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Why You Need To Use Reference Tracks When Mixing 

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@inthemix
@inthemix 6 лет назад
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@twinpower9948
@twinpower9948 6 лет назад
In The Mix what Laptop would you recommend me for music production? 😋
@inthemix
@inthemix 6 лет назад
I'd look for something with a minimum of 8GB RAM and a decent processor (i5 - i7 range) Make sure that you get a cooling stand, that will be absolutely essential or your laptop will under perform and eventually break sooner than it should. Even a cheap £10 cooling stand to raise it off the desk will make a big performance and noise difference. Try to get an SSD if possible, I have 250GB ssd and I wish it was a bit bigger but it really is enough for me. I also have 1TB of back up and I'm not even close to filling that. Also try to avoid features you don't need such as touch screens and special hypes speakers that are branded because you wont really be using that and it will have taken money (performance) away from the CPU and RAM. Good luck :)
@twinpower9948
@twinpower9948 6 лет назад
In The Mix thanks for the advice , you helped me so much with your videos about mastering and sound engineering I don’t know how to thank you 😋
@nischey
@nischey 6 лет назад
In The Mix Can you make a video on top ways to make unique intro(s) I am really stuck
@ednaopare4545
@ednaopare4545 6 лет назад
please add mastering tuttorials too please
@azzazymusic
@azzazymusic 6 лет назад
It’s unbelievable how you cut it short to the point without spending like 4mins talking about your life ... brilliant ... thanks again and forever
@inthemix
@inthemix 6 лет назад
Azzazy Thank you! Yes I'm trying to keep the videos compact, it's most helpful that way :)
@walasker6017
@walasker6017 3 года назад
@@inthemix cheers man
@JamieTK
@JamieTK 6 лет назад
Another good little trick when using reference tracks is to solo different frequency bands, (Eg. The lows, mids and highs) and compare them with the reference track. This helps hone into elements which are out of place. It's also really handy to see how your kick and bass compare to your reference track :)
@inthemix
@inthemix 6 лет назад
Fantastic idea, It reveals a lot about the low end of a mix and helps you stay focused
@ty2kbuddier
@ty2kbuddier 3 года назад
How do you do this in Logic Pro X?
@omix3408
@omix3408 6 лет назад
Hey man! I've followed you for about a month now and I must say that almost every video that I've seen from you have been very helpful. I've produced music for a couple of years now but every time I'm watching your tutorials, I learn something new. Thanks Mike!
@pronavsandhu
@pronavsandhu 5 лет назад
Very well explained. amazing presentation skills and also straight to the point. cutting the gaps in videos makes it very quick and easy. thenk you
@willemojnr
@willemojnr 4 года назад
I used SPAN to compare my track to one of my favorite Jon Hopkins tracks, and mine looked positively anorexic 😆
@DanielWin
@DanielWin 6 лет назад
You kinda look like Nicky Romero
@SharvindVyas
@SharvindVyas 5 лет назад
Dan Nguyen HAHAHAHA
@Editisement
@Editisement 3 года назад
You ain't wrong!!
@Xake_Official
@Xake_Official 3 года назад
Oh my gosh he does!!!
@jamesnesser8993
@jamesnesser8993 4 года назад
I would add one thing, if it hasn’t been covered already. When you assign the reference track to the mixer do not route that track to the master or 2 bus, where it will be affected by whatever plugins you have there. Instead, route the reference directly out to one and two (shown at the bottom of the effects rack for that mixer track). Otherwise, great advice.
@barkbent4324
@barkbent4324 2 года назад
Thanks!
@Motel-Music
@Motel-Music 4 года назад
So I just started using reference tracks and its a good track by a respected producer, however in my DAW all my meters go into the red the LUFS are to high, the VU meters go +10 etc. even when the volume is turned down. So how does that work?
