why you NEED math for programming 

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Yeah

Dude I saw Joma class website and it looks like need maintenance or something . Also you just look like ramanujan in this video.

So what books would u recommend?

hmm so you are alive....

Lol 😆

wiser words have never been said

Well said

As someone who had an assignment for C language in uni, this is so so true😂

the Gpt3 prompting just became a sport

It that why you are dead inside ?

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ha ha

I am much better than you, I am used to crying in front of people

Anis I do programming under shower 😜

This has to be the most underrated yet most relatable comment here 😂❤

thisssss!

They top genius

both languages are syntactic sugar for c language not assembly language directly

@@ahsanhussain9916 I have no idea what you just said but it sounds correct

Could you give me an example of a day to day use? Just curious!

nah you're just too much into a niche that uses algebra heavily. Normal people won't ever need algebra in their lives

@@acreature4 once I had to model data about documents and they needed to be distributed in a way that they are tightly clustered at first and more spread out as the dates go into the past. We ended up using a logarithmic function to model the data.

@@daniellima4391 basic algebra isn’t high level math. It can be used for a lot of everyday things. Like for example, let’s say that you have a purchase in a state with a sales tax of 8.25% that with tax cost 17.68 and you needed to find the cost before tax and you didn’t have the receipt. You can solve it very easily by setting up the basic algebra equation and then move the pieces around to solve for x where x is the original price. Other than that, algebra isn’t so much about numbers as it is about breaking up a big problem into multiple smaller problems and working through each of these step by step. I honestly will never understand how people hate math so much. It’s literally black and white. There is one right answer. Not like literature where there are so many gray areas of interpretation. Math doesn’t lie. It’s just so sad that everyone relies on a computer or calculator to figure everything out for them. It means they can’t be self sufficient without a device to augment them. Granted I guess that has allowed scientists to reach even greater levels of achievement while making the common man progressively more stupid.

Sir can you please tell about topics which you find are necessary in your job

@@zainabe9503 Yea.

On the flip side though: when you do need it, it is immensely easier to re-teach yourself when you have already learned it before. Not quite like riding a bicycle, but once it starts to come back to you it is much less frustrating than trying to teach yourself from scratch just to implement some obscure function buried in your project.

I just forgot everything rn i didn’t go to school for year 8 or 9 i can’t remember but i didn’t go to school half of the year i just forgot how maths works

if you learned it at that time, it shouldn't be that hard to recall it.

@@zainabe9503 the best thing isn't to memorize a bunch of formulas. The best thing to remember something, is to understand it conceptually. The brain does away with details, but not with understanding.

Yah this is amazing

No estado terminal, um donut é um buraco com um biscoito na borda 😳😜😂😂

@@FernandoCosta-vf8lq vdd

rotating donut*

Yeah they should legit teach it to hs kids as a fun side project for AP computer science. It could go hand and hand with the calc BC or AB (whichever math they might be taking) + linear algebra. *__* nvrm mostly privileged Silicon Valley kids will be able to do it… and Asian kids prolly. (Since most of America I think learns up to calc and not Lin algebra) It looks like it could fit into as a college side project for graphics class… not sure if it is advanced enough for that… blah blah getting lost of my thoughts.

The real power comes when you can turn those loops into vectorized operations and suddenly your program speeds up by factor 1000x

Huh

So big o performance

Keep it simple and avoid nesting)

we have a tiny little problem about it, code in this video was written in C, and C is not an object oriented

nerd!!

@@ahmetkaangumus9724 Oh yeah that's a huge problem. Isn't there any way to add an algorithm to THEN treat it like a sort of "pseudo-object"? I've heard of stuff like that being done before, especially since C is a low level language, programming an entire new set of instructions for JUST treating it like an object doesn't feel like a monumental task. Correct me if I'm wrong

@@oceanicmage I havent heard of it, but when we think on this; most probably there is a way to do this as you said. I'm not that professional

​@@oceanicmageyou can group functions and variables, that's how classes are treated, but you would basically need to write object oriented extension to c

Fun Fact: "Hölle" in German means Hell So Holle World = Hell World

@AbdulAziz Muhammad Rafiq noop! A=Hello world Print"A" Hello world

@@ganavlalawat5058 lmao that would have printed 'A' as output in python

@@computertesting6110 Ahh sorry and thx for correcting me. I think i forget to put " "

@@ganavlalawat5058 You're supposed to print it as a variable not the letter itself

Is your dad named Joma?

Lol

You'll likely regret the liberal arts decision, I know I do. Good luck, tho :)

@@lbb2rfarangkiinok I know I did. Now I'm in CS and I have no idea what I'm doing.

