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Why you SHOULD shoot in 30fps!! 

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@RyanKao
@RyanKao 3 года назад
Seriously… you guys gotta try this out. Literally my go-to framerate for b roll 🤌
@filmbyakiljoefield
@filmbyakiljoefield 3 года назад
Most people is me to be honest, I've never shot in 30fps on my Sony a6600, and I've always dreamed about shooting at 4k @60fps but after seeing this video, I'm definitely gonna give this a go!!! My main reason for not using 30fps was the fear of my videos not being "cinematic" enough but that 80% speed makes it look sooo good!!! Thank you man!!
@RyanKao
@RyanKao 3 года назад
@@filmbyakiljoefield exactly bro!! Glad I could help, let me know how it turns out
@BikeShopGirl
@BikeShopGirl 3 года назад
30 is the best. Seriously. Still looks human. Don’t have to jack your ISO. It’s great.
@AlexKroke
@AlexKroke 3 года назад
I suppose it is only where audio is not needed ?
@wizardflow
@wizardflow 3 года назад
Wow, I was always terrified of 30 fps (only shooting 24 or 60 slowed down). But for some reason never thought o shoot in 30 and slow it down 20%. Cool idea.
@persandholt
@persandholt 10 месяцев назад
Super oldschool technique. Referred to as ”commercial slow” back in the good old celluloid days.
@_aaandstkmnul44v44j1
@_aaandstkmnul44v44j1 3 месяца назад
... getting older and not smarter as I wanted to grrr
@JonathanPalfrey
@JonathanPalfrey 2 года назад
I've done this trick when needing to do a gimbal shot in the evening, 60fps wouldn't let in enough light however 30 slowed to 25 with a slightly slower walk gives you a very similar feel but you gain a stop of light.
@waazaaawoop997
@waazaaawoop997 2 года назад
Wow very smart!
@bakerfx4968
@bakerfx4968 2 года назад
I mean sure most people won’t notice the difference but the whole point of understanding the frame rates/shutter speed is to match how your motion blur looks. If you have anything moving in the shot the motion blur will be different than the 60fps footage
@TheFilmCouple_
@TheFilmCouple_ 2 года назад
Correct 😊 I also do this when shooting real estate, normally I use 4k60 but for some darker areas I shoot at 30 to allow a 1/60 shutter, saving me from using too much ISO
@cdreyes81
@cdreyes81 2 года назад
@@TheFilmCouple_ I too am interested in doing video for real estate. I just do still at the moment.
@royaltykidstv
@royaltykidstv Год назад
If I record an entire even at 30fps, will I be able to slow down some parts to 80% and leave other parts real time?
@suryacoapy5129
@suryacoapy5129 3 года назад
Good tip Ryan, but actually, it's not slowed by 80%, it's slowed *to* 80%. If it was slowed by 80% it would be at 20% which is 6 fps.
@RyanKao
@RyanKao 3 года назад
Ahhh right, my mistake! Thank you
@auomi8762
@auomi8762 2 года назад
@@RyanKao love your content man! 💪🏾
@imtoxicAF
@imtoxicAF 2 года назад
it actually is slowed by 80%. By is a common term used to multiply. 100% x 80% or .8 = 80%
@imtoxicAF
@imtoxicAF 2 года назад
@@wrywndp you do know there is more than one way to get a solution with math lol. there are 4 different ways infact lmfao. 100-20=80, 100+(-20)=80, 100x80%=80 100/1.25=80. what are you on about?