@Iluzmusic
@Iluzmusic 6 лет назад
Hey Mike! Could you do a detailed tutorial on how to mix your track using SPAN analyser(ref track)...that would be very helpful :)
@theprosico4092
@theprosico4092 6 лет назад
I never thought of using reference tracks for mixing. It is very helpful man xD 🔥💯🔥🔥👍
@laughfever
@laughfever 3 года назад
Is it safe to say if I use a not-so-flat-frequency headphones to mix, as long as I mix it towards the way my reference tracks sounded like through that particular headphones, I'll be good to go?
@abinashsharma1688
@abinashsharma1688 4 года назад
Should the reference track be in wav format or mp3 works?
@nischey
@nischey 6 лет назад
Using reference tracks everytime makes me realize that I am producing a piece of shit
@malcolmlaing8892
@malcolmlaing8892 11 дней назад
thank you for that very helpful info. Please could you let me know where to download Pop, Blues, Country and any other Genre reference tracks?
@moksha8473
@moksha8473 6 лет назад
Didn't know Russell Howard was a professional music producer...
@buzzpsy
@buzzpsy 5 лет назад
You brother , you are amazing, I always search something for learning and I see your video and I jump onto it, thank you so much for all your advices, I really appreciate you for helping artist like us thank you so much
@Drizzydid
@Drizzydid Год назад
Question on this - do engineers feel "insulted" if artists send reference tracks alongside the mix stems for the engineer to reference? i.e. do most engineers prefer not to receive a reference track to influence the way they mix vs mixing the song to their own ability and finding their own reference tracks if/as needed? i.e. i.e. is it the artists job to supply a reference track or do most engineers usually prefer to be the one to decide for themselves if they need a reference track at all and then subsequently find it themselves if they do? Edit: When I am asking with respect to engineers preference I'm referring to more highly experienced engineers who know their studio set up and have a lot of experience in their selected genre space they are being hired to mix in by an artist.
@TheOnlyToblin
@TheOnlyToblin 6 лет назад
You've done so much for me with learning FL and mixing. Thanks a bunch dude! Even though we make vastly different music, your tips are always helpful! Me I'm mostly making retro themed and styled remakes of old Amiga tracks.
@jdestiniibeats123
@jdestiniibeats123 3 года назад
The problem is most of the musicians I look up to have mixes that sound so full compare to mine Nujabes logic Ariana grande I want to give up some days.. I've even gone as far as to get alot of my room treatment and it helped but I just want to make a commercial sounding mix
@joshd265
@joshd265 4 года назад
Awesome advice
@prashantchauhan3852
@prashantchauhan3852 6 лет назад
Really Helpful! ♥️
@AlfredNazGates
@AlfredNazGates 3 года назад
Started doing this with ripping songs off spotify. Record the part I like from spotify, export from audacity and bring back into live with wav form.
@richardpress9551
@richardpress9551 6 лет назад
Cool video man? Where did you learn all this stuff? Did you study audio / sound engineering in uni? Thanks for giving something back to others and helping. Useful video.
@jel-lo5725
@jel-lo5725 4 года назад
Great video. I noticed you have a Focusrite Scarlett Solo. I was thinking about getting a pair of headphones, and I was considering 250 ohms models, so my question is: do you think the Scarlett Solo is enough for 250 ohms headphones? And what about the 80 ohms ones?
@malcolmlaing8892
@malcolmlaing8892 11 дней назад
Thank you for that, very helpful. Please could you let me know where to download reference tracks? Any/all Genre.
@gerardomerino6418
@gerardomerino6418 8 месяцев назад
Hi Mike, Thank you for the video. Could you please recommend where to download high quality tracks from? Thanks again!
@thecurdge5934
@thecurdge5934 5 лет назад
Should the reference track be in wav format? How do you get reference tracks, must they be purchased or is there a way around that.
