Oh my! We LOVE giving recommendations! BTS doesn't really have a specific genre, so the music styles will be varied. I will agree with @emi for On Kinetic Manifesto and Black Swan. I will add Singularity, Blood Sweat & Tears, and Fake Love. Just enjoy the fabulous MVs, the good music and dancing, and don't worry about the BU if you don't want to get too far into the rabbit hole!
Hi Lauren, so nice to meet you! Honestly this request is kind of hard because even tho BTS are usually tagged as k-pop, they have music in almost every main genre (and they mix up styles too), so it depends on what you personally like to start getting into them. Gotta recommend you a few of them in some genres (notice some have MV and others don't, but you can watch cool performances of them instead, the ones with MVs are marked with a *): Pop: Boy With Luv*, Spring Day*, HOME, Dimple. Hip-Hop: Mic Drop*, Tear, the Cyphers (which are four, named according to the number). Ballad-type: The Truth Untold. EDM: DNA*, Best of Me, Outro: Wings. Here I put only group songs or songs in subunits, because each member has also solo songs or discography, which you can explore later.
ON Kinetic Manifesto Come Prima, Mic Drop Steve Aoki remix, Black Swan (haven't watched the mv yet I'm saving it lol, but it was amazing at their recent concert if you want to watch that footage but i guess the mv you can turn on the closed captions for lyrics the meaning is important), I like the SNL live performance of Boy With Luv, i love the choreography in Dope, Blood Sweat and Tears is Leo DiCaprio's favorite, I'm also saving that mv to watch for the first time
It would be nice if you were correct that after Dynamite Grammy snub (which it was, clearly BTS deserved best duo/group over two people that just joined together for one song that was less achieved), wish you were correct that it would be hard to further deny BTS. but whether or not BTS is grateful and gracious about their repeat nomination for Best Group, many of us, including hugh McIntyre of Forbes, consider them to have been snubbed again especially since Grammy included ten slots. When nominations were announced in two of the categories they were snubbed in, record if the year and song of the year, one of those had only 8 nominees with two slots available. And they added two additional a few days later, not BTS. Grammy's history of rewarding commercial success wasn't followed with BTS's Butter which broke so many records and global top sales , but no nominations for Record and Song of the Year, only Best Group nomination which was beyond a no brainer
the members actually did know about taehyung as he’d been training with them and going to school with them but he was just hidden from everyone outside of the company
You're no longer a "baby Army". There are many routes to becoming a full-fledged Army, and reading Demian is one of those routes. Listening to every album will come with time, but you've already proven yourself worthy! Tell Lauren that she doesn't have to follow the BU, she can just enjoy the MVs for what they are... very artistic MVs, where odd things happen sometime. lol. The BU is not for everybody, but she is aware of it, and that is enough.
I say you're no longer a baby army when you understand every video BTSxARMY put out even without context because you know all the inside jokes. For me it's was going through all their mvs watch all the Run episodes, Bon voyage, In the Soop. The boys were always authentic from the start so having themselves on camera is easy for them.
According to suga, you officially become an army the day you find them….so I think you’re the only one who knows if you’re an army or not yet. Have you found bts? I love your reactions 💜
It was great! I like your reactions...They are so sincere! And your wife is lovely 😊 I'v been watching all of your BTS reactions for 3 days straight now- kind of got pulled into a rabbit hole 😂
I have to say well done! Excellent reaction video. I must admit, in general I do not enjoy other BTS reaction videos. They tend to have a user vibe and don't add to my life and joy. I agree with your lovely bride... I witness your sincerity in regards to BTS 7. I love that your wife is involved. I witness that her inclusion with your work only enhances your marriage and family. As I read the comments below, I am impressed by the longest, most intelligent, kind, deepest and richest comments I have witessed since I started my BTS 7 journey in August 2021. They each have enriched me personally. I have no doubt this is a reflection of your own intelligent, kind, deep and rich aspects of your beautiful self.
All the members of BTS were officially concluded by 2012. This gave them 1 full year to interact with potential fans by posting music, covers, vlogs, etc, in an effort to have financial support as soon as they debuted. This was a crucial and effective strategy Bang PD came up with, especially because Big Hit didn’t have the funds to waste.
