I did I own a diamondback db 10 308 in burnt bronze color finish,and a vortex crossfire 2 6/18/44 bdc scope on it.and I do dearly love it.plus I own a ATI ar 15 300 blackout omni hybrid rifle that is very light and has a nikon prostaff 4/12/40 bdc scope on it.and it maybe what people call a cheap ar rifle but I've used it to harvest well over 30 nice deer with here in my farm in tazewell county Virginia.im 62 and the ati 300 blackout fits me just perfect for my style of hunting he at home!!!!!
@@ElliottDelp hit a deer with any round in the shoulder and there will be carnage to said shoulder. Shot placement is key. The fact that a 30 caliber bullet is being considered as too much for a whitetail deer is interesting. 30-30 is the most common deer round of all time and they have a very similar wound channel (depending on bullet) to that of a 308. In the ozarks most people use 45-70s to deer hunt because of brush. Seen many deer killed with many different rifles. 308 is my preferred whitetail round by far
@@andrewodell4454 I guess I would rather miss further to the hind quarter rather than the shoulder. Also if it is a doe I try to hit it in the head or neck
AR10 308 serves both needs ... security and hunting and I can bare the weight difference. It’s a choice and when you consider ammo availability, muzzle velocity above 200 yards impact psi all as the bigger picture I’ll take the AR10 all day. But again it is a personal choice.
@@jamesjones4309 I can fight just fine. I have both platforms and enjoy shooting the smaller platform immensely. While My pen 🖊 size is not your concern I sense you my struggle in that department as you felt the need to belittle someone based on your inability to adequately debate with reason and logic rather than apply intellectual fortitude and didactic dialog. I hope I didn’t offend you with my reasoning for preferring the AR10 platform, but let me also add that in My home state 5.56mm is not an approved round for hunting medium to large game thus making a smaller caliber less useful than the AR10 platform which does allow for larger calibers. Please allow me to respectfully request that any further debate on this matter not involve pen size since you are obviously out of your league and I refuse to have a battle wits and intellect with an unarmed individual. It just isn’t fair.
@@ChrisB10 He sounds like puberty hasn't quite dropped his nutz. As far as his comment on .308 "destroying" a deer, that comes down to shot placement. Which he would know if he had "tons of experience." Dude is just a bitch.
The AR10 is generally heavier and more expensive. It also; Has less drop Cuts through wind better Higher velocity Heavier bullet More energy Greater practical hunting distances Easier to find ammunition Easier to find BDC reticles Ammo is 10-20% cheaper on average Can be used to take larger game. 6.8 SPC would have been a better AR15 caliber to compare, still doesn’t beat 308 tho.
@@longrangeautist6117Who said anything about better? I said the 6.8 SPC was more comparable to a 6.5g than a 308. 308 is nothing like a 6.5g. It is vastly superior for hunting, especially deer. This kid needs a bit more life experience before he makes a fool of himself online.
I wasn’t thinking relative to the 308Win. Rather the 6.8 vs the 6.5. In the same barrel length the 6.8SPC is typically only marginally better than a 6.5G. However the 6.5G has a case design that allows for heavier, higher BC projectiles and once you get to 200 yards the 6.5G would be just barely better…generally speaking.
Lol the ar15 will always be lighter. So no matter how gym time it just makes more sense to carry and use the 15. Why carry 10lbs when you can carry 7lbs and do the same job?
@@jordanvanmeter1020 did you watch the video? I have never seen 6.5 Grendel make an animal suffer. If my argument was for a 223 I would agree, but its not.
lol im pretty sure you lost everyone after claiming the 6.5 grendel was "a little" less powerful than .308 winchester. 6.5 grendel is barely over half the energy.
I have an ar10 in 243 win that takes deer just fine. I have an ar10 in 338 federal that takes bison or moose just fine. I have an ar10 in 6.5 creedmoor that works at 1km just fine. I have ar15's that do stuff at shorter ranges on smaller animals.....it's all about the right tool for the right job.
When he said deer hit with 223 just walk off let me know all I needed to cut this video off. All I can say is shot placement is way more important then bullet weight or caliber
@@codyjarreau9847 Deer may be hard to hunt, but they sure as heck aren't hard to kill. A 62 grain gold dot at 3000 FPS (easily doable with a 20 inch barrel) will kill the biggest deer in the woods if you put the bullet where it needs to go and stay inside lethal range. With that said, Here in eastern North Carolina, the places that hold good deer also have black bears. I'm too chicken shit to leave my AR10 at home when venturing into bear country.
