Widower seeking accountability after home birth tragedy 

It is their fault for making those decisions

My thoughts exactly.

I agree. It was their choice. He's as much to blame as anyone.

Always someone wanting to place the blame on someone, especially when they were aware of the complications, and risks, but instead moved forward with a midwife that had been investigated.

The midwife needs prison time. It’s murder x’s 2. Bc even if the family was wrong, she should have known better and said no.

Agreed!!

I feel sorry for the family, but I understand that there was lack of practicality and research about the midwife and the situation. Although, I wonder if she was thoroughly educated by previous doctors about why she had a C-section and what state her uterus was in.

We are in 2024 for godSake ! Why risk it?

@@rubytuesday1316 Because medical misinformation is rampant. People stop trusting doctors and start trusting their crystals.

It was their first baby and trusted a wack job

I bet she wouldn't have gotten them vaccinated for polio.

@@halfbakedmedia Don't be an ass.

Agree.

Trolling comments where a mother and baby lost their lives… Class act.

I agree I’m sorry but what was she thinking

Thank you!! Yea like she’s a NURSE😮

She should have stopped at two. There's no excuse for having more than two.

Come on though, there are plenty of nurses who are anti Vax, that nursing degree doesn't give common sense

@@abfranchi Only mindless sheep still think being forced to take the vax was a good thing.

@abfranchi What does this have to do with anti-vax? Also, I’m a nurse and almost no nurse I know is anti-vax. A very few refused the new COVID vaccine initially when it was mandated for healthcare workers and quit, or were fired. Turns out they had legitimate reasons to be concerns. Did you know 600,000 people worldwide developed Bell’s palsy within 30 days after the vaccine? I know someone like that and she now has a permanently paralyzed face. What you don’t realize is that we’ve been getting vaccinated for years with other vaccines and that we have legitimate reasons for having concerns about this one. I’m so thankful it’s not mandated for my job anymore, because the last booster caused memory issues for me. Having said that, this nurse should have known better and the midwife should have refused to assist and told her to go to the hospital. They’re both at fault.

exactly

You can have a vb after a c-section. It can be more risky or complicated for some women but there have also been many successful vbacs. Everyone needs to know their own risks, their medical history and make informed decisions.

My daughter had a c-section with her first baby. The second baby came out at home right when she went to washroom. There was no time for anyone to get there on time except her husband who was with her.

I was offered to have a natural birth after a C-section

Successful VBAC here.

Registered Nurse midwives are highly trained. Lay midwives are trained with experience but not formally medically trained. A registered nurse midwife usually works with providers and hospitals, and has a back up plan. If I were having a baby after to c-sections I would get an all clear from an Obstetrician before I attempted VBAC and I would NOT do it at home. That is a big risk and a midwife redflag. She should have known better.

@@archerandthemouse They are NOT doctors. I don't care how trained you think they are.

@@archerandthemouse yeah, that’s fine but not for high-risk pregnancies

@@blackcherry6877 I am not arguing that they are not doctors but you don't need a doctor for most deliveries. Having a baby isn't a medical emergency. If you have one or any complications a doctor is the way to go, and I think I stated hospital or birth center.

@archerandthemouse You just said having a baby is not a medical emergency...you have absolutely no credibility/knowledge/commonsense 🤦‍♀️

Were you still able to get pregnant again after that or did you have to get your uterus removed?

@@20PINKluvr they patched me up but warned me not to get pregnant again. Hubby was going to get snipped but the month before his appt, we had a condom split and boom…our 4th was on his way (a week before ovulation mind you, he was a real surprise). Needless to say, I went to a high risk OBGYN who did frequent ultrasounds and I was on bed rest the last 6 months. My OB took him a month early and while he did have a short stay in the NICU, he was healthy and fine. Since I was already open, I made sure they tied my tubes- cut, fried, stitched, clamped. The pregnancy was a breeze but we all worried, my husband most of all. He still feels guilty and that was 20 years ago. But short answer is, yes, it’s possible to have a successful pregnancy following a rupture but not recommended, especially if you can’t stay off your feet. But I love my little surprise guy so much, I can’t imagine life any other way. On a side note, I was diagnosed with Elhers Danlos after his birth and found out many women with this condition are at high risk of rupture, especially if they’ve had a previous C-section but it can happen spontaneously even without one.

