to/3emBgNT
Selfie Ring - (guest light) - amzn.to/3a6esOZ
Show Notes Computer
iPad Pro 2020 - amzn.to/34ALhCA
Submit your topic or question for The John Campea Show here:
www.thejohncamp...
Follow John on Instagram:
/ johncampea

Опубликовано:

4 окт 2024

Ссылка:

Скачать:

Готовим ссылку...

Добавить в:

Мой плейлист

Посмотреть позже

Комментарии : 284

@elijahowens8507 2 месяца назад

I won't support it only because of how he ditched and ruined Yellowstone for everyone. Yellowstone was literally the top of his career and he screwed it up for selfish reasons. If he would have worked around Yellowstone I garentee it would have had huge support!

@XxSEETH3RxX 2 месяца назад

Top of his career? lol He didn't ditch anything. He has a right to make movie.

@berhunt 2 месяца назад

Also the shooting and all the striked and Taylor sheridans fool schedule forced him to do a move at some point.

@elijahowens8507 Месяц назад

@XxSEETH3RxX Yeah top of his career, Yellowstone was the most watched TV show 2 years in a row. He does have the right to do anything he wants and all the millions of Yellowstone fans he ditched have the right to make his movie bomb.

@cementbox4430 Месяц назад

@@elijahowens8507fake western fans

@cementbox4430 Месяц назад

@@elijahowens8507he has no obligation to anybody. I don’t fault them though.

@slowride8040 2 месяца назад

Imagine if James Gandolfini decided to dump The Sopranos after five seasons to go make his own Mafia movie. Do you think anyone would have supported that decision? 🤔

@christophersojka8840 21 день назад

Yellowstone has sucked since episode 3 season 4

@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan8419 3 месяца назад

He should have made it as a Netflix or Amazon miniseries. Cinematic Westerns haven’t had an audience in decades.

@MichaelPK03 3 месяца назад

Only movies that make money are kids movie and terrible superhero movies. Movies are dying not just westerns

@c17sam90 3 месяца назад

@@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan8419 westerns have had audiences but I don’t think the trailers sold a story or characters or something that hadn’t been done in every other western. The only thing this film was missing was a man walking into a saloon and the piano stops playing

@Ruben-so7pu 3 месяца назад

Costner not doing part two of the final season was very shitty.

@delayedsaintv2 3 месяца назад

It was 100M for 2 films part 1 & part 2

@brianhoward3645 3 месяца назад

People keep saying Yellowstone is a western… it’s not. It’s a story with characters wearing cowboys hats. The core story of Yellowstone could just as easily be set in… Hawaii… point being, just because 12 million people watch Yellowstone, doesn’t mean 12 million people are down for a real western with a 3 hour run time.

@przemekkozlowski7835 3 месяца назад

I always considered Yellowstone more of a mob crime series than a modern western.

@ryhanon7 3 месяца назад

Yeah. Breaking Bad is closer to being a western than Yellowstone is.

@careylove 3 месяца назад

Yellowstone is described as a western and drama on IMDb and Wikipedia

@maximusaurelius9906 3 месяца назад

@@brianhoward3645 Huh? It's definitely a modern day western, just like Longmire, Dark Winds, Justified and even The Mandalorian. Some shows are combined with the police procedural formula while others like Yellowstone have a greater mix of grand Shakespearean family tragedy.

@brianhoward3645 3 месяца назад

@@maximusaurelius9906 when you add “Modern” as prefix sure… although I also wouldn’t begin to consider justified a western… that one doesn’t even take place in the west… longmire is probably the closest. Don’t misunderstand, I’m not calling them bad shows. I just don’t consider them true westerns- Yellowstone especially. It’s a crime drama/soap opera. General rule of thumb- westerns take pace In the west (of course) in the years immediately following the civil war and approximately the turn of the century… my point, I know tons of folks who love them some Beth Dutton but… they couldn’t give a “rip” about John Wayne… point being, they aren’t the same audience.

@lordrayden3045 3 месяца назад

Yeah people watch Yellowstone AT HOME that’s different than going out to see a 3+ hour movie

@ebenizerbonotan4302 3 месяца назад

WeLL Horizon is A Much Better Movie than That Quite Place day one. 🧐😁👍👍

@bobhos1 3 месяца назад

I wanted to see it on Sunday. I checked every movie theater around Phoenix and it was packed at every showing. I might see it on the 4th or this weekend. Not saying Phoenix alone would make it a $100 million opening, but lots of people here went to see it

@aronscott9698 3 месяца назад

My theater was packed! I think it probably made a lot more than media wants you to know.

@maximusaurelius9906 3 месяца назад

My local theater had less than 20 presold tickets for separate screenings for all of Friday, Saturday and Sunday. My screening had about 17 people. I super disappointed, but I also had pretty big expectations.