The girl says that she can't get into BTS because its "overwhelming" which in other words means that she is simply not interested. When I first got into BTS, I was just like the guy in this video, I would take my time to learn about the boys. When you love something you do not feel overwhelmed by it, you simply take time to learn about it and it is exciting (for me it was anyway), in other words, its truly a matter of interest, and the girl is simply not interested to learn more about the boys, which is fine, nothing wrong with it, not everyone has the same interest 🤗
Traditionally, a "boy band" is created by a manager that is looking for a specific look or style, and singing ability. Historically, a "band" is one where the leader or members choose members for their talents and musical abilities that may include singing or playing an instrument (The Beatles, The Police, Nirvana, etc, etc, etc,). The interesting thing about BTS is that they started out as a "boy band" but went on to completely break the mold, partly because of their interesting relationship with Bang PD.
Welcome Lauren. Please don't be intimidated by the huge backlog and content of BTS. It is such a joy to explore the content once you start. I definitely recommend to get to know their personalities as it helps you recognise them more. Run BTS is hilarious, a joy to watch and helps with that. For me personally I think you graduate from Baby ARMY when you get the inside jokes and a good and enjoyable check is to watch Cameron Philip (sorry to promote another RU-vidr) If BTS was dubbed series. If you get that you have graduated!
I'm very thankful for all your reaction videos I really enjoy and understand all about the seven boys I love very much thanks again and keep up the good work your I e if the best reactor. Stay safe and healthy God bless to you and family ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
"jesus, how good looking do you have to be for people to walk up to you and offer you jobs?" lmao you should react to TXT....those boys literally were pursued after with so much patience it felt like bighit was auditioning for them instead XD
Still in the process of catching up so just getting to this now, but needed to say it's totally understandable Lauren being overwhelmed by BTS' content heck I found them in 2014 (with Danger) and till this day I still get overwhelmed when I try to catch up with videos admittedly, however you shouldn't fear knowing them for it. I'd like to think we're long past the point there were MANY expectations to be ARMY, all thats really needed is love for the boys and their music, don't let anyone scare you off claiming you need to know all sorts else. In the words of our great leader Joonie : Do you. x')
Don't have to dive deep into everything at once; you can do it slowly, little by little, or simply choosing one or two things to enjoy about BTS. Their stuffs are so massive, sometimes it's truly overwhelming, even for many veteran ARMYs, but they do it this way simply just to give us more varieties stuffs to enjoy. There's no obligatory to cracking every code they throw. But yes, it's just ARMY's stuffs (and not every single of us has to do it too). I personally don't really interact with BU; I used to, but I choose to focus on the Music & the Members (and it's already a lot for me to digest in :D) That's the basic, the Music & the Members. You're not exactly an ARMY if you don't care abt the messages they try to convey through their Music. And if you don't care abt the Members, well, you won't get the messages since it's interconnected with the members' life & personalities... Btw, Lauren seems a bitoverwhelmed, but it's okay! Takes it slowly, what matters is you're honest with ur interest & opinions ;)
I’m a few days late on this video, and sorry, I don’t know what all you’ve watched on Patreon, but just my two cents on being Baby ARMY vs ARMY: I’ve became Baby ARMY in January 2020, and I would say it took me about a year or so to fully consider myself as ARMY. And I wasn’t taking my time on content. Not a knock, but you’ve committed to reacting to videos and what not so it takes longer to get through the content. Then there’s just the fact that you’re an adult with responsibilities and a child (I can relate). Beyond the content, having an encompassing understanding of both the history of what BTS have gone through AND what ARMYs have gone through to support BTS. A lot of that I didn’t learn until I was on Twitter and learned a lot from the fans. Understanding the kpop industry as whole, both how it was when BTS started and how it currently is (largely due to BTS’ impact on the industry). Understanding the US industry and how incredibly manipulative and biased it is by industry executives. On a lighter note, knowing inside jokes. For example, there was a video from several years ago of behind the scenes of Jungkook teasing Jimin for a move he did in a music video, and during the SoFi concerts, ALL of the members were referencing that move. The boys never let go of inside jokes lol. Knowing a lot of the references to things is just something that kind of makes you more in tune with everything I would say. I also think a big difference between when I personally was baby ARMY vs now