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Same xD

It’s lots easier to learn the required math when you’re in context! In isolation the math is crazy

Same lol

100% right

and even then it's usually very specific areas of math, and the majority of school math (let alone university level) will be irrelevant. HOWEVER i think that becoming a good programmer is correlated with the ABILITY to comprehend math (even if you've never put this ability to much use). in the sense that your brain should be capable of dealing with abstract concepts, and this is sort of common for both fields. it's like being a surgeon vs. playing a violin. one doesn't really help the other, but having dexterous, well coordinated fingers is probably useful in both of these fields.

Okay so which type of programming takes less maths? Like i fuking hate maths 🥺

@@wondersoul9170 yaa dude I love maths if I understand but it’s very hard to understand…My mind just stop’s

What about the mindset? Don't the logic skills, critical thinking, and planning capacity would be the same if you just were self-taught?. I contend that the level of training you achieve in math, physics or engineering is translated into almost anything you do making you hyper competent. Programming specially

My first thinking when it moves, wtf

I know that the joke is that doesn't seems like the great thing but that donut is not easy to make. Respect the coding behind.

@@tanmaydeshpande Man, That's simply amazing, I hope I could get to that point someday

it's incredible even for non-beginners developer lol

Me, a professional: IT STILL FUCKING IS

It worth it

@Yize Dai ?!?! You don't like don- _Your rights to all things good have been revoked_

@Yize Dai thats why we eat dough

@Yize Dai I gave up donuts. thought I had totally kicked the desire to ever have a donut again (thanked folks for bringing them in, cause nope, not going there). Then found a shop that was so oldschool, even the smell was heavenly. At that point I realized, I only gave up subpar donuts. So maybe keep an open mind. however I agree, most not worth it, until it is (oh, the fluffy goodness). Still limit intake, because yep, not the heathiest snack, but in moderation even fried lumps of dough can be good fo rthe soul.

@Yize Dai what?? aw man that sucks :(

Explain the logic, please

@@ramboog2654 Let me try. You basically make a donut by rotating a circle around the y-axis (There is a special formula for this.). Then you rotate every single point in the x-y direction in corresponding to every other point for the the animation. Lastly, u do some math for the lightning to add to the the realism. Hope u got it.

@@navruznazarbekov1246 is 110iq enough to make a donut?

@@testtestsson4927 i dont even know dude🤣

I need your brain please. My match teacher is killing me

math has always thought me how to be patient and helped me to become a faster learner

is it ok if i google for programing?

@@reynaldy_al I don't think there is a single person who doesn't google while programming

I almost switched out my major because I'm required to take calculus courses up to calc 3 along with statistics. It's so unnecessary.

@@miraim4384 wow.. you know, in my country, when we take university that built by goverment, the programming use the test that use math as is subject priority. we must take likes 1 year or 2 years periods/semster to learnt calculus. i take information system in my university.. (not the information enginerring) but that's also computer.., i'm afraid i can't do something likes programing, cause i'm not good at math, + my major is likes data scientis and can be system analist. do you think it's worth it to take system analyst? or be system analyst?

lol Same goes for me

Same, and 98% of the time I deal with people

@Yize Dai I was joking about 98%, but great part of my work is talk to people, discuss solutions, code and do code review. I don't do much math when programming and you probably won't unless you are working with low level, graphics, game stuff or quantitative finance.

Heard that! I once solved a set of 3 equations on the back of a pizza box on the job. Wolfram Alpha wouldnt give me the answers because the numbers were too big and it was inexact or something. Turns out one of the variables was negligible XD. Still took an hour.

@@skahler jesus. Sounds fun though

It's a torus. The torus was created with a full revolution from a circle with a pivot point on the outside.

@@int16_t i know torus, its a good pokemon

Staring from section formula ending at luminance physics and math combined

Straightforward...!? Are you also an extraterrestrial like this dude...? We, regular people of the Earth have no fckin clue about any of this in the vid! And I was that stupid I started Google Data Analyst certificate course... LOL :D

@@colosistvan it actually is, you just need to start from begginings such as ariphmetic, basic geometry

it's actually a float(int) == float(int) situation

@@solitary2 my 16y/o brain cant understand

@@sly_ly3632 integer with decimal (integer) == integer with decimal (integer) == Means equals to Float (int) means turn integer to integer with decimal....(wait does that even work?)

@@electronx5594 oh

Bruh ur here too wtf

I think the most trending question is why we need fluid dynamics for doing your taxes.

@@testthisfordecficiencies nah the real question is why I have to take fluid dynamics for civil

@@typicalballer5514 Structural engineering is linked with fluid dynamics for many reasons. Fluid dynamics is basically a cornerstone field of study for engineering of many types. Taxes still confuses me!

