Billy the Kid's grave is still in Fort Sumner. It has a strong and high fence around it. The Lincoln County Courthouse, where Billy escaped from has been kept "as is" and can be seen in Lincoln New Mexico. Smokey the Bear, a bear cub found (in the 1950's) after a forest fire near Lincoln, has a museum in nearby Capitan. With that said, if you drive south out of Albuquerque, you will need to turn east on 380 in San Antonio New Mexico. Lincoln and Capitan are on this highway. You will also pass through White Sands Missile Range. Forget Area 51, this is where the real activity is. You can pull off of the road and watch the night sky for, let's say, unexplained things. Finally, Roswell, with it's UFO museum, is at the east end of 380.
Also when he shot Bell on the stairwell of the courthouse, the bullet holes are still in the wall. They're covered with plexiglass. I have a picture standing next to them as well as a picture of his grave and the metal cage protecting it. The gravestone says "PALS". You can also go up in the courthouse where they were holding him. For Billy the kid fans and history buffs alike its an amazing place to see.
Billy the Kid story has a lot of stuff left out here. He wasn't just some bad egg who randomly turned to crime. How about the rancher that took him in? The Lincoln County War? The Fued? Territorial governor offering him a pardon to testify in court and then leaving him for dead? Lots of key components in the young man's story.
Agreed, he wasn't just some criminal. He was a kid that was abandoned at 15 and fighting for survival in a town where the law was corrupt and on the houses payroll. If they had never murdered John Tunstall I genuinely believe Billy the Kid would still be working there making an honest living. They murdered the only man that was ever good to him and he sought justice for that. He fought against corruption and ended up forced to live as an outlaw. His story is pretty sad
its interesting how bill was supposedly killed in a dark room ,,yet so much detail remains of the event ,,they dont even have proof of the event ,,just stories ,,,like jesus being born of a virgin ,no way of proving either one ,,,but sure makes for an interesting story,,,lol
@@WxrrenTV if they would have pardoned him, like they did just about everyone else in the Lincoln Range War, he would have vanished and we wouldnt even know his name.
From my Grandparents having been born within 3 years either way of 1900, they were told by THEIR Parents and Grandparents the truths of some relations living out as far as N. Mexico, Wyoming, western Kansas and western Oklahoma when the cattle herds were being driven up... When the movies started coming out, they were made for making money and were nothing like the real life that took place... Very few "documentary", "factual" movies were made... small news reel pieces were sometimes made and played prior to the main attraction, but people liked being amazed and lots of action and excitement... so average people will be attracted to a polished 5 oz chunk of silver more so than a dirty and dull 1 oz chunk of gold....... even tho the 1 oz gold is worth nearly twice what that 5 oz of silver is.... people aren't always interested in the true value of something unless they can realize that true value.... I had a street legal 1971 Vega GT that ran consistent 12s to 12,6 all day long with my best speed ever being 112 mph in the 1/4.... In the 3 years I owned her, she NEVER lost any street matches and she'd eat Corvettes and Porsches like nothing, but most people would gravitate towards my competitor's rides for their looks and what they were until they got stomped and then many of those folks were all of a sudden Vega fans....
I grew up wit these stories abt all these people as told by my grandpa and my mom ..they would have loved this but my grandpa passed before 2000 and my mom in 2009 ..thanks for the vids and memories
My g+grandfather was a friend of Wild Bill Hickok, and Crazy Horse is my distant cousin, I am Lakota, and my grandfather, who was white, could have had his own story in these videos. He is mentioned in a couple of books, he was a cattle driver, a scout for general Crook, He was a witness to the Wounded Knee Massacre (where my other g+ great grandparents were massacred) a rancher, a law man, and a store owner. I love to watch videos about this period of American history because my ancestors definitely were in it and involved. I just want to visualize what life might have looked like for them.
@@ashdavis857 Yeah… it’s absolutely true, why wouldn’t it be? I’m Cheyenne River (Minniconjou) and Oglala Lakota. You don’t think my ancestors had descendants or something? And that it’s possible that I could be one of their grandchildren? ! I don’t need to prove anything to you, but my g Grandparents were Richard Clancy Stirk, he’s the one who was a friend to Wild Bill Hickok, and Emma Garnier, they lived on Pine Ridge. Another of my g Grandfathers was Iron Eyes, brother of Chief Spotted Elk, (Uŋpȟáŋ Glešká) whose other brothers were Touch The Clouds (Maȟpíya Ičáȟtagya) and Iron Eyes and Spotted Elk’s father was Ha-wón-je-tah (Lone Horn) they were cousins and the uncle of Tȟašúŋke Witkó (Crazy Horse). My g Grandfather Iron Eyes and my Grandmother Plenty Horses Woman and my G Granduncle Chief Spotted Elk (Uŋpȟáŋ Glešká) later known as Big Foot (Si Tȟaŋka) who were all Minniconju, (Cheyenne River Lakota) were massacred at Wounded Knee on December 29, 1890. You dishonor my ancestors by dishonoring me when you suggest that my family history is not what it is. My ancestors know me and I know them.