@daveclark8337 3 месяца назад

Not everyone has Paramount+ and lots of old folks don't stream. But when CBS showed the edited Yellowstone reruns with commercials, it still pulled 5 million viewers per night.

@PapaPalps84 3 месяца назад

I went to see Horizon...loved it. I love Yellowstone too, but these are wildly different projects. Horizon is a traditional type of western, which is why I went to see it. I am not turned off my off-screen drama and will still looking forward to last part of Yellowstone

@philipho188 3 месяца назад

Someone didn't learn from Waterworld....

@nolinpowe 3 месяца назад

Oh dang I forgot about that 😆

@adamcade604 3 месяца назад

Or the postman

@rayjones8074 3 месяца назад

People need to give this movie a chance. It's a very good movie. Good story 👏. If you r a western fan u will love it. I think part 2, which comes out in August will be much better.

@JustinFeyereisen 3 месяца назад

Part 2 will do a lot worse because it isn't something people can just jump into and due to the accelerated realease won't be enough time to build a secondary audience through streaming.

@Bw899804 3 месяца назад

The Bear moved into Yellowstone to steal their Picnic Basket

@ryant3600 3 месяца назад

So sad, cause I saw it in theaters opening night and loved it.. and it left me excited for PT2. So much work went into this Saga. I think the problem in todays cinema now is marvel ruined the movie experience. Everyone seems to want instant gratification, with action, humor etc. And the fact that most films hit streaming services within a couple months of release. I grew up in Apache country and love the history good and bad of it and Pt. 1 really grabbed my attention, especially Costners attention to detail, story telling and the cinematography.. which is a huge part of the story as well. It's just beautiful.

@RYMAN1321 2 месяца назад

Oppenheimer was the same run time yet made $900 million. It was a fantastic film though

@jdg20042001 3 месяца назад

I’ll be seeing the film again this weekend.

@travisgray8376 3 месяца назад

It's 50 million for Chapter 1 and it's 50 million for Chapter 2 n he's currently filming Chapter 3 since May 13th regardless what you all think the 4 horizon movies will be made thanks to Kevin Costner and his willingness to achieve his dream project.

@calebs3203 3 месяца назад

In Tampa Bay all AMC showings have been almost sold out whenever I check, but it’s the smallest theaters at AMC.

@rss9944 3 месяца назад

NO ONE strokes the shaft as passionately as campea does

@robertsatterfield7226 3 месяца назад

The marketing for this movie was abysmal. I saw only two trailers, and they were basically the same .

@youtubeislame-c1m 3 месяца назад

I’m over the “Kevin Costner is a sad guy on a horse” movies. And at 3 hours long idk anyone who wants to sit through another one of these

@stephennootens916 3 месяца назад

That is it! There is something about his tone that just get on my nerves and you described it perfectly. Sad man on a horse.

@stephennootens916 3 месяца назад

@@peterlenham3180 There is this odd wistful tone to his voice and some of his movies. A sort of longing for the America true great glory days or something like that. Like I remember when all this land was wild and free tone.

@maximusaurelius9906 2 месяца назад

@@youtubeislame-c1m Nothing wrong with the sadman on a horse theme, but the story, plot, action and character development have all got to be part of the package. I saw the movie opening weekend and I haven't been this angry, annoyed, disappointed and left with the feeling of being lied to or disrespected since the Last Jedi.

@AntZombie121 3 месяца назад

Horizon is incredible people really should see it

@peanutturner1185 2 месяца назад

Horizon was long and boring . I was excited for horizon I bought my tickets in advance for opening weekend. I dozed off a couple times.

@joshknoll5172 3 месяца назад

I saw Horizon this past Friday, and I really liked it. It was well done and interesting. I've never seen Yellowstone, but I like westerns a great deal. I am looking forward to Part 2 in August. I do think a 3 hour western is a lot to ask people to sit through. I do feel this will find an audience when it streams and people can take breaks.

@jeshurunabinadab6560 3 месяца назад

I’m very interested in this film but the three hour run time - with it only being part 1 - was just too much for me, especially with mixed reviews. Looking forward to streaming it though, which seems is the route Costner should’ve taken to begin with.

@joshknoll5172 3 месяца назад

@@jeshurunabinadab6560 I'm glad it didn't stream. The scenery is spectacular on a large movie screen.

@ericmack001 3 месяца назад

People can watch a 3 hour film, but not a 3 hour western? I don’t understand that!

@joshknoll5172 3 месяца назад

@@ericmack001 I think because westerns attract a different demographic than say Avatar which is all spectacle and wow factor while a western is more character driven and leans towards an older audience. I feel like Horizon asks a lot from the audience like keeping track of the many, many characters and different storylines.

@emoney6692 3 месяца назад

I don’t think I’ve seen John talk about Jeremy Jahns ever since they both left Collider, but that’s a good comparison when talking about how audiences don’t always follow you to other projects.