Omg glad you listened to your strong intuition. ❤

He can easily remarry, but the two children will never get their mom back.

💯

And the poor baby.

He looked like he had mourned, grieved and on to the next chapter of his life....didn't sit well with me. Js

@@sharoneuby-62 yeah, hes showing off those teeth, suspiciously a lil too much

Wondering that

I've wondered about this for years....how? I've noticed it though, not as uncommon as you'd think it would be. I've wondered, how do these people get through all that schooling? Probably just able to memorize and regurgitate information well enough but never developed the ability to synthesize it

Common sense ain’t so common.

It will never cease to amaze me when people ignore scientific evidence, medical consensus, anecdotal stories, and history as a whole.... You see it all the time, especially with the current state of our politics. It's just disappointing. This is why schools need to continue to push critical thinking, even though the right is trying push laws to limit the spread of knowledge.

The nurse patient knew the risks but played the odds! 😢

Because even nurses know how horrible the hospital can be.

@@-_-Jacob-_-What do you mean? She would’ve atleast survived if she had the baby at the hospital, they have everything they need to help high risk people.

He looks fishy...smiling ear to ear

When he said they had this vision of a birthing pool in the living room under the Christmas tree, I thought this poor man and his wife were trying to live in some fantasy world. Just because somebody gives the answers people want to hear doesn’t make them more qualified or competent. This couple had some picture perfect idea in their heads and it turned out to be a nightmare.

You’re not wrong. It’s horrible all around. Horrible and foolish.

@86crud no, im not wrong. My opinion is just different from yours. That doesn't make me wrong. A nurse should have known that she was at higher risk having had a prior c-section.

@@crimwolf7672 I think you misunderstood. I typed you’re not wrong. Yes, I’m astounded that a nurse risked a vbac at home on top of not researching her midwife before hiring her.

Your comment is unhelpful, this midwife has publicly stated she will continue to practice even after her license has been revoked. She has many cases where people have been hurt and lives altered. Whether or not Jordan knew it was risky is not the point. This woman failed to check vitals! This woman failed to call for the help needed when it could have saved Jordan and her baby, because she’s a stubborn and egotistical woman. She needs to be stopped

Considering the US has an abnormally high maternal mortality rate you're not really guaranteed quality healthcare anywhere here, even in a hospital. Especially in a red state. TX is one of the worst states to give birth in. Women's healthcare in the US is a disgrace. It's an embarrassment how badly we treat female patients. Especially patients who are POC.

Most women choose home birth because they have previously experienced a traumatic birth at the hospital. It's not just about having some hippy dippy experience, it's about not experiencing coercion, freedom of movement, avoiding interventions that cause issues, etc. Many hospital interventions are unnecessary and dangerous. The problem is that this midwife was negligent. Women do not normally die from home births.

Agreed. Sadly a lot of women get focused on the “experience” instead of acknowledging the reality of the risks. Hopefully, others can learn and this man gets justice for his family.

Your comment makes no sense. Just because Jordan was an ER nurse does not mean it gives this midwife the right/excuse to be negligent. She needs to be held accountable and prevented from putting other women and babies at risk. Rest in peace, Jordan and baby.

There’s a lot of successful vbacs at home. People just don’t talk about. Midwives are extremely trained and this is unfortunate that this midwife let it get to this. Most would not.

It's not that dangerous, but it should risk you out of a home birth by any competent midwife.

Why someone that had a C-section needs to have another one for her next pregnancy? Just wondering 👍🏼

@DolceAnz because the uterus has been cut to get the baby out once....the c section cuts through layers of abdominal muscle and the uterus to retrieve the baby. Having your uterus cut can increase your chances of uterine rupture in a subsequent birth, which is a medical emergency and can cause death if not treated immediately. Often women who have had a c section are advised to not try a vaginal delivery again bc of this risk.

