Why You Should Roll with BJJ White Belts Like It’s a Fight

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Today's video is from a BJJ White Belt who's about 2 years into Brazilian Jiu-jitsu and says that he is always getting injured. His question is whether or not BJJ is even right for him. Possibly he's too fragile or something.
Now I cannot answer that question, because who knows? I've seen some seemingly frail people become expert grapplers while some stout dudes ended up quitting early on.
Instead, I went on to ask him more about his rolling and he said he tries to take things slow and easy during rolling. Now this might seem like a smart idea, and against higher BJJ belts it can be.
But as I'll explain in the video. Rolling like this against lower belts can be downright dangerous.
Hopefully the video is useful to you with your training and hopefully helps you avoid some injuries.
-Chewy
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@espada9 2 года назад

I seem to encounter 2 types of white belts and treat them both differently. The younger athletic or "spazy" white belts who are out to win ADCC gold each roll I have to smash, so they settle down and use technique. The other white belt who is timid and unsure I try and help with basic concepts so that each time they roll they start to build some defense and can come up with a plan of attack based off technique. The strong college wrestlers are another story, at 58 years old sometimes it's just survival and treachery when I can get away with it.

@natesmith5778 2 года назад

This is why you should never fight an old man

@espada9 2 года назад

@@natesmith5778 I prefer to roll with older higher level belts, even if I know their technique is levels above mine and I will eventually get caught I learn more and can "play jiu jitsu" instead of get into some frantic grappling battle. Having a good competitive roll with someone who has skill is for me the best part of jiujitsu. On occasion I'll do some hard rounds but again I prefer it be with someone older with skills.

@andrecheongavocadojudo2114 2 года назад

Yep. I had a few "Future ADCC, $20000 on-the-line, spazzy white belt" encounters before. Lesson of the day, smash them.

@moos138 2 года назад

40 year old here. For me the college wrestler white belt is the hardest and grueling for me

@rivaldad88 2 года назад

Timid two stripe white belt here. Not quite to 40 yet, but the HS/college wrestlers hurt the most. I’ve found I learn the most and get the best feedback from guys that roll like you’ve described.

@mattgchev 2 года назад

Back when I was able to do bjj, as a white belt, I was told by higher ranks that I was great to roll with. I just kept calm and tried to figure out what in the world I was supposed to be doing, maybe get a better position/ submission, but most of all, that nobody got hurt. Maybe that was my kickboxing background kicking in, I dunno... but when I rolled with other white belts, it was like Hell in a Cell with a racoon on cocaine

@darkmagician1710 Год назад

Hopefully not literally when you say your kickboxing background kicking in lol

@pxrxsweatyxgaming4554 Год назад

definitely just consideration on your part.

@m5a1stuart83 Год назад

Racoon with Rabies

@CatsBanana-1983 Год назад

OMG. I am totally stealing hell in a cell with a racoon on cocaine.

@thekingscardboard Год назад

Hell in a cell, raccoon on cocaine. This is the MVP of quotes right here

@josephbreza-grappling9459 2 года назад

A friend I roll with asked me “but why are those crazy whitebelts so strong?” I asked him, “how long has it been since you’ve had adrenaline while training?” They are full of adrenaline, because they are scared, so they are truly going 100%. You’ve probably gone nowhere near 100% for a long long time. Once they stop being so scared, then they won’t be so stiff and full of adrenaline. Best thing is to take it seriously enough to just keep them from hurting themselves or you. They can’t keep up that pace forever. I don’t even work submissions all that much, I just get position. If it happens then ok, but a lot of them don’t even know that they should tap when they really ought to. More often than not, I will use chokes over joint locks, because a lot of them won’t tap and don’t know how much danger they are in. When they are full of adrenaline, they literally can’t think that they are capable of ending it with a simple tap. Stay safe out there

@raymondramos1413 2 года назад

amen

@goprojoe7449 2 года назад

White Belts (like myself) are sometimes real alphas just trying something new that's why

@josephbreza-grappling9459 2 года назад

@@goprojoe7449 all you see is red, huh? Hahahaha. I get it. I’m glad you tried it out, it’s good for people. Keep it up.

@goprojoe7449 2 года назад

@@josephbreza-grappling9459 I bodied my opponent, it was fun.

@KingJeraldL46 Год назад

Best description I’ve read so far. White belt, 45 yo, 4 months in. First 3-6 weeks was full speed ahead and quick fizzle on energy. Now I am a lot slower and try to use technique vs strength (6’2”, 265lbs). Trying to learn then held to use strength. My instructor/coach goes at me and I end up trying to frame and shrimp. I’ll follow up in a few months on my progress. Oss

@Patrick-sh9tt 2 года назад

I always roll with white belts to comletely shut them down and submit them without injuring them. It´s about a good a gauge as you have to how effective your jiu jitsu actually is. Rolling against higher belts is usually more of a game and/or you know eachothers´ game. The unpredictable nature of white belts/beginners is what makes them so indespensable as training partners.