The worst subject

Trick question, chemistry is almost non-existent in any forms of engineering

No one did with zero help anyways

People created these programs with no help, if they can do it so can you.

​@@JewelxxetPierre not at all. People who create things are extreme exceptions. Basically 1 in the whole population. It is often random, luck and just basically nothing you can just do as well.

Dude i feel same

Your salary will impress them don’t worry.

Exactly 😭 I built a freaking game and everyone was like..."it's nice but ok"

Find friends that will appreciate it

@@fergal2424 Jesus Christ loved you enough to die a gruesome death on a cross for you ~from an ex drug addict not form someone who spent all his life in church.

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Bruh how could you 😂

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I know nothing about it but I literally gasped too

Behold the wander! Behold the mighty!

physicists seriously ruined the name. It was a torus, and physicists called it a donut. Physicists, man, are a whole new level of bolshevism. P.S.:- This comment is just for fun! Please don't think otherwise.

all that for _screen height_

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Ummm... Just a huge doubt, since I like maths wayyyy more than programming... What kind of math is actually required in CS?? From my little knowledge, I learnt that linear regression is major part of AI, but can you provide me a small gist of it?? I am well versed in the basic maths like coordinate, calculus, and also probably optimization.

@@anirbanroy5667 Without maths you can program basic control flow. Granted, you can do a lot with that. But with maths you have the fast Fourier transform, semidefinite programing, locality sensitive hashing, gradient descent, Euler tour trees, min-flow/max-cut, the halting problem, compilers, formal languages, encryption, error correcting codes, ... shall I go on? Maths is the difference between a programmer and a script kiddie.

@@Erotemic damn it, that sounds interesting... What the hell have I been doing with my life?? Just performing basics of python, I was like this shit's boring🤣😭😭

@@Erotemic Any good recommendations of books that is a good introduction to mathematics? Dropped out of college but learning from home, still want to explore different options, especially programming!

^^ what I was expecting

@@NinjaNJH lol me too

that's me .lol

imagine getting a compilation error instead

segfault time

I guess professionals in most fields are like that

I'd say code simplicity and tidiness are the greatest programmer qualities. How "Creative" does a programmer really need to be? Programmers need to make the thing work in the simplest, tidiest way possible so it is scalable and robust without driving everybody mad and wasting time looking through redundant logic.

@Noa Ella I don't think that many people are all that happy programming within existing frameworks that need to be maintained. Here is the real secret: programming is absolute grunt work. Programming in a blank project something cool like this guys donut can be fun and fulfilling, but at most jobs you are usually just trying to find out why some colossal set of data isn't getting from one place to the other properly.

@Noa Ella Do you program every day?

@Gaudrix What you said is basically applicable for any profession. Not just programmers. PS: I'm a CS graduate as well.

and if we take the limit of your hairline its indeterminant cuz u have none (assuming l'hopital never existed ofc), jk i luv u

if you take the limit of Ben's hatred for angular it converges to infinity

Diverges I guess

Math

Interesting that we watch the same videos, let's head to Ben's Chanel now

Same here broooooooooo

Same

@@lunaris5685 no, sry einstein

@@givenedrikohalim1472 You must be under 18

@@lunaris5685 You must be fun at parties

You can learn the Math needed for programming as you learn programming.

@@jimjimsandburg2754 Oh yeah for sure, just wished I learned it earlier and payed attention then haha

feeling the same

you dont really need it. that 1% he speaks about is just an oppurtunity to be creative. afterall in the end all you are concerned about is getting a value, how you get it is up to you. goo dthing in programming is you can cheat as much as you want. with math you cannot cheat.

@@zendraw3468 You also have to consider that with larger programs optimization becomes a thing and if you want to be on the front end of optimization understanding certain data structures at a mathematical level could assist and put you in that better group of programmers. But yea, more often than not you can get thru life as a programmer without complex math knowledge. It's just those that want to do more than get by that might want to put the time in. (not that just getting by is a bad thing.)

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that moment when you say he looks like an asian keanu reeves when said person is part asian himself

No he look likes stephen chow

WattMonki i already did

Cuz he is

Wait... he isn't?

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So proud of you man, best of luck

Persista no seus sonhos, irmão

Tu é brasileiro, irmão? É nois, favela venceu cumpadi. Sei de qual favela vc é e sei dos teus corre. Vai na fé, cumpadi.

Now he is 20 month old😂

Jesus Christ loved you enough to die a gruesome death on a cross for you ~from an ex drug addict not form someone who spent all his life in church.