@cementbox4430 Месяц назад

Not everyone is Taylor swift level of fans or even K-Pop fans calibre actor.

@chrissmith4188 3 месяца назад

So I’m a huge fan of Kevin Costner westerns going back to Dances with Wolves. I did go see Horizon and I liked it. Good acting, beautiful scenery and I definitely want to see what happens next. Downside…way too long for a movie. 3 hours…plus I have to go watch part 2?!?! I think this would have been a great miniseries. Break it down to 60 minute episodes instead of two 3 hour movies. I’ll give it a 7 out of 10. It’s probably be a better watch at home where you can pause it to take breaks.

@captainmofongo584 3 месяца назад

I saw the film Sunday and I can't disagree with any point you've made. This film reminded me of Steven Speilberg's 2005 miniseries Into The West. Just a sprawling Epic with a large cast of characters and plots. That and the excessive run time is better served on TV than in a theater. It's unfortunate because Costner's film is good and they don't make films like this anymore.

@tehdipstick 3 месяца назад

There's also going to be a part 3 and 4.

@captainmofongo584 3 месяца назад

@@tehdipstick How if parts 1 & 2 don't make money? I thought parts 3 & 4 were only possible if this franchise made a profit?

@tehdipstick 2 месяца назад

@@captainmofongo584 Well maybe "going to be" was poorly phrased. What I meant to say was that the story is supposed to have a third and fourth part to it as well, so people probably won't get any sense of closure to the narrative from part 2.

@amadeusesopos5962 2 месяца назад

The movie is a Masterpiece, can't wait to see chapter 2

@shaundabney4095 3 месяца назад

Older people like westerns. And older people barley go to the theaters.

@qwellen7521 3 месяца назад

Truly tragic. when Kevin Costner’s character painted that wagon red I wept.

@lpluva1 3 месяца назад

Adding a young star anyone under fifty knows would have helped, and yes a trailer that gave you something tangible and not just, old white guy goes bang bang on a horse. My dad is the demo for this movie and he's waiting for it to stream, a Kevin Costner western couldn't get my father out of his chair, and that's who they marketed to! If you're gonna pitch what seems like another prequel for Yellowstone you better give it something special. I think they were lazy, they rode the Yellowstone wave and just assumed my dad and the like were just going to come out because they were hoping for Dances With Wolves. And I do NOT want to hear some BS about people not liking westerns anymore, people like good movies and they don't care when or where they take place.

@critterfritter69 3 месяца назад

It's not a 3 hour investment. It's a freaking 4 part 12 hour miniseries.

@delayedsaintv2 3 месяца назад

Yeah 4 parts is just a bad idea kind of arrogant business move

@RYMAN1321 2 месяца назад

@@delayedsaintv2It would’ve done better as a miniseries .

@SoChillGamer 3 месяца назад

Kevin Costner is great and I love his western shows

@gregenglehart6795 3 месяца назад

I’ll wait till streaming,where I live,movie theaters and the constant cell phones going off and talking,I don’t waste my money anymore.

@LouiseRoodman 3 месяца назад

They did not show up because they are not Costner fans but Yellowstone fans. Just goes to show that Kevin is and was the ❤️ of Yellowstone.

@BackwoodBanshee Месяц назад

Hard to go respect Costner's film when everyone knows how big of a deal Yellowstone was, seems kinda crappy to leave the series with Danny Huston (Dan Jenkins) to make a genre adjacent series that probably has the same plot as Yellowstone. "I'll kill for my land, blah blah blah." More people probably would have watched it if he finished Yellowstone and gave ALL OF THE FANS a conclusive end to the John Dutton Saga... But I guess he expects us all to just forget about THAT character and relearn another... It's hard to respect that.

@aronscott9698 3 месяца назад

I’m a massive Yellowstone fan but I’m a Kevin Costner fan first! The went to see Horizon last weekend and I loved it!!!

@remyd8767 3 месяца назад

I mean was it even advertised?

@DeezWebbos1978 3 месяца назад

I mean….

@miquon4717 3 месяца назад

I didn't see a single advertisement of it anywhere

@lordrayden3045 3 месяца назад

@@miquon4717 Trailers in front of other movies I went to

@sandyh2b 3 месяца назад

I never even heard about the film until the news dropped that it flopped

@fearlesshawk92 3 месяца назад

I watched the trailer for this only this weekend bc I had heard nothing about it and had no idea what it was about. And after seeing the trailer, I can confirm. Still have no idea what it's about.

@fearlesshawk92 3 месяца назад

@MaxxRemKing1 Idk what trailer you saw, maybe I missed something. But the one I watched was just super generic western shots, few shots of Kevin's face at different angles. No scenes of any plot. Looked more like a cinematography project then a story.