@xavigtr
@xavigtr 3 года назад
Hi ,master how r u .Really u r great, Master can you please suggest some reference track to listen to improve my listening skill
@swarajbaral6416
@swarajbaral6416 6 лет назад
Why do you use 3 pairs of studio monitors ?? 😶😶😶
@inthemix
@inthemix 6 лет назад
Good question, I use the white ones 95% of the time. I have actually been testing out the two smaller ones and I now have the yellow rokits on top of the black ones (not like in this video). These smaller speakers I use when editing videos and checking mixes for a second reference. I use the black ones as stands for the yellow ones to raise them up closer to ear height :)
@swarajbaral6416
@swarajbaral6416 6 лет назад
You actually use an expensive pair of monitors as a stand ?? Respect, mate..... 😂😂😂😂
@HaharuRecords
@HaharuRecords 6 лет назад
In The Mix so that means you are not using all together BTW... ok cool..
@klassenjimmy99
@klassenjimmy99 Год назад
Where is everyone finding the file references and where are they downloading it from? No one seems to say that they just say they just open Ableton and then pull a reference track from I don’t know where and how it got into Ableton can you please help
@santiagorestrepo6063
@santiagorestrepo6063 3 года назад
¿Must be always Wav files or can I I use mp3 like references?
@metalgeartac8186
@metalgeartac8186 6 лет назад
Thank you for the tips sir. Have you guys thought about maybe doing a live stream and listening to other peoples tracks and critiquing them?
@metalgeartac8186
@metalgeartac8186 6 лет назад
I've seen Alex Moukala do this on twitch. People send their orchestras and he plays them live and gives them advice on how to improve.
@inthemix
@inthemix 6 лет назад
Metalgear Tac I'm testing live streams, I'm actually planning another one tomorrow. I'm going to figure out a way to get submissions if I did something like that
@metalgeartac8186
@metalgeartac8186 6 лет назад
In The Mix cool, hopefully it works well!
@emiel333
@emiel333 6 лет назад
Great video, Mike. Most channels talking about reference tracks provide not so much info. You did it right with this subject! Greetings, Emiel.
@inthemix
@inthemix 6 лет назад
Emiel333 Bakhuis Greetings, thank you ever so much :)
@vlogswithankitnayakvlogs
@vlogswithankitnayakvlogs 5 лет назад
Thanks sir
@workoutsontwitch1687
@workoutsontwitch1687 3 года назад
Probably a dumb question but where does one download high quality mix vs master files? Does websites like Beatport offer final mix options? Or is that just the final master. Im wondering for trying to learn edm production
@ExileLBL
@ExileLBL 4 года назад
I have a important question. Im comparing my MIX with someones MASTER. But I want be the one who will also MASTER my own track. So if im understanding it right: Should I firstly, level match the tracks in mix session, then when Im finished with mix, export it to new session, (this time with no decreased volume of the mastered track) where I will try to reach same (original) level as reference track with limiter? (and some other final details fixing with tools like StageOne, DynOne, OZone Imager) Sry for my bad English, hope its understandable.
@bcarg69
@bcarg69 5 лет назад
How do you pull tracks into FL Studio?
@undefinedxandr
@undefinedxandr 3 года назад
How do you even get reference track?
@groundhog7871
@groundhog7871 6 лет назад
Its a good tip but don't make the mistake to try to simialar to your favourite track, because you have to create your own sound.
@inthemix
@inthemix 6 лет назад
Greyhound Yes absolutely! You want to stay unique and develop your own sound :)
@NaviSingh
@NaviSingh 4 года назад
plz cut lil opacity of ur face light,,,....it burns eyes..
@twinpower9948
@twinpower9948 6 лет назад
Great video 👍🏻 can’t wait for more vids 😋
@BhavyaRecordsOfficial
@BhavyaRecordsOfficial 6 лет назад
I think my ears don't work properly.. I just can't do mixing. Please give me some suggestions.
@ralphwb60
@ralphwb60 2 года назад
Intereseting video. What do you think about using reference plug-ins, like Reference2?