@mattpatt199 2 года назад

Man as a white belt.. rolling with someone like you is what helps me improve and it also gets me used to being "in the fire" so to speak. I believe from those rolls i developed a lot of resilience and comfort in shit positions. Of course then you learn how to escape those situations or not find yourself in them.. hopefully haha

@calebschaaf1555 2 года назад

That’s a fascinating take, @Patrick. I wouldn’t have thought of that. I always feel badly when I roll with upper belts, because I feel like I’m not helping them get any better. This gives me some confidence that I’m actually doing some good.

@3nt3rtain 2 года назад

@@calebschaaf1555 Every roll teaches everyone something, if they roll to learn... Belts aside, I view every roll as... Practice control and offense against a less skilled player, Practice defense and offense against an equal player, Practice defense and escapes against more skilled players... Sometimes more skilled players will allow others positions so they can work what they want to... I'm honestly never rolling to "win", just to get better. 🙂🙃

@Patrick-sh9tt 2 года назад

Also, Always wear a mouth guard when rolling with newbies and beginner white belts. The opponent needs to be respected always, no matter the perceived level, and that means you need to be ready to meet whatever challenge they throw at you. You don’t get to decide if they go slow or fast or rough or smooth, you have to adapt to them.

@marklanda6824 2 года назад

Agree 100 percent!

@Swuesman28 2 года назад

Good video. As a blue belt myself, I just see it as an opportunity to simulate what grappling with someone off the street might be like, probably untrained, possibly strong, drunk, or on drugs, and definitely meaning me bodily harm. So I just try to shut them down with technique BEFORE they get a chance to injure me or themselves. It doesn’t always work, but I think it’s a good mindset to work from.

@Alvin-xs7db 2 года назад

Whitebelts will f* you up if you go too easy on them

@nicks1169 2 года назад

Sorry bro it’s my 7th class

@mightymikethebear 2 года назад

Especially when dealing with the bull strong freaks of nature who are just too eager and make dumb mistakes.

@Alvin-xs7db 2 года назад

@@mightymikethebear and don't you dare let them catch you in a headlock 🤣

@mightymikethebear 2 года назад

@@Alvin-xs7db speaking facts brother

@BillyBlanks-qm5yt Месяц назад

Yeah, we also don't know when a submission will injure the other guy so tap on time.

@ucrsae 2 года назад

I completely agree. I never thought of it the way you phrased it, but it is more of a fight. I focus on very dominant positions like gift wraps and back control to eliminate the spaziness of white belts. I’m 47 and have been doing BJJ for 2 1/2 years. I roll hard with everyone because I’m the old man in the gym. Gotta represent.

@Torey1976 2 года назад

Represent bro! I'm 45 and have been training for over 3 years, but we have a purple belt in his 70s, a white belt that's in his 60s and a 53 y.o. that should be getting his purple belt soon because he steam rolls through me every night and I love it lol.

@JK-uo3pd 2 года назад

@micha crossman Right on man. Here here. I’m 46 coming up to three years. I feel there’s a few young guys that always wanna piece of me and get the sub in a death match. Keep representing the old man strength and take their souls!

@ZapPy91 2 года назад

Perfect timing. I’m a blue belt and I’m used to play not fight with some of the white belts. Until yesterday when one of them came from a sort of turtle, back turned to me, elbow swinging twister right in my mouth. He didn’t mean it , but I took it as my fault for not controlling his movements. Note to self for next time. Thanks for the video !

@jamestickle3070 2 года назад

Great example last night. I’m white belt, so was he. I’m heavy fat and he was heavy fit. Lucky me. He started very aggressive and had me in technical mount. I got a little lucky and swept to side control. I got a choke. He took forever to tap. I just gradually kept tightening not trying to be a douche. Eventually he gave up and tapped. But he was super pissed. After we caught our breath we started again and he came at me like a freight train. Smashed me into the mat and got super aggressive on an arm lock. I tapped quickly but he still cranked my elbow a bit. I left the mat, got some water, and called it a day. Ego.

@jimreily7538 2 года назад

How'd you sweep him from mount to side control please ?

@edmondlau511 2 года назад

In a situation like that, I’m talking to the professor. Idiots like that are going to permanently hurt someone and hurt the business owner. They don’t belong around other people. A good professor will have an open door policy and 2 way feedback with everyone no matter the rank of the student.

@naturalianoss 2 года назад

@@edmondlau511 also some people have a poor understanting of why they actually train in a contact sport..i guess.

@edmondlau511 2 года назад

@@naturalianoss there's a difference between aggressive and being reckless.

@jamestickle3070 2 года назад

@@jimreily7538 it wasn’t full mount it was technical mount so I was on my side and his legs were like a figure S as he sat on my side. He made a mistake with one of his legs while he was trying to pull my arm free. I was holding my own gi. I felt his weight shift so I scooped his other ankle and he went over. To be honest it wasn’t pretty we are both white belts. I landed on his legs and squirmed up to side control with him sort of half on his back half on his side and my knees under him. Hope that helps

@nerdobject5351 2 года назад

I feel this video speaks directly to me. I’m going through this realization that trying to be more playful and slow just doesn’t work with white belts. I’ve also been taking injuries from white belts by try to play. No more.

@andrecheongavocadojudo2114 2 года назад

I agree with you fully.