@wrywndp
@wrywndp 2 года назад
@@imtoxicAF there are two element in this, slowed meaning reducing, subtraction and by 80%, meaning the amount. if you say slowed by 80%, meaning you reducing 80% from total. if you mean from 100% to 80%, it could be slowed by 20% or slowed to 80%
@FilmProductionUSA
@FilmProductionUSA 2 года назад
I thank God that you said slow motion maybe getting stale. I thought I was the only one :) If I see another slow motion wedding film with mostly no voices and music that makes me cry, I am going to sell my equipment LOL. But seriously, my clients even make me add slow motion to my videos even though I shoot in 24 and 30 fps. I just slow it down in post which works fine for me and I haven't had any complaints yet from clients. Doing events and parties and the like in mostly slow motion ruins everything. You can't hear the kids screaming, the wind and birds or the background chatter which makes a film real. I just watched the first look where a photographer did at least 3 takes. WHAT! Okay, enough of my rant :) I am just glad it's not just me who thinks slow motion is stale...Ryan, keep up the great work and being a trailblazer. Sincerely, craig
@mr_maduber
@mr_maduber 10 месяцев назад
Thank you so much! 🙏 Your advice was brilliant. My teacher at University said it was okay to drop my 30fps footage in a 24fps timeline, but as you pointed out, there was something wrong with it. My videos looked choppy and laggy. 😩 Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. It will definitely improve my editing skills. I am grateful for your advice as it will definitely help me improve my editing skills. 😊 I want to thank you for pointing out the mistake in my work. My teacher at MAA University had suggested that it was okay to drop my 30fps footage in a 24fps timeline, but as you pointed out, it was causing problems. My videos were appearing choppy and laggy. 😔 Your knowledge and expertise in the field of video editing have been very valuable to me. Thanks once again for your help in improving my editing skills. 🙏🤗
@EddieWoodsRemnantOutreach
@EddieWoodsRemnantOutreach 7 месяцев назад
I can definitely agree with this. I've shot on the EOS R for years and if I shoot in 4K the highest I can go is 30fps. And it looks smooth while not being that super slowed down footage that let's you know you're watching slow mo. It's like an optical illusion that does not take the view out of the real time emersion but still can take a few little jitters from the footage.
@benjamin.kelley
@benjamin.kelley 3 года назад
I shoot all my drone footage at 4K 30 because it's the highest it goes in 4K, but honestly when slowed to 80% it's perfect.
@RyanKao
@RyanKao 3 года назад
Yes same dude!
@ebukka
@ebukka Год назад
Bunu deneyeceğim çok teşekkür ederim. 30P çekip 24 Kare cıktı almak heycan verici, benim için biraz daha detaylı anlatır mısın ?
@AlCaldejon
@AlCaldejon 3 года назад
Wedding Filmmakers: "welp, there goes our secret for those smooth getting ready shots"
@Aviciiz
@Aviciiz 3 года назад
Facts
@awphotos
@awphotos 3 года назад
Secret? Lol no
@AlCaldejon
@AlCaldejon 3 года назад
@@awphotos to some it is, pro 🙌🏼
@GoodGuysMedia
@GoodGuysMedia 3 года назад
Yeah, there was definitely some tape being leaked here....lol but appreciate it! Lets see what these cameramen and editors can do with this information
@theflowowl
@theflowowl 3 года назад
Out of curiosity, in a wedding situation how would you handle the frame rates? You cannot record everything at 30 fps and the render at 24 at 80% speed , right ? Otherwise everything looks kind of slow motion . Should you instead record at 24 and when needed switch to 30? This seems kind of problematic because you may forget to switch back
@chunkit78
@chunkit78 3 года назад
To get actual frame rate for Resolve, you should right click the clip, go to clip attribute and change the fps to 24. Anyway, great tips
@glssjg
@glssjg 2 года назад
In final cut just select the clip(s) and hit the time icon then hit automatic speed. This will slow down the footage to whatever the project frame rate is set to.
@FilmSchool-om3ew
@FilmSchool-om3ew 2 месяца назад
I'm glad you took the 30 FPS challenge, cause most other videos totally ignore it. But my Canon has this setting, well, 29. etc, then 59. etc.
@gamecubeplayer
@gamecubeplayer 2 месяца назад
30fps is almost always 29.97fps
@KeokiDude
@KeokiDude Месяц назад
Dude, great way of explaining things- thanks.
@RyanKao
@RyanKao Месяц назад
Glad it was helpful!
@ThePOVLife
@ThePOVLife 3 года назад
It’s almost like 30fps emphasizes an entire moment and 60fps emphasizes a moment with the entire moment. Sometimes 60fps is cool however boring when you wish the specific slowed down moment would just get over with. Super cool video! Just noticing this now and definitely going to be incorporating it more.
@UpStreamCharlie
@UpStreamCharlie 3 года назад
I use 30fps since I started my YT Channel. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@LuisMarquez80
@LuisMarquez80 3 года назад
There is a place for every frame rate and 30 is definitely the least used because doesn’t change much.