is that I was a little naive. People tell you about antis and media manipulation and industry bias, and I sort of thought some of it was a liiittle bit exaggerated. But I don’t think I’ve ever experienced a BTS comeback or new release without some sort of targeted attack. I know you understood after seeing the Hardships video why ARMYs get defensive. Even at their current level, they still get snide comments, articles written with ill intent, antis purposely spreading malicious rumors just to give the media cause to focus on any negative scrap they can rather than BTS’s success and all their positivity and hard work. Just go see a recent-ish article written as a cover story by Billboard magazine after Butter charted at #1 for a few weeks. For a while, and it still may be ongoing, BTS went on a streak of not sharing anything posted by billboard after that article dropped and just ignoring them. I don’t fully love this Most Beautiful Moment in Life video, because I feel like it makes it sound like BTS wasn’t charting in the US before the dropped English songs. They were, they just hadn’t gotten a Hot 100 #1 yet. They’d had a few in the top 10 already, and ON debuted at #4. The difference is that the English songs received some industry support, promo, and radio play, which are all key components to a #1 song. With Life Goes On, ARMY proved we were able to finally get a number one for a Korean song that didn’t have the same support as the English songs because the fandom has grown exponentially since the pandemic started. Now that BTS have switched their distribution deal from Columbia Records to UMG, the hope is that BTS will get more all around support regardless of if they release in English or Korean or whatever language they want. DKDKTV has a good Kpop History video, and Bby Gang has a video “Is BTS Kpop?” that I really enjoyed, if you haven’t already seen them. And I know you’re watching The Rise Of Bangtan, which is a fantastic docuseries, wish it had been around when I was first starting my journey. As for the BU I cheated and watched XCeleste’s breakdown video, among other fan made content. As an adult with a full time job and a 3 year old daughter, I don’t have time to do it all! 😅 But this at least helped me have the knowledge of what is going on so I can keep up with future content. And above and beyond everything else: listening to their discography and supporting/respecting their artistic choices! Shocking I know 😂 I’m sorry for the longwindedness of my above essay! But I would say you are well on your way to become full fledged ARMY. There’s really not a specific finish line you cross to get here, but I would say it probably takes at least a year at a minimum. I look forward to seeing your continuing journey! 💜
You're not baby ARMY. I feel like I've seen you talk so passionately about BTS, you've watched A lot of the content and the truth is you'd always keep getting surprised by new content you discover. I'd say you're teenager ARMY, lol. I'm always so happy to see new fandom members because it's so scared and surreal to me.
I’m sure it’s been said but the other members knew about Tae, he was with them the entire time. Also Big Hit’s methods are very different from the Big Three. And child labor laws don’t prevent gymnasts or dancers, so they will have no issue creating s group in a similar method in the US, the challenge is the entitlement of Americans lol.
I'm sure someone else has probably commented this, but it will help the youtube algorithm right? So if memory serves, not all the BTS members are fluent in Japanese, they just learn to sing it like they do their English songs. I think for example when they sang Mic Drop on tour, they would change what language they used depending on the country they were in. So the English in it would be changed to Japanese and I've heard even other languages. It's the same for when they're on tour and give endments at the tour. They memorize some of their end comments in the language of that country. They're amazing for that. So the one thing I really dislike about this docu is what they said about Dynamite. It was not released to target the American music industry. They were just trying to cheer up fans during the pandemic. RM himself said this. They were shocked by its success. You could probably say that about Butter, but not Dynamite. I'm sure they probably hoped it would do really well since it was their first English single, but making it out to be this huge elaborate plot to take over the American music industry, I feel is off base.
About "War of Hormone", I've always think that the line "I'm 18 I know all what I need to know" gives you a signal about the tone of the lyrics. It's how a stereotypical heterosexual teenage boy sees women, but they are not saying that view is correct
V literally sat under the table near the trashcan during his trainee days while the others did their vlogs. Don't look at the hair, look at the faces and remember those. ETA: Tell your wife not to stress herself. She can just enjoy their music. :D
@@loralarson551 I gotta say, red RM & red Yoongi were hard to differentiate in 146P During PTD. It may not have been the same colour but it was close enough to make me, a 2016 ARMY, play the guessing game.