@adamwood87 2 года назад

yup, some white belts you can allow to play around, and they'll actually use technique. others... let's just say there's a certain... type... of white belt whose instinct is to use 100% strength, just grab any body part, squeeze and crush until they get a tap.

@joeboom9084 2 года назад

I rolled with a white belt on his second day of training and he broke my neck. I strongly suggest that when rolling with brand new white belts stick with limited rolling and teaching them how to relax and be more thoughtful.

@kenseisato1989 2 года назад

Rolling is like a dance/talk. I believe it has to do with selfishness, poor self awareness, and ego. Most people start at almost zero when rolling first. Who wants to dance with the guy that goes at a faster rhythm then you or the guy who talks just to hear himself talk? You get most out of a dance when things are in synch. You get most out of a talk when information and ideas are exchanged. You get the most out of a roll when you can roll more because you're not injured/exhausted from competing/defending against someone

@douglas7260 Год назад

This is literally me. I just started and try to take it easy. I am training 3 days per week. Some of these white belts go so hard and are using way more strength than technique. I have had 3 injuries so far (shoulder, right hand, left hand). Last time coach put me with a higher level white belt that had like 100 lbs. on me. I told him my shoulder was still recovering and he immediately starts going for a Kimura. I ended up really hurting my hand against him. I don't mind getting beat and learning, but at this rate with the injuries I am going to start missing class more and more due to recovery.

@rohitchaoji 2 года назад

As a newbie with some months of experience, I often find that rolling with higher belts is better because I'm not constantly worried about injuring my bicep AGAIN, as they don't crank submissions. It also helps me improve my technique because without correctly applying them, or just using brute strength, I find myself unable to do things like escapes, sweeps, passes, etc.

@Torey1976 2 года назад

It's weird, but usually the people who could literally kill you are the ones who will never injure you.

@rohitchaoji 2 года назад

@@Torey1976 I agree. I think to get to that level, there's a lot of discipline and strengthening of character involved. And also having consistent training partners who build their skills in parallel, and it's impossible to get them if they get injured.

@calebschaaf1555 2 года назад

Super helpful, thanks Chewy. My professor has told me things like this before, but hearing people put it different ways helps big time. When you said not to "go easy" when we were messaging, I told my wife what you said and we talked about it for a while. I used this advice on a first-day meat-head white belt in our gym yesterday and it really did save my bacon twice.

@jrizzy626 2 года назад

Great question Caleb! I have the exact same issues as you. I’m an old (46) white belt and I love playing the game, but I’m always getting dinged up by other white belts.

@calebschaaf1555 2 года назад

@@jrizzy626 my wife and I are in our early 30s, so we’re starting pretty early. All of our kids are doing jiu jitsu as well. Man, I wish I started when they did!

@Chewjitsu 2 года назад

Happy to help!

@dixonbuttes Год назад

This is hugely good advice. I once had a knee injury from a white belt who used to be a marine & just started grabbing legs and going insane. I didn’t wanna tell him to stop cuz I didn’t wanna be a wimp, but I was mad about it. My buddy just played it positionally and kept him contained

@chrisrobinson1805 2 года назад

Everyday as a whitebelt is a whitebelt deathmatch, especially brutal as a heavyweight. Even drills are a torture session, but still show up. Something must be wrong with me lol.

@oosik411 2 года назад

If someone is new,I always roll with them cautiously. Otherwise I’ve learned some people I need to tap early because they sub hard/fast and others will let me practice escapes and play around. Even blues in my class sometimes seem over zealous or rely on strength/speed that ends up injuring white belts.

@Scbirdsfan803 2 года назад

I’m a white belt. I’m older (39),a big guy, and usually only train against blue belts (mostly BC they are the other heavyweights). I find myself in an absolute brawl against other white belts. To the point where I have to try not to get us both injured. Given I’m a newbie too, I’m just spoiled by having controlled partners most of the time.

@haraldodunkirk1432 2 года назад

Very true. As a BB nogi coach, I’m sick of people complaining about rough white belts. IRL people won’t be silky smooth kiss of the dragon players, and we need to deal with that.

@nickhero6329 2 года назад

Just because irl fights arent smooth doesnt mean its okay to be rough/spazzy. If someone were to get into street fights weekly, even without weapons they would get injured quickly. You dont want that for people rolling in gym and bjj. Health and longevity are most important. A good amount of people quit because they get injured/fear of.

@haraldodunkirk1432 2 года назад

Agreed, you want that wild white belt to quickly become domesticated… but experienced practitioners should be able to tame them.

@RicoMnc 2 года назад

Our school addresses this by requiring beginners to demonstrate a level of competency with our white belt defensive curriculum before they are allowed to roll. This usually takes 4-6 weeks. They do still participate in live positional or technical drill with close instructor supervision. Often beginners are panicky and spazzy because they feel, stuck smashed and overwhelmed and don't have a clue what to do. By requiring this initial acclimation to BJJ we give them some tools to help them settle down and learn. This is not perfect or fool-proof, but I think it helps.