Long story short... if you feel uncomfortable carrying the extra weight of the AR10, then you aren't ready for AR10 hunting. Plenty of alternatives like .300 AAC for AR15 that are just as good for hunting, but .308 Win can pretty much take down any big game in North America and has already been proven...
I now have all three of the Goodies. 300 Blk Pistol & Rifle, AR-10 308, SASS, and AR-15 Grendel SPR. Seems what and where I'd hunt would determine what was humped in the field.
300blk is a great round, but it is not just as good as .308 for hunting. Can you hunt deer with it? Do they use the same bullet? Ya, but I would not say .300 is just as good for hunting, even if I try to think of an area where it could be considered just as good… it’s like saying a 30-30 is just as good as a .308. Is it because they’re both .30 cal bullets?
Saw this review on my TV, and had to come on line to comment. I have an Armalite AR-10-T that's probably older than this young man (kid). Got mine before Armalite put SS barrels on them. I watched his vid twice before it sunk in. The title is wrong, but the point is well made. I converted my 10-T to a SASS configuration; cut and threaded the barrel, adjustable gas block, new Armalite handguards, PRS Stock. Kids right, it's heavy, but it puts eight, 168 grain Nosler CC's in 5/8 of an inch with a load of RL-15. Some time later (years) , I got tuned in to the 6.5 Grendel. Pulled a 16 inch factory out of a Bushmaster AR-15, and put a heavy SS, 18 inch barrel from Atheris Barrel Co, in it. The rifles have identical features, including the PRS stock. The AR-10 SASS is around 15 pounds, the AR-15 in 6.5 Grendel weighs less than 10. The 18 inch Grendel barrel is no light weight, as I shoot lots of rounds on a range day. Both weights include the optic. By the way, the Grendel put six 123 grain, Midway seconds into .699 at 100. Four of the six were in a .460 cluster. I'd much rather hump the AR-15, than the AR-10. As for 308 vs 6.5, it depends on what you want to do with it. It's SASS vs SPR. Deer will go down with both, but I bet they go down more soundly with the right 30 caliber bullet. However, IMHO, there isn't a better caliber for an AR-15 than 6.5 Grendel, especially if you reload. Just think about what you're naming your Vids, Kid. Try, "Performance vs Weight."
I can bear the weight difference.. I have 3 ar15s, theyre great in their own regards. But a ar10 in 308 fits more of my needs.. range, power and take down ability.
When you can launch a 155 grain projectile with a BC of .455 2700 FPS from an AR15, you will have my attention. Now that comes with some caveats, weight being at the top of the list. Rather than choosing between the two, I have both. While I'm here I waiting to see how the 6mm ARC turns out. If its not another flop, it may well be my next cartridge of choice for my AR15 collection.
@@ElliottDelp If the 6mm ARC turns out to be what I hope it is, It may be the cartridge that relegates my AR10 to the target line. The Ballistics on the 105 grain 600 ARC are impressive enough to be my new go to deer cartridge if the hype holds up.
So first off I aint gonna sit here and criticize you even if I might not agree with you 100% for the simple fact that as a guy who is trying to get a youtube channel off the ground I know the pain of making and editing youtube videos and your's are looking pretty good. Secondly for the people criticizing you for not mentioning .308 being better for long range I may be wrong but I'm willing to bet from that accent you come from the HEAVILY wooded state of Tennessee. where the average range of visibility is under 300 yards where as here in south central Kansas unless I'm hunting prime river ground I'm taking shots at or over 300 yards. So long range capabilities would not be as important to you merely because you don't really need them. Anyhow good video man keep em coming you've gained a new subscriber.
Thank you for the comment! You don't know how much I appreciate a constructive comment, everyone is always so hateful and negative. You weren't far off. I am from Southwest VA. Thanks for watching!
I agree 100%but as for myself I own both ar10 and ar15 and love them both for their capabilities and like most tools they have their place in the tool box and work really well for the job they are needed for keep up the great work this video made me a subscriber
I dunno dude, a 20-22” Grendel shoots a 120gr at about 2400-2500ft/s. A 16” .308 will shoot a 175gr at the same velocities. Both rifles will likely still weigh the same, but the .308 will have more muzzle energy in a shorter package. At this point, your only trade off is recoil vs overall length.
