Why You Need a Volume Pedal! 

i'm deaf so i can only relate to this.

I like to wave to the pedals 👋

Gosh!

Timestamp please, I missed that part and can't watch it all again.

@@rootsradical just watch the part from 0:00

FOLLOW UP: they are nearing wah sales on reverb

I see what you did there

That speaks volumes.

Thank god I have my brother's

That’s a swell comment

Please!!!!!!

@@carminenevills6327 I think he's buying all of them first, then he's going to dump them on Reverb after he drops the video...

This is not a drill

James Hoffman just started his mythical Aeropress series, so anything is POSSIBLE!

It's definitely a sickness

I wish I knew this soooooo long ago, now to make/find that splitter cable!

Makes me glad I held off adding to my new board. I concur. This video is a must watch.

That's a clever trick! I'm not sure whether the sweep range is particularly good tho: Don't regular expression pedals utilize linear potentiometers?

@@tomlang1005 Look for an insert cable (TRS -> 2x TS). They are usually used for insert effects (send/return) on consoles.

With some pedals a normal mono cables from the output of the volume pedal to the expression in works as well! The TRS method definitely works, but you might not actually need one. Just try it and see if it works. I used my Ernie Ball VP JR to control a Line6 Helix I borrowed for a gig once because the Helix pedal was terrible...

(That’s why they do it

Steve howe also a master at volume swells.

Steve Hackett...

Came here to say this. The start of the slow-build solo in La Villa Strangiato (esp. the live version on Exit Stage Left). Perfection.

XANADU

Jan Akkerman of Focus did the most beautiful volume swells imo. He used the volume pot though.

Totally agree with Nick’s drumming. I kept thinking during this whole episode how much credit he’s due because not only is he really good, his kit sounds amazing. And the brush work on the Prairie Dog jam was fantastic.

It was ‘amazing’? It left you astonished and in pure wonder?

I heard it's a really good input butter too. Someone smart told me that. I forgot who...

@@danmorrison8746 the buffer is "butter" ;)

@@VertexEffectsInc input butter is the new input buffer. 🤣 Just let's everything slide on through.

@@RobertNolan Can you tell the difference between Stork and butter?

And I'm sure some of the sounds created prior to mastery are cool as well.

Gary Louris from the Jayhawks does that

Do you remember where he placed it in the chain?

@@ZachisSublime All I can remember is he used little or no other effects going into a Fender amp. I doubt if he used any overdrive, distortion or fuzz while using the volume pedal.

Rhett Shill?

@@DMSProduktions I know what a skull is, but what's a rhett?

The Rig Doctor just built a new pedalboard for Rhett Shull, so I think if anything he'd swap out a pedal rather than add one... To learn what a Rhett is, you need to watch or read "Gone With the Wind." Both Rhetts are from Georgia, but the one in the movie is a bit older than the other, since he served with a B-17 group in England.

@@Ndlanding LOL!

Surely, if you put a volume pedal in the effects loop it acts like a remote control of the master volume?

Holy crap! I didnt expect to see you in an effects pedal comment thread! Do you make guitars too? I'd kill to see you make a luthiery for humans series!!!

I'm still hoping someone makes a compilation of all the jams they make. They're the highlights of his videos for me.

@@dhauz___7855 He said in the video they were all available.

I second all of the above 😊

Me too

🤣

I say, thank goodness you're not a Josh clone. One Josh goes a long way. Having two might break the space-time Continuum. Enjoy the heck out of your little multi treadle.

Buy an Ernie Ball volume pedal and rewatch the video. You are welcome. (I'm very happy about by little red btw, as a volume at least, small on the board and does the job.)

Won't happen often, apparently only if you use volume/wah combos. Otherwise, he turns no pedal away.

@@christopherkennedy873 what are the chances? 😂

Good idea

Yeah it's just a home made master V right?

I put it in the loop, great swells!...especially first and then all the other effects....