@paragon1782 2 года назад

This seems like the logical option. Gyms probably rush whitebelts into live rolls a little too fast

@bradstevens6319 2 года назад

I literally rolled my first class ever, which I’m sure a lot of others did too. Always thought it’s a dumb idea

@MrGourd 2 года назад

Everything Chewie said is so true. I once had to roll with a fresh new student who was also a competitive university wrestler. The guy was wild and had crazy explosive power! Thankfully, I instinctively did was Chewie said. I wrapped him up tight in guard, half guard, or whatever guard I could manage to put him in. No hard feelings though, I learned a lot from rolling with him. Although, I was still really sore the next day 😄

@Itssconnorr 2 года назад

I was rolling with this new and very aggressive white belt this past weekend. He tried to pass my guard like a spaz so I kicked him in the face like it was a fight and knocked him out cold! Thanks for the help Chewy!

@notnoaintno5134 6 месяцев назад

Damn I don't think he told anyone to kick white belts in the face brother

@gvrmntflu 2 года назад

Omg! This is the video I didn’t know I needed. I get injured soooo much more with white belts, and I also play very loose with them. I kept thinking doing so with help them develop a better game instead of doing the same one move they know, but you’re right. Giving them too much slack just makes them go out of control with excitement lol. Thanks!!

@aplus1080 2 года назад

Spazzy whitebelts are so critical as a litmus test for how you'd do in a fight. If you can't control them, in a very hospitable environment, you've got some trouble.

@nicolaslaquier 2 года назад

That's really funny. My girlfriend was asking the other day what "rolling" is. While explaining I told her that when I am rolling with upper belts most of the time they'll let you play around and try stuff, but if it's another whitebelt or few of the bluebelts then we're fighting. Not hitting each other but otherwise we are pretty much fighting.

@tribulationsurvivalist7466 2 года назад

As a brown at 66 yrs, I use the boa constrictor type of concept .. I pull them in to take away their speed and agility and make them feel like they are being smothered or crushed from both the top or bottom positions .. From the top very heavy pressure and from the bottom a closed guard where I work a lot on head control where they cannot posture up and exhaust themselves trying .. This keeps them in a semi panic mindset where they have difficulty thinking clearly and are just burning energy trying to escape ..

@Slimerror 2 месяца назад

Im a brand new white belt, 2nd day, I got an armbar on a whitebelt who was the same size as me. Guy was breathing crazy hard the whole time, im used to sparring because of kickboxing so i roll a bit more technically, constantly looking for how to gain pressure and control. The older members still roll hard with me, but it has helped me realize little nuances in how to gain control, such as grabbing wrists and holding biceps. Im taking the class so i can start an mma career, just waiting for my broken hand to heal (mma injury, tried a standing pull into a rear naked choke and git punched in the knuckle snapping my metatarsal bone)

@dragonballjiujitsu 2 года назад

At my school I don't allow white belts to grapple with other white belts. This has done wonders for reducing injuries and for student retention.

@calebschaaf1555 2 года назад

Our gym is small enough that this isn't an option. We're way out in Utah in a small town and the only other gyms are an hour away.

@dragonballjiujitsu 2 года назад

@@calebschaaf1555 Understandable. Just have to be extra careful.

@robertovelarde_staff-marti9696 Год назад

Agreed. As a higher belt I try new moves or positions with white but stay tight to control them so I don't get hurt.

@giuseppegallocorvus 2 года назад

BJJ injuries list: broken sternum for a slam and dislocated thumb from blue belts, elbow overextention for some rolling shit from a brown belt, 2 torn ligaments for a heel hook from a purple belt. I think I spent more time injured than training in the last 5 years. But I always came back for more (and always will) 😁 Stats say white belts are safer, for me

@samt3885 2 года назад

That is quite a list but awesome you're not giving up. I've been at it a year, mostly doing no gi/mma grappling and our gym rolls hard! I have had lots of bruising but praying to stay healthy!

@ajaysailopal1096 2 года назад

Completely agree. As a white belt, some higher belts who roll with me keep things very tight. In addition to what you said it also helps me because I have to make sure my technique is really on point and I can't play my game based on explosiveness or athleticism alone

@dachish Год назад

I can relate to the question. I used to do Judo and Aikido when I was younger and I've been out of the MA game for a long time. I just started BJJ - now that I'm somehow freakin' 42 👴 - and it has given me that same spark I used to have from the other arts so I want to go ALL the time but I am CONSTANTLY injuring my rib for no obvious reason. Apparently, it's a very common injury (hurting the cartilage and such) but man is it frustrating because it takes SO LONG to heal. I've been following tips on how to avoid the injury and exercises to give myself a little more flexibility in that area. I hope it helps, it sucks to be out for months at a time, especially when nothing of note happens during a class but I wake up the next day with the injury.

@katkyle8169 2 года назад

Absolutely, we should always spar/roll with our partners with equal intensity... if they go hard and i go soft, I'll always get hurt

@kookookachu26 2 года назад

If I roll with someone new, I’ll pick a game plan and get into a dominant position. I’ll score a few points, and then just hold the position and try to let them come up with something to escape or sweep. I want them to learn that they have tools in their arsenal and to me just smashing their face isn’t good for them.