For me my only rifle was a 7mm rem mag on a nice rem 700 wooden stock. Great gun and lethal to all big game I would hunt but not a gun I’d want to lug up a mountain in the rain and snow. Just ordered my first AR-10 with the thought it would be my travel to hunt and kick around in the dirt gun all while maintaining stopping power on big game.
Kinda the issue for me is I can't really DO the same job with an AR-15. I can kinda cover it out to a certain distance, but you pretty quickly come across the ballistic limits of the .223 and 5.56 rounds.
I have ar15s chambered in 300 blk ,556/223 and an ar10 chambered in 308 . I hunt suppressed here in Texas , I can get a lot more shots off with the 300 blk 220 gr subs (Hornady subx reloads )than I can both the other rifles . But I’ll admit for the hog side of hunting the velocity of the 308 in a quality hunting round (amax reload or controlled kaos) really drops the hogs . So for me I kinda lean on that more , predator hunting I typically pack the 223/556 flat(solid copper projectiles hyper velocities)shooting out too 400-500 yards not the best suppression but not horrible either . I feel either of these rifles do what I need , mostly because I reload my own ammunition for the type of hunting I’m doing . Hope y’all have a safe year of hunting and shooting
I appreciate you views. I switched to AR10 for most my uses. I build mine in DPMS high LR308 platform. Very common and really is now becoming the standard. If I hunt White tail I just throw my 6.5 creedmore upper on it. If I go to Wilson combat barrel options I can get a barrel in 7mm- 08, 260 REM, 308, 6.5 creedmore, and 243 Winchester. I have found situations dictate my tool. Sometimes, the AR-15 makes sense, then others the AR10 or bolt gun take place. When I'm Alaska I carry a lighter AR10 in 308. I shoot it well and can deploy fast for those pesky bears. Home defense AR-15 in 300 BLK Out. I appreciate you taking the time to make a video.
6.5 grendel is a great deer round (within a certain range) however it is nowhere near the power of a .308. Hornadys website for example has on average a .308 running 2700 ft/lbs of energy vs an average of 1800 for the grendel. Thats 65% of the power.
Destroy deer? Wtf…The term “destroy” is better off being used to describe that time when you met a cute girl at a party, took her home, and destroyed that salami sandwich.
Another benefit of the ar15 is parts compatibility. You don’t have to worry about dpms vs. Armalite pattern parts. Controversial videos are my favorite
If the AR-10 feels heavy get a sling like an M60 sling, sling the rifle across your back supporting it with both shoulders. It takes the weight out of your hands and feels much more comfortable.
Universal Law wish it was still $650.... I have a gen 2 and really would like a 6.5 in the gen 3 but with everything going on I have a hard time justifying paying 1k for it.
I've been hunting whitetails here in NC all my life and have been using a .308 Win for the past 30 years during gun season and have taken over a hundred deer anywhere from 30 yds out to 250 yds with it and I have never destroyed a deer. I have quickly and humanely harvested them, yes, but never have I seen a .308 Win completely destroy a deer, even with soft points and the infamous exploding Winchester Supreme Ballistic Silvertips in deer of all sizes. It's not even a magnum or long action cartridge. It's actually less powerful than a 30-06, same projectile, slightly less velocity and energy. Bullet selection and shot placement are way more important factors in the deer woods imo. A good wound channel with an exit is what you want to make good blood trails if not dumping the animal drt (dead right there). As they say tho, to each their own! Enjoyed your video none the less friend. Safe hunting 👍👍
So someone please correct me if I'm wrong but personally I bought a lower for both because with the ar-15 lower I can have a 5.56,300 blko, .22, 50 beo all with different uppers and the same with a variety for the ar-10. That was the beauty ( coming from a military background ) of that platform to begin with, one gun can be a shit ton. Especially if you sbr it.
From what I understand, if you file for a SBR, you can no longer mix match. That upper is then tied to that lower. They make very nice braces now so you don’t have to file for a SBR. Also if you’re going with a barrel between 13.9” and 15.9” you can do a pin and weld to make it 16”.