Yup, I have a Marshall SV20 coming this week that is gonna get that treatment. And before people start howling at me about power tube OD, you are wrong, that's actually PI tube OD. Power tube distortion sounds bad.

I was thinking of cranking the master volume and using the vol pedal for control. That way I'll never be drowned out again.

it's not really that much of a secret since even the cheap chinese volume pedals get sold as "combo volume/expression pedals" these days ;)

I thought you were going somewhere else with this story, but ok then

@@b.scottfarthingsworth - Totally. Swelling.....girlfriend's basement.......Zeppelin....all the ingredients were there.

And I always thought this was a CHINESE song about soup... who knew?

@@DMSProduktions You are thinking of The Dim Sum Shuffle.

@@christopherweise438 Except according to Demone, “... And five, now this is the most important, Rat. When it comes down to making out, whenever possible, put on side one of Led Zeppelin IV.” But Rat was playing Kashmir in the car. So there was a definite PG nod.

I will neither confirm not deny doing that in church before.

Rofl!

Yes. 🤣

As someone who’s done sound work for local shows before, every sound guy hates you for this. We will 100% cut your mix down extra just to punish you. Trust your sound guy.

@@nickspence5977 haha , i always ignored the sound guyz, they were busy trying to get drunk and or laid and barely did their jobs at the gigs ive done. So i just cranked the amp up way louder than soundcheck. Thats how I get off

Truth! Just need an adapter cable. I had no clue

And they work well. Ernie ball has such a nicer feel than a M-Audio.

Will this work with any pedal with an expression jack?

@@PedalChainsAddiction if the exp input is trs, then yes.

@@PedalChainsAddiction so, not line6. They’re usually mono.

Awesome !!

Hell yea man! I did that a couple times. Even had a di box after it and split it again. It gets crazy.

I'm interested! Care to share how you route your signal? Thx in advance!

@@xebio6 one example: i have a cheap chinese stereo tremolo pedal that works as a buffered splitter when it's turned off. behringer stereo chorus is another example of a cheap pedal that can do that, or just buy a designated splitter. my amp has a second input jack for mp3-players and phones. so I split the signal with whatever stereo pedal or buffered splitter i have lying around, then my "dry" line goes into the normal amp input and the other goes into a 10€ passive DI box (maybe optional? but changes impedance to line level) and then into the 3,5mm input jack of my amp. ofc if your amp doesn't have 2 line ins you could just use a mixer before the amp, or use 2 amps, or go from the di box into any other speakers with a line input you have lying around, a cheap bluetooth box with a 3,5mm jack might even do. or run both chains into an audio interface and let the computer do the mixing...

@@KrumpusPlunk Ok, I'm assuming your volume pedal is at the end (or maybe start) of the "effected" line? Also, would this work using the return input in the back of my amp for the effected line + volume pedal? Thx again!

@@xebio6 as long as you don't have a drive pedal in the fx chain, the placement of the volume pedal does not matter. if you plug anything into your fx loop return, the preamp will be bypassed so that won't work... could try a passive a-b-y pedal, those are cheap to get.

GH song = money well spent

OR suck your treble I'm guessing!

SOunds like just the thing for my kitchen! Can you use it to pan, too?

@@Ndlanding pot is short for potentiometer

@@Saxby8six And "pan" is short for panorama. And IQ is what you are short on.

No, no pot to get dirty. Just a cheap plastic strip with opto electric cells , that you can’t fix when the cheap plastic strip breaks or folds. No thanks, I have a forty year old Morley still waiting to work again. Paid over a hundred for the pos.

What is Grean Dag?