@gonzo5648 2 года назад

Got my first broken nose during a white belt roll. I was the white belt. Lol! Not sure how, but I know it was a knee that came up during a scramble (well, scramble as far as white belts know. Every moment not in control is a scramble to white belts haha). And now that I have some knowledge, I half noticed what Chewy talked about here; it's basically a fight. Give them room to work, and they go full throttle with no real direction. It's a good thing though. Makes the higher belts work even more so on control. No just to win, but for safety sake of both involved!

@mattpatt199 2 года назад

Hahaha good work on the clarification 🤣 When i read "got my first broken nose" i was like hmm is this some kind of exotic submission i haven't learned yet?

@gonzo5648 2 года назад

@@mattpatt199 haha, nothing exotic about that old fashioned broken nose!

@jamestaylor5995 2 года назад

My BJJ Professor discourages beginner white belts from sparring with the upper belts. And I'm glad for it. At 51 and a Brown belt, I can't risk the injuries that come with it. That being said, my sons train with me and every now and then we turn it up to eleven, but they know how to do it safely, so no one gets hurt.

@balzonyr4head 2 года назад

I'm a white belt that's been at it for a minute and I like to go about 75% the first roll. Mainly because I have a good amount of abuse on my joints so they need to get moving. I'll usually pair up with another guy thats older that gets it, our 6 am class is all over 40. Our evening class is young kids who, if I ask them to do 75 and they go 110, I'll go Trex arms and/or lock them into my guard so they can't do anything. As far as "not being cut out" we had people show up to selection in the military that put a 50 pound pack on and ran 4 miles and broke their legs. Take that for what it's worth.

@Tyrell_Corp2019 2 года назад

I know a white belt who left a world famous BJJ location because he sustained 3 major injuries, the final one causing him to take off for 6 months to recover. He also said he was choked out a few times. He had enough. Well, where is he now? In the Gracie Combatives program. Why? He said, he wanted to learn the techniques safely first instead of being treated like a practice dummy. I totally agree. A good training partner with experience needs to KEEP THE EGO IN CHECK and TEACH. Otherwise it's like handing a guitar to a beginner and putting them cluelessly on stage. Useless approach.

@that1guy487 6 месяцев назад

My very first roll with a non white belt was against a purple belt that literally picked apart everything before we started moving. This was within the first month of training. He kept telling me stop, wait, no, go back, what are you doing, breathe, relax, your weight is too far forward, etc. It was absolutely the best thing for me. He corrected all the nonsense before we could even get started. I was intending to go 50% and we did. But the pace was a wait and see, think what's happening and what to do. He presented opportunities for a few seconds that I either missed or took and then he kept going. I can't say enough about how awesome it was. That's how most of gym is and I love it.

@bruce0816 2 года назад

Definitely had this happen to me before. Came into training with a sore neck and got matched up with the new snazzy white belt. Got me into a weird neck crank which I usually wouldn't have tapped otherwise but on that day I did quickly. Reset and decided to play guard instead to prevent any accidental injures

@mikemendez4686 2 года назад

I’ve experienced the same issue. Kept getting injured. One critical realization was that people will match your pace. So going slow/methodical is one answer that is working for me so far. Do this for months or years and just give your body time to get used to the type of impact that BJJ has on your body. Keep the intensity low and your partner will too. If not, avoid that dude, he will hurt you eventually.

@westfinger8630 2 года назад

Constantly injured crew checking in. Hasn't slowed me down until recently. MRI next week...

@tjl4688 2 года назад

This is why white belts don't get to spar at my school. We're like Gracie Academy in that we have a belt (gray) between white and blue. Doesn't take long to get through that initial period of learning the basics and doing positional stuff, but they at least have some control by the time they get to start free rolling. Better off delaying the early rolls now, so they can keep rolling for much longer over the years.

@HeartlessKnave 16 дней назад

I'm resting off a bruised or fractured rib right now, not officially diagnosed yet, but I'm 95% sure. I'm midway through my second month and rolled with a brand new white belt, bad idea. I didn't know he was, and I think the instructor should have been on it and paired him with the blue belt or a higher white belt, as I didn't know enough to keep us both safe. He also didn't tap during a cross collar choke and afterward said he thought he was going to pass out until I finally let go after adjusting my grip and pressure a couple times. I had to tell him, I have no idea what he's experiencing, so if he doesn't tap I assume either I'm doing something wrong, or to just going to keep going until he does tap, or passes out. He learned don't be stubborn, tap early and often, or someone who's not me WILL make him pass out.

@TheSicilianoHandyman Год назад

I'm a 45 4 stripe purple belt. The biggest problem I have is a new 18 yr old white belt. I call him Taz because he goes 110% all the time and almost never runs out of energy. He's put me out of training twice so far. Heel kicked me in the calf by accident and almost broke my arm pulling an arm bar to hard and fast for practicing. As I was going to tap, because he did catch me with my guard down, POP! Four people around us yelled tap to him it was so loud! Nothing broken but pulled ligaments. I can roll all day with blue to black belts but white belts always end up killing me! I also have a hard time with beating up on kids. Because you do have to treat it like a fight and then I just feel like a bully. I do BJJ for the Art and health. Not to kill... I live in FL with a CWP, I have other tools for the "fight". BJJ to me is exercise, chess, and health. Not a brawl. So being a higher belt I can choose who to roll with when it comes to lower belts and I have been much more selective as of late. And in turn have been injured less!