@RYMAN1321 2 месяца назад

Same here It just didn’t look interesting, and I never got what it was even supposed to be about.

@juanluismendoza8655 3 месяца назад

3:20-3:45 Hasn’t John considered the reason that maybe most of RDJ’s non-MCU projects flopped was because they were just not good? Critics were pretty divided on The Judge (it has a 49% on Rotten Tomatoes) and Dolittle was just bad (15%). People will watch a movie with Robert Downey Jr if the movie is great. Just look at Oppenheimer. He was one of the most important characters in that film and the movie was beloved and people went to see it.

@gordonvshumway 3 месяца назад

First new person is perfect! Sounds very well spoken with the topics!

@dbeardsley0 3 месяца назад

I thought it was great. I'll be there for every part day one

@GOGIANTS1091 3 месяца назад

in interviews, he (Kevin Costner) has said this movie, this story is his 1883. So much so he showed the script to Taylor Sheridan before making 1883 back in 2020, 2021 (I don't know if he had conceived 1883 during that time), so much so Taylor made his version of Horizon in the Yellowstone prequel, 1883.

@emoney6692 3 месяца назад

This video is the first time I’m hearing about this movie. Also, Yellowstone fans probably don’t feel a loyalty to Costner since he didn’t show loyalty to the show for as long as he was planned to.

@ProfoundProductions 3 месяца назад

People would rather just stream it at home.

@sherrymorris5564 3 месяца назад

I’m a Costner fan and went to the theater to see part 1. I’m committed to parts 2, 3 and 4.

@JonBlier 2 месяца назад

4 ?

@mor4652 3 месяца назад

I never heard about this movie. And when I heard the title "Horizon" this week I assumed it was some sci-fi flick.

@studior2962 3 месяца назад

I didn't even know this movie was a thing

@candiffj 2 месяца назад

I will buy the whole series on Blu-Ray, but I just cant sit in a Theater anymore for that long. It has nothing to do with the movie

@lougait4362 3 месяца назад

I didn’t even know this was a movie in the theaters. I thought the advertising was for a streaming tv show

@RYMAN1321 2 месяца назад

IMO, it would’ve worked better as a miniseries

@daveclark8337 3 месяца назад

And it's getting worse. On the daily charts, Horizon has dropped behind Bad Boys 4, a Will Smith movie that's been out for 4 weeks now.

@lukelucky1311 2 месяца назад

I am done with him and the entire Yellowstone franchise’s

@Michael-Phantom 3 месяца назад

2 things... 1st, there was pretty much 0 marketing for this movie... no body in any of my circles knee about this movie. The only reason I did was because I go to the movies atleast 1 time a week and I watch all the trailers... 2nd. I did not see it because the trailer was not interesting and it is a part 1, meaning to the average person who goes to 3 maybe 4 movies per year, it is a incomplete movie. So why would I go see a incomplete movie that I have no investment in... I allrdy k iw the arguments for my 2nd point so... LOTR was 1 movie per book and had the Tolken Fanbase where this (HORIZON) is a new original IP. "But Harry Potter 7 and HungerGames 3 etc." They had other movies that lead up to a multi part finally.

@claudemoulton9210 3 месяца назад

I only saw one ad for Horizon and didn't realize it came out this past weekend. I would have gone to it.

@claudemoulton9210 3 месяца назад

@@MaxxRemKing1 I probably will be going to see it this weekend, however, the question posed by the video was why didn't anyone go last weekend.

@daveclark8337 2 месяца назад

It's still in 3300 theaters at least until Thursday July 11. And you can sit anywhere you want because the showings are empty!

@Budwiseirwin 3 месяца назад

Right on John- especially a 3 hour movie.

@RYMAN1321 2 месяца назад

Hold up. Oppenheimer was 3 hours long but still became a huge success eventually making over $900 million worldwide and winning a ton of awards. Fantastic film as well.

@LOGAN_BURNS 3 месяца назад

Why does every critics review and article read as if this movie being made is like a personal attack on them and they’re so offended by it merely existing… it’s so fucking weird to see them get so pissy about a movie he’s paid for himself and has wanted to make for ages… you’d think they’d be celebrating an artist going out on his own to tell his story he wants instead they’re trashing him and the film before anyone can see it and then wonder why and complain that cinema is dying and there no original movies…

@daveclark8337 Месяц назад

All he said was he didn't understand Costner's logic behind leaving Yellowstone's cast, crew and fans in a lurch to go try to become a Big Movie Star instead. It was bad optics and a bad strategy. At least show up for a few episodes to film some kind of an ending for the character. In hindsight, Kevin ended up having this whole year off anyway.

@PleaseWatchOurFilms 3 месяца назад

I really loved Horizon, fantastic film. Costner westerns are just my favorite type of movie. I wont be coming back for Yellowstone. I was only watching it for Costner and the show has had messy writing for a while. I think Sheradin has spread himself to thin and should have just concentrated on Yellowstone and got the scripts in on time.