@@ashdavis857 someone has to be kin to these people - whether he is or isn't is irrelevant - the fact of the matter is , this dude Billy was a fucking horse thief - the same yankee dime store novel and newspaper writers who made Jesse James a hero made Mr McCarty one - false narratives concocted by the media - sound familiar ?
I'm still living after nine decades because I'm a good guy even at The Korean War I was picked for propaganda radio broadcasting and also as disk jockey mobile broadcasting for United Nations at Seoul and Pusan 1951-53 !
Me remembering a western movie where a old dusty rider comes out from the dessert and a car stop where the car driver ask, who are you and the rider answer, Billy The Kid. The car driver : but you died many decades ago. Billy The Kid : yeah, you know, people like to talk a lot. 😄
It always boggles my mind how people just accept Pat Garrett's word. Both deputies said on their deathbed that their conscience had been bothering them all these years because Pat Garrett bullied them in the saying it was Billy the kid in both of them knew it was not. I mean people need to always remember that he had already shot two men thinking they were really the kid and he was wrong he shot two men that were not Billy the kid. Then he come out with a book where he made Billy the kid a saint and it was a book of fairy tales and lies. His credibility was almost zero and people just buy everything he says Hook line and sinker I would need a lot more than his word especially since his two deputies disagreed with him.
My late wife and I bought an old house in Silver City, NM in 2002. Billy did spend a number of his teen years there, and got in with a bunch of other boys who liked to run around town pranking people. The theft that was mentioned was a bunch of sheets drying on a clothesline outside a Chinese laundry. The other boys got him to stuff the laundry under his bed but he was discovered by one of his parents. He was forced to go tell the sheriff who decided to scare Billy by locking him up in the local jail He was skinny enough to be able to shinny up the chimney and escape! The history of the property is very interesting, as it had once been the town cemetery. One of the bodies was Billy's mother, Mrs. Antrim. The man who first built the house had been looking for a good plot of land to build a new house. He rode past the cemetery and had the idea of offering to relocate the bodies to a new cemetery just outside of town, in exchange for the deed to the property. The town council agreed and that's how our house came into being. This man, a NY-born former US Army Colonel, also invested in a few gold and silver mines, ran a lumber yard, and eventually was voted into office as a Territorial Legislator, and surely knew Gov. Wallace (the film didn't mention that Wallace wrote the novel "Ben Hur"!
@@ronniehenwood8580 This house is not mine to sell. My own share of the deed was long ago given up to my late wife (and her estate) , but our daughters may be in the market to sell eventually. It needs a makeover as much as possible. It is over 120 years old and has plumbing and water drainage issues
That's right. How the tides have turned! Poor Kid. Never robbed a bank or train. Just wanted a good meal to get through the day, and use to his loved ones dying every time he turned around. He is more than legend!
betcha the people who owned the horses and the cattle he stole would beg to differ - he was a horse thief - plain and simple - that shit will get a man shot in these parts - and I'm talking in present terms -
@@ronniehenwood8580 really ? you actually remember this or do you believe what has been told to you ? I didn't know the man - obviously - so I don't know what his motivation was or wasn't but a few things are known about your hero - One of these facts is that he was a common horse thief - Back then this was considered a capital offense - for good reason - most horses were not only used for transportation but they also were used to plow the land -horses were not cheap and a normal person didn't have the nohow to go and find a wild one - Where I live horse thieving is still a capital offense - and it should be everywhere - you steal a man's horse - you ain't worth suckin air - but I live in the country - Thank God -
What about the folks that lived in that time that struggled to make ends meet raise families and remained on the right side of the law I guess unless your a crook honesty has no values
Anderson Indiana. Not Indianapolis. "1868, June 18- The census in Anderson, Indiana, show the names of Catherine McCarty and her sons, William Henry and Joseph. While living in Indiana, Mrs. McCarty meets William Antrim and a relationship is formed"
@@bammanrcboats3872 that's cool for a Beach Boys song. Just kidding. It's a good place to be from. I'm from Anderson but it's been many moons since I called it home.