@HatefYaminiOnline
@HatefYaminiOnline 2 года назад
Super thorough explanation. Thank you!
@RyanKao
@RyanKao Год назад
You're very welcome!
@Andrasturiexplore
@Andrasturiexplore 2 года назад
Wooow. 30 fps in 80/40% speed looks very sharp! This look is what I'm looking for when I buy cheap Fujifilm but don't get how tu make picture like this. Amazing thing. Thank you for compare.
@Jambo1999
@Jambo1999 Год назад
lol when she was cutting the peaches I could hear the knife hitting the board, and i'm "how did he do that"? but its the music.
@simoncurran6184
@simoncurran6184 8 месяцев назад
Thank you. Ive just moved from hitfilm express to DaVinci. I couldnt work out why my footage was juddering.
@robokhod
@robokhod 8 месяцев назад
Good idea, never thought from this point... 30fps --> 80% !!! Nice advice, will test it
@willwoolf
@willwoolf 2 года назад
Colorist here, I've only just discovered your channel and your grading is GORGEOUS.
@OdysseusVrakas
@OdysseusVrakas 2 года назад
Very nicely done. Glad to see a video out there about this. Same reason I shoot my drone clips in 30fps not 24. It's just smoother.
@joshuaberrios
@joshuaberrios 2 года назад
Definitely going to give this a shot (no pun intended) within a video I am currently planning out.
@RyanKao
@RyanKao 2 года назад
Hope it goes great!
@bardofhighrenown
@bardofhighrenown 2 года назад
When you use the 80% of 30 fps method, do you use a 1/60th or a 1/48th shutter speed?
@Panaminican
@Panaminican 7 месяцев назад
I have the same question, did you figure it out?
@torridproductions
@torridproductions 6 месяцев назад
Wouldn't slowing 30fps down 80% affect the audio if you're using the one camera for audio as well? (ie pitch)
@SteveBerwick
@SteveBerwick 2 года назад
I love 30fps for my workflow (ie: Home Movies shot on an iPhone or GoPro), but I have different reasons. When dealing with small sensors, the shutter speed gets cranked waaay up, which means zero motion blur. And that makes 24fps looks very juddery, especially if there is any movement. 30 is a great balance that still feels cinematic, but is much more pleasing to watch. Maybe when the kids get older and I have ND filters and time to properly expose, then maybe I'll revisit 24fps, but for now it's not even a consideration.
@timroelofs5636
@timroelofs5636 2 года назад
5:04 THIS MAN hahaha. Loved how u did this little thing
@DELvEK
@DELvEK Год назад
My question is; If I record In 60/50fps I still can use settings to make it look like 30fps or even 24fps right, but when recording In 24/30fps I have to speed up the frames per seconds to boost it up to 60fps but It make the video a lil sketchy and a lil too fast.. Like not normal.. So should I always record in 50 or 60fps in case of needs to use slow motion later or anything like that OR I just always record in 24/30 fps and deal with settings afterwards ?
@DatoAliffAlex
@DatoAliffAlex 3 года назад
30FPS is applicable for those stayed in NTSC region like US, Japan NTSC. If youre European or Asian you wanna stick with 25FPS. The amount of people shoot in 24FPS all over the world causes problem in the broadcast industry.
@littleroundbutt
@littleroundbutt 2 года назад
Hi, i'm new to filmmaking. I learn most of editing and shooting skills from youtube. And I shoot in 24/30/60fps most of the time and I live in Malaysia. What's the cause or issue with NTSC and PAL differences?
@jaevisuals
@jaevisuals 3 года назад
DUDE!!! thank you for this! I always contemplating shooting at this frame rate and why I would even try this... Now I have a good reason.
@JonathanLawrence_Director
@JonathanLawrence_Director 6 месяцев назад
im guessing this only works for B-Roll. What happens to the audio when 30p is places onto a 24p timeline and slowed to 80% ?
@phil_aesthetics
@phil_aesthetics Год назад
okay so you kinda solved my EOS R 4k 30 problem thank you!
@JaredRibic
@JaredRibic Год назад
I did this about a year ago on a fashion video where I didn't want to shoot everything at 60fps. It was perfect for making the "normal' (non slomo) footage still look a bit dreamy. My cameras (Canon) don't have 48fps, so I'm thinking about trying 50fps to see how I like that look.