Perfectly explained by a young man with little time on this earth since he came out of his mom's womb, ie knows nothing, but thinks he knows everything
This is genuinely the first time I've ever heard a .308 is too powerful. Was definitely a refreshing opinion. I'll continue smoking muleys with my .300 win tho (hand loads ofc). But your opinions aren't too far off base
I purchased a 300 AAC BO for hunting because it's illegal to hunt white tail with less than a .24 caliber in WV and considered converting it over to 6.5 Grendel to hunt with for a few reasons. The 300 BO doesn't shoot flat like the Grendel or 308 Winchester and works on the AR 15 platform. You are correct in your statement the 6.5 Grendel and the 308 ballistics are almost identical the exception being muzzle velocity. The 308 has a higher muzzle velocity than the 6.5 Grendel, however at 600 yards the Grendel will have a higher fps than the 308 due to bullet weight. I chose against the 6.5 Grendel due to one reason, ammunition availability. Which caliber is more popular, 6.5 Grendel or 308 Win? An AR 10 chambered in 308 Win can shoot 7.62/51 NATO as well. The AR 15 isn't superior, in your video it's lighter and less expensive. To sum this up I have both an AR 15 300 AAC BO for home defense and a AR 10 308 Win to hit someone faster than me from one mountain top to the other or white tail deer whichever comes first.
You make some decent points. I have ar10's in 243 winchester, 6.5 creed, and 338 federal. I can take any game on the north american continent and scale down to not destroy white tail. I'm a big Army vet so a heavy rifle isn't going to affect me too much. It's about the right tool for the right job. philosophy of use for your weapon is key. I would not use 338 federal for home defense. and I would not use 5.56 for Nilgai. All in all a well done video. We just disagree on some details.
I thumbs downed at.... ".308 bullet demolishes whitetail deer" and "my buddies absolutely destroy the deer with their big AR-10's". You can certainly make the argument that the AR-10 is heavier than the AR-15 and depending on how you hunt that may become an issue. But trying to make the argument that a .308 is grossly overpowered for whitetailed deer is ridiculous.... that said I stuck around for the rest of the video and most of what you say I do agree with. I also removed my dislike...
Appreciate it.. I think.... idk.... 308 isn’t bad for deer. I just think there are better suited calibers. Maybe I expressed it wrong. Obvious by the amount of dislikes. Regardless. I do end up tossing a shoulder away almost everytime I hunt with the 308. I appreciate you watching!
@@ElliottDelp besides that it was good. I have killed several deer with my AR 10 but I prefer my lighter bolt actions. The AR 10 is heavy, especialy of you're stalk hunting and not sitting in a shooting house. I prefer 7mm-08 for whitetails but wouldn't be against try the grendel.
@@ElliottDelp I think anything bigger than a 243 and shot square in the shoulder will usually lead to the exit would shoulder getting tore up pretty good. Ideally you want to shoot just behind the shoulder to save the meat but even with the 308 they occasionally run 50yds. Anything that penetrates all the way through will usually tear up the opposite shoulder. I'll take that over under penetrating rounds that don't leave a blood trail.
@@mdees88 We'd hunt whitetails with everything from .223 (barely adequate and iirc not legally big enough in some states) to 30-30 to 30-06 to .270 to .308 so it's an average deer gun.
@@trevors8577 Yeah that's what I was getting at. 308 is not overkill, it's basically adequate and doesn't "demolish" or "destroy" deer as was mentioned....
Genuine advice and good for some people who are looking at both. IMO with how inflated ar15 prices are I rather just shell out the tiny bit extra and have more stopping power
He's young and is trying and loves guns, so I'll cut him some slack. If you hunt deer or hogs, 5.56 AR-15 is plenty. If you live out West and hunt Elk, the AR10 is better. However, I like both but will use a lighter bolt gun for elk hunting. If you only have or want one gun, then I could argue it should be an AR, for when the SHTF or home defense, etc. etc. Also, some of the newer AR 10s are very light.
if its heavy hit the gym. try doing bicep workouts one day and tricep works outs the next! after about a month or two you should be able to handle it just fine.
