Wildfire Smoke forced STOL Flight Training location change - CarbonCub FX3 - part 2

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Demystifying how Back Country Pilots fly super slow short field approaches.
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@jpaulholbrook 5 лет назад

I watched the uncut Patreon supporter version before I watched this, so I was thinking I probably wouldn't get much out of watching this cut-down version. But I was wrong: I throughly enjoyed the whole thing. I now have a much better appreciation for the care you take in shooting and editing these videos. The hour-long uncut flight was fascinating, but this final cut really put the whole story together.

@FlightChops 5 лет назад

Paul - Thanks so much for both this insight, but also the support on Patreon. It is rewarding to get such direct feedback to let me know the time and effort spent editing the episodes is worth it - It's a lot of work, but very rewarding to hear that you see the value. My subtle way of "pitching" the Patreon campaign is to mention that there is an uncut version (when available) such as is the case with this one; and several times I have had a public person comment with anger that they are frustrated that to gain access to "all of the content" they have to pay... My response to that is always to say, actually, to get to view any of the content, you can thank the few that choose to pay so that it is possible to produce it... and the majority of it is free to view thanks in large part to the Patreon supporters, as well as some corporate sponsors that understand ongoing involvement as opposed to one off brand deals is the way to keep this sort of content alive.

@MrTassadarzo 5 лет назад

I like your instructor, his attitude is excellent!

@FlightChops 5 лет назад

Yes, Brad is great to fly with!

@terryrutherford2114 5 лет назад

@@FlightChops I agree, Brad's demeanor is perfect.

@279seb 5 лет назад

Who was the instructor? He really knows how to critique in a manner that engages you to analyze yourself. His tone really puts your mind in a safe zone where your instincts don't feel like their being attacked. Really great skill. You did good aswell stevie ;)

@pursueadventure 5 лет назад

Pandatrack- That would be Brad, part of TacAero's phenomenal team. Truly you have to fly with these guys to understand the caliber of instruction they give.

@BanjoBen 3 года назад

Wow, what an instructor!

@FlightChops 3 года назад

Just seeing this now - glad to see you catching up on some of the older videos Ben! Have you need flying much? Cheers, Steve

@BanjoBen 3 года назад

@@FlightChops hey brother! Yeah man, getting back into it. Doing a backcountry tailwheel course in Glacier National Forest this summer..stoked! Holler if you’re in middle Tennessee!

@WendelltheSongwriter 5 лет назад

In the Champ, I don't know if I ever really think much about the (scant) instruments, which is a REAL help in cockpit management. To me, this kind of flying is seat of the pants; getting the picture, hearing the sounds and letting the airplane do its thing. Obviously, and even though I fly out of turf, what you're doing in the mountains is a bit different, especially with all the different types you're flying. I get that. But once you "know thy airplane" making good approaches and sticking landings seems to me to be a lot more intuitive than number oriented. Another gem, my friend, and awesome scenery. Thank you.

@clinty51 5 лет назад

What an impressive instructor, informative, authoritative yet so calm and relatable

@hygri 5 лет назад

Your instructor is just fabulous. Must be great learning from someone so peaceful!

@matthewdrehobl2835 4 года назад

Your instructor is the calmest backcountry instructor I've ever seen. I would love to train with this group. Another awesome video with tons of great information. Thank you

@erickstiner1668 5 лет назад

Excellent quad angle viewing. Very helpful to follow with your audio, describing “sink” Thank you for putting out such high quality videos.

@FlightChops 5 лет назад

Thanks for appreciating the work to make the video :)

@earthsciteach 4 года назад

Your instructor has a fantastic demeanor. If I ever get into this type of flying, I will keep these guys in mind. You definitely have created one of the best aviation RU-vid channels!