@thomashoffman5745 3 месяца назад

Exactly!

@kjkesselring754 3 месяца назад

I agree with John's 3 points, but for me connected to th trailer issue was the movie's run time of 181 minutes. I think a film's marketing really has to convince casual movie fans to commit to that length of time. For example, Oppenheimer was 180 but the marketing was phenomenal or Avatar Way of Water was 192 but they marketed you have to see Pandora on the largest screen. Horizon failed to make the pitch that you have to see this in theaters rather than "I'll wait until it is on streaming to see how it is"

@aspireahead8388 3 месяца назад

You left out the biggest reason... All the early reviews tore the movie up!!!!

@CMontgomeryBurns09 3 месяца назад

Westerns haven’t been a mainstream thing for decades. Neo-westerns like Taylor Sheridan's stuff have been the exceptions rather than the rule. The genre is a dinosaur that film critics and academics gush over, not general audiences.

@raidersofsteak2227 3 месяца назад

I wonder why it’s sad to me since the genre is so good in my opinion

@stephennootens916 3 месяца назад

Film critics and academics gush over classic Western films by master filmmakers that not new movies. And they gush over them just as they do other classic films such as The Big Sleep, Gone With The Wind, Seven Samurai and White Christmas. They love them because they are classic films same as all the other general people who love them.

@johnware4616 3 месяца назад

I think the same 3 points that were mentioned. But my biggest is that Costner refused to even finish season 5 of Yellowstone and is totally ruining a great show because he didn't want to split the paycheck with his wife in the divorce. Now they're just going to have to kill off the main character some how . It's really disappointing to many fans

@thomashoffman5745 3 месяца назад

Yout are incorrect. Costner had made himself available per the agreed upon filming schedule. However the scripts had not yet been completed which pushed our filming and caused a conflict with Costners involvement with Horizon. So if you want to blame somebody, blame Sheridan and the film company for not getting the scripts completed as per the agreed upon schedule.

@daveclark8337 2 месяца назад

You can't be the writer, director, star, producer, editor, marketer and promoter of FOUR major movies filming in Utah over 4 consecutive years 2022 through 2025 and also be the lead actor in Yellowstone which shoots in Montana at the same time. Kevin made his choice.

@LukeLovesRose 3 месяца назад

This is ridiculous. Kevin Costner makes great Westerns. He just needs to stay away from science-fiction

@blacklightning7022 3 месяца назад

Honestly, the trailer left me confused about the messaging in this film, so I passed on it. I have actually been getting into more Westerns because my Dad loves them, but the trailer almost felt like they were vilifying the Natives for trying to stop them from moving west. I wasn't really feeling that, and I know some of the people I shared the trailer with felt the same, so we passed on that. If I hear that's not what it's about, then I'll catch it down the line on streaming.

@scaredy-cat2215 3 месяца назад

I’d say just watch the movie lol cause that’s not the case. But I could see how one could be skeptical. But this movie was not made to vilify people in simple ways

@billallen4382 2 месяца назад

I think it’s no more complicated than loyal Yellowstone fans feeling ditched by Costner.

@SirRome-tg1df 3 месяца назад

There's too many competition of movies out there. Therefore the movie wasn't too excited to go see on the top list for movie fans.

@c17sam90 3 месяца назад

I don’t think the film was a total disaster but I kinda feel like if it was on TV it would have been better served. After 3 hours I don’t feel the characters or story were even that well established or set up. That being said I will see part 2 to see if there is any resolution. But unless parts 3 and 4 are completely generational so like Star Wars or probably more easily comparable Roots 3 and 4 have a brand new generation of characters. I find it difficult believing it will have a satisfying conclusion or if I’m even going to get a conclusion. If you look at IT and Dune that they shot not knowing if Part 2 was going to happen part one tells mainly a complete story. This felt like the Chessboard had been opened up but not all the pieces were on it yet. And after 3 hours I feel you need to at least set up the board completely and move some pieces.

@conncoll06 3 месяца назад

Because it’s a movie and not a TV show. Simple as that

@RYMAN1321 2 месяца назад

It probably would’ve worked better as a miniseries

@henryhill6637 3 месяца назад

Should of went to stream bottom line . Nobody wants to sitin a theater in a movie for 3 hours anymore especially at ticket prices. I give credit to Costner has balls.

@JustinFeyereisen 3 месяца назад

Jon you are spot on but that is a fraction of the problem. Don't forget a three hour run time and this is a part one so doesn't have a proper ending. It also got largely negative reviews due to it runtime, multiple storylines that don't cross over (yet) and Costner not even showing up until an hour into the film. I'm a big fan of westerns and Costner and had high hopes for the film, but was slightly disappointed. The story seems to me that it would work better as a miniseries and I personally believe it has potential to be a big hit when it hits streaming and the audience can break it up into something more digestible.