@NowyKurs
@NowyKurs 3 года назад
It's good for motion I find out. I'm using a lot. Not for voice and conversation shots but rest of the narration compose great and narrative. You don't need even slowing down the footage. Simply press interpret the clip to the timeline fps.
@paradymbeats2143
@paradymbeats2143 Год назад
really appreciate this information bro , just got my sony a7s ii
@RyanKao
@RyanKao Год назад
Great to hear! Thanks for watching!
@gigallthetime37
@gigallthetime37 2 года назад
Hey man, thanks a lot, I'm a beginnger and been watching your videos not just because they're cool, but I'm learning a lot from you. I bought an sl3 just to learn how to use a cam so I'm kinda stuck with 30&60fps (4k@24fps kinds sucks on this thing) but you've taught me not only how to better use 30fps, but also how to appreciate it more thanks!
@Trekopolis
@Trekopolis 2 года назад
Hey Ryan, love the look of the final project when shooting at 30fps. I wondered how some people were achieving that. QUESTION - I heard you say people tend to edit in 24fps, but do you still render or export the final project at 30fps or 24fps? That threw me for a loop. :) What's the difference if you edit in 30 vs 24? I don't quite understand that, especially while just working on a timeline. Thanks sir!
@gravitymediapro
@gravitymediapro 2 года назад
New sub! Very interesting idea. I’ve been doing this for a long time, and there’s always more to learn. And yes, actually read the description.
@RyanKao
@RyanKao Год назад
Thanks for watching!!
@itsandresahat
@itsandresahat 2 года назад
Thank you Ryan...
@garyjzhao
@garyjzhao 3 года назад
30fps for slowmo and brolls; ok that makes sense. but what about talking head and what not? wouldn't the advice to shoot 30fps not work?
@Ben.ODonohue
@Ben.ODonohue 3 года назад
I had the same question
@ernolaunis
@ernolaunis 2 года назад
24 fps of course or what is your normal speed. Test. Shoot.
@ISmoestus
@ISmoestus 10 месяцев назад
bro thank you
@raylander6329
@raylander6329 Год назад
You are right, great look; thank you for this tip !!
@X0N1C
@X0N1C Год назад
Since I’m new to the filming with camera stuff I never thought about going for 24fps, until now
@ShpendMaliqi
@ShpendMaliqi 2 месяца назад
Beautiful!
@azrulnizamyucqueazral5925
@azrulnizamyucqueazral5925 Год назад
Amazing tips..thanks sir
@RyanKao
@RyanKao Год назад
Thanks man!!
@AmitJohnMF
@AmitJohnMF 3 года назад
You have earned a new subscriber! Love from India
@RyanKao
@RyanKao 3 года назад
Thank you Amit!!
@kaskalo2
@kaskalo2 5 месяцев назад
I am a bit confused (still learning). What is the difference of putting 30 vs 60 fps on a 24 fps timeline, and slowing it down to 80%. In my understanding, in both cases you will end up with a video of 24fps, which is slowed down to 80%
@fumikato
@fumikato 5 месяцев назад
The goal is to make all the footage a 24fps, and it might be resulting in a slowed down video
@chicagospots
@chicagospots 2 года назад
I make TV spots, so I shoot and deliver in 30P since the NTSC TV broadcast standard is 30fps (or 60 fields). Shooting at 24fps introduces “pulldown” which doubles a field every other frame to stretch it into the 60 field base. This winds up looking choppy, and never looks as smooth as 30fps which has a frame to frame relationship with the TV standard.
@RohitRajGupta
@RohitRajGupta 3 года назад
Watching you from a long time and must say learned alot from you 😊
@TomKaszuba
@TomKaszuba 2 года назад
Wow. Incredible. Thank you very much for this.
@TechInsomnia
@TechInsomnia 2 года назад
Thank you brother! 🙏 This video helped me out a lot. 💯 Gonna try out your 30fps at 80% tip and see how it goes. 😎 Thank you
@AdamTartoria
@AdamTartoria 6 месяцев назад
How does this affect syncing a lot of dialogue? Have you ever run into any issues? I'd love to use this technique in a short film I'm currently writing. Thanks for always providing such great content, btw.