@Limbwalker1000 3 года назад

Hi Steve,,,, This is Steven again from Columbus, Ohio....Man do I love STOL Planes, Carbon Cubs and all of your videos. STEVE...!!! YOU DEFINATELY NEED TO BUY A STOL PLANE...Cuz it looks as if you highly enjoy them when youre up in the sky flying in one of them...SO,,,, Bust out that wallet and go purchase one....You could always sell it if you didnt want it anymore..!! I wish that I could buy one....LOL....I would if I could,,,stay safe up there guys...!!! HAPPY FLYING

@camsmith4633 3 года назад

Steve, I know I tell you often, but I’m so thankful that you’re sharing these experiences with us. My dream is to have the opportunity to buy an X Cub or Super Cub to explore the Washington, Oregon, Minnesota, and Alaskan backcountry. Your filming is excellent, and as an aviation photographer I would pay ridiculous bucks to get to shoot all of those gorgeous tundra birds in their natural environment - near mountains and streams. I know the rigors of content production can be extremely stressful at time, but I truly hope that you’re enjoying all of this half as much as we are!

@Braeden123698745 5 лет назад

Flight instructors man, they're cool people

@otto8127 5 лет назад

Its hard not to smile seeing you flying the new cubs after coming from the old super you used to fly :)

@FlightChops 5 лет назад

I still love the old beater... But yeah - the new hotness is awesome

@goreoproductions6955 5 лет назад

Hey Steve! I just wanted to say two things. 1. Love your videos 2. I really like that you’ve numbered this series, and that makes it a lot easier to watch these back. Thanks!

@devingraves8044 5 лет назад

As someone from the PNW, its cool to see all your videos from the region, and I like you the issues of wild fire smoke we face every summer now to the for front.

@josephsener420 3 года назад

Planning to start my tail wheel endorsement so this was fun to watch.

@craigpennington1251 4 года назад

Outstanding aircraft,countryside,and your instructor. Thanks for this video because I can't do what you are doing. You guys are living a great wonderful life. These aircraft didn't exist when I was your age. Love the Orange&White livery.

@ninerocks 5 лет назад

Awesome, really love the bush plane/STOL stuff Steve. It's this kind of flying that really excites me and keeps that spark alive, that one day I'll manage to get my license. Thanks again for another great video.

@FlightChops 5 лет назад

I appreciate this feedback. I love sharing all aspects of aviation; It all has a place for either simply inspiring us to stretch our flying horizons, or literally making us better if we get to do the actual specific training.

@ninerocks 5 лет назад

@@FlightChops The variety is one of the things I love about your channel over the other aviation channels I subscribe to. Keep living the dream man!

@kyounotemawa 5 лет назад

Shaping up to be a good Friday evening!! Thanks Steve!

@conopspi 5 лет назад

Really dig your Channel Steve! Awesome videos!

@TheWindigomonster 5 лет назад

That beaver footage has me hyped!

@FlightChops 5 лет назад

Me too :) . Can't wait to get into editing that - we shot nearly 6 TBs flying around Alaska! ~5 or 6 episodes to come from that material!

@randyvanvliet226 5 лет назад

Excellent informative video, Steve.... The instructor there at Tac Aero is awesome at "bracketing" and helping anyone figure out in their planes what to do to check the limits of power, rpm, speed, decent rate, and when the stick gets mushy, so you can set your own personal limits on your own plane, and take notes. Great instructor.

@CameronPerdue 5 лет назад

Float flying is where it’s at! Bummer the seasons over... found your videos recently and wow always impressed!

@MichaelLloyd 5 лет назад

What a great video. I really like TacAero's instructors. Hopefully I'll be able to take their training one day

@bobthefrog4588 5 лет назад

Now you’re just teasing! Well done Steve. Bloody brilliant. Have watched it several times for the content, scenery, and Brad’s thoughts.

@JoseDanielFSX 5 лет назад

Awesome content as always men! I just hope I can start my PPL training in the near future, I am really in love with aviation.

@ThePikeywayne 2 года назад

Great stuff, nothing beats first hand flying but following great links like these are preparing me. Thanks

@rocketplane8862 5 лет назад

Loving the content, Steve. It's really cool watching you continue to learn after so many years of flying. Just reminds us that we all have something to learn. I've been lusting after the Vans kits for years (and will continue to do so for a while yet.) I'm really looking forward to those videos!

@cockroachdeloach5093 5 лет назад

Sweet! Can’t wait for the RVs!

@jvwarren 4 года назад

Thanks for the video! It brought back memories - I learned to fly at Stehekin in a Husky in 2004. What a great spot!

@birds_eye_view 5 лет назад

Great video and a truly amazing countryside! Would be a dream to fly over a place like that one day.