@maximusaurelius9906 3 месяца назад

I'm a fan of both Yellowstone and Kevin Costner and I was foolish enough to go see this disaster of a movie in the theaters. I mistakenly thought based on the trailers and scenes shown in Costner's talk show circuit promos that this was basically going to be his version of the Yellowstone limited series spinoff 1883, which I consider to be a masterpiece. And it does appear to be just that. The problem is that the subpar writing, the minimal character development, the limited action and wasted prolonged camera shots of the landscape just dragged the movie down. It was boring and massive disappointment. One of the worst movies of the year and one I regret wasting my time on. Chapter 2 could turn out to be the best movie ever made but would never bother going to theater to watch it. I haven't been this angry of disappointed in a film since the Argyle and the before that episode 8 of the Star Wars films. What makes it even worse is that Kevin Costner intentionally damaged and basically ended Yellowstone which was a top 5 show of mine for past 5 years. While it is true that Costner should make the decisions that he feels are best for him or true to his heart, there is something to be said about the responsibilities of being the main star on a TV series, especially a hit series. The show is about his character, his ranch, his children, his enemies, his allies, his employees, his family's history. While it may not be a big deal to him to walk away from the show and basically end it, it does for other actors and crew members who may never be on another project that has been this successful for this long. All of Costner's biggest career accomplishments with regards to critical acclaim, fan response and box office are all behind him. For some of Yellowstone's cast members, this show may be there most successful job and for it to end because your lead actor just couldn't care less is a shame.

@dwarfpoacher 3 месяца назад

Nice try Taylor

@daveclark8337 3 месяца назад

Not a Yellowstone fan. But if like James Gandfolfini, Jon Hamm or Bryan Cranston had just up and left halfway through the final seasons of The Sopranos, Mad Men or Breaking Bad, I wouldn't support their work anymore either.

@sandrokucnica2490 3 месяца назад

Kevin costner representa al hombre fuerte de estados unidos de esa epoca 1800 en adelante el espiritu genuino de los cowboys y los pioneros...!!!saludos de patagonia argentina.!nuestra historia es muy parecida a la de estados unidos! Dios los bendiga

@TheShismo 3 месяца назад

I saw this movie opening day, and there were a handful of great scenes. But I believe this movie has some major problems. The story structure is fragmented into three pieces with three separate stories. They may all head in the same direction eventually but as of now it’s a lot to take in and understand clearly. Having one clear standout story as the lead may have been the better play. Then bring in the other key characters after the main story is established

@isaacmartinez6904 3 месяца назад

I saw this movie last Friday and it was alright. Even though the theatre wasn't pack, but it had like 20 people. So it's not bad.

@alexprinsrealestateagent1263 3 месяца назад

I’m 37 and watch movies almost everyday. I’ve never watched a Western movie before or had the desire to 😬😬😬

@JustinFeyereisen 3 месяца назад

Watch Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence, and the 2010 version of True Grit.

@darkningcell 3 месяца назад

One trailer was released and it told nothing about the film. I even forgot it was releasing.

@rmac1828 3 месяца назад

Costner's hubris led him to this

@shanekeenaNYC 3 месяца назад

Costner tries to revive the western genre for no reason.

@ericmack001 3 месяца назад

I do not think people have a problem with going to see a western! I believe people want to see good movies period. Clint Eastwood made awesome westerns! Unforgiven is one of my favorite films. Plus people are always saying Hollywood doesn’t do anything original anymore. Kevin Costner took a dump on Yellowstone by leaving the show the way he did. Taylor Sheridan is also doing a western about the fall of the Comanche Indians! I’m really looking forward to to seeing the movie!

@TNFTAW 3 месяца назад

Yellowstone is a better western with a better cast and more compelling story that we're already invested in and optics would have us believe that Costner chose Horizon over it, basically spitting on fans.

@thomashoffman5745 3 месяца назад

Uhhh Yellowstone is not a western buy any sense of the definition. It's a modern day drama series. Ha e you even seen Horizon. I suspect you haven't, thus your statement about it being not as good as Yellowstone is completely moot.

@careylove 3 месяца назад

@@thomashoffman5745Yellowstone is described as a western and drama on IMDb and Wikipedia

@thomashoffman5745 3 месяца назад

@careylove Well they are wrong. It has nothing to do with the western genre.

@ryant3600 3 месяца назад

That's just ignorant. First Costner signed onto Yellowstone for just 2-3 seasons top, he extended it cause Taylor and the studio basically begged him to stay on, and in doing so, he had to push all his other projects back years.. He's not getting any younger and he stayed on for the fans.. But it was past time for him to move on. Yellowstone is coming to an end anyway, but to hate on him and say he spit on the fans is absurd.