No doubt Dad is full of regret in regards to their “ideal” birth situation under the Christmas tree. So risky.

Idk because it’s something that occurred for thousands of years before a hospital

And many women died during them.

@@rebeccaa2433 many women have died during hospital births as well what’s your point

@@TheAS687 with complications a woman's chances are much better in a hospital where they have the staff and facilities to care for her needs. Blood loss alone is catastrophic at home vs the hospital where blood is readily available.

Because doctors and nurses can be controlling. Forcing their wants and desires (especially medications) upon you. Also nurses have too many patients to care for nowadays. Therefore you don't get proper care even in hospital. Many women have lost their life because of nurses not checking on a patient properly after a c-section. Also nurses and doctors will lie saying that you are progressing when you are not. Why they do this is beyond me. It's really hard to rest in a hospital with all the machines, announcements, and people entering into your room. The list goes on....

agreed

Sad, but could make him feel better.

This is the brutal truth. They should’ve known better.

$$$ Cures all ails.

As a mom with 4 hospital births and 4 home births, you are exactly correct.

I agree. He wishes he knew then what he knows now, but we knew this was a very bad idea.

Yeah Einstein that's what they said we really didn't need you to regurgitate it

@@rachelsill79 I’m so glad you made this statement to put Christine in her place. How dare she reiterate something that was said during the video. I’m sure she will remember your comment in the future before she makes the same mistake again. You are out here doing God’s work.

Agree they all have responsibility

Nurses today aren’t even smart. Most are dei hires.

I don't know what her complications on her previous births were, but I was warned on my first child not to try going through labor--after a bout of Braxton-Hicks, they hospitalized me and took the baby that night because the contractions had gotten more serious, plus he was full-term so there was no reason to put it off. The first pregnancy was just complicated enough that I didn't even consider not having a c-section with my second, would have been horrified of trying it at home. I feel really bad for the husband, but that was sooooo risky.

Right! Why would you accept this case?

I know the doctor that performed the C-section on this mother told her that if she was to have another child, it would also be delivered by a C-section.

@@reneeb4756the guy shouldn’t be able to sue the midwife. That was on the parents for wanting a home birth

The wife was a nurse... she knew what she was doing and what the risks were. She should have more knowledge than the midwife.. she went to nursing school.

I had an amazing home birth, all went perfectly. I wasn't scared at all.

@awkwardautistic Just because she went to medical school doesn't mean she knows more than a midwife or anyone else. In an emergency situation, she would be useful. Otherwise, no.

Homebirth is not scary. They always show bad cases to try to sway people to think it's the worst in the world when in reality, it was the thing before conventional medicine decided to tkse over and make profits from it and treat it as an emergency. It's a natural occurrence that happens in a woman's life. Generally, homebirth is safe.

@@MeganJohnson913I didn't say she knew more than the midwife or anyone else. But she went through nursing school and had given birth once before.. so she should have known the risks. And giving birth can be scary no matter where it happens... women die all the time. Many women today are a lot less healthy than they were in the past as well.. which increases the risk. Yes, in general it's safe.. but obviously things can and do happen.

Right? This makes absolutely no sense. She had two very high risk deliveries that occurred in the hospital, so…..3rd time’s the charm? Roll the dice on that tiebreaker? So not just one, but two people with medical backgrounds looked at the previous dangerous deliveries and said ‘chyup let’s do this!’ Yes, a scar represents the stronger part of any injury, however, the surrounding tissue is that much more susceptible to rupture. Along with so many countless complications that a midwife is just incredibly unprepared for and this is just a recipe for disaster and tragedy. I believe the midwife is just a complete fraud who should absolutely lose her license, but where’s the due diligence on this ER nurse’s part? There’s absolutely no chance she wasn’t intelligent enough to know to check the credentials and rating on this person, but also to know enough that having *A HOME DELIVERY UNDER THE CHRISTMAS TREE AND STOCKINGS* was just grossly negligent and terribly irresponsible and dangerous on her part. I don’t care what this midwife promised, she was educated in the medical field and knew enough physicians that would have advised her on the correct steps to take, even if she chose to ignore them.