@justinbraveheart26
@justinbraveheart26 Год назад
Thanks for your good explanation but i would just add one vital part to this if you are going to use a reference track. ALWAYS use a reference track which is in the SAME key. Because the eq is going to differ and it will vibrate at an other level. From the thickness to the overal sound. Waveforms played at another note scale can remove or add extra loudness and give your track not the results you wanna have. This is the major error people make when using other tracks for reference. My 2 important cents.
@Y0nex
@Y0nex 6 лет назад
What if the reference track likes their hihats to be more louder and some others like them more in the background so how do i know how to compare?
@khalilsingh
@khalilsingh 6 лет назад
So indirectly it is teaching us to mix and master. What if i put a limiter on the reference track and lower it to -8db and then use that as a set point for my kick to mix around? Because you just said that we should lower the volume of the reference track but no instruction as to how
@jondarling
@jondarling 3 года назад
I would lower the reference track to 0 then slowly bring it up to match your mix track . Some limiters add color so I would advise against that. Remember to also have your reference track completely unaffected by any effects - whether that be on your Master fader (or wherever you are listening to the reference track output)
@khalilsingh
@khalilsingh 3 года назад
@@jondarling Thank you so much!
@joelletort6088
@joelletort6088 3 года назад
The thing is back in the day's of Abbey Road they would never do this because of he obvious. No wonder most songs now sound very naff with no soul but it sound radio friendly.
@skygazer3696
@skygazer3696 3 года назад
Very useful Information.. Keep sharing
@mackynjing2192
@mackynjing2192 3 года назад
Are you related to Nicky Romero
@JimsMusicLegacy
@JimsMusicLegacy 2 года назад
Thanks, mate. Really informative video.
@huxenshah
@huxenshah 3 года назад
is it okay to have mp3 tracks as reference? if not then how can i download a wav track from spotify?
@nickdua1282
@nickdua1282 6 лет назад
i have been following for one month i have learned a lot of things form your videos the one i got stuck i have been trying to fix it up but cannot do that i have gotten stuck in vocal recording i do start vocal recording there was beep sounds came from the back. Also dubbling the vocal quality if you can help me to sort it out please i will be much appreciated and if i record the vocal with headphones is it the good way to do that i am beginner
@inthemix
@inthemix 6 лет назад
nick dua recording with headphones to hear the music is good but you want to make sure you are singing into a microphone, usually a cheap condenser is all you need to get started :)
@nickdua1282
@nickdua1282 6 лет назад
In The Mix thank you for reply me back i am really appreciate i have got Rode NT1 condenser microphone
@thomasmatthews80
@thomasmatthews80 Год назад
Invaluable as ever, and so concise and we'll formulated and presented
@jamiesargent2803
@jamiesargent2803 Год назад
If im mixing a cover, is it a good or bad to use the original song as a reference track?
@chinmaykhawse7518
@chinmaykhawse7518 6 лет назад
Thanks Mike .. btw what software do u use to edit videos ?
@inthemix
@inthemix 6 лет назад
Ghosts Mix 707 No worries,I use Adobe Premiere Pro to edit my videos, it's become increasingly slower with the new windows updates though, which is disappointing
@theessenceworld
@theessenceworld 6 лет назад
Thanks sir its really helpful 🎧🎼
@federicobreno1839
@federicobreno1839 3 года назад
When you say compare the level how you do it? RMS or Peak?
@ramani.tramani.t6581
@ramani.tramani.t6581 6 лет назад
Mike bro.. Now I have a 'rider' microphone with me For connecting it to my PC, Is the Audio interface important?? Or can we connect in any other ways???
@VERSAGotBeats
@VERSAGotBeats 4 года назад
anybody tell you, you look like nicky romero lol
@nicholaslau9321
@nicholaslau9321 5 лет назад
Which headphones do you prefer for mixing out of Sennheiser HD600 vs Beyerdynamic DT 1990?