Actually Pat Garret didnt shoot billy the kid....He shot a man in the dark ...The guy he shot had a full beard and billy the kid didnt have but fuzz...Even the deputy said and it was recorded as such
Significant Evidence including modern facial recognition technology indicates that Brushy Bill was Billy the kid. I've looked at the evidence and read the testimony of those still living in 1950 who knew Billy the kid in the 1880s who said Brushy Bill was Billy the kid. And I have no doubt that Brushy Bill was Billy the kid
I always heard the name Billy the kid as just being a famous outlaw. Most recently I found d a TV series called Billy the kid and now I know the life story. Very intriguing piece of history !
That television show is fiction. It is not an accurate portrait of his life in the slightest. Historians know very little about him. From the little they do know they hypothesis he came west on an orphan train. That TV show has him come west with his mother. It's for entertainment purposes only. If you want to know actual history you have to read history books written by history professors. People who have studied the subject to the point of a doctorate degree. Don't rely on TV, movies, Netflix, Facebook or yahoo comments for your information
Anyone that loves this btw watch a movie from the 80s I believe called the long riders great movie bloody and lots of fighting and David carradine and his brothers and other brothers from actors. Great flick
Billy died in Texas after his get away I know my great grandfather wrote with him we’re from Lincoln New Mexico my great grandfather we’re the regulators we share Billy dna my great grandfather Chavez Silva, Trujillo Sanchez and of course my great grandmother nana Geronimo one of the 400 slaves Lincoln New Mexico we’re from the Revolt 1680 run away slaves Rual native No reservation for this Geronimo our band Mangus Colorado Northern New Mexico and Colorado we never went back or enrolled After all the leg cuttings whippings who wanna go back?
Good documentaries show the sources not the speakers face, kinda takes away the magick of the historical information, I enjoy your channel but I gotta point this out cause it's bugged me enough now.
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My great grandfathers were the regulators Billy the Kid didn’t die Silva Chavez Trujillo Sanchez we share his dna And my great grandmother nana Geronimo Lincoln New Mexico
Interesting and informative. Excellent reenactment scenes enabling viewers to better understand what/what the orator was describing. He made the right decision. Going to Fort Summner after escaping incarceration in Lincoln. Had he stayed 2 weeks/got well fed/well rested/ had “Old Man” maxwell give him a fresh mount/pack horse 🐎 supplies. He could have left the territory & started fresh. Lived a long healthy life.
It’s so funny how many people I’ve met in life that claim to be a descendent of Jesse James or some other famous outlaw. I mean what about Bob or Jimmy Joe to nobody has ever heard of?
I like all this stuff, were it's always the British who are the bad guys, most American films put the British as the baddies but in real life their the good people, the only person to give Billy a chance was the man he robbed yet he showed compassion and it all would have worked out if it wasn't for the Irish, or whoever the other gang was, I,m not English but every time I see a documentary which makes them out to be bad when in real life it's the British who are the good guys gets me mad, this surprised me when they mentioned the Englishman
It's hard to say though. Billy seemed to want to be with Tunstill, after he showed him Mercy for stealing his horses with Jessie Evans. But, after everything is said and done, it was the Scott and the English that wanted to change corrupt Lincoln. It was Irish, Billy was Irish, but race didn't matter to the Kid, he was interested in right and wrong.
