I pulled Sparkle when she first released and I basically haven't touched her since. The problem with Sparkle is that she buffs only one character and provides mainly crit dmg, which automatically makes her useless in anything other than crit hypercarry teams, meaning no break, DoT, or dual DPS setups will work with her. But the real problem with her is that 50% AA, which prohibits her from running a -1 SPD setup with the DPS making her ironically worse than Bronya for certain DPS units like Jingliu and Blade, or hell even someone like Boothill who uses Bronya solely for the 100% AA even though he's a break DPS. When you think about it, Sparkle is only good for SP hungry DPS units that always run ATK boots instead of SPD boots, which really just boils it down to Seele and DHIL, because even someone like Yunli, who technically fits the description, works better with Robin than with Sparkle. In fact every single crit DPS works best with Robin as they either run SPD boots with Robin instead of Sparkle or at best they run Robin + Sparkle.
I think the bigger issue is what playstyles the characters introduce. Sparkle isn't a bad unit, once in a blue moon i'll borrow my pals cause i wanna feel what my team could have felt like if i got her, but when you already have bronya there isn't a bigger niche sparkle is really filling or that different of a playstyle. sure you could put in more hungry dps characters. I'd think she'd finally let me use Welt since i have him e2 and built, but that isn't super worth it in the long run.
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@@willhebonkyainthechocola-jd7pm She still has 50% AA on a single target and 48% Dmg boost teamwide. Not mentioning Skill Points. Pretty universal to me. There isn't a new unit that is a perfect pair for her yet, that's all.
IMO, get Sparkle if you want to vertically invest in teams, or if you really want to get the most out of DHIL. She goes brilliantly with E2 Acheron (alongside FF, the most Eidolon''d limited character) and now I have Jiaoqui this team can 0 cycle MoC, 3.8k Apoc, and 40k PF.
@@Meow_meow_nee They are basically the same in number of cycles for completion. Actually, the strongest team is probably sustainless with both Sparkle and Robin. However, Robin being best with Yunli, Ratio and potentially Feixiao means she's far more likely to be used on the other side of whatever content you're doing, unless you're running Break.
No. Sparkle is best in slot because she advance forward Acheron every turn, while Robin will not be able to advance forward every turn. and Acheron team comps will not generate nearly enough attack for Robin to charge her ult. If you got E2S1, that extra turn translates to 3 ult Stacks and consequently more ults @@Meow_meow_nee
i started playing around sparkle first banner i dont really use her much i only have acheron that works with crit but i use dotcheron i do regret getting sparkle and wish i would’ve saved the gems and gotten robin
I pulled sparkle on her first run only bc she seems cute, i use her on acheron teams and for Herta hypercarry on PF I also have Robin but i don't use FUA very much😅 Jiao is amazing too, he improve my acheron team and dr ratio too I also think that Robin is the more universal of them, so pull Robin is always a good advice
If you don't already have pretty cracked DHIL you don't need Sparkle. But if you already have DHIL, or trying to build mono Quantum team, then she's practically best in slot. Based on how Hoyoverse move for several patches I'm gonna bet there will be broken Quantum DPS (Destruction or Hunt unit) released in the future and she will be great again at that point.
Beginning of the game hypercarry teams were meta. I got E1S1 sparkle and yeah she is a huge direct buffer for a single DPS but she also buffs the whole team with her talent, E1 and SLC so she's quite versatile at that point. E0 no SLC? Yeah, not versatile and poor value to robin and ruan mei. Even less if you lost a 50/50 and got bronya. I was gonna skip her initial run but she had the best trailer and myriad celestia on release 😂
You mention you're not an Acheron player and that's why you won't pull Jiaoqiu, which is fair, but I would say it's worth considering his value with Yunli, not as a replacement for Robin, but to play alongside her. Yunli's damage profile leans heavily towards ultimate damage so he may well be her best support after Robin (though Topaz is also really strong here). People are heavily underestimating Jiaoqiu's potential because they compare him directly to Robin/RM but I really don't think this is the slot he is contesting. His place is where you would normally run a 2nd support or sub-DPS as this is where he brings the most value. Consider that when running 2 supports often their buffs start to become saturated. Vuln does not have this problem.
Jiaoqiu is an excellent unit but for Acheron mostly. If you don't play Acheron, there are some other characters that should be a priority in terms of pulls.