@chrisc9339
@chrisc9339 3 года назад
Good video, thanks. In most other videos or articles I've seen about using reference tracks, they mention to try to only use .WAV files, not .MP3's. What do you think about this? It's obviously much easy to get hold of .MP3's, and well mixed ones sound very good. Do you think it's OK to use them for reference tracks? Thanks.
@Urproducer
@Urproducer 4 года назад
Thanks. This really helped me to finally figure mixing out.
@miikamessi
@miikamessi 6 лет назад
Thx for the vid. How young are you guys?
@inthemix
@inthemix 6 лет назад
Miika K No worries, I'm 22 :)
@miikamessi
@miikamessi 6 лет назад
In The Mix nice, same age then :)
@DopeTechy
@DopeTechy 5 лет назад
Only 9k view may be its not seen by many people But video content is bestest.
@ziadmahjoub6736
@ziadmahjoub6736 5 лет назад
whats the difference between span settings , its kinda confusing
@domeniconitti529
@domeniconitti529 3 года назад
Hello. I have a question. To prevent the clipping of my reference track in the project from affecting the stereo out, is it enough to change the routing and direct it to "no output"?
@kcolg321
@kcolg321 6 лет назад
You're so well spoken and so good at explaining stuff correctly, very helpfull my man. Started out producing again a couple of months ago.
@entropymusicoriginals
@entropymusicoriginals 6 лет назад
Plz make one video on mastering in the box plzz.....btw your channel helped alot❤
@professorflitch
@professorflitch 16 дней назад
For me it always is a pain in the ass to find solid reference tracks. Maybe my music is just too weird...
@staracer9414
@staracer9414 4 года назад
how do you download your reference tracks?
@migats2160
@migats2160 4 года назад
But what if my style is totally unique
@timehu3820
@timehu3820 3 года назад
谢谢
@chinmaykhawse7518
@chinmaykhawse7518 6 лет назад
Would u help me again? I also wanted to know how to post cover songs and remixes legally without being copyrighted?
@d9techshow891
@d9techshow891 3 года назад
Great job bro 😉👍👍👍👍
@contraspower6302
@contraspower6302 4 года назад
From where we can download reference track?🙏
@chinmaykhawse7518
@chinmaykhawse7518 6 лет назад
How's Adobe After Effects Mike?
@YungGoatBeats
@YungGoatBeats 6 лет назад
thanks for so much help Mike!!! you're the best!
@mixtv1767
@mixtv1767 6 лет назад
Great
@eugenedegraffinreid5264
@eugenedegraffinreid5264 6 лет назад
Very insightful and informative
@thesuncollective1475
@thesuncollective1475 5 лет назад
Ears not Eyes I agree
@cosmokeytrancemusic
@cosmokeytrancemusic 6 лет назад
Very helpful! lots of good tips here.
@vipuldive6091
@vipuldive6091 2 года назад
💐🙏💐
@shehanmusick
@shehanmusick 3 года назад
❤️❤️❤️
@avail742
@avail742 6 лет назад
amazing video
@arhmlmao
@arhmlmao 6 лет назад
Thank you Soooooooo much! that's what i needed! 😀😀
@hamadxjm
@hamadxjm 5 лет назад
Is it right to compare against youtube music?
@inthemix
@inthemix 5 лет назад
Well I guess so? Just remember that these tracks have been mastered and will be in a lower bit rate/compressed by RU-vid etc. Overall they will sound good
@agnibhchakraborty1116
@agnibhchakraborty1116 6 лет назад
Mike, FL Studio in my computer is just using half of the memory available. I have 8 GB ram in my computer but it's just using 4 GB. What should I do??