At 55 I can promise you Ive slayed a ton of deer, started hunting at 7 years old. My recommendation? Work out son, if the 308 is too heavy, I'm 6' and 250 lbs of mostly muscle. My Gen 2 PSA 308 has become my favorite deer rifle. I have the 12.5" Grendel and have used both, the 308 decisively smashes deer, the Grendel requires solid shot placement but does the job. I've killed with the 5.56, it's effective if your shot is spot on
I shoot big hogs at distance of 300 plus yards sometimes. I have seen them shake off light bullets. Yes the AR15 has its place and chambered in 350 legend is a great brush cartridge. Bigger game and longer shots require big bullets moving fast.
I have to strongly disagree with your comment saying that the Ar-15 is better in so many more uses than the Ar-10. That’s simply false. A rifle should be built by the owner for an intended use or uses. A 10 can be used for mid to long range targets and just as easily be made for cqb- mid range. (Pistol or sbr). The 7.62x51 is a very powerful cartridge that retains a ton of kinetic energy at distance as well as low recoil similar to 5.56. You made a good argument but it’s very compartmentalized to certain applications. I’ve seen people run 10s for 3 gun and smoke people with 15s. The 10 is just as modular as the 15 and can be built for a wide range or purposes, maybe ever wider than the 15 given its long range capabilities.
Agreed but I still prefer my ar15. I personally have never been in a situation that the 15 couldnt do the job of the 10 and I think for the vast majority of people they won’t either. I 100% agree the ar10 has been long range potential and can be built and made to work for almost anything. It’s just personal preference. Thanks for the constructive comment. The 2A community can be a lot some times.
Elliott Delp I agree man. I guess living in Alaska I’m biased. The 556 isn’t gonna stop a grizz or moose chargin at ya 😂. Keep up the good work man, you gained a follower.
I live in montana and got an Ar10 for elk/deer hunting. Its definitely heavier than a bolt gun, but 2lbs makes no difference when you're planning on adding +100lbs of meat to your pack. Plus, im always in grizzly country and would much rather have my ar10 over a bolt gun if i run into an aggressive grizzly. Imo every hunter should have an ar10.
Young man..I give you full props for putting yourself and your thoughts out here for all the world to criticize, its noble. Now if your going to get on here and say don't hunt with an AR10 you should have your facts more organized and your information arranged in a manner that is less confusing to the viewer. You are all over the place with what you are trying to say. I agree a 6.5 Grendel is an excellent hunting round. Lite platform with hard hitting ballistic properties in an ar15. However, it took you forever to get that point out there. I have both .308 and 6.5 Grendel, I hunt with both. Yep the ar10 is a heavyweight, thats no reason to mark it off as don't use for hunting. The situation will dictate its uses. A rifle is a tool..for a specific job, just like a hammer. You wouldn't use a framing hammer for cabinet work. Hunting from a stand with an ar10...doable.....hunting big horn sheep in the Rockies...not the best idea....but doable... I hunt with an M1A in all kinds of conditions and situations. Its a man's rifle...and when you squeeze the trigger...it means business. Point here is this...don't condemn the tool...use the right tool for the job. Keep up the good work.
good insight, I really appreciate your comment. Especially since you didn't just attack me off the start like most people do. I agree. Right tool for the right job approach.
@@ElliottDelp attacking a person who is trying to relay their thoughts and ideas to other people is of no use to me. It serves noone. I fully understood what you were saying, you had factual information but it was scattered within your conversation. Nothing to attack a person for there, but if you want to be successful in a conversation on a topic such as, and as complex as firearms, the more organized your facts and ideas are the better your conversation/argument will be received. I was an infantryman for many years...I have humped some of the heaviest man portable weapons systems ever made...I knew what you were getting at. Just wanted to give you some pointers on your delivery....it will make your channel more appealing to those looking for insight. Haters...they are going to hate. Fuck em! Keep doing your thing....
I use my lr-308 for my brush gun for bear hunting . Not saying I have not used it for deer hunting . Never have destroyed a deer with 308. The difference is 223 I only trust out to a little over 200 yards . The ar-10 or lr-308 are accurate and more knock down power for around 400 yards . Plus the real knock down power of the 308 against the 223 . 223 would not do the job that I expect from my 308 . I have carried my lr-308 for many miles hunting with no problems .
I've never hunted before. So I went with the Diamondback AR10 18" 308 for the "forgiveness" in shot placement. 223 requires good shot placement or several followup shot, and that is if the target does run off to die. 308 will drop them in their spot. I'd rather miss some meat/pelt than miss the whole animal. That's how I'm approaching it.