@@loralarson551 I agree but at 146p there is only so much you can distinguish plus it's fan live stream, it's shaky at best while being extra blurry and the boys are often just a "tiny blub" of pixel. I'm use to it and I'm not complaining since it allowed me to listened to the offline PTD ments. Just pointing out that even in the case of a 5 (almost 6) years old ARMY given the right circumstances, yeah mix them up sometime
Her smile as soon as you stared with “It’s a great day to play everybody” gave me everything I could ever ask. She’s so beautiful and seemed very comfortable, loved her being here with us this time!! Bring her again more times!! 🤍✨
You definitely don't NEED to delve into every aspect of BTS content to be a fan. Just listen to a BTS focused Spotify playlist and enjoy the music. Follow your own path of discovery and listen to what you like. And the term "Baby ARMY" is more a term of endearment from us... as in YEAH you are NEW TO BTS! WELCOME and let us feed you content. :)
I understand it's intimidating to get into them. But honestly, most of us ARMYs didn't start thinking we would watch all of their content. I just casually listened to their songs and watched their videos for a while, until there was that spark that made me honestly want to explore deeper. And I'm definitely not caught up. I was hoping I would be able to get through a bit more now that BTS are on vacation, but then it turned out that they only meant that this was a vacation for them, not for the ARMY, so we've been almost busier in the last few days than when BTS are working 😂. Anyway, I just meant to say, that you shouldn't put too much pressure on yourself, thinking you have to know everything about them to be a fan. There are casual listeners and casual fans of them (though not actually that many, because they do tend to turn casual listeners into ARMY 😂). As far as the "boyband" think goes, yes. There are negative connotations in culture when it comes to that word. That's why ARMY is not fond of people calling them that. Not because it's not technically true, but because if you describe them to someone as a "boyband", there's a high chance that person is then gonna make a lot of assumptions about BTS in their mind and maybe deciding not giving them a chance, because they'll assume it's not gonna be their style. The same thing goes for the "kpop" label (well aside from the fact that we were kinda kicked out of the kpop community by the fans of other groups a few years ago 😂 - it was a by-product of another attempt to bring BTS down). Like, just look at the amount of people who are shocked that BTS rap. That's basically why we don't like the "boyband" label much. A lot of the times it's used as a derogatory term, especially in the media (which is another story of it's own, let's not go there).
I get annoyed with the Nsync Backstreet Boys comparison bc their choreography was Mickey Mouse compared to BTS, they didn't rap let alone while dancing, and only BTS is another Beatles global phenomenon but with remarkably none of the ego or arrogance that accompanies that level of success
I started by listening to the music, and then all of a sudden I realised I’d listened to every song. I moved on to compilations and loved their personalities which led me to run BTS. THEN I joined army twt, a fully fledged army
just wanna leave here that Dynamite WASN'T an evil plan of domination lol they've said multiple times that when they heard the song they all agreed that it just sounded better in eng so they left it like that + they wanted to reach with positivity to as many people as possible bc it was half a year since pandemic started and we all remember how hard these times were with all new adjustments and sacrifices we had to do. number 1 at hot100 wasn't expected by them, they were so surprised and excited and couldn't believe their eyes. some of them slept through the chart weekly announcement bc they didn't think it was something to anticipate. i don't disregard that it was really a smart move and the company most likely saw where this is going, BUT esp with this movie reference it sounds like bts released dynamite with a hidden intent that was meticulously planed lol. they've also said a lot of times that dynamite wasn't in a schedule at all, if not the pandemic, they would have been touring that august, but the world was closed off and ofc they had a need to promote to reach out to armys at least this way, so they did dynamite bc it's a happy song for the dark times :)
Exactly. It was meant to cheer people. This narrator sounds like a car salesman. I dont care much for this video as an introduction, but still better than that Idaa one.
Not to mention BTS were supposed to be on a world tour in 2020 for Map of the Soul: 7. But because of the pandemic the whole tour was cancelled. BTS has said had the pandemic not happened Dynamite probably wouldn't have happened.
Dynamite was feel good be happy. They did admit Butter was that but also their hope of winning the Grammy this year. I think Permission to dance came back to the Dynamite reasons. So it was a bit of both. That isn’t wrong. They are artists and a Grammy probably means more to them to bring home to Korea then even for themselves. For RM, Suga and probably JHope it is validation of their years of hard work. Since they have written and produced since the beginning. That of course is not discounting everyone else’s efforts.
@@maykacha4987 Butter was not for Grammy's. Some reporter asked them during the conference if they wanted a Grammy for Butter. RM didn't know how to answer that question. Saying no was stupid. They wanted a Grammy. But saying it was for the Grammys was also hubris and not why they made the song but they didn't want to say no either. Suga didn't have that problem and simply said yes. He didn't care which song he got the Grammy for he just wanted to have one and both answers were "wrong". The question was stupid and maybe a trap. It literary had no "right" answer.
V was never hidden from the other members...he had been training with them all along, he was just a surprise to the public. They were releasing music before debut....cover songs etc on SoundCloud. I think the main reason that ARMY dislikes the "boy band" label is because boy bands aren't generally involved in the writing/producing elements of their careers like BTS is. They are handed music and told how to perform it. That's not to say they aren't talented, they just don't have the involvement in their careers that BTS do. BTS were given artistic freedom to write about things that were relevant to them and their generation. I understand your wife's point about the volume of their content being intimidating, but like you said, it can be enjoyed at a multitude of levels. You can just enjoy the music or you can take a deep dive. Being a "deep dive" person myself, I am hesitant to jump into any other groups because BTS keeps me busy! The presale for the LA tickets happened because those who had tickets to the previously cancelled tour (due to Covid) got first dibs. I laughed when your wife said "they're almost caught up, how much more can there be?" because BTS never fails to keep us fed. It can seem like too much maybe to a new fan, but you get as involved as you choose in the fandom and content. I don't think you would be baby ARMY by any stretch. Baby ARMY isn't a negative connotation....it just means you are lucky enough to still get to enjoy some stuff for the first time. I enjoyed hearing your wife's perspective. Thanks for another great reaction.