@salvatoresciorta5301 2 года назад

Literally got into a scramble with white belt other day and got cracked with spinning elbow my eyes went black for a moment.

@frankiegodinez8864 2 года назад

I always get injured too. In my opinion, it’s part of the game. I do tend to stay away from spazzy 200 lb white belts though. At 140 lbs, I tend to either roll with purple belts or higher or other like minded lightweight individuals like myself. Two days ago, a younger whitebelt dude who has at least 50lbs went after me with a full force double leg takedown and landed on my ribs. Keep in mind this is at 6 in the morning. This dude also uses smelling salts in the morning to get a “boost”, only because he saw it on the Joe Rogan podcast. Needless to say, I will never roll with him again.

@mightymikethebear 2 года назад

What you said about white belts reminds me of how often beginning wrestlers get hurt. It is really easy to hurt someone due to a lack of experience and control.

@sway71 2 года назад

Totally agree. I would recommend this with really anyone you've never rolled with before. I paired up with a purple belt I just met thinking we would be getting pretty technical only to have him repeatedly grind his knuckles into my solar plexus and shove his thumb into my neck (he left a nice bloody gouge on my face with his nail after I tucked my chin to defend). If your opponent starts using really uncontrolled, explosive motions I recommend doing what Chewy says, playing it tight and restricting their movement. A nice half guard (bottom or top) can work wonders.

@TheBurebo 2 года назад

I really love your channel! I started with BJJ 2 months ago and you helped me a lot in the beginning. I really love the sport and I already lost 3 kg of fat thanks to it and new diet. The main reason was to get in shape before my wedding which is happening in 3 months and to learn some martial art, the thing I always wanted. I didnt know what martial art to choose but after watching you I was sure I want BJJ so I just went to the gym one day and I loved it! Everyone is really friendly there and even tho Im getting bruised quite ofter Im happy about it, maybe even proud of it 😁 Thank you very much Chewie!

@aminshahsavar8348 2 месяца назад

I just found this youtube channel and I have to say its amazing

@Henry-sj1kl 2 года назад

Audio quality is amazing! I think the audio quality you have now is better than your podcasts.

@badart3204 Год назад

I am a small dude and I was always put with the first class white belts bc I’m young and kinda know what I’m doing. The trick is to stick to them like glue with no space and just restrain them. Let them wear themselves out while spazzing safely. Honestly has came in clutch later in life with restraining drunk people.

@benbush7838 2 года назад

I started Bzjj in my early 40’s. I had it in my head after a while to “go a little easy” on brand new students so they didn’t get put off. I asked if this was the correct conduct and all the higher belts said “did we go easy on you?” The answer was no, and as they pointed out, it made the eventual tap on a training partner feel like a true accomplishment and not a tokenism. Obviously there are exceptions here, like much smaller people or young women but the reality is that on every occasion that I wound back the intensity a bit, I ran into trouble or came close to being submitted or injured by a new player because I had lost control of the situation. Good video Chewjitsu

@muaythaiforever7893 2 года назад

I just got my nose busted, from a knee to the face, the other day. He was very apologetic but I didn’t take too serious. This video is extremely helpful…especially since I am going to roll again today

@craigrik2699 2 года назад

Great advice, thanks for highlighting this. In our gym the main injuries come from the "newer" students, normally themselves but they can split a lip, crank a neck or knee just by trying something. Keeping tight in your game helps you and them because you can maintain some control ...

@CJfunctional 2 года назад

White and new blue belts are the most dangerous. But technically they are who you would encounter in the street. Chewy you are so right but to protect yourself you have to stay ahead of them and dominate in order to take care of them. You try to go passive you’ll pay for it

@gedbookings2328 2 года назад

Exactly..you need that dog fight to understand what you may be up against

@dynaordie8083 2 года назад

Great advice. Appreciate the professional perspective. All my injuries are from newbies

@qsam9380 2 года назад

Just sprained my ankle rolling injuries are gonna happen. Only think I can think about is healing and getting back on the Mat. I’m just mad at myself for being hurt and falling behind. I’m a 1 stripe white belt been training about 3 months

@af4396 2 года назад

Just train without the ankle and stop being a pu$$! - My girlfriends father who is also Sensei never lets me make excuses not to get on the mats lol...

@Damnationization 2 года назад

As a white belt I have had 2 black eyes at different times (one of the people was a white and the other a brown belt), a fat lip (after a knee to the face), been flipped, been punched in the face, bent my finger joint back, bleed out my toes/knees/finger. Been choked out practicing the moves, when I tapped, not even a drill. To name a few things. I am actually a nice, the teacher now places me with new people. I am very strong but don't use it vs new guys unless threatened.

@amnfox 2 года назад

I would recommend having a solid foundation of physical strength or fitness prior to training jujitsu or at least training jujitsu competitively or at a higher intensity. Not strength like you can squat 600 pounds, but strength involving joint health and overall stability.