@daveclark8337 2 месяца назад

The popularity of Yellowstone made Kevin think he could become a Big Leading Movie star again. Reality just smacked him off his high horse and it's going to be a long hard fall, dragging out to August 16 and beyond.

@marcosdheleno 3 месяца назад

the thing about jeremy and the colider show was also the fact there was already a big portion of viewers who watched both. so the overlap meant there wasnt much to gain(in terms of audience numbers) because they were already there to begin with.

@chrisfreeman6819 3 месяца назад

I didn't know it was out

@rogergraham5092 Месяц назад

I went with a friend and did not want to get up and walk out, but this was the worst movie I have ever seen! Afterwards she agreed.

@rustyspurproductions 3 месяца назад

I’m tired of projects that have no end. The story lines never get a resolution. And while I want to go see Horizon (because I love westerns) it’s not finished. Why get invested in a story if there isn’t going to be a conclusion?

@thedefinitionisthis 3 месяца назад

Well, there is going to be a conclusion... Its' just gonna be in another movie.

@rustyspurproductions 3 месяца назад

@@thedefinitionisthis I hope there is. But my understanding was they’ve only shot 4 days of the 3rd movie. They have to raise money to finish it. And with an opening like this, that is going to be very difficult. Again, I hope they pull it off. I’ve loved all of Costner’s westerns.

@daveclark8337 2 месяца назад

@@thedefinitionisthis It's Day 10 for Horizon and it's already petering out at $22 Million. They spent $140 Million, so they're going LOSE $100 Million. Nobody in their right mind is going to invest another $200 mil to make parts #3 and #4.

@jeffprentice629 2 месяца назад

its 3 hours long.

@LSTL1748 2 месяца назад

time flies

@XxSEETH3RxX 2 месяца назад

Lord of the Rings is over 3 hours. There are many movies 3 hours. So what?

@jeffprentice629 2 месяца назад

@@XxSEETH3RxX nobody is going to sit and watch a 3 hour movie about gay cowboys eating pudding. If you want people to go and sit the there that long you better make something special. There was a reason Barbie was under 2 hours but people would still go see Oppenheimer at 3 hours. Napoleon was almost 3 hours and made by one of our great living directors but not very good so nobody went to see it.

@XxSEETH3RxX 2 месяца назад

@@jeffprentice629 Sounds you know a lot about gay cowboys. Must be projecting

@LSTL1748 3 месяца назад

I love YS and I think Horizon is fantastic!! Really FANTASTICYou are full of yourself. Look at all the interviews. People in my audiance stood up and clapped!

@2011blueman 12 дней назад

Did you go to a private viewing with costner because everyone with me thought it was terrible. Some people walked out during hour 2 and that was the smart move.

@keaton3174 3 месяца назад

You left out the fact that it's part one of a a purposed like 3-4 part series and is 3 hours long. If people are on the fence about a project that definitely put a lot of them off knowing it's not a complete story at that length.

@ComedyTragedy12 3 месяца назад

The film looked like shit in the trailer. No action no bad guys no shoot em ups. It didn't look like a western it looked like a movie about people who lived out west back in the day. The fact that he's already written the next three movies is pathetic

@LukeLovesRose 3 месяца назад

And?? Why do you have to have shoot em up? Ever see How The West Was Won?? Thats a great film and it has very little gunslinging

@LSTL1748 2 месяца назад

So lol, it's been proven you're wrong! That aside what bothers me about YS: Taylor lets Kevin get the blame, what a coward, a great writer, but he doesn't take responsibility for his own mistakes: the first delay lasts a year, doesn't have the script even after the strike , leaves people with other responsibilities hanging, Kevin still had YS as number one, but had to start Horizon as well. Taylor knew, but didn't bother contacting Kevin when K. reached out. NO, he lets social media make up their own story and hides behind it. WOW bad attitude sir, you are a great writer but have a huge personality problem. You'll have to deal with it one day, I'm sure.

@daveclark8337 2 месяца назад

Kevin is the one who kept saying in interviews over the last 2+ months that he "might come back...blah , blah, blah,,,," when he knew damn well since 2022 he was Never goiing back. Instead he'd tried to string the Yellowstone fans along in hopes they'd show up to his movie. Paramount+ finally got sick of it and warned him "If you don't tell them the Truth, we Will." So Kevin went on IG and announced he was NOT going back. And here we are, only $22 Million in box office after 10 days, a MAJOR flop.

@LSTL1748 2 месяца назад

No, you keep believing social media lies. They pick one sentence and put it out of the context. Thruth: Kevin always planned YS as number 1, but wanted to work in the empty time wich was more then a year! Brought that to the table, that's it. Social media makes up there own stories, but Taylor knew ;& didn't talk.