They just looked until they found someone who said what they wanted to hear. Poor baby is the victim of an incompetent midwife and selfish parents

Shouldn’t have been at home in the first place.

And don't forget the fact that they deprived their other kids of growing up with their mom in their lives

Doctors have at most 30 min to have you on the operating table and open to save the baby. I had 2 s C Sections. My first was emergency, 2nd I would've bled to death if I wasn't already on the operating table. My doctors advised me to not have anymore. I got pregnant 3 yrs later and I was a high risk pregnancy and they delivered my daughter a month early to make sure I didn't go into labor. I'd love to know what she was thinking after 2 complicated c sections.

And would give her credibility for her own goals to become a midwife! My Maternal/ Child instructor was a midwife from India, whose rural clients had no choice but to deliver in the fields they worked in. When my teacher got to Canada she got her RN degree, and worked in a hospital Labour and Delivery. As Nursing students we asked her are you going to open a midwife practice here? She very clearly said while she thought hospitals could improve the birthing experience, she didn't understand why women would want to be so far from the best help possible, just to be " in style".

I had five children with midwives, one at home. No complications, all healthy. But without any painkillers, childbirth is excruciating. This trend of presenting it as a "beautiful experience" seems a little over-competitive and not really helpful for women. I've tried to warn people but they think I'm just not good enough at the Jedi mind tricks required to shut off the pain.

Unfortunately, people in general tend to have a “bad things only happen to other people” mentality. They want a certain thing so much they will talk themselves into believing that something tragic won’t happen to them.

I was thinking the same. I’m surprised that she decided to have a home birth. She shouldn’t gotten medical input from a obgyn before moving forward. This was a disaster waiting to happen. The midwife should’ve never agreed to do this . This was way out of her scope . So sad

She was better off having VBaC at the hospital but maybe she had such terrible births prior to this one that she didn’t trust hospital’s .

the MW specialized in VBACs….so probably why so many of her patients died, idk.

Why did you ask if the OB/ GYN doctor agree with the mothers decision, the doctor ( unfortunately) can’t stop her

I thought the same thing- I wonder if her Ob Gyn advised against a home birth. If she had high risk pregnancies, I’m sure at some point during her prenatal care, she was informed of the risks of her home birthing plan. They can’t stop her per se, but the blame shouldn’t solely fall on the midwife either.

I'm sure many of her coworkers warned her, not to mention as a nurse she knew the risks.

I said the exact same thing.

Yes, but also women end up in a lot of unnecessary C-sections...the gaslighting from doctors...it is tough being a woman..who can you trust?

@@cynthiamacias2611 well one of my grandmothers lost 3 out of her 4 home birthed babies ( my mother was the only one who survived) my other grandmother lost 2 of her home birthed babies ( that was how it was done back then) there is a reason women started having babies in a hospital, I worked as a nurse for 43 years, my 93 year old mother was a labor and delivery nurse for decades she and I both agreed we have never seen a c-section that wasn’t needed, most people who say they do too many c-sections don’t actually know how it is first hand, just what they read somewhere online…. And this lady OBVIOUSLY needed one, she and her baby died, It would have been better for her to have had one even if she thought it might not have been necessary than for her and her baby to both die, leaving her husband a widower and her other 2 children without a mother…

@@cynthiamacias2611you can almost definitely trust a uterine rupture during a VBAC especially at home 🤦🏾‍♀️

I had an unnecessary c section at the hospital. And then did extensive research/prep and had 2 successful Vbacs in the hospital. There are risks with both options. But having 2 c-sections is a definite reason to be in the hospital for sure

@@julialee143 glad it worked out for you, I wasn’t willing to risk my child or my life

@@ElleBrOw Her body, her choice, her decisions. No man has any power whatsoever in birthing choices (or lots of other choices). You can't have it both ways ... want all your own choices ... but tye ability to blame the man if the outcome of your choice goes wrong.