To this day I still can’t re-watch AHL especially the 1st episode. Poor baby Jungkook. It brought me to tears when he said he just wanted to see his family and say goodbye to his mom because he thought he was going to die. My mom instinct kicked in and just wanted to protect the boys at all cost. My son is the same age as Jin. Today is his birthday. DOB: 12/12/92.
Don't stress her out! 😂 Just enjoy the videos and also watch RunBTS episodes to get to know their personalities and then you can decide how deep to dive. 💜
My personal opinion... I think Pink is probably one of the few American artists that isn't afraid to champion the underdog with her music and outside of it, to show us her life, and to stand behind what she says. She also always sings live and does incredible stunts/acrobatics during her live shows. :)
Please don’t consider BABY ARMY as derogatory. It’s a sweet term to call new fans who are beginning to learn about BTS. We just love it that you are interested. 🤗
BTS share a lot about their feelings, their ideas, their hobbies, their struggles, their mental health... But, they're very private about family and their personal relationships. That remains private. So, they do stablish boundaries. They also take social media breaks when they want, although since they're seven people, each member handles this differently.
Awww hun, its not just knowledge based, the most important thing about becoming an ARMY is that you just love them. You watched them grow, and are watching them grow now in real time, you understand and its just catch up now, and you get entertained along the way. You talk about them, pour over their content, involve your friend and wife. Hun...You are ARMY xoxo
V was there for 2 years, the members knew he was part of the group. RM says he knew he was mischievous the day he showed up, and V went to his high school graduation. Jimin and V went to high school together before debut. I like you're doing your best to try to describe cultural differences and the history. Good job, keep going!
The real reason Bighit didn't reveal V, according to a recent interview with Bang Si-hyuk, was that they didn't want other companies to try to poach him. I am not sure, but I think the other companies might have tried to lure JK away.
You're no baby Army. Being in an Army is knowing it in your heart. Your love for the boys and how their influence can help you and you helping others around you. How you contribute yourself to the group, the fandom, their movement and showing yourself as a good example of their mission statement. Time has nothing to do with anything and there is no such thing as graduating. Some Armys can have been there from the beginning and some can be fairly new, say 1, 2 years but it just means how dedicated you are as a fan. What counts is how much we all know how you love the boys! Glad your on board and love your reactions, keep up the good work!
The members knew about V. Having a surprise member was a marketing tactic. Just a little extra to stand out among the many other groups that would debut that year.
I’ve heard many ways people say you would “graduate” from being baby army. From experiencing your first comeback to going to your first concert(the latter I would say is unfair) but I think it’s really up to you. For me it was when I went back and knew I’ve heard every song in their main discography because I took my time doing so and really dove into it and researched a bunch which took me about a year. That won’t work tho for someone who binged the entire discography in a weekend. But of course there will always be something new to learn with this group that as someone who’s been army for 2.5 years at this point I always love discovering some obscure fact about them. I think you are the one who decides when you stop being baby army. It’s when you feel like you’ve established yourself and feel confident enough to say that you are no longer baby army.
Tae was Just in Hawaii and thanked Army who pretened to Not know him in Public so He could enjoy His vacation, so even If they are celebritys the fandom is trying to give Thema a normal vacation
Hi Lauren, 🙋🏾♀️ V had been a designated member early on. Bang PD mentioned that he didn't want him to be poached by other groups. Here's my theory, V was poor from a farming community and he's mentioned going to the big city was a big deal. I think he would have easily been swayed by nefarious companies preying on his sheer innocence. He was about 16 yr old. Additionally his lower registered baritone was very unique in idol music and he would be a great asset for harmonies to any team. I believe they wanted to make sure he didn't get swayed. Let's not ignore his looks, 😍 I think he looked younger than JK at the start but they are were still growing and they knew a hottie in the making.
There may be something there, but, from what Bang PD said: it was a marketing strategy, to announce "there's a secret member", so more people would get curious and be attentive to check their debut. Edit: I've heard confirmations of this by pre-debut ARMYs too. People were super excited to get to see this mysterious 7 member.