@matthewb2415 Год назад

I love this chewy keeping it tight something for me to try. Been training for a few months with a good bunch of big guys who like to roll hard. I’ve struggled a bit with the aggression side but think it’s important to get positional control and stop them from crushing

@chrismontaigne6288 2 года назад

I feel exactly the same as this guy…can’t explain it but if isn’t the toe it’s the ribs…came back and popped a rib getting crushed in cradle by a purple belt that no one wants to roll with because he crushes you and wrestles most the time…honestly don’t want to go back after the rib…still sticks out and I am still sleeping on the recliner

@bigrickbjj315 2 года назад

This is a great mentality to have. Something I've only recently started thinking myself. Great video Thanks Chewy!

@johncannon3593 Год назад

Honestly, I think EVERYONE, even non-BJJ players, should lift weights. Not necessarily to get big if that's not a goal, but to be strong and to improve the resilience of your body, bones, and connective tissue. Sounds like the person asking the question would benefit from some time making heavy things defy gravity.

@copynin_will Год назад

Exactly the video I was looking for. Im a white belt with scattered about a year and a half of training over a few years span. I can hold my own vs most other white belts. Was curious on how tough I should be. This helps. Not trying to be mean or a bully but also dont want to just give positions for no reason. Just wanna be a good training partner. Thinking as a white vs white i should work hard too.

@cameronforbes2649 2 года назад

I'm always trying to match people's energy. You never know where people are at in life. In my years of training I've been in school without much of a physical outlet, so I had no excuse but to roll hard. I've lost close family members. Part of the grieving process was this childlike irrational anger, that'd come up for no legitimate reason. HARD rolls during that time were practically therapeutic. Similarly I've had many training partners whose life circumstances could easily make them angry. I've also had labor jobs and worked long days, where I am both tired and literally can't afford to get hurt and miss work. So I roll light and or drill technique.

@timothymolinar5410 2 года назад

Every time I step out on to to mat, as a 10th degree white belt I want your gym’s very best!!! Lesson #1Accepting the attack. --I’m blind to you

@fitnessfuncody 2 года назад

Funny how this works! The right message at the right time. Thanks brother.

@COC766 2 года назад

Blue belt here, and former spazz lol. I’ve developed a half way decent open/closed guard game, and I’ve discovered that to be the spazzy white belts nightmare. Wear them out, sweep, smash.

@TheCommonS3Nse 2 года назад

I always love that conversation in the gym. Who is the most dangerous person in the room? Everyone points to the black belt. Wrong. It’s the white belts. It’s always the white belts, lol.

@lujitsu1251 2 года назад

I like his advice. Calm and wise.

@RaistlinKishtar 2 года назад

Great advice. I too struggle with injuries with white belts and I go easy hoping they will too. Time to lock up that half guard!

@tomastelensky-vlog8723 Год назад

When I was already advanced Aikido practicioner, I got the worst injury from total newbie. He was unable to set up the technique properly so he used brute force in a totaly unexpected way...

@mraBJJ33 2 года назад

Had a white belt sprain my LCL... while DRILLING back escapes, I was not ready for the big explosive movement and my foot got pinned under his weight and my knee got a bit twisted. I wasn't able to roll for 3-4 weeks after that...

@Karen-fs6lf 2 года назад

In judo same thing all of my injuries in judo is for this reason on the ground and standing this applies. GreT point chewie we had to learn this by experience wish some one would have told me this earlier

@lb8313 2 года назад

Love this. I was considering not rolling with some but this is good advice.

@ShawnSwander 2 года назад

90% of my injuries come from white belt rolls. Probably 70% of the time they are in their first 2 months of training. All power no control.

@naturalianoss 2 года назад

i think that many people train in contact sports for the wrong reasons that are more related to ego issues

@tjl4688 2 года назад

White belts shouldn't be rolling for at least 6 months. They can do positional and drills, but they should never be thrown into the deep end. The sink-or-swim mentality is dying off.

@naturalianoss 2 года назад

@@tjl4688 why not ?

@ShawnSwander 2 года назад

@@tjl4688 Nah I don't agree with that. I can respect that rule if it's your gym and how you want to run it though. Some people have extensive wrestling, judo, or prior bjj backgrounds on day 1. It's maybe 1 in 100 white belts who cause a minor injury. I know if someone is new and I usually just tell them to chill out if they're spazing out. Injuries I've gotten like a toenail cutting me are things you learn by someone talking to you. I just say "Hey man trim your nails I've been cut pretty bad rolling with people with long nails" and they do it. If they don't I won't roll with them. I stop and coach them during rolls if they make the same mistake a few times and I don't crush them or anything but my goal even with black belts is that we both improve but you can probably do some light rolling even on day 1 as long as you talk to them about what is going on (so kind of positional or drilling) but they can go a little harder day 2 and build up to full speed in a couple weeks.

@ronthemogul 2 года назад

@@tjl4688 soft

@Macleod1991 2 года назад

I always play slow, heavy, and methodical when I roll with white belts. Got cauliflower ear because of one of them and learned my lesson.

@stevena8719 2 года назад

Its good to remember that injury propensity is a real thing and it is genetically determined in large part

@JSMinstantcoaching 2 года назад

White belts are supposed to learn, they are supposed to sharpen their swords first, they should not wild spar, they should positional play, and learn the game gradually with modern methodologies.