@@ElleBrOw 5th wave toxic feminism.

Exactly

​@@susansmith493 learn to read!! No one mentioned the husband!!! 🙄

​@@susansmith493 No man is being blamed here...lol! They literally said the woman made a choice and it was fatal.

I agree, I delivered my son in 2018 in a birth center (similar to home) they say from beginning, if you are high risk you cannot deliver here.

That's what I'm thinking. In Canada, once you're high risk, you have to give birth at the hospital.

Yer I think both parents where psychologically compromised. Maybe ptsd from their passed high risk pregnancy. All the trauma and suffering in the hospital birth probably influenced their decided to do this as an alternative. The mom/nurse might have had a bit of an ego and thought she and the midwife had enough medival knowledge and experience to handle any complications. Even when things took a turn south they waited to long to call for the ambulance the mom didnt want to "give up" and go to the hospital. I hope the dad makes it through this and be there for rhe child/kids he still has. If he talked about accoubtability but eventually he has to accept that heand his wife were responsible for thier decisions just like the midwife.

I have had two home births. But I was with NO complications. The midwives will NOT do home births if you have any high risk complications!!!

@@truthnotliesI wish this was true. There are so many stories like this.

😢😢

Exactly. They're gonna have a harder time proving the midwife's negligence caused the deaths, rather than creating an incredibly risky situation themselves.

My guess is, they chose this midwife after a number of other midwives told them "No, I won't do that." This one told the Mama everything she wanted to hear.

@@nancymcmonarch I bet you are right!!! Makes sense

The way he said she answered all my questions, it kinda sounded like he was the one who wanted a home birth

@@danielleburke87 I agree.

@@danielleburke87 Or his wife was all in and he was hesitant, but convinced after she answered a series of questions.

Right, sounds more like they wanted Instagram/Facebook pics

I agree. In situations like this, none of the parties don’t want to admit that “aesthetics” is the main influence behind their risky actions.

it has nothing to do with aesthetics and has everything to do with the health and wellbeing of both mother and child. Birth is physiological and home births especially in america treat it as such. C-section rates in america are high and the CDC just put out notice admitting that women are being neglected and abused. The survival of mother and child is the bare minimum. Obstetric violence and traumatic births never leave the mother and depending on what occurred can cause unnecessary complications for the baby.

Maybe they did it because healthcare costs in the US are exorbitant?

@@celestialmorphoagreed!

Both myself and daughter would not be here had I planned home birth and I was 27 and healthy. The parents are to blame for ignoring the obvious risks, Mom was a nurse and knew better... I'm so sorry for them, but they are partly to blame for sure.

So agree. I had one and thank God good. The second one again textbook pregnancy. Last 20 min of the delivery there was distress and nicu for 5 days . Thank God. Had to go from one hospital to another. 5 min away. I hate to victim blame but come on. The husband was to protect her and she knew better too. Its crazy. I just cant see how anyone living in the best country would want to live like a cave person. Makes me think of the big bang theory "is she having a home birth?" " My Sister wants to live in the stone age but the cave wasnt available". Jokes aside women used to die a lot 100 years ago, along with the babies. Its no time to mess around

My easy birth turned into a nightmare on the table. If I had not been in the hospital no one would have made it. Hospitals are where you should be because it's not all a romantic event under a tree.

Mine baby flipped also and once they got in there by emergency c section she was not moving and had the umbilical cord tightly around her neck. It was horrible when they took her out and no crying for what seemed like an eternity. I praise the one nurse who woke my limp baby up (my sister saw everything) and luckily baby was fine, we survived because we were in the hospital...no complications. She's now a 31 yr old beauty!!❤

Then why are DOCTORS doing vbacs.

@@beautifulwonder398Doing VBACs are dangerous and should outlawed. My cousin had four children and each one of them were healthy C-section babies.