I use 7mm rem mag for whitetail 150gr soft point.. also have used .243 100gr, .308 150gr, 223/556 55gr, 25-06 100gr , and even a .3030 (gr weight that I forget now cause it's been so long..) I've been around and shot my fair share of deer rifles,
The ar15, and the ar10 serve completely different purposes. Tou cant compare them like that maybe someone wants be shoot deer from 500 yards away, that's when they would chose the ar10 over the ar15, they just serve different purposes.
308 is better for DMRs than 223. Also one of the more popular larger rounds. Also more effective at stopping armed crackheads. Part of the reason why they invented 458 SOCOM. In the end it depends on your needs. AR15 should be sufficient for most people.
Yeah you definitely right about the armored crack heads lol but I havnt had to take in any of those yet. I hope I won’t have to 😂 thanks for watching!!
I love my grendel's lots of fun 16"/24" and excellent for whitetail, within reasonable ranges, but bigger game at 300 yards like elk I have more respect for the animal. A gun is a tool plain and simple, use the right tools for the job. I'm 6'4" 280lbs and with a good sling the weight doesn't really bother me. (Ar10 308 20" barrel side charging .75 moa 5 rounds hand loads.)
Son, I applaud you for trying to get into the gun tube field. You did an excellent job of making your case. I would highly disagree with you even though I do love the 65 Grendel. It’s really like comparing apples to oranges. AR 15s aren’t necessarily meant for hunting although I use them for that in many others do as well. It’s kind of a do it all rifle I would not use a 65 Grendel or any AR 10 for home Defense. While they could be you have to think of things like penetration, etc. etc. there’s better options. Availability of ammo is not even close. You can find 308 anywhere on earth and that is not in the case for 65 grendel which, in my opinion didn’t seem to catch the traction, it was hoping to. The AR gives you the ability to hunt almost any animal on this planet to longer ranges. No deer is demolished by a 308. I have personally seen hogs killed with a 308 and 65 Grendel and they don’t hit even close to the same. Also if a gun weighs too much in my opinion and I’m reaching my 50s just work out more. I want to validate all of your hard work and your venture into putting yourself out there at the end of the day. These are all subjective opinions so really the only ones who’s matters is your own. I would venture to guess most people looking at AR 10 already own 15. I am glad you brought diamond back up because that is a great brand. It’s super reliable. I have the diamondback DMB it runs like a train. Great budget brand.
.223 isn't legal for big game in Colorado - you have to be shooting at least a .24 caliber round. There are minimums for bullet weight and ft/lbs of energy at 100 yards as well. I hate the weight and size when I'm walking around for sure, but AR-10 is an elk getter, and that's what I hunt. I hunt antelope and deer as well, and take headshots so I don't lose meat (and so I don't have to deal with the soupy mess when field dressing)
For a younger man looks mid 20’s he did very good explanation I’m 39 and couldn’t do that good I do own a ar10 it is very heavy but it’s a 308 lol I won’t complain
Buy what you like and and use it. The biggest factor in securing game is the nut at the end of the stick ( wood or plastic). Before I got so I couldn't hunt I used a Savage110B in 30/06. Over the years I dropped over50 deer and antelope. I could have done it with a270, or 25/05, or 257 Roberts, or308 , or 8 Mauser, or you name dozens of other cartridges.
Like many of the other people have commented on here already is WHY turn down the rifle saying it destroys the animal, if your a true gun nut look into different types of bullets for the type of animal. I live in Texas where I have shot and killed plenty of hogs with my 223 with well placed nosler bullets. I have also hunted deer with my 223. I have also hunted whitetails, muledeer, hogs, antelope, nilgaii, exoctics, and aoudads all with my nemo omen in 300 winmag but no two animals use the same type of bullet some I would prefer a ballistic tip and some I would rather have an open tip match round. The 243 is also a great round that benefits from good bullet selection and yes many of these animal I have named have been taken with this round as well. But many of these animals have also been taken with my ar15s in different calibers as well bullet selection plays a big role. So before knocking the ar10 off because it causes too much damage try different bullets, if its too heavy then i suggest sitting in a blind and prop it on a tripod.