@bananapatch9118 2 года назад

Started at 59 and first 11 months were great. I was banged up a lot, but hit 60 now and my Psoas hip flexor is KILLING ME. Tried foam rollers, PT exercises….nothing is working. Going to see my family doctor but can’t get in for a month. This thing has really hobbled me…can’t get a sock on my left foot. Do I go to BJJ class while waiting to get in to see my doctor or is that stupid ? ….feeling like a lazy slug not going…

@badxradxandy 2 года назад

Take time off

@shawnmartin1306 2 года назад

My last three injuries I did myself no white belt needed. Used a switch from my knee at competition and tore pecs. Somehow during that competition also got tear in right tricep. Then just a few weeks went to bridge someone off me with foot sideways like a dumbass. Knee popped twice. 2 weeks later I can walk up and down steps. The popped rib before that was not my fault but it hurt. I’m starting to think how far you go in BJJ is partially how well you deal with injures. Then not giving a shit and continuing 😂 on to the next one

@quizziewizzie10 2 года назад

Great advice. You have to take white belts seriously and definitely agree you have to treat it like a fight and keep things tight. Everyone has a trick up their sleeve these days with all these RU-vid videos, especially white belts. Have to go hard and tight with them. After you destroy them, they will sometimes ease up in future rolls. Plus, in a real life situation, it will likely be like fighting a white belt so best to always train in “white belt kill mode”.

@bag101 2 года назад

If you are a white belt (as I am) and you're smashing or cranking submissions you're not learning jiu jitsu. Save all that spare energy for doing drills, warmups, etc. You're proving nothing by tapping someone, relax and learn.

@danfg7215 2 года назад

I remember elbowing a black belt in the face when I was a white belt. Scariest moment of my life, I just cringed really hard and said sorry once (a purple belt taught me not to apologize repeatedly, because it's condescending), he was pissed but fortunately shrugged it off and proceded to rear naked choke me 10 seconds later.

@psychotropy101 2 года назад

Spot on advise. All my worst injuries have come from rolling with white belts too lightly and from not taking them seriously; because they're white belts lol

@mikew.762 2 года назад

I’m a white belt but I understand mechanic of the human body very well. If I get someone that is dangerous mainly because they are new I relax stuff everything possible and smother them with my body weight.

@ianc435 2 года назад

I’m an older white belt. Amd the first ten times I rolled. I got that weird headache. After that the headaches went away. Why?? Inserted down. Slow methodical mostly. With burst of overpowering ignorance and speed sometimes helps. But I don’t spaz out. I can’t jump. I have to go from a to b to c where as some go A to C.

@kecabojan 2 года назад

I experience same problems, new to BJJ, I am not able to have one week without injuries. Constant tendon injuries (triceps, knee), sore ribs, intercostal muscles. Like, wtf is wrong with me. I can't train if I limit myself to 30% of power. And I have no problem with me being submitted, by I feel like I have to give my partners a tiny bit of resistance. I am questioning if I am just too old (38y) to get my body adjusted for grappling, or maybe I just need to continue and break through. But yeah, my body totally feels like in car accident day after training every time.

@rollinOnCode 2 года назад

its not a fight. it is a title fight! everything is on the line! lolol

@blakem2068 Год назад

I’m lucky to be a 225lbs white belt so I can squash spazzy ones who want to kill me and then learn from higher belts who want to teach me. I’m slow and timid and don’t want to die, but my weight and quick vocal “tap” is my only defense for now

@trxscreed 2 года назад

I only get injured during takedown training. This older body doesn't like being slammed on the ground dozens of times in a night anymore. With newer white belts, I'll feel them out first. See what kind of energy they're giving me and adjust my strategy accordingly. If they're spazzy, I negate space. They can't hurt you will flailing limbs if you don't give them room to flail.

@brendareyesmayo 2 года назад

Being a white belt myself, I really apreciate when higher belts roll this way with me. I still get very confused when they try fancy stuff with me that I don't know how to defend or even how I should be moving.

@RadicalTrivia 2 года назад

This is also how I think about this. I feel like some great training comes from white belts who are much bigger than I am, which seems much closer to the more likely real-life scenario of a street fight with an untrained person.

@mattpatt199 2 года назад

As a white belt i completely agree with this. Personally, being in law enforcement before BJJ, i atleast had some i guess some composure and a less ego than some ppl who walk in to the gym. Bt there would still be times where my training partners would tell me to breathe (if i was blindly trying to muscle out of something) or to concentrate on the problem rather than just blindly scramble. Having traing partners who did that really helped. For me it all comes down to ego, if i get subbed 10 times a class which i do regularly, so be it. that is improving my awareness and also developing my training partners too.

@MultiXxnoobxX 2 года назад

I got kicked in the face by a brown belt. I got into an altercation once with a purple belt cause he kept trying get me in a wrist lock but I kept moving my hand around and my finger flicked him and I tried to apologize before he could say a thing he didn’t accept it not once not twice but three tries and made me feel bad. He was 35 or something I was only 24 I was just a white belt I was told that I was street fighting but I never had any of those things to anyone I even wrestled other whites and it was okay