FOR THIS THE BLUEPRINT WAS MADE

I more think maths gives your brain a specific manner to aprehend problems. Indeed, sometimes you'll need maths, specifically quaternions for 3D. But in most of engines, the maths were already done. Now when I talk about the way to aprehend problems is the fact you need maths culture and in the cases when and why you have to use the equations. The computer will solve it for you, but as a developper you have to know it exists, why it exists, and what are the variables in that equation

@@powrjinix9796 Blueprint is a good solution, for non programers game makers or to trigger animations. But if you know how to code, you can have more control on what you're doing and you can have a nicely optimized code

my brother worked his entire college to create a simple 3d platformer.. needless to say, I will be going into arts

Yeah - you and me both, we should form a club...

@@Paul-eb2cl I'm in!👋👋👋🤭

Don’t forgot about me !!

@Yize Dai I don't know, what do you think? Whatever we come up with we can have it put on the back of some jackets 😎

hahaha , me too

Is his acount hacked

Or he forgot password

LoL

Hahahahah

I think he was busy

ye same but if you don't know anything about programming and all you would definitely see it normal or not impressive

it's the combination of 3 tricks, it's not programming stricto sensus as it will never help you for anything related to making money or having fun: - frame buffers, wich make no sense atm even in the video game industry as you will use abstractions for that, yes even if you program a game using C++ or whatever. - geometrical transformations wich makes sense having this idea only if you studied geometry at the university(I studied quite a bit of maths at the university, never came accross those concepts, wich do not look that hard tbh, just having some knowledge in algebra) - having the bright idea of ponderating brightness with characters Modern programming is a vastly different topic. The first guys who came with those kinds of ideas were particulary bright and had very versatile minds tho :).

@@youregonnahaveaskeletontim1925 I completely agree that people with no programming experience can never know

You forgetting that he did this in c . That simply insane

@@shivaprasadb7202 There is nothing to abstract code wise except chars and loops, wich C langage does...

Lmao

Lol😄😄

Too bad shisui didn't 😪

I feel you man 🥺😓

You do need math, but it depends on what you are doing, most of the time you will be probably doing simple math, unless you are making games logic such as gravity, rendering and etc, then you will need math

I sucked at math, but then I started practicing and now I'm average. As an ICT student now, I think it's more fun than doing math in school, because you get to choose the way you do it. Somehow the freedom of choosing the method has helped my brain a lot. You can do it.

@@hanac5586 thanks man

I'm a web developer with 2 years of exp, and I can ensure you, this video is nothing but clickbait. Don't let such nonesense stop you

In command prompt

@@theternal in the terminal, he's on Linux.

@@sherlock7127 He isn't using Linux, it's just a MacBook with Bash terminal tho

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wow never expected you in here tho

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@@nyamsurensuldbold3468 what?

Funny, I had this first semester in my intro course to programming using the C language(rotation of 3d objects, matrix calculations, linedrawing algorithms, color filling etc).. only 1/3 of the courses workload alongside calculus and discrete math..

@@ivanmoen9982 maybe he always skipping the class and doing other stuff instead actually studying.

you dont learn how to code in school lol. gotta teach yourself

I can barely writee mediocre javascript but I feel like I understand basic principals behind this program

@@chees720 javascript...

And sometimes an artist

So I need to grow a beard, right?

Or the eyes

Ah yes such great mathematical beards including Joma Tech and the Unabomber

Beard never used to a Korean thing

He pulls the numbers from his beard

Use khan academy and brilliant

@@Ou_dembele do u know a good resource for discrete math? for some reason i cant find any good youtube videos on it

Try watching 3Blue1Brown, Professor Leonard, and The Organic Chemistry Tutor.

@@ngndnd for maths, get a textbook first and then watch videos later.

Yo

Yeah, i feel you.

Same

Same 🤣

Inspiration

Nope, you wil solve by working hard! and that's y ur recommendations made u watch this.

Can't bite you man, YOU TOXIC.

or use stack overflow

Import then steal code from internet simple

@@ditsokar4168 lol

I feel you there...

bro i took commerce with IP and im planning to take BCA after 12th.. this is just ruiner my dream 💔

@@74G_ dont worry man,a colleague will always help u out,thats what friends are for

@@coralmary9466 wait, like someone below asked, why would people think programming doesn't need maths? i am a bit confused.

Same.....

@ZER0D4SH I was like hey that's a fvcking bag…. S H U T U P

and i thought im the only one

I read that in the old Smosh videos voice

your brain can be trained by trying to understand the concept as you go along. i disagree with needing school

​@@MilanoBrandwainumm self study ?? Can also do the same but where will u solve your doubts ?

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Enlarging your brain like that makes your d!ck small so you will be bad at sex in bed compare to guys in the street.

ye self studying, i agree @clonespectre8028

I skimmed through the video and I'm still not so sure as to what his arguments are to back up his claim

@@frials4757 he would’ve spent a lot of hours creating this pointless exercise, which I bet will crash the browser after running for so long

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