@@lobaetoile8440 Yep that too, I don't want to forget the marketing genius of Bang PD, but, I've worked in entertainment so it's my theory and as theory goes it's nothing but a speculation not a rumor.
Something to think about is that the recruitment process took years This video made it seem like it’s in chronological order but it’s not really. For example, when Hobi was thinking about leaving the company JK was already part of the team. JK cried and begged him to stay but this video didn’t mention that because it hadn’t introduced JK yet. When they started to do logs and open their twitter account it was near the end of 2012 or early 2013. They’ve been training and recruiting for a long time before they introduced themselves to the public. People came and went but we only talk about the ones who actually stayed as members. Also the members definitely DID know about Tae. It’s just that the public didn’t know.
I get your point about JK but I think this is one of the best origin stories out there. I didnt mind him saying jhope wanted to leave before him mentioning jk because the segment wasn't about jk. RM wanted to quit as well I think maybe they all felt that way at first. Also I like how this guy put them in order of joining because many origin series have them mix up. Im also glad he updated this as well. Anyway not trying disrespect your opinion I full understand your JK comment , I just wanted to say this particular origin story is one of the best out there.
@@teresanike7181 I agree it’s one of the better ones but it could be better. I only bring up the JK story because it’s an example of how this video might mislead some new army to think that it all happened this way chronologically when it was a bit more complex than that. I do like how they go in order of joining as well.
I'm not the one to tell you when you will stop being a baby army but for me is when I had followed/viewed the BU, listened to all their album (including all the solo work) and understanding the inside jokes. That was for me to feel like I belonged to ARMY.
I believe u. I watched several bloggers talking about BTS with less knowledge and research... like just doing it to gain views . Since when we see the word BTS we will watch it. Baby ARMY.. he is. If BTS did not become world famous he will not react with this video. I cannot believe what A real ARMY is. He has to be a member, take an exam , watch countless concerts , buy records, follow them defend them.... etc. i saw the ARMYs in LA recently and i cannot described the support and love they gave to BTS... I followed them since 2016 And this man is right he needs more research. Youre right an army like u will tell him when he will graduate...
@@ethelbocalig5120 An ARMY like me? I think you misunderstood my reply. I meant for me to not feel like a baby ARMY anymore I needed to do all those things. I've also started getting to know BTS in 2016, right after Young Forever. It took my a while to listened too all their SoundCloud songs and RM's solo work (at that point) and, frankly, even now 5 years later I still feel like a baby ARMY sometimes. Honestly, I think you're always baby ARMY because there is so much to learn about them that they have yet to say or express (with good reasons - they have the right to their privacy). Each time they come out with new stuff it's like discovering them all over again because they redefine themselves every comeback.
I think going through your first full comeback counts as graduating as a full army. There is no experience like living through the hype and excitement of a comeback and everything that comes with it.
Lol I will have to agree, I am about to experience this myself for the first time. I just experienced the online concerts and omg it was amazing!!! I hope I can buy the new album coming out in 2022!!!!
Also it bothers me that he didn't change the part about Bang PD "lying" to Yoongi. He didn't lie to him. There was a FULL hip hop group planned at first. Yoongi, RM and Hobi were part of it with Supreme Boi (who became a producer) and 2-3 others. Bang PD decided instead to make an Idol group. With an Idol group they have to dance so the other rappers left, Supreme Boi became a producer and Yoongi was going to follow but Bang PD convinced him to stay with the group. So he never lied to him, the facts changed when the group style changed and he talked Yoongi into it. The members did know about Tae from the beginning. In fact Jin used to make lunch for him and he went to school with Jimin. Only we (the fans) didn't know, he was off to the side in many of the vlogs especially the group ones. Tell Lauren, just hopping around the music is fine. She doesn't need to immerse herself in the world.
With regards to their sold out SoFi concert, the presale was for those of us who had tickets to the MOTS7 tour that was cancelled due to covid. We got 1st chance to buy tickets since we had them before and couldn't go. There was also a presale for official fan club type thing, but idk too much about that. The way the tickets were sold for PTD in LA was frustrating, ticketmaster made it a nightmare. We were lucky to get tickets even with the presale. As we clicked on empty seats they were selling out. Very high stress! We couldn't all sit together either, and this was presale! Craziness 💜
I don't think you'd be considered Baby ARMY anymore. More like a toddler 😂. You know their names, a huge chunk of their stuff, you're already doing BU and most importantly, you understand their journey and their personalities and the reason they're so big. I'd say you have graduated 😂. Graduating from a baby doesn't mean you know everything. But even if you still want more time, I think you can safely have an official graduation once you go through your first full comeback (meaning full album release). The next one is gonna start a whole new era too, so it's probably gonna be huge.