@@beautifulwonder398 there are people in every profession that will do things for money

@@beautifulwonder398 I had a Vbac

Wow! How can that mother even think about it. He is in the right to sue because the midwife sdvertised regarding VBAC. But he surely knows this is preventable. I won't blame him though, I'm sure the in such cases, the woman is so adamant, a husband will just follow. All this risk because the wife wants to be a midwife. 😮

Thank you! I'm thinking, if your wife is turning colors and the midwife isn't taking vitals, it's time to step in and get her to the hospital not wait and see. He's right for going after the midwife, unfortunately it's after losing the mother of his children.

I mean, didn't we see hundreds of nurses quit during Covid because they were either anti-mask or anti-vax? Nothing surprises me anymore.

I want a home birth. I want a hospital birth without drugs. She already had 2 children. Some women have a birth plan and they want to stick to it no matter what.

@dimples2000 yeah... I had that plan. Was sure it would be great. But I had to be informed that my full hip dysplasia would make that very dangerous. On top of that, I had complications during my pregnancy. "Stick to the birth plan no matter what" is just stupid. Anything can happen during a pregnancy and it's rare that pregnancy and child birth ever "go as planned". That's fairy tale stuff. And as an ER nurse, this woman would've known that.

I’m 20 weeks and planning a water birth at home. I’m not high risk and I have a midwife, doula, and medical assistants who will be at my birth. It’s possible to have a home birth after c section births. She needed to research and find a better midwife. I do have to say I most likely would have been better if she was in a hospital and had a midwife there. Midwife’s also debate on taking you on if you’re high risk. Plans or not I know that if something goes wrong the people around me will pull the plug and take me and my child to a hospital.

@@dimples2000 this is true but common sense and her medical training should have trumped her wants. She put herself over her child. SMH

She probably DID know better, but hoped she'd be one of the lucky ones. As she wanted to become a midwife herself, she likely didn't want to tell clients, "I had all three of my kids in the hospital."

she won’t tell them anything now

She should have known better, but why would the midwife not just say no way can this decision be good, and not take her on as a patient. Unbelievable

As the Mama wanted to become a midwife herself, she likely wanted to assure her potential clients that she, herself had given birth successfully at home. Sometimes our passions really do cause us to look past reality and risk.

​@nancymcmonarch I am guessing she also did it for social media clout. When the husband said "we had this vision of the birthing pool in the middle of the living room with the Christmas tree and stockings in the background" I already knew she did it for the cute social media post, but I think your comment is also part of it. She didn't want to tell others how to do something she herself had never done

@@trunkb73625 Sadly, you may be right. I've never watched the "mommy influencers," but when they wind up on the news for all the wrong reasons, it's pretty obvious that there are people out there getting entirely too wrapped up in their social media "careers," sometimes to their children's detriment.

Yea I really hate to victim blame, but she had the education to know what an extreme risk she was taking. The midwife should also be held accountable for taking on a homebirth client with her history. In all honesty the only party without blame here IMO is the father- he may not have known the true risk his wife was undertaking if he has no medical background. Although I don’t agree with it, most husbands/ non-birthing partners only learn about birth from what their partners tell them. If his wife or the midwife did not emphasize the risk of having a TOLAC homebirth, then he may not have known, and for that my heart breaks.

Seeing two complicated births doesn't represent all homebirths. I have had four uncomplicated vaginal births. Some so quick that not even an ambulance made it. Homebirths works for plenty but not all. This is where common sense and wisdom come in.

I'm from California and many of the people I knew growing up did flock to Arizona. One entire family aunts uncles and all moved there. They weren't the smartest of people... and I do feel for the locals of whatever community they moved into.

He was probably respecting his wife's decision, and given that she was an ER nurse, and it was her body, that's not entirely unreasonable.

​@nancymcmonarch No, it absolutely was unreasonable. It doesn't matter your credentials, you have to verify the credentials and good standing of the professional you're hiring. SMH.

Pretty sure she hid them…that was the issue. You don’t typically look up businesses with tons of great ratings…

but i agree, that IS smart though hindsight is 20/20…I have never heard of anyone investigating their midwife tho? And even many OBs have shady history of negligence. All I’m saying is, if you want something covered up, you can…

@@nancymcmonarchHe took a backseat to his child’s wellbeing for whatever reason. Im not a weak woman, so i was fine having c sections knowing they were crucial for my child’s survival, but if i hadn’t, my husband would’ve been adamant about me making a rational decision. This husband encouraged her nonsense wishes of a home birth VBAC as a high risk pregnancy, and it cost him.

