Why You Should NOT Carry Off-Body.....EVER! (Part 2) - Geauga Firearms Academy 

I'm an ex-military cop, last fall my girl and I were almost robbed just like that grab simulation here in Cleveland. Just by chance I had my dog with us and saved our lives. Now I carry everyday. Thanks to your channel and excellent videos she's decided now to carry also. Big thanks to the both of you.

I just discovered this series, I think they're great. I will be watching these again with my wife. My wife is constantly on the road thus I would really appreciate some videos on entering/exiting the vehicle, weapon location, drawing from concealment while in the transition and while in the vehicle. I think this will help her gain a better understanding of what I call "The 6 P's", Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Preformance. I find it is sometimes better for her to hear it from someone else so she doesn't perceive it as criticism. Thanks for the videos. Please keep them coming. DOL/RLTW!

That last exercise is exactly why I always carry with a round in the chamber. In case someone has ahold of one arm.

Nice going to show my daughter and my wife this I couldn't explain it any better

Kim, you clearly have excellent skills and pay attention to training. Excellent work!

I've seen both of these videos and I believe you've proven your case. I'm glad you've both decided to post videos like this.

I love Kim's evil smile at 2:46 as she knows she's got you!

I am very impressed with the hands on demo. She was able to pull that gun fast! Impressive!

Neil because of your very hands on training with Kim, she is one woman no one can mess with! Your channel is one of my favorites. Liked and subscribed.

Alien gear is awesome I have the 3.0. Love your channel bro! It's cool that you incorporate Kim in the videos because my wife can watch with me and learn.

you guys have become my favorite channel. Hope one day to take your training course. Can't wait for the next video.

My wife was carrying her Bodyguard in her purse. She switched to "T" shirt, jeans and holster on the hip and an loose fitting shirt for concealment. At 71 she's still quite attractive. She got the 380 EZ and the transition to the larger pistol was easy....(pun intended) I'm a retired LEO and firearms instructor. You two make some great videos with your demonstrations.

Good action Kim, you look ready for anything, Neil, thanks for pointing out the snap on belt loops. They're the best and you never have to worry. Thanks for another great G.F.A. video!

Part 1 & 2 are very informative. You have a new sub here. I'll be sharing this video for sure.

great follow up video!!

Eye opening when you compare to the off body carry video! Thanks!

first time I have seen your videos. They are great instructional and extremely informative. I will be passing this onto my wife, daughter and daughter in law. Keep it up. The situation at the end where you grab her and she get the weapon on you, her face looked "deadly ". Dude, don't piss her off. The red came out.

Great one handed draw. I know that took some training.

Another great vid! Great content! Great job Kim & Neil

great demo. I still believe that it is better to have a gun than to not have one even if you have to carry it off body. In some ways it could even give you a huge advantage. If you know you are being followed you can slip your hand in you hand bag and have your gun out of its holster and ready to be fired without your attacker even being aware that you are ready to shoot then just turn and fire right through your bag without even pulling the gun out. If i am walking through a bad neighborhood i always slip my hand in my purse and grab gun or knife. It is not always possible wear clothing that can conceal a gun so off body is the next best thing.

These are exceptionally well done concept training videos for real world scenarios!!! Thank you!!

I've been showing my wife these videos. She loves that purple under shirt. What brand is that? It really is hard to get a female perspective on concealed carry. Whenever women ask me about concealed carry advise I always say these two things: A purse is not a place for a gun, given how easily they are stolen and that contrary to what one would think, larger guns are easier for women to shoot than tiny guns in the same caliber.

AWESOME videos. Me and the wife were just looking for a "tactical" purse as you said. So glad I found these before hand. Me and her will definitely be going over these scenarios together. You made a new sub here!

Geauga firearms Academy great vid brother thank you way to go keep up the great work love your intro the way your shooting and rolling on the ground to cool safety always peace and love for gun and people

I am a 60 year old female that finally decided I have watched enough horrible crime and Violence in the job that I have been doing for over 40 years. The world has changed. I have to admit I feel a little scared when it comes to carrying a gun. I only have been using it to protect my home. I so much have enjoyed seeing a woman’s take on carrying a gun

If you are looking for conceal carry options and holster for women Kim just did a video on that and a holster system review bit.ly/2dM0mtX

I was already a convert, and I watched appreciatively to see the reasoning confirmed. Thanks, ya'll...

Good videos, I'm going to show my wife this. She thinks that holsters are a bother. I have told her these things many times, hopefully seeing it will penetrate.

Ahh so there was a follow up to the off body verses strapped on! Very good!

not downing your video, but there is a video called surviving edged weapons. the 21 ft was the average distance was 21 feet that allowed the officer to engage the target by side stepping. without the side step officers engaged the threat but were cut or stabbed in the process. if i remember right.

Nice job guys! like the realism and agree it's nice for women to get a realistic view of situations. Got a new subscriber.

Get an Ulti-Clip on that holster. It clamps down on your pants. I have put them on all my holsters even though I wear a belt because they do hold in place much better.

"fairy dust and unicorn hair" haha!