@@silkoakranchpitchforkranch1205 you wouldn't have been there if it wasn't for the British, and remember you would all end up paying more taxes in the long run, plus not hating on anyone just saying, what happened with slavery and the treatment of others wasn't anything a country with the belief they were gonna be a free country with freedom of speech etc, The British ended slavery when they realised it was wrong, remember the British had been fighting against countries which had tried to enslave them many times, they first come across humans been court and sold as slaves by Africa's raiding Ireland many years ago, the African slave ships would go to Ireland and rape and kill the women they didn't want kill the kids then take the men they could sell, this is were the British got the idea from, cos the Irish told them what was going on, and the British decided to put an end to it, but they shocked at how big it was on the African continent, just so happened that they got good at it, but once they realised it was wrong they put a stop to it, and they went on a crusade to stop it all together all over the world, and they put their money where there mouth was, cos putting an end to slavery cost them billions, and this was many years before America ever did anything about it, around the 70s, wasn't it,? But then again your were 2 years late for a global war to which the British went to the help of Poland and then saved france, who we're the fault of America being like it is today cos the British had to fight to dastardly french and the people in the new land, which is why they lost, well depends how you look at it the British see it as a lucky escape, not hating on America but look at what they see as a free country with the freedom of speech etc,? Do they really believe they are a free country? They only see and think what their government wants them to see and think, Like when the British nuked there 2 major cities when American wanted to test it's new 98 % effective billion dollar radar system which it told it's people was 98% effective and wouldn't be bypassed, so the people were going around thinking they were safe yet them Brits got passed with their heavy bomber which looked like a fighter plane, with a cheap ingenious machine that blocked the American radar, they did this a few times to make sure it wasn't just a fluke which it wasn't plus this was at a time when Britain was at its lowest level in the investment in its military, they were still paying for the 2nd world war which they didn't finish paying off till 2012 or somewhere around then, every other country were better off after the war, just Britain and the other half of germany, which once again was the fault of the Americans, the British told them not to let Russia get to Berlin first cos they will, well we all know what happened, just because the American general wanted to do things his way and not listen to the British who said it like it was, and they were right, same with Israel the British didn't want to let all the jews take the land but were forced into it by America cos they were at a all time low after the war, Not hating on America, but history has shown what happened when a new country thought they knew best not listening to one of the biggest and oldest country's around, they make big mistakes just because of pride and jealousy, but still good job the two countries are as close as two countries could be, Sorry about the long ass rant I can get carried away sometimes.
I used to have a lot more respect for Wyatt Earp, I can understand him being angry when they murdered his brother. But he became no different than the killers he was trying to kill. So Wyatt Earp became just another murderer just like the rest of them.
Very possible for a real rocker to look at you sideways for respecting/appreciating a (Jon) Bon Jovi song...but screw that, this song kicks---👇👇👇 Hey Patty Garrett that's what I used to call you They tell me you want me but I hear they've got you They made you a lawman with a badge made of silver They paid you some money to sell them my blood But you say, this ain't about me and this ain't about you Or the good and the bad times we've both been through When the lines between brothers and justice have changed You do what you've gotta cause you can't walk away Wonder what would of have happened if you were the killer and I was the hero Would things be the same ? Or would I have traded your life for my own life ? Would I have paid your debts in your place ? I don't know But this ain't about me and this ain't about you Or the good and the bad times we've both been through When the lines between brothers and justice have changed You do what you've gotta cause you can't walk away Blood money, that's what I call it 'Cause money for blood ain't no fair exchange Blood money Bought and then sold you But your conscience is all you can take to your grave
A movie that I've seldom seen referenced, maybe because it's a really over the top "gimmick" flick: The Long Riders starring just about every father/son/cousin that could be accumulated at the time of filming, from Keaches to Guests, Carradines, Quaids, and so on. Too bad putting James Arness and Peter Graves together in it just wasn't possible. Nonetheless, it was a beautiful film, touching on several real events of the old west. What might be your feelings about it?
So I’ve been watching and listening to all this information about Billy the Kid. I’m curious as to why no one has yet to mention what I believe. 1) in some, it is noted that it was a full moon. That may be well in good outside and possibly shining through a window. But that is never mentioned. What is mentioned is 2) Pat is sitting at the head of the bed beside Maxwell. 3) Billy knows there’s someone there, in the house, not necessarily in the room. 4) Billy goes into Maxwell‘s room to see if he knows who it is, if it’s safe. 5) it is so dark in the room that you can’t see your hand in front of your face dark. Regardless of a full moon. Otherwise, Billy would See both Pat sitting on the bed and Maxwell laying in the bed. 6) Bill knows that Maxwell is in the room so we stepped in and asking him who it is. When Pat shoots in the direction of the voice approximating height and shoots Billy twice. One gets him in the chest the other one doesn’t. He’s shooting at the voice and gets lucky. I would think this would be the same as shooting a man in the back. Everyone, the corrupt government, and the outlaws he hung around with made Billy the Kid the Patsy. They even say his crime was actually the cattle rustling. Was it really? Wasn’t he just along for the ride making a few bucks with a gang who was already in the process of rustling cattle? This was just an excuse because he was good with a gun and dangerous that way. And the powers that be needed him out of the way they just didn’t know that they would go down with him. With what we know today, they could ex zoom that body and confirm whether or not it was Billy the Kid, but that would take away the romance. I’d like to believe it’s not him because he surely did not deserve to die, and didn’t deserve to die the way he did.