@@TheRealcdawg22 The band in which Belly Goe Jamstrong sings and play guitar

It cracks me up when demos or shows highlight fuzz pedals only to spend an hour demonstrating how clean they can sound lol

old timers like me might call it a "channel insert"

@@samnichols4692 Hey Sam. You may or may not already know this, most of us old guys do. But I wanna flesh it out for anyone that might be confused, as these cables Can be confusing if you don't know what they're trying to do. They look a lot like standard Y-Cables, and the beginner probably assumes that TRS jacks are either for Balanced Mono connections, or Unbalanced Stereo, but may not have encountered Unbalanced Send-n-Return. I was referring to the specific Y-Cable he showed in the video. It has a single 1/4"-TRS jack on 1 end, and it 'why's out' to two 1/4"-TS jacks on the other. They're sold, or built as "Insert Cables" as when the TRS side is plugged into a Channel Insert on a mixing console, it breaks the channel's internal signal-flow, 'sends' the signal out either the tip or the ring of the TRS jack, the signal can be processed by "Outboard" gear, and 'returns' the signal on the other (ring or tip). The Shield of all three jacks are tied together, so common ground. The TRS-Tip is tied to one TS-Tip (A). The TRS-Ring is tied to the other TS-Tip (B). Depending upon which way the Insert Jack was wired on the mixer, (A) or (B) get plugged into the Unbalanced input and output of whatever Outboard processor. Insert Cables are also Re-purposed for a number of other tasks, such as in this video. A common one being splitting out a Stereo headphone jack to separate Mono left and right (or 1 and 2) for any number of reasons. (Recently used that from the TRS Headphone out on an Apollo Twin x, with the volume all the way up (line) into dual TS jacks, patched into the dual TRS- LR inputs on the Stereo channels of an Solid State Logic SiX. The result is a studio grade tracking and mixing system, UA & SSL, in a backpack. (Well, carry-on size Pelican, with iLoud MTMs. Unbelievable. )

Since the mod makes the VP Jr active and is now buffered, where is it in your chain? Mine is in at the front after my tuner

Down AT Subway!

Volume pedal plus a slide, a little ‘verb and delay is so good.

Sweet!

I do believe "violining" was invented in the 60s.

Impedances can make a difference depending on your use case: - High impedance (>200k): Whenever you plug a guitar directly into a volume pedal, so your guitar sees a properly high input impedance. A low impedance pedal would probably make your guitar sound pretty dull here. - Low impedance (~10k): If you're using the volume pedal after any other pedals, buffers or in the fx loop a low impedance pedal is better. A high impedance one would certainly work here but the sweep is likely to be very uneven. - Bonus: Active volume pedals: They have a buffer built in, so it doesn't matter where you place them as long as it's not in front of a vintage fuzz.

nah when the volume pedal is in the open position, the impedance is next to zero in all cases. the potentiometer just defines how steep the volume ramp is.

@@KrumpusPlunk There still is a noteworthy impedance to ground, regardless of the pedal's setting. 10k to ground is pretty significant in comparison to the output impedance of a guitar. You can easily try this yourself: Try plugging a guitar (with passive electronics) straight into a 10k volume pedal without any buffers in between and you will notice a difference, i.e., lack of definition and treble.

@@error8418 I would still argue that the most important aspect is that a bigger potentiometer would give you a steeper volume ramp. how much is the residual R of a pot that's completely open? this can hardly be a bigger factor than the completely open volume pod on the guitar, since those are usually 250k-500k, are they not? also, what's the reason the sweep would be uneven with a high-R volume pedal? also, say we have a 50k and a 200k volume pedal, wouldn't both act exactly the same way if you only used the first quarter of travel on the 200k pedal?

@@KrumpusPlunk Except the fact that a volume pot is not just a variable resistor but usually works like a variable voltage divider. 500k to ground like you would find in a guitar has much less influence than 10k to ground. And here everything else starts to make a difference as well: The output impedance of whatever is before the volume pedal and the input impedance of whatever follows the volume pedal - we are basically dealing with a LOADED voltage divider here. And therefore, the volume pedal's impedance might result in an uneven sweep. (Also, don't forget the pot's taper.)

Damn I have the T.R.S cable with two T.S ends into a EHX Grand Canyon into that same volume pedal and it doesn't work. As soon as I touch the tip on the T.S end it goes silent. My electrician made the cable especially for me. Awwww