@gordonfeliciano4315 5 лет назад

Hey Chops, loved this video! That Carbon Cub is DA BOMB! Would love to get my hands on one some day. Great video!

@flyingcaba5874 5 лет назад

I like the variety in your flying. Backcountry, night flying, warbirds, IFR training, flying jets and turboprops, LSAs....cool stuff. You should try gliders too, it´s awesome.

@sodot887 4 года назад

that instructor is as cool as ice

@corycoyle6725 5 лет назад

This TacAero instructor really seems like an awesome very well educated guy. I would love to fly with them one day.

@llukas0906 5 лет назад

the quality of your videos is amazing! Keep it up :)

@rbnhood39 5 лет назад

Brad is an awesome instructor

@DickGibson 5 лет назад

Outstanding!!!

@JLUY-gd5ql 4 года назад

Thanks for the great content.

@clintonbutton712 5 лет назад

Got to get me some training in the C182 in the bush here in oz, to make use of the big wheels and slow approach with 40 degree flaps.

@Ringele5574 4 года назад

17:00.... ego can kill. I love these videos.

@bbt95762 5 лет назад

@0:52 pro with the fly rod :) looks like an awesome place to be flying and camping

@mikercflyer7383 5 лет назад

Awesome video and the scenery is not bad either.

@Dunwyche 5 лет назад

Hey FlightChops, 'Flying Cowboys'... it would be great to see you join them! Great post as always!

@wildtimbrown 5 лет назад

He better watch out for Trent's "CarbonCub Killer ;-)

@1shARyn3 5 лет назад

hey --- at Vans --- flying with Mike!!! ;-)

@lonnieholcomb2078 5 лет назад

Thanks

@cooperbeggs 5 лет назад

Love it!

@jamesdonaldson-webster6079 4 года назад

Just rewatching this one now, reminds me I am still excited for that Alaska float flying footage to come out.

@FlightChops 4 года назад

It’s finally in the pipeline now - was delayed for some logistical reasons...

@jamesdonaldson-webster6079 4 года назад

@@FlightChops Glad to hear - I will look forward to it. Totally understand the delays/work of getting the footage edited - taking the break to get the Multi and IFR ratings was definitely a good call!

@brianpetrow7218 3 года назад

So much want to get to Oregon for 10 days... cmooon Lottery!

@antigoon78 5 лет назад

Great video again. I'd love to see you really learning to fly gliders. I recognise a lot of similarities except we don't get to go around :)

@FlightChops 5 лет назад

Yes, I'd like to make some soaring content. I did start with gliding back in the mid '90s and got a few solo hours in an old 2-33... But I moved to power training before I finished the glider license, and never got back to it...

@antigoon78 5 лет назад

@@FlightChops life is different in modern gliders :) if i weren't in The Netherlands, i'd invite you over in a heartbeat!

@tomm.7632 5 лет назад

I wanna fly with this kid , love the cub

@TheMerryPup 5 лет назад

"It's a completely different kind of flying. All together!" 😜

@patricebourbonnais 5 лет назад

Awesome vid! Cant wait to see your vans video

@FlightChops 5 лет назад

Thanks for watching to the end :)

@bmanthegreat7752 5 лет назад

Patrice Bourbonnais

@nathanbain3348 4 года назад

Amazing instructor.... we have a few good arrivals! lol

@Jone952 5 лет назад

Gotta have that steep stable approach!

@douglasschafer6372 18 дней назад

great

@Maxfahrer 4 года назад

Cool, is that Stehekin State Airfield, where you were going?

@Jet-Pack 5 лет назад

On final approach you're pulling a lot of elevator, would the elevator effectiveness increase if you trimmed the horizontal stabilizer aft? It might be impractical for the go around

@LinkinLoris 5 лет назад

My God, this backcountry flying, camping, fishing, the scenery and the whole lifestyle is quite something. Definitely gotta renew my SEP next year.

@MrJwmckenzie 5 лет назад

I remember some fire training I had in the past when I volunteered at my local fire department. The instructor had mentioned that in a house fire, smoke inhalation can reduce the lungs' ability of gas exchange up 80-90%. I'm not sure what the density of forest fire smoke may be in those conditions of flight, but the mention of "demeanor change" may be a result of lower oxygen levels in the brain? I am by no means a professional in this area or know if this is 100% accurate(if someone knows, please correct me if I am wrong), but it makes sense to me, based off that info, why fire season can change the pilot's mental, and bodily functions during flight.