You obviously didn't do much investigating in your subject Catherine was Billy's aunt he wasn't born in New York but Texas. When Garrett wrote the infamous book about Billy his co writer gave Billy his own birthrate and place of birth. This is well known history to those who look for it . Starting your video so wrong I didn't watch past first 3 minutes. This is leading others on a wrong history lesson. I hope you do better in the future.
Oh, the Clanton family said the Earps were the bad guys? Well, that proves it then...horseshit! The Earps weren't cattle rustlers and the Cowboys weren't enforcing the law. Wyatt Earp had his horse stolen and two days later he saw Ike Clanton riding it and took it back. Ike is lucky he wasn't shot dead, then and there. To hell with the damn Cowboys!
Some ot the points are plainly revisionist. And revisionist with modern attitudes as search goal. Most historians know that cowboys were born from vacqueros and that black cowboys were common. There are many primary accounts that cowboys had guns. When going to town to celebrate after the drive town had laws where guns were checked in. Most of the west at the time was empty so towns were rare. Drunk young cowboys celebrating in town with their revolvers was the worry. And btw primary accounts Most cowboys were not good shots.
Annie Oakley had five surgeries for being paralyzed on her left side who in the hell was the doctor and they didn't even do surgery in those days other than cut off legs and arms if you got shot makes you wonder about history I never even heard that she got paralyzed sometimes I wonder about these stories man. And I ain't saying it ain't true I don't know.
Love the video. I have a ginger male, my second one, and he is just like a dog. I have a black female who is very affectionate. I also have a female tabby who is very skiddish. After one year of owning her, she finally sleeps on my bed and let's me touch her briefly. I love them all.
Unfortunately by telling you about this film I'm ruining the massive plot twist for you, but if you're educated on Billy the Kid you'd probably guess the plot reveal anyway. But Old Henry is definitely worth checking out. Its not a biopic or anything like that. Its a slow burn thriller with some action, but I thought it was a bit more grounded and realistic than Young Guns
I think modern audiences have definitely outgrown the standard Hollywood take, where everyone in the Old West was a gunslinger and shoot-outs were common, esp in saloons. MOST real so-called shoot-outs were by ambush, with pistols that didn't exactly have the best firing range.
How could you do a profile on big nose Kate and make no reference to the incident in which, a jaded Kate, attempted to frame or atleast finger Doc Holiday for a murder.
This video is complete garbage and most of it is so inaccurate it doesn't even deserve much of a comment other than to say look up the real story for yourself before you judge history or Jesse for that matter.
So wait a minute, Etta Place met Butch and sundance in 1901 and when they died she may have come back and fought in the Mexican American war which was from 1846-1848? Was she a time traveler or did you maybe misspeak?
In one of the film clips, it mentioned Billt The Kid was left handed. Not true. A close look at the original picture cited showing the pistol on his left proves it. This picture was a daguerrotype that produced a mirror image. If you look at the Winchester in the original picture, you will see the loading gate on the left side of the receiver. Winchester NEVER made a lever gun with a loading gate on the left side, proving the picture is a mirror image.
When I think about the OK Corral one, it makes me laugh that it didn't even happen there... oh and what else is new Plymouth Rock was the a pep stop for the settlers from the Mayflower, and the reason why the Indian could speak English was because he was a slave and the land they used was available because the Indians died from Small Pox or something else that the white man had passed on to them.
It's a sad state of affairs that folks don't seem to care when other folks butcher the English language! (Montans? Mountains!) Sorry but this kind of thing drives me crazy! I know it shouldn't bother me, but it does!!
Lived next to Newhall, California for 36 years... Toured the home of old time actor William S. Hart... His home was located on a mountain/hill above the park that was named (William S. ) HART PARK, in his honor... Many black and white photos adorned the walls... There might have been a photo of Wyatt Earp on one of the home’s walls... My kids graduated from William S. HART High School, in Newhall, CA.
And in the end. Once again, it all comes down to the money... There is no virtue left in the world. If there ever was... I used to deliver the Leavenworth Times. I was a paperboy. Something I think no longer exists...
I would love to watch this through, but with the blaring music behind I will give it a miss. Why do you do it, you have an incredible story and fantastic graphics, why ruin it
And it sure is funny how noone wants to resume Brushy Bills body and get his DNA to check against his little brothers! What if he is a match? OMG! Rewrite history? Shhhhh...