I have a small problem with the end. Most people (atleast in the western world) are right handed. Why would a attacker use his left hand in the way shown to pull on someones left hand? There only come three reasons to my mind: He is left hand dominant or knows that the other person is. He is already within a attack with his dominant hand and you`ll be hit hard. He is holding a weapon in his dominant hand ready to use it. There are other tools than guns (some aren`t even legally counted as weaons). I`m not saying this because we can`t have guns for SD here (and if they`d be legal i`d carry guns & frags) but some things don`t change. A thing i can recommend to do is placing things so you can reach them with both hands (or a "brace" of things). What might be a good idea is to find out where your hands are in a surprised, shock, defense situation and look for short ways from there (even things like roofingnails or a piece of rebar can help). Almost every time i was attacked so far i had a big advantage with my left hand because i could pretty much block and attack with the same hand while they couldn`t really use their main hand.

Kim is prepared. Good video.

New to shooting....spent alot of time on YT....love your vids....thanks!!!!

I appreciate your time and the information. thank you

I would like to suggest you take a look at a clip I found that would expand your selection of pants you can comfortably conceal without worrying about pulling the holster out with the firearm. I don't wear yoga pants because I am a guy but i do wear mesh shorts. Although I don't go out in them I tried my holster with the clip in them to see if it would pull out with my firearm when I draw. It didn't. It also will conceal better because the clip can be hidden behind a belt. The clip I am talking about is called the ulticlip.

Kim, where did you get your belt? Awesome video

You both do a great job instructing! Thank you

Im looking into some classes once this freaking lockdown is over. I think some self defense classes are needed as an extra element for protection. Thanks for this video.

Great job Kim!!

I commented on the first video and if the point is to have people carry it on there person then you are 100% correct. but Kim has obviously had alot of practice, the muscle memory is there and she's under no stress. have her do this under stress or take someone that just goes through the NRA CCW class and the result would be the same in either scenario. I'm just saying that if you have your CCW permit then carry. if you only have Yoga pants because you are coming out of the gym then carry "off body". my whole point was that having your weapon is better than not having it. most people are not going to get as proficient as Kim I guess. so either make state mandates for training tuff or carry how you feel comfortable.

Kim did an awesome job getting her gun out but I hope that in a real life situation that her gun will be cocked and ready to rock because she wouldn't have time to do both.

Great video series!

@5:27 PRICELESS! Now please redo this video having her with just a cellphone.

I will share this video with my wife. I am trying to show her what could happen in the real world

I really appreciate the hands on demonstrations. But I have one questions. You grabbed your Kim on her left hand probably subconsciously knowing her right hand was the shooting hand. But what if somebody would grab your shooting hand from behind? If you have your gun at the 4 o"clock position, there is not way to reach your gun with the left hand (that is if your right hand it the shooting hand).

Great video, a much watch for the ladies!

Thank you for these videos. I will be sharing them with my wife. By the way, think Kim's practicing without you :-)

thanks for sending.e to part 2. answered my question.

perfect. I think you prove your point nicely.

This is a great video as far as it went. WHY would you carry a gun in a holster inside a purse ? It just doesn’t make any sense. My second question is. Why you would not carry your gun in one of the purses that have a holster on the outside out of sight. It would make it quicker to deploy. Whether it would change the outcome of your demo . I am not sure.

ULTI-CLIP works great without a belt. Give them a try.

Honestly, around 1:30 i couldn't focus on the firearm. Good point, however.

Great video!

I feel like the number one reason why off body carry is a terribly dangerous idea has not been covered in These videos: It puts a loaded firearm at the finger tips of pretty much anyone who comes anywhere near it. Every time you hear of a tragic accident of a young kid killng themselves or a sibling by accident it is basically always because they stumbled upon it in mom's purse or in a closet. A gun should either be securely on the person who owns it or it should be locked away in a safe.....thats it! No other viable options.

Hello Kim GFA.....Love your videos...Just wondering if you all are in Geauga County,Ohio?Thank You!!!

What do you recommend in the situation where your strong side arm is grabbed and some one is attempting to drag you into a car / ally / other place you would rather not be dragged.

Great lessons. Is it just me or did Kim seem to wrap the slide with her thumb? Great lesson!

Convincing scenarios! Consider safety of using a blue gun. Very dangerous with actual firearm. Weapon should always be in direction

You can tell she has practiced pulling that weapon allot. Although that scenario will probably never happen,,its good to know she can do it. Now if I can get my GF to just touch a gun,lol. She is getting closer to wanting to.

I was showing this video with my wife. We would like to know what pistol and holster combination you were using. Also, is this Kim's EDC? If so, would she recommended it to someone of similar stature? Thanks.

she works in marketing in the medical field. she wears a knee long dress. it has company logo on it. it's short sleeved and fits tightly against her frame. she's a tiny thing and I'm concerned all she can wear is a Derringer on her thigh like in a old western lol. which again is impractical.