@@Meow_meow_nee For sure pull priority should be on an account by account basis, for instance if you don't have Robin she is worth infinitely more. However the common idea that he is only worth getting for Acheron is simply incorrect.
TLDR: You don't like hypercarry, that's why you don't recommend sparkle. Sparkle is better than you think. She enables using more SP heavy characters like Huohuo (feeding her ult for even more SP). She enables using ATK boots on your hypercarry, at 160+ SPD, for S1 acheron that's a lot of stacks. Also, everyone should get all 5-star harmony. Let's be real. Using robin does not mean you can't use Sparkle as well. After a certain point when your account gets strong enough you won't even need to use a sustain.
seems like you have your preferences. Robin can be used as generic buffer for mostly any team and her action advance is terrible in autobattle - she is wasting a lot of possible actions of her teammates, but in general manual control is not too much better overal. Sparkle has similar issues with autobattle, but she is more one dps focused and basically she is best DHIL support, and some people mention Seele. So if you don't have these DPSes I am not sure if you would need Sparkle at all, at least at this point of time.
Most hyper carries would have Robin in their team, even Robin taking Sparkle’s spot. 100% advance to all allies is insane compared to a mere 50% advance to just one Ally that buffs crit dmg. Crit dmg can get over saturated the more invested your dps is. Robin can also contribute to team’s dmg while Sparkle does 0 damage. Even Acheron has join the Robin shenanigans with Jiaoqiu coming out. Because Jiaoqiu and Robin works really well together, both helps buff each other’s dmg while buffing Acheron. I think Sparkle has been overlooked when her banner first launched and now it has been realized that Robin can do Sparkle’s role but better in terms of lower cycling clears or brute forcing. Bronya has been seeing more lights because her 100% advance is still valuable. I will say Sparkle does make your gameplay really comfortable because she is very auto battle friendly. As for Jiaoqiu, ever since I got him, playing Acheron has been more fun. Being able to spam more ults is quite satisfying.
Great video! I also would wanna add. Don't get scared by people saying some units are top tier or bottom tier. So long as you play right and effective, you can have your carries supported by even Asta who will always be great for giving around 50 speed to an entire team. No one else can do that yet. Just play for playstyles. Sometimes you'll pick a character that isn't getting buffed now, or anytime soon and if you're only in it for now/you're newer, just pick who you like and focus into making your selected teams the best they can be. If you only played around Acheron, please pull Jiao. If you pull for Sparkle she will stay viable no matter what for tons of content. Especially if you play long enough to skip new characters and just dig for eidolons. Most eidolons will make any unit the best unit by a long shot. Sparkle becomes able to support a whole team off e6 but no one said you need to be a while and dump all your pulls in one sitting. Just play smart, pull smart, play the content, get the chests. It's not that hard. I love blade, pulled him 1.2, had to wait until 2.3 to make a comp with him that is actually super fun and then 2.4 to snag the cone just to make the team that much better so he can be used as my sustainer in simulated/divergent universe content. don't get scared by fomo, just play how you like. get a good spread of units and be sure to build what your team needs. Asta is still great, i used built Hanya with 170 speed before combat instead of pulling sparkle and my Dan Heng does better than fine.