@lipwood_music
@lipwood_music 2 года назад
Always specify that 30fps is only in an NTSC workflow, if you live in Europe for example go for PAL -> 25/50/100
@rafinjobayer
@rafinjobayer 2 года назад
O my god, amazing idea. I was sad that my phone cant record 60fps of 4k. Now, it will do just fine
@Lamidnightsss
@Lamidnightsss Год назад
This video was actually very insightful. Thank you for the info!
@RyanKao
@RyanKao Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@roehaus1
@roehaus1 3 года назад
30 FPS... WHY? Because it factors directly into the scan rate of most TV and computer displays... and most of our videos are viewed or streamed this way. BTW, how does your 80% method work out with voice sync?
@itsrob2321
@itsrob2321 10 месяцев назад
Good video tip, Ryan. Thanks!
@jj-kj6es
@jj-kj6es 2 года назад
Thanks Bruh!
@RashidFarhan
@RashidFarhan 8 месяцев назад
Yeah man 👍
@hubey
@hubey 3 года назад
Man this is a great pearl of wisdom/creative tool. Thank you so much. Deserve a sub.
@Bulsie28
@Bulsie28 2 года назад
If you right click the clip on your timeline go to clip attributes you can manually set the playback frame rate to 23.976.
@MelvinDlaCruz
@MelvinDlaCruz 2 года назад
*30p at 80% looks so much dreamy like 24p at 100%, i will star doin this more often*
@RonkeyRong
@RonkeyRong 3 года назад
For parts that need audio, would I need to switch back to 24fps?
@TheIshExperience
@TheIshExperience 3 года назад
I had the same question.
@Digi20
@Digi20 3 года назад
for some (natural) sounds you actually sometimes can get away with "30fps audio". it will simply play slower and sound lower pitched when stretched to 24fps. music, voice etc. will of course not work and sound stupid.
@ericlamont4130
@ericlamont4130 2 месяца назад
Way late to the discussion, but appreciate the information! Just getting into video and this option looks great. One question - how does shooting in 30fps, then slowing it down by 20%, impact audio? If someone were, say, recording a wedding ceremony using this trick, would slowing the video either cause the audio to get distorted or out of sync with lip movements?
@gamecubeplayer
@gamecubeplayer 2 месяца назад
the audio would be distorted because it'll be slowed
@prettysmitty
@prettysmitty 3 года назад
dang i've never even thought about that. Will be using this tip, thanks!
@adamsmith4778
@adamsmith4778 2 года назад
Us UK/Europe people suffer with banding if we change to ntsc for 30 fps big suck
@jordiscm4339
@jordiscm4339 Год назад
so are you also exporting and uploading on social media in24fps?
@wildwoodche
@wildwoodche 8 месяцев назад
How do you get your image to look so clean?
@orteganism
@orteganism 10 месяцев назад
What about audio? Are you also recording at 30fps for your sound? Does it stay in sync with 30fps video in a 24fps timeline?
@justinhargety
@justinhargety 2 года назад
So how do you sync audio like footsteps without distorting the audio by slowing it down also. Eacpecially if I’m recording audio and video at the same time.
@lnuponom2678
@lnuponom2678 2 года назад
Any video slowdown, if it is not done with additional frames, for example, get 30 out of 60 or get 24 out of 30, will result in a loss of video quality, a strobe will appear. Yes, there used to be plug-ins for slowing down video, but now few people use them. It's easier to buy a camera that shoots 60 frames and make 30 of them.
@mediatrix1111
@mediatrix1111 2 года назад
Great Idea. BUT.... only for B roll. Or else you will also have to slow down the audio which would create other issues. Namely pitch quality change.
@lost-spirit-exploration
@lost-spirit-exploration 2 года назад
Thank you for this awesome Video :) A question, how do i use this tipp "30fps with 80% in 24fps timeline", when I have mixed footage with 30fps but also 60fps. Greetings Thiemo
@Major_Winkee
@Major_Winkee 2 года назад
Thank you for this.
@AndresArosemena
@AndresArosemena 3 года назад
nice idea, if you are shooting 30fps, is your shutter 1/60?