The reason I bought an AR-10? My dad and my older brother used 7mm mags for hunting. Both mule deer, and elk. My dad always told me the .308 can effectively kill ANY animal on this continent. I had a .308 Savage model 99e, I made several one shot kills with open sights in excess of 400 yd. My dad then gave me his winchester model 88 .308. UNBELIEVABLE RIFLE, and it actually had a scope! MUCH MORE successful hunting! Later on I bought a 7mm mag. Stainless barrel, composite stock, very light, no recoil pad. I still have the model 88, have no interest in owning another 7mm mag. THAT'S WHY I bought the AR-10. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
In Germany it's not allowed to hunt hogs with a caliber smaller than 6.5 Millimeters and with less than 2000 joule at 100 meters, so I'm using an AR-10/.308. 🤷♂I have the pretty much same thing in AR-15/.223 for training, though. 😉
Grab a springfield saint Victor 308. Just a touch over 7lbs. Great deer gun. Not sure what yout talking about. 308 is prolly the best all round deer load.
Building an AR10 currently. Gonna cost me about 900 but that’s with some higher end stuff. I have an AR15 in 450 bushmaster. (Can’t used tapered cartridges in my neck of the woods). I’ll have both in my gun cabinet.
You can get a short AR10 out here in Washington can't shoot deer with 5.56. Not sure about 6.5 grendel but I just got one and finished my 308 and have a 6.5 creedmoor barrel to throw in it too.
They make fluted barrels and for the AR platform. Weight can be reduced in your backpack gear or carry less ammo, I have all but the grendel an like them all. I was told that 308 is good for elk an I already have the ar10. Great video, keep it up.
I’ve got an AR-10 I built from Aero Precision parts. It shoots a tad above MOA at 100 yards using Hornady precision hunter ammo and sub MOA with gold medal BTHP. If I’m going hog/ deer hunting I’m definitely going to bring my AR-10. I used to hunt hogs with my AR15 in 223 but since I built the big boy I never hunt without the .308
Get a 7.62 NATO/.308 bullpup rifle, I cannot recommend it enough. It's like they cast some damn blood-sacrifice magic spell at the factory to get an 18-inch barrel in a platform that's 26-27ish inches overall. Depending on the rifle, it's usually at a manageable weight, in my opinion. Regardless, the compactness really makes it feel fantastic.
The 10 and 15 aren't that much different in weight it about 1-2 lbs respectfully. It's your health really if you workout 💪eat like healthy that rifle, back pack, ammo, boots should not be all that bad again consider your health I have an ar10 and people show age over the rifle that is true.
It's recommended to never shoot a whitetail with less than 1000 ft/lbs of energy on your bullet. For a 223/5.56, even heavier grains like 75g or 77g, that's only about 100-150 yds to safely kill an adult deer. For elk, it's 1500 ft/lbs of energy. No way I'd ever take a damn AR15 deer hunting. You're just too limited on range. In contrast, a 168g 308 (kind of a standard hunting load) has over 1000 ft/lbs of energy at 600 yds. You can also safely kill an elk at 400 yds. There's a reason why the 223 was never traditionally used by deer hunters in N America and theres a reason why the 308 is one of the most popular medium sized gamer calibers there is.
"It's so big its so heavy" 308 for hunting dear is almost perfect. Also 6.5 is trash compared to 308 if where you are the ammo is the same price go for the 308
Terrible points of view overall. Get your thoughts together before rambling. And this video didn’t age well considering 6.5 Grendel is nearly impossible to find.
If you weigh over 200# the weight difference is negligible. The ar15 will never be an ar10, I own a few of both. You have it backwards ar10 for game ar15 for defense against man bent on harm. If you have to pick one ar10 hands down wins in all categories except weight. I hunt large game, the smallest deer I have shot in last 15 years weighed over 200# and I also have elk on my ranch so I carry heavier calibers. I do own an ar15 chambered in 7.62x39, that is what I keep on hand for most situations, it is alot more devastating on things with more body mass. Thanks for the video!!!
I have a 556 rifle CZ bren for small game and if I need to lay down alot of ammo fast. My 308 Galil Ace is for longer shots and bigger game and in a shtf scenario I will carry the bren and husband will carry the galil
For me it's ammo availablebilety and legality. Where I'm from, you can own a 5.56, but it's harder to get registered and it's much harder to find than 308 or 6.5 creedmore.