Love the discussion and insights. But please dont have the character screen on the background with sound on. Those idle animation sounds got old very fast
0:38 Based on just observation alone, I suspect that your Sparkle (Hanabi) is not on the right build. With reference to what you said on 3:48, I suspect that you're Hanabi is not on a ERR rope and/or not on a 5% ERR planar set. Here's the thing, Hanabi guarantees 3 turn ULT regardless of what you do, because her BA generates 30 Energy, equivalent to her skill, and 3 * 30 * 124.4% = 111.96 > 110 energy cap. The fact that you mentioned that there's a possibility for a 4 turn ult, and seeing that you are running her on Bronya's Light Cone, the most questionable thing I've seen given that 1. you she doesn't need the extra ERR on the right build, 2. you can't guarantee the next character to move after her skill will be the one to be the one you want since her AA is only 50%, 3. she gives out enough DMG% generally where extra DMG% hits diminish returns and that other forms of buff (like DDD's AA) is more useful overall. 1:35 Ignoring your Robin vs Hanabi argument, the FuXuan vs Aventurine comparison isn't even fair. You are not a day 1 player, you are a 1.6 player. FuXuan to you was released on 2.2, while for most of us, FuXuan was released in 1.3. The circumstances in which FuXuan was released is now different. And with regards to what you mentioned about one being better than the other (which I'll assume you are implying that Aventurine is better), this is very biased to how you play the game. I'll touch one this a bit later. 3:23 There is a huge problem with your claim here. It is true that there is a lack of Hypercarry units for quite some time, the claim you made here, in tandem with your claim at 1:35, is problematic. Basically, as you mentioned in 1:54, the set of character released in the future will be changing, and that as time goes on, Hanabi's usefulness would fluctate as well. However, at the same time, you are dismissing Hanabi due to "the lack of newer Hypercarry units being released" since her release. You mentioned at 4:34 that Seele and DHIL are not as strong units as the current roster, which suggests that as time goes on, newer, and likely stronger characters will be released, with the potential for them to be synergistic with Hanabi. So then, why are you comparing the usefulness of Hanabi vs Robin based on synergy with current units, when as soon as a better character gets released in the future will change Hanabi's usefulness. In otherwise, you are using current "data" to make a prediction, when there is no neccesary correlation between the present trend and the future trend. That's equivalent to betting on a roullette wheel based on past data when there is no real correlation between the 2. 5:07 Bringing back the first point, your experience with the 2 of them are very biased to your playstyle and build. Like I said, your Hanabi build is questionable at best, and also you play a lot of follow-up characters. Your experience doesn't translate to those who don't exactly match yours, meaning that your advice, which is heavily based on your experience, is not neccesarily applicable to others. What if a player who plays Seele or DHIL or even QingQue, and what about an Acheron/DoT player. Your advice don't work well with their account and their experience. 5:30 I don't neccesarily disagree with this part, but I would to say that Break teams are not neccesarily the most future proof units in the game. In fact, at least in my opinion, super break units are very susceptible to environment changing. When enemy HP values increase, super break will face the same issue as raw damage characters, which is low percentage values. This means that more likely than not future super break character will very easily overtake the current ones, and supports are very easy to override as well, making RM less useful. Then again, this is a general prediction based on my experience with Genshin, and it's very hard to say how it will turn out. 6:21 Harmony characters do not neccesarily have to compete with each other. What's important is that they fulfill what they need to in their current team. For instace, one of Seele's greatest teams involves both Robin and Hanabi working together to maximise Seele's turn count within Robin's duration. 6:57 In practise, Robin and Hanabi work well individually in DoT teams. In DoT teams, numbers are not the be all end all, as the triggering frequence impacts the effectiveness of DoT teams as well. However, for all your money's worth, the best "support" for DoT teams is either RuanMei or Acheron, so generally, don't concern yourselves with other supports and use them in another teams. 8:50 This brings back the issue I brought up 5 points ago. The suggestion of "wait till there's a character that synergises with Hanabi then pull Hanabi" is while in practise ideal doesn't work due to the points I mentioned and a few more. By the time Hanabi reruns, which based on past data might be 14 banners or more, and assuming you get this character than theoretically synergises with Hanabi, you will reach the exact same point as you are now, weighing the pros and cons, and judging a character in a similar way. However, by that point, what you should and would be weighing wouldn't be usefulness with past characters, but potential with future ones, and reach the exact same standstill as we are in right now. Also, consider another aspect, where you don't get Hanabi now, and the new character gets released, and you actively choose to not get because "I don't have Hanabi", leading to when Hanabi reruns again "I don't have X character" so skips Hanabi and repeat. Often time that would be the case for people, but these procresses are not independent of your decisions to pull other characters as well. Take for example: I don't have Topaz, so I will take the free Dr Ratio, but ignore Aventurine and Robin because I don't have Topaz anyways, and when Topaz reruns, I don't get her because I don't have the other team members. In practise, the idea of waiting until it's confirmed (when it comes to long term decisions especially in Gacha games) is not a feasible one. A parallel I can draw is the stock market, where by the time you wait until you know a company is earning you consistent profit and then you invest, you will earn a lot less compared to those who invested before the confirmation. 