@cruisechill1813
@cruisechill1813 Год назад
Do you still shoot at 180 degree shutter angle on the komodo when filming in 30fps?
@YOUNGARSON
@YOUNGARSON Год назад
Ok so how would it work in a 60fps timeline on Final Cut what would u change the speed to then? And thanks for everything
@terranborn56
@terranborn56 3 года назад
No love for 25p? popular outside of NTSC areas. Great video BTW.
@bac4728
@bac4728 Год назад
Hi, do you know how to shoot this way with ND filters and still be able to use rocksteady?
@James-lu4en
@James-lu4en 2 года назад
Would 30 work best for real estate video where 50/60 is often used for slow mo? Thanks
@findyoufilms
@findyoufilms 8 месяцев назад
Yeah it’s funny I only used to shoot 29.97 when I first got into all this - canon GL days Pd150 - anyway, my question- how to you resolve audio (I’m guessing foli) primarily using sound effects?
@Noble_r717
@Noble_r717 2 года назад
If I can shoot at 4k 60, would it be better to do that and then convert to 30fps before slowing down to 24fps? Just so I have the option to slow down further? Also what if you shoot in 30 and then decide you want to keep it real time?
@jeffarballo9816
@jeffarballo9816 2 года назад
Do you ever mix the 24 and 30 in the same timeline?
@eri7-11
@eri7-11 9 месяцев назад
Please best way to stop flicker in store in Japan but get dreamy look thank you
@dab7963
@dab7963 Год назад
So I shoot at 30 FPS do the place it on a 30 FPS time line or a 24 FPS time line and then slow it down by 80%
@TyMapp
@TyMapp 2 года назад
How about shooting a feature film in 30fps on a bmpcc 4k?
@rodolphesimon295
@rodolphesimon295 8 месяцев назад
how do you manage in a 24FPS timeline different shoot at 24 - 30 - 60 if youd on't want to use slowmo ? For exemple if i shoot something at 60FPS but want to edit at realtime on my timeline ?
@Court-And-Crime-With-Tia
@Court-And-Crime-With-Tia Год назад
Thanks for this great video, I'm going to ask you a dumb question, I'm trying to learn more about filming. I have a crochet channel (crochet is like knitting) what do you think will be the right fps for the types of videos I make?
@TrollMeister_
@TrollMeister_ 8 месяцев назад
I shot quite a bit of footage at 4k/60 while I was on a cruise. I chose 60 because we went through some rough waters and I wanted to capture the smooth fluid like motion of the waves. But it’s also kinda boring. I want the dream like quality of 24 but when I did a straight up conversion on fcpx it didn’t quite come out right. Do you have any ideas on how to convert ocean waves at 60 to something ‘dream like’ ?
@JoeWangTW
@JoeWangTW 3 года назад
she really "nailed" it the juice.
@Kraeuterbutter
@Kraeuterbutter 8 месяцев назад
dont get ist. when i slow down a 30fps video by 80% for a 24fps Timeline ---> is it not still eliminating 6 frames? so whyis it not choppy?
@petreskyfilms
@petreskyfilms 2 года назад
Great information ~ thank you for this video!
@avartefilms7346
@avartefilms7346 6 месяцев назад
Hi and thanks, but what timeline should I create if I will have footage with different fps? 24, 30, 60?
@piratafilms1325
@piratafilms1325 2 года назад
you are not discovering nothing, 30fps is the look of soap operas jajajajajajajajaja
@alibelal9414
@alibelal9414 3 года назад
defiantly i will try that.
@chipcurry
@chipcurry 2 года назад
Great job. Great looking footage. Thank you!
@zhivu-vopreki
@zhivu-vopreki 6 месяцев назад
Why you SHOULD shoot in 30fps and video is in 24fps . . . I personally use 60fps.
@Scarfy66
@Scarfy66 2 года назад
Def gonna use this :DD
@the_overflow
@the_overflow 9 месяцев назад
What is the point of 30 fps if you post it 24 fps to youtube where most people are viewing it 60 Hz monitors, resulting very bad motion flow.
@l.e.phillips
@l.e.phillips 3 месяца назад
Did you even watch the video? 🙄
@terrygriffin5201
@terrygriffin5201 8 месяцев назад
Are you still selling your luts? You store isn't available anymore.
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