@2011blueman 12 дней назад

He decide to destroy the Yellowstone series by leaving to make Horizon, and it's a terrible film. When the main character in a beloved show decides to leave it you should expect the fans of the show to upset. My thoughts going into the movie were that this better worth losing one of my favorite shows. Sadly, it's probably the worst movie I've seen in a decade at least. I was shocked because I'd liked or loved pretty much every movie he's been in until now. I even loved Waterworld.

@bobbyvee9950 3 месяца назад

I don't know when the review embargo was lifted but I think it was last minute. A rotten tomato critic score ot 44% couldn't have helped.

@sstorey79 3 месяца назад

Bad reviews, bad trailer, a western in theaters in 2024, and the yellowstone debacle. Just a mix of bad things surrounding it. I mean, how can Sheridan and Costner not even work out a deal where Costner comes back for one day to be killed off properly on screen?

@ahorsewithnoname773 3 месяца назад

$100,000,000 budget is too big for Western staring a 70 year old actor. Nothing about that screams massive appeal with general audiences, before even getting into the terrible marketing for the film.

@travisgray8376 3 месяца назад

It's 100 million for two films. 50 million per film.

@StultifiedGraphics 2 месяца назад

i don't mind a long movie, i don't mind a western, and i love Costner but its about balance right now. People are very picky about what they're gonna watch at the cinemas, For me i want to watch this, BUT i have kids, and school holidays, Which means that Despicable me and inside out 2 will have to for me take precedent over watching this. I just cant afford to watch all these movies, Also we got Deadpool coming out which i have been anticipating more then Horizon. I dont care about whats happening with yellowstone, sure i want him back but thats not gonna influence my decision to watch a good movie.

@JamesBond-ke5tp 3 месяца назад

Yellowstone isn’t a western, it’s a mobster show set in the west.

@stephennootens916 3 месяца назад

No it is a neo Western.

@JamesBond-ke5tp 3 месяца назад

@@stephennootens916 if you take the western setting and motifs out of the show and dropped the characters in New Jersey, it would still be the same show.

@ericmack001 3 месяца назад

Taylor Sheridan is a really good writer!

@boblebeau9260 3 месяца назад

I get Western and Godfather vibes from it

@mattsmoviemagic8123 3 месяца назад

I haven't seen the film yet but I heard another big issue people was it's depictions of Native Americans *specifically the Apache featured in the film. These Days There's Always The Matter In How Native Americans Are Portrayed In The Western Genre. Either The Evil Savage OR The Noble Savage. Both Can Be Equally Misleading & Badly Influencing To Audiences When Depicted In Either Extreme.

@scaredy-cat2215 3 месяца назад

I haven’t heard that as an issue from anyone who has seen it. I didn’t have that issue neither did my buddy. Not saying that can’t be an issue for some who hopefully actually watched it. But I just hope people see the film and decide for themselves lol 🤷🏻‍♂️

@mattsmoviemagic8123 3 месяца назад

@@scaredy-cat2215 Totally Agree. I plan on seeing the film and judging it for myself. Unfortunately, with social media we live in this rumor mill based society where we formulate our beliefs on rumors, group think pressure and what is & what is not popular or acceptable by peer pressure standards. THINK FOR ONE SELF.

@777tercera 3 месяца назад

I don't know "Kevin" making a "western" should be for me enough of a spark to kindle my interest regardless of any trailers. Yet, I've lost in general the interest of going to the theater. I blame the Disney (Starwars/Marvel-joking, well sort of). After their declined in quality, I feel in general the cost and hassle of going to a theater is just not worth it.

@apok1980 3 месяца назад

I would say the 4th reason. Which is movies in theaters are no longer what they used to be. I’ll usually say I’m going to see this in theater for like 3 movies a year. Everything else, I’ll catch it in streaming or something at some point. Most of these movies feel like they’re streaming a month later anyways.

@Grimbear13 3 месяца назад

I saw it and kind of wish I was watching it at home. The whole time it felt like a TV series smashed together and thrown on the big screen. The pacing and how the writing was would have felt much better to me as episodic. I'm not sure if I'll go to the theaters to see part 2 or will just wait for it to stream cause I think it'd be a much better experience at home when I can come and go as I please.

@franciscolumbreras7116 3 месяца назад

How you gonna leave Yellowstone just to make a movie thats basically 1883!?!

@travisgray8376 3 месяца назад

Yellowstone didn't have scripts for 18 months and Costner had already scheduled it in between but they couldn't film cuz there is no scripts.

@ericmack001 3 месяца назад

Horizan is NOT 1883! Taylor Sheridans writing is important!

@ericoffill3697 3 месяца назад

I saw Horizon last night. Its... really dull. Even the movie didn't know what the story really was. I honestly think Chapter 1 is a prequel to Chapter 2.

@dwarfpoacher 3 месяца назад

Is that how prequels and chapters work? Makes sense.