Before they actually debut they can release covers, vlogs, dance practices. So some people are actually following their journey in real time from the very beginning. We can really see it in the Rise of Bangtan series episode 1. But in the case of BTS in particular, RM and Suga were already well known in the underground rap industry. The difference between hip hop groups and kpop groups is the music first of all, aesthetics, how they present themselves, and what is expected of them, AND kpop group dance. Although BTS (and some other kpop groups) do many different genres and are pretty versatile. And also all the members knew V was in BTS, they were all living in the same dorm. The last member to join was Jimin as he said. When they were filming vlogs he was in the same room.
So wonderful that your wife stands by your passion and understands BTS as we all do and support them like we do too. Kudos and love both of you and of course Lucas.
I'm so glad that your wife watched this update with you. It is one of the best videos out there. And, even of she doesn't become a BTS fan, @ least she can better understand why you are a fan.
I can relate, Lauren. BTS have so much contents that it’ can be overwhelming. I wish I have more time to explore them but between working full time and part time jobs, taking care of kids and 2 dogs and being married, 3-5 hrs a day BTS related is not enough.
Aww, you wife has a beautiful smile! Just remember that you both can take it slow and listen or learn whatever interests you at that time, no need to dive head first into BTS. Thank you both for this reaction!💜 Of course I know GidKidDAD is an ARMY, but I hope both of you know that neither of you have to learn anything if you don't feel like it. And there's no rush either. Edit: Just so you know if you watch another live stream concert, you can put subtitles on, but the subs are just for when the guys talk to the audience. And they might be a bit delayed or incomplete. I believe only the BigHit staff and the other BTS members knew about V, it was a surprise for the fans and the media though.
I sound like her 6 months ago. Hehe but I bet you, if you stay open minded and dig in a little further (just take 1 step at a time. the greatest thing about army is they allow you to admire bts the way that works for you, no pressure), you're going to be a fan in no time. 😅
The members knew about V, he trained, went to school, lived with them etc. Great reaction but the video isn't my favourite and the presentation is a bit cringe making ("Mars after the US" is just one example 😂). Nice to meet your wife and always a delight to watch lovely BTS though! Don't worry about understanding everything like lyrics, BU etc, just go with the flow and enjoy them 😊
Why do ppl shit on ppl who compare them to other boybands? They are literally a boyband. Sure, they are better in every other aspect but they are still a boyband. If ppl find it insulting, do note that those boybands paved the way for other boybands to be created. And we are going back as far as NKOTB as templates for modern kpop bands.
Army is a little too sensitive(among many other things) and delusional about the boyband thing. RM literaly calls themselves that in every single interview in English. And if you only listened to their English stuff they are a straight bubblegum pop boyband so no reason to feel bad. People get way too overzealous with labels in kpop. There's nothing really too defined with kpop considering it's more of an industry rather than a genre.
Also, I've been a (VERY ACTIVE!) ARMY for two plus years and I'm STILL finding new songs and covers from them every month or so and I gave up on Run BTS around episode 50 and decided I'll get through them when they get drafted. The amount of content is vast and they keep dropping new stuff every day. It's a full time job to just stay up to date so I understand the way how it might be intimidating. Still worth diving at your own pace tho!
I’d love to see her reaction to some of BTS’ songs. She seems to be more like me so some of the symbolism laden MVs like Blood, Sweat, and Tears might not be the best. A live performance or dance practice instead of the MV has helped me appreciate their artistry because I’m not overwhelmed with visuals that confuse me.
I don’t think any ARMY ever feels like they know EVERYTHING. I am ARMY I’m a big fan. Die hard??? My friends would say yes, BUT I would disagree compare to a lot of other ARMY. You don’t need to know everything. You listen to BTS. You enjoy BTS. You are ARMY. The End Btw your wife is awesome. 💜 her realness.
so, i don't think you are baby army anymore! i think baby army are those who struggle with the names and dont know bts struggles & co yet. your wive wis baby army and as you know we love baby army! it's totally fine to be baby army. we ALL went through it so i dont think anyone looks down on baby army. i hope she feels less intimated and just enjoy what she enjoys 🥰 i feel like you are a teenage army now XD but for an adult army.... sorry~ graduation is = all albums+ SoundCloud, DVDs (like burn the stage&co), Run , Bon Voyage, Soop ... basically, when you run OUT of old content and are HUNGRY for new content XD
To not be a baby army 1. Have a realistic mindset (no obsessive "omg he's mine" type deal) 2. If someone tells you something about a member, can you tell if it true or not. If not, are you able to do research and find out. Only fact is if it came directly from BTS members or Big Hit management. 3. Do you support the messages values and importance of what they talk about? Such as self love, being respectful of others and so much more. 4. MOST IMPORTANT- do you respect all the members and all their contributions within the team? Having a bias is fine. That's just a cherry on top of a very very good sundae. I don't see comebacks, knowing all the lyrics, all the fanchants and knowing all the nuances of BU as being full fledged army. It's more a mindset.