@inthemix
@inthemix 6 лет назад
Try to reduce the number of plugins, wav files and vsts you are using or look to upgrade your RAM. We all struggle with computer drawbacks but try to look at the positives and all that is possible with your computer, You've got a machine that people would be dreaming of over 10 years ago :)
@chromebuoy
@chromebuoy 4 года назад
Your using a 32bit operating system which only supports 4GB RAM, upgrade to 64bit to up to 32GB RAM.
@voltermathiba87
@voltermathiba87 6 лет назад
Help!! How do I drag & stretch(maximise) plugin effect window like Eq2.settings!!
@inthemix
@inthemix 6 лет назад
Volter Mathiba If you are using the latest version of FL Studio you simply left click the bottom corner of he window and drag it out :)
@KhuvamMuang
@KhuvamMuang 4 года назад
❤️thanks you
@sosa7208
@sosa7208 5 лет назад
Thanks man, great video!
@MaulikOfficial
@MaulikOfficial 6 лет назад
Can u make a tutorial over making a kick on mono with subbass?
@inthemix
@inthemix 6 лет назад
Making a kick and bassline work in mono? Or actually showing how to make a bassline? A good way to ensure mono compatibility is to avoid any stereo widening on any of the low frequencies of the kick or bass :)
@MaulikOfficial
@MaulikOfficial 6 лет назад
In The Mix making a kick and bassline work in mono!!
@MaulikOfficial
@MaulikOfficial 6 лет назад
In The Mix should we make our bass and kick both on mono?
@inthemix
@inthemix 6 лет назад
It's recommended to keep the low frequencies in Mono but you can experiment and find what works for your style :)
@MaulikOfficial
@MaulikOfficial 6 лет назад
In The Mix thanks for the help and ur tips!!
@trapchampagne2214
@trapchampagne2214 4 года назад
When I bring a reference track into FL Studio I can never get the BPM to match. Does anyone have a trick to fix this?
@karthikspams2689
@karthikspams2689 4 года назад
why would you need to match the bpm for mixing?
@woodyoulove-reynaldguibone6890
@woodyoulove-reynaldguibone6890 4 года назад
I wonder how the first ever song or album in the world being mastered before without a reference.
@johnmorris2170
@johnmorris2170 5 лет назад
Agreed. Use reference tracks if you want your mixes to sound just like everyone else's. If you are just a song writer and you want your work heard then by all means use whatever tricks you can to get a half way o.k. mix to whomever. If it works who am I to knock it? If you are calling yourself a professional studio and you are mixing for clients then you need to know how to mix. And the most important thing is your room. Just $150 worth of acoustic treatment is all you need. And then you want a full range monitor system. Or close to it anyway. A pair of KRK ROCKET 5 with a KRK subwoofer (set to 80hz at least 24db / octave). Despite what you might have heard the rockets are fine when played in a room properly treated. Now you have a system that is 30 - 20 000 hz. You will be able to hear all of the bass properly and you won't need reference tracks.
@beatsbyfirstya5847
@beatsbyfirstya5847 3 года назад
I get your point, but the problem is that the human ear is used to certain frequencies from music these days. if you deviate too much from that, it automatically sounds less good. that's why references are so important
@SibaNL
@SibaNL Год назад
Yes, but you won't get good at mixing out of nowhere
@Benjamin-om3ih
@Benjamin-om3ih 6 лет назад
Great video, thank you
@antoniodalombajr9169
@antoniodalombajr9169 6 лет назад
You're very informative dude
@ternitamas
@ternitamas 6 лет назад
great tips
@nickusneelius
@nickusneelius 6 лет назад
Would it be possible for you to show how to set up Span to compare to the reference track? Thank you for all your tutorials. I've learned a lot from you!
@inthemix
@inthemix 6 лет назад
nickusneelius Yes I probably should cover that in a video, I left a few settings in the description box down below if that helps?
@nickusneelius
@nickusneelius 6 лет назад
In The Mix sorry, I didn't notice that before. Thank you!
@geniusworldtech917
@geniusworldtech917 6 лет назад
Best producer
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