10:26 When it comes to Acheron playstyles, there are a few things to keep in mind. Acheron's signature Light Cone is the minimum bar for you getting her. If you're not in a position to get Acheron and her Sig (0+1 Acheron), don't bother. Acheron's E2 while reducing the Nihility team member requirement by 1 doens't mean you can only run one Nihility character. Her stack gaining methods are still the same: apply debuff, get a stack, so a 3rd Nihility team member in a 2+1 Acheron team is not neccesarily worse off compared to running her with Hanabi and only one other Nihility team member. And also, the condition for pulling JiaoQiu for Acheron is that the benefits for pulling for JiaoQiu for Acheron is better than your current roster. In other words, if you have Silverwolf and a well built Pela/GuiNaiFen, or you run a DoT team, you don't need JiaoQiu. His value is not high enough where if you have one of these 2 fulfilled you don't need him anymore. 12:50 I'll say this. Almost everyone with basic knowledge and foresight predicted the huge shifts in team comp variation. Most of those who have delved in the TC community for long enough have already forsaw these shifts. The reason most TC strongly suggests for Hanabi is due to her high value overall for the long term. The idea of a Meta shift is expected, and theremore we never ignore the possibilit for resurgence or just general growth in a playstyle. 13:57 Just to share my own thoughts on this, the reason why this seems to be the case is because when you have such a unit, it becomes much harder to overtake them in their role without higher numbers of delving into other teritories. However, the moment they do get overtaken, they get overtaken hard, and a very good example would be between Bronya and Hanabi. So TL;DR: Your advice are not very general and skewed towards what you understand and experience, and doesn't delve into what you don't. You have a tendency to extrapolate the little amount of knowledge you have in order to justify your opinion. And as such, your foresight into what will happen is not reliable due to heavy skewness. So while your opinions (not advice) can be considered, it's not something someone should take blindly, and is advised to explore further.
Sadly she needs at least e1s1/e2s0 to keep up with the team buffing other than hypercarry. That's why i pushed e1s1 for her. Now im enjoying +10cr+28cd+longer cipher duration with 40 percent attack to the whole team.
I am not a whale but a dolphin and Sparkle is really great for my E2 Acheron. IMHO whale starts beyond E2. I am investing vertically in 2 teams: Acheron & Firefly.
i remember when the doomposting about jiaoqiu got worst because him and sparkle are on the same banner patch saying his value decreases more but now a lot of people are saying the opposite and that sparkle is the one with low value and that they regret pulling for her lmao.
gotta say, i love jingyuan, so i was waiting to pull for sparkle, and she made my general shine again. but yeah robin is more helpfull for most of the characters
I'm saving everything I have to try and get Robin, Feixiao and her weapon. Lets see if my lucky will help out on the 50-50 or if I will run short, I think at least the characters I will have enough but will be really happy if I can squeeze her weapon as well. I have almost everything I need to level them up farmed already
sparkle is not best in slot for seele anymore. best seele team is bronya and robin. so even if youre day one player sparkle at E0 at least is not going to be good at all.
not interested in Sparkle, I have no team she'd fit in. I went for Kafka/DoT initially (I started in 1.2, and I picked the game up for Kafka specifically), then branched into FUA a bit but that got retired with Acheron and Firefly coming out. Those are my 3 teams now. A bit interested in Jiaoqiu but I don't "need" him (got Pela and SW for Acheron). Waiting to see who gets a re-run on 2.5 before deciding if I'll pull for him. I'm looking for SW E2, BS E1 and Acheron E1/2. Picked up Robin "just in case" during her first time around so FUA is still on the table if needs must be.
Sparkle has been one of my most-used characters since I got her (since Dan Heng IL is my fav character). Robin's problem for me has always been the lack of skill point generation... she generates none while she's singing (and you want to keep her singing all the time), so for DHIL especially, it's not sustainable. My three invested teams are DHIL hypercarry, Acheron hypercarry, and Firefly, so I really don't have much use for Robin besides maybe in PF with himeko/herta. 13:40 "I find that characters with stronger niches with more unique stuff...have more longevity, than more generic characters do". I'd say Sparkle does have a niche with crit hypercarries that need skill points (quantum in particular). I'll be surprised if they completely stop releasing characters like that.
I think mathematically it makes sense that at least 1-2 strong DPS in the future are hypercarries and SP hungry (since that isnt extremely specific, and a lot of characters will be released in the future obviously) so I do think Sparkle will definitely get better with time. Thing is if your comparing her to other Harmonies, they will also get better with time, and some (Ruan Mei/Robin) are also insane rn I'd still say though if you like the hypercarry playstyle get Sparkle- she will benefit at some point in the future. If not though then not worth it imo