I wont to say you are no longer baby ARMY but there is so much you don't know about current day BTS info. I don't know if it is because you are a RU-vidr and you are trying to begin at the beginning but that does't keep up with BTS's current status. They have been nominated to the 2022 Grammy.awards for Pop Duo/Group Performance as of November 2021 and you did not know that they won Artist of the Year at this year's AMA awards which is absolutely amazing for them and for k-pop. You may have interest in them but your wife's facial expressions show she doesn't have much interest. That's fine also and anyway you look at it thank you for watching and bringing them to the attention to people that don't know BTS. Borahae!!
All BTS members and the Big Hit staff knew about Taehyung {V }, it was kept secret from the public only and V actually did Vlogs, they were not released until after BTS debuted.
Baby ARMY status is definitely based on how much knowledge you have of BTS and ARMY 😂😂 It might take you a few months or a few years but everyone eventually graduates out and becomes a full blown ARMY. No shame in it, just helps in terms of fandom communication bc then they can reach out and ask questions and stuff.
I think that you are not Baby Army. You have demonstrated Army characteristics; respect for BTS music and performances. I don’t think knowing every detail makes an Army but rather not being ashamed to say you are a BTS fan. I have been enjoying your channel.
They did a Pre-sale for their recent LA concert bc they had to refund a lot of ppl when they canceled BTS’ previous tour (due to COVID) Idk if BTS came up with the idea or if it was just Ticketmaster honoring the ppl who had successfully purchased tickets for the last tour but that’s why there was such a huge “pre-sale”
I think who cares BABY army or not when you love the music your army fullstop. That is just other people judging... remeber to love yourself and what you like how you want it. I never seen one thing about the BU but no one can tell me I am no army ;) ... that is my decision and I don´t think the boys would judge me for that so you are army when YOU decide to be one...
A few thoughts... That turned out to be really long, sorry! I've noticed that over in Korea, the entertainment companies sometimes pull these types of unfun pranks on newer celebrities to help promote them. The public gets to see their honest(read terrified and/or crying) reactions in bad and stressful situations and the public tends to praise them for how well they handled it and how they were good sports and laughed it off after. Yeeeeaaah, I just end up feeling really bad for them. I find it so upsetting. GidKidMOM, come join ARMY! We have Kookie!😆 You don't have to do the BU or all the content if you're not interested. Enjoy the music, maybe check out some MVs/dance practices/live performances and support the guys. Fun times all around! A couple of other things... 1) Before all this, some groups from the Big3 companies have made some splashes in the American music scene and held concerts over here in North America and there've been some collabs with big name Western artists, but none of them blew up and stuck like BTS did where even a lot of the general public have heard of them. Aside from being super awesome, BTS also had some luck in timing. In the age of social media, ARMY from all over the world helped make so much noise that it made BTS impossible to ignore in the Western mainstream. There's a Global(excl. US) chart because like BTS, there are non-US acts that have been huge in a lot of other parts of the world, but just not so much in the US. 2) I feel like a few of the statements made in the doc should be clarified or added to. BTS isn't unique in having rap mixed in with other genres. Kpop groups tend to have vocalists and rappers. Kpop isn't a genre(though there does tend to be a sort of kpop sound) so, mixing music genres also sometimes happens with other groups(i just think BTS does it better... They're my ult group). And lastly, boy bands (aka. groups of boys) havn't been mostly extinct... Just over here. In kpop and probably other music scenes, there's always been boy groups and girl groups.
they trained around 30 trainees together for bts group. in which at the end only 7 were selected to be part of group. and members knew about taehyung but he was hidden from public unlike other members . there is a rumor that it was done because taehyung was good looking even at young age , so if it came out then other companies would try to snatch him away from bighit . which is a thing in industry , so he was hidden from public until there debut.
I feel like you graduate when you’ve gone through the main content and most importantly live through a real time comeback with the music video and album drop countdown and live shows etc ie the start of a new era