@craigpennington1251 4 года назад

P.S. Please make a video of that T-6 being flown into and out of this landing strip. That would be great.

@Bearhawk_Life 3 года назад

I fly a tailwheel/stick aircraft and I notice that your right forearm seems to rest on your right thigh, I would think this could complicate things and slow movements down as well as not really allowing your rudder movement to be totally independent of your stick movement. Maybe the camera angle just makes it look this way, but your legs are all over the place right and left on approach. Love the TW videos tho

@FlightChops 3 года назад

Yeah I have to look at it again to see, but I don’t recall having an issue with leg movement interfering with stick control

@Bearhawk_Life 3 года назад

@@FlightChops no, your legs are not in the way of the stick, but they move side to side as you move the stick due to your arm resting on your right thigh. As soon as you watch it will likely be obvious. Anyway, keep the TW videos coming

@teo59 5 лет назад

what's the nav app that you are running on your ipad? thank in advance and anyway, awesome videos!!

@javigalinsky417 5 лет назад

What kind of responsibilities do they have in these carbon cubs? Are they just instructors or do they work conservation out there?

@durwoodhibbard9312 5 лет назад

I really enjoyed this video, I am wondering what was your typical FPM decent rate in these approaches?

@FlightChops 4 года назад

Hey man - I can't find the email or message thread where we talked about your self addressed stamped envelop as related to my Dec 31 2019 offer to send patches - But I finally got it out and on the way to you (and everyone that sent them in) from a trip I was on this week across the border :) I hope you and the girls enjoy the swag! Can you email when you receive? flightchops at gmail dot com.

@mlhbrx96 5 лет назад

Great vid!! What was the distance of your "usable" runway?

@FlightChops 5 лет назад

I wanna say it was less than 1000' - but I'll need to confirm with Brad

@michaelkoelbl3592 3 года назад

Hey Steve, thank you for the video. It is awesome. I have one question at one point when you blend in “Aiming for 45 miles per hour and 1300 RPMs” you can see that the analog airspeed indicator shows 45 MPH is far below the white arc. Are you actually flying air speeds below the white arc (below indicated full flaps stalling speed) to do this kind of approaches? This is an important question for me because I have a CC to which has with 40 MPH still a lot of energy.

@FlightChops 3 года назад

It’s been a while since I’ve flown a carbon cub - I’d pose this question to TacAero - they are fairly active on Instagram if you use that platform

@gnomish844 3 года назад

Not an instructor, not instruction but some experience -- Yeah, you'll get slow, and you want to get it right in between clean configuration stall speed and flaps stall speed for true short landing. In my experience, full flap stall speed is about 5kts less than clean configuration, right before touchdown, I'll shove flaps back in and it just sucks the lift right out planting you firmly on the ground and giving you lots of weight on the ground for max braking. Fly your plane, understand your plane, know its stall speeds in different configurations well before trying.

@kurtisf3366 5 лет назад

For this type of training I would have loved to see a view down the wing from the cockpit to see that angle with the horizon. Not sure if it would have shown much in that mountain valley though.

@FlightChops 5 лет назад

Yeah - that was the issue there - the horizon was obscured by mountains so I decided that shot would not be relevant. We did however do exactly that the first time I did the training with Patrick in the FX-2 last year. I'll link that one in the next comment incase RU-vid blocks this comment for adding a link here...

@FlightChops 5 лет назад

This is the video where we did the shot you are asking for because the horizon was fairly clear to see over the water: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Tsv-CwuZFKg.html

@kurtisf3366 5 лет назад

Yeah that’s the shot! I forgot about that video. I have delusions of learning to fly those kinds of approaches some day but my lowly 172 probably isn’t the right aircraft for that mission. Keep living the dream man!

@tylerfb1 4 года назад

Why don't you do touch and goes? Why did you taxi back every time?

@vikramodedra4351 2 года назад

Hi Iwould like to see if cubcrafter and DHC 2 uncut videos are still available for patreon??

@FlightChops 2 года назад

Yes, the back catalogue of supporter exclusive content keeps growing - probably over 50 videos there now. Let me know if you have trouble finding them.