Hey, have you tried the Q-series holster? It has a sharp hook that will hook on to pants without a belt. It even has built in retention and is a minimal holster, it just covers the trigger guard. The hook can be taken off, and replaced with a cord. I am impressed with it, but it could be an option for women for on body carry who want to wear yoga pants. I have tried it without a belt with jeans, but defiantly not yoga pants, trying to quit those lol

I still never noticed a gun.

two questions regarding this video: If the attacker gets so close, isn't it a worry that he will take the gun away? Also, in your last scenario, with the grab, countering the attack if the draw hand had been the one that was grabbed?

love your videos. please give me some feedback on concealed carry for my girl other than wearing blue jeans she's not in a position with her job that she can wear them to work we live in a big city and I'm worried about her all the time. thanks God bless

Hey guys a question for you all In the 21ft run how does she know for certain that your a threat? Your just someone running behind her you didn't shout or make any remarks she could of possibly shot someone that didn't mean her harm?

I love your channel man keep up the good work your wife's a badass

Nice job miss Kimberley, I have the cpl my first is a S&W SHIELDS 9MM. Im in the gym allot sweat pants all the time. Could you guy's recommend a good holster for this situation. Thank's

What was this video about again? I mean... good Lord... I love cute redheads but this little gal takes it to the next level. I'm envious of whoever is her guy. Good videos too... lol.

Good job!

Lets say the woman is insistent on wearing yoga pants or not wearing a belt with their jeans... What method would you recommend them carrying? A flash/bang bra holster? Or something different?

That works well when you know the drill and what is going to happen. She was beginning to draw while anticipating the attack. It is a flawed scenario. Would you turn and shoot if you heard someone one running from behind? I would hope not. Turn and shoot is not a viable option. Unlike the movies, a person does not fall immediately after being shot so you have to side step and shoot. I'm truly not trying to put you down but I really don't want people to have a false sense of security thinking it is that easy!

even with belts, I've seen holsters with clips instead of loops come off with guns in classes a whole bunch of times (and almost every time they say, "we'll that's never happened before.") What really gets me is when people say, "damn it, I hate when that happens," or, "damn it, that's the third time that's happened," and I'm just like, if it's happened before, why the heck are you still using that holster/clips?also, if you absolutely insist on clips, there is something called the "ulticlip" which is much better than regular clips.just a heads up.

Hi you show the grab scenario with kims left arm being grabbed what about if kims grabbed by the right arm? can kim still access her firearm and be effective with just her left arm?

My wife has a handbag that she carries with her hand on her gun and can fire without drawing.

At what point in the video does Kim steal someone's soul? j/k. Good videos. Just subbed.

Very interesting series, but I imagine the target audience of this series is the female population, as it is extremely hard for guys to pay attention to the subject matter with Kim standing around the instructor. I had to watch some of the videos twice to force myself to pay attention to the actual techniques being discussed. ;)

Great videos you guys have. just found you today btw. I think Kim would be in a bit of hot water if you grabbed her by the right arm and spun her around instead of her left. What would happen then? Also, If she is right handed she would normally carry a purse or bag over her right shoulder but with ccw at 4 o'clock it's probably good to carry a bag on the opposite shoulder and over the neck. What do you think? Obviously I don't carry a purse but my wife does.

tacti-cooooollll sonnnn

I have a question for both you and Kim. How can I get my wife to train with me or even someone else? I train with firearms as well as do martial arts and I always stress the importance of it to her. I try to say that I'm 6'2 230 lbs and I train every day in self defense and in all likely hood she would be chosen as a victim over me without a doubt, yet I still take it upon myself to be prepared so will you please train a little too? It doesn't work. How were you able to get Kim to train and Kim what was your deciding factor? thanks guys, awesome videos.

lock and loaded on body carry is the only way good video

What if you grabbed her right arm?

Wow, beautiful woman - great video too! thanks.

appendix carry ;) I appendix carry my Beretta

What would happen if you grabbed her "strong-side" arm?

If you take her handbag she will still have her gun on her hand

Yes his wife is gorgeous but come on focus people lol no but seriously the only bad thing I see about this video is a she turns around she fumbles a little bit with getting the pistol in a point retention Style shooting technique that way it will keep the person charging her from slapping the gun out of her hand and on another note she should also try stepping off the X as he's attacking her change the angle 2 achieve more distance and we all know distance is time when in this type of situation other than that the video as well informative I showed it to my mother and she now knows why she cannot carry her gun in a bag or purse.

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i get very distracted watching your videos for some reason.. oh yeah, must be the hot redhead !!!!!

Did you see the look on her face? The eye of the tiger!

Gun is useless if it's out of your reach when your life is in danger.

Kim😍

She's hot!! And packing heat...doesnt get any better.

I don't see how this is realistic. Who is going to shoot someone that is just running at them. In a real situation, someone is going to have their hands on you before you can legal shoot them. I still think good hand to hand training beats a gun any day. Close and personal a knife is just as deadly and easily concealable. If your wife draws a gun and blasts some one, you might not see her again for years.

Ulticlip for that holster so it won't come off the pants. www.ulticlip.com/

Ulti-clip.

kim is fucking goooooorgeoussss .but that's none of my business.