She was also preparing to start her own business as a midwife and lactation consultant.

Depeche mode, hell yeah!

“Trusted” 🤣

I heard of Hosipital Staff abusing patients but okay. (Not that all of them are bad, but still) There is not a 100 percent chance that you will be safe just because you are at a hospital.

Trusted... 😂😂😂 We do trust them but that doesn't mean they deserve the trust. This lady was an ER NURSE... Yet didn't have the sense to do what's best for the birth of her child. I think she's a PERFECT example of why we shouldn't trust these professionals so easily... JS 🤷‍♀️

And now their kids don’t have a mother, forever.

I knew a expectant mother that wanted vbac - I told her husband and dad to call 911 if they were concerned about anything - the mother was taken to hospital and at that point begged for epidural but it was almost time for baby to be born . It all worked out - they were fine . But what a day ! She was always a little disturbed that her husband and dad called 911 but also said how grateful she was . She didn’t have the c section as baby was born quickly once she got to hospital but so risky ! Another relative had her baby in hospital and started hemorrhaging on the delivery table after her baby was delivered and the docs saved her of course . I don’t know the details - but wow - this case sounds so risky - midwife living so far and the couple just remained at the house and didn’t call the ambulance?

​@@sunnyday7843, I hemorrhaged too. Being in a Hospital saved my life.

@@tub1960 these people lack all wisdom it seems :((

The Hospital is the only place to give birth, for many reasons, but mostly because they have all the knowledge and equipment available if something goes wrong. It’s all about safety for Mama and Baby. I was an Anaesthetic Nurse for some years and saw it all.

@babayaga489 the hospital isn't the only place to give birth. Women should have the choice.

Yep I have 3 kids all my babies are born in hospital . I am no way choosing home birth .

@@babayaga489Hospital is for emergencies or is the place low risk people go with interventions that cause complications as well as trauma.

@@princessgumbo yeah and look what happens when you have your choice she died but at least she had her choice

No! My first birth in the hospital they almost k*lled me and my baby! They t*rtured us for more than 20 hours! Oxytocin stimulations caused emergency c section. They all blamed me. 2 other births i gave birth with a midwife naturally. Hospitals dont know how to help you give birth. They only pump you with meds n then cut you open. Botched! Traumatised. Assaulted mothers!

Most people don’t even know that the hospitals decide whether or not a VBAC can even happen, not the doctors. A home birth is WILD for a VBAC!

Maybe this was the only midwife who was willing to take her on as a patient seeing the risk involved with a previous C-section.

@steelwing154 exactly what I was thinking.. no one wanted that liability.

Sometimes people only hear what they want to hear.

Exactly!

Jordan was preparing to start her own business as a midwife and lactation consultant. Mom and midwife both knew the the risks of this birth.

This happened to a friend of mine, attempt VBAC, in a hospital setting, just feet from an operating room. Hers was the only life that could be saved after the rupture. 😞

Wow I'm so glad you're ok and got to the hospital. 🙏

@@woodfairy7051 I'm so sorry for you and your friend, that's awful that even in the hospital that was the outcome 😢

Wow that's so scary

@@angelbrown5895 completely ended my desire to have more kids. Well not the desire, I really want one more child, but I don't want to risk it 😕

Obviously not the brightest girl

Some of us have experienced this not to be true....... There is Definetly a time and place for hospitals but after multiple horrible experience s I get why some try to get away from them.

At one time there were no options. Elders gave birth at home because professional services were unavailable and infant mortality was higher. Always trying to improve.

Mind your business. I had my youngest at home competely medically unassisted. She's 17 now.

Exactly

@@mktay2067 it does depend on the hospital and the people working there that day, but generally speaking, the data shows hospital births are much safer than at home births especially for those who are high-risk