@trmon8890 2 года назад

These are the planes I want to learn to fly. Any advise for someone that's a true beginner?

@--Zook-- 5 лет назад

The smoke up here was REALLY bad this summer. I read being outside all day was like smoking 9 packs of cigarettes a day. Luckily I work outside all day every day.

@FlightChops 5 лет назад

So sorry to hear about that. What a brutal situation you all are having to deal with

@Ked_gaming 4 года назад

Using power to adjust altitude and maintaining attitude, is this an aircraft carrier landing ? :D

@fuddcar 4 года назад

I'm a newb to the page. Anyone know where the Mountain view with the lake was shot?

@justanotheremdoc 5 лет назад

My whole 3 flight training for the past 8 days has been canceled due to smoke in the bay area, hopefully i will get to fly soon.

@FlightChops 5 лет назад

Sorry to hear that

@burkejam3487 2 года назад

🙌🏻🙌🏻

@snubbedpeer 5 лет назад

What are those beeping sounds we hear as the plane is about to land, a sort of audible distance to ground meter?

@FlightChops 5 лет назад

You gotta watch part 1 :)

@mschmidt62 4 года назад

Stehekin!

@ybotskraps3394 5 лет назад

When do you think the next helicopter or Harvard vids will be

@ninerocks 5 лет назад

Yeah, would love to see more of the chopper work!

@FlightChops 5 лет назад

More helicopter stuff with in 6 months hopefully. Harvard / T6 stuff can be as much or as little as you guys want - I am flying that airplane a fair bit now - But I am careful not to go too crazy with publishing the warbird stuff; despite the fact that I think that sort of bare bones stick and rudder flying should resonate with all levels of aviators... it clearly doesn't. Some "Cessna Driver" types don't like to see things that they think they can't relate to. (I'll probably get beat up for that last bit - I am tired and not feeling super eloquent on a "publish day" when I was editing like crazy the last 48 hours)

@ninerocks 5 лет назад

@@FlightChops As an aviation enthusiast but non-pilot I am genuinely surprised that the "bare bones stick and rudder" stuff doesn't resonate with all pilots. To me it's like the blues not resonating with a rock musician. Each to their own though I suppose.

@MichaelLloyd 5 лет назад

@@FlightChops If it's aviation, I'm all in. If it's tail wheel I'll watch it twice :)

@Breenild 5 лет назад

What is the reason for still building tailwheel aircrafts nowadays? What is the advantage of tailwheels compared to nosewheel?

@pursueadventure 5 лет назад

Tailwheel planes are still untouchable when it comes to true off-airport operation. Having heavy duty mains in the front, rather than a delicate nose wheel, means they can handle many magnitudes rougher country than a nose wheel plane. The high nose up attitude also protects the prop infinitely better than being inches from the dirt. The configuration also lends itself to putting on larger tires (31s/35s) far easier than nosewheel configuration. All that being, said nose wheel planes are used every day in Alaska transporting people and goods to remote locations, most of those operations are going into a gravel or grass strip, aka improved surface of some sort. For true off airport flying most pilots are going to reach for strong tailwheel plane.

@joshualandry3160 5 лет назад

Above, but add tail wheel is more aerodynamic, more structurally sound, lighter, and simpler. Also, the configuration is preferred by may pilots. Lots of working aircraft, including crop dusters, are still tailwheel for this reason. Aerobatic aircraft are also in this class. Home builders tend to prefer simplicity so that means a lot of tailwheels. And of course, many pilots just prefer the small wheel be put on the correct end of the aircraft.

@wildtimbrown 5 лет назад

You do have to hook up with the Flying Cowboys. And having Draco on the channel wouldn't hurt!

@zachjanssen3788 3 года назад

🥺🥺🥺😭😭😭😭 poor draco

@house9850 3 года назад

"This is not to be considered financial advice"

@grocer3 5 лет назад

What even is the title of this video?

@FlightChops 5 лет назад

Can you clarify your question? And I'm assuming you didn't see part one? - it was the previous video

@grocer3 5 лет назад

@@FlightChops without context from the video the title made no sense to me. Just the way it's worded is very odd. Luckily there was a Carbon Cub on the thumbnail to draw me in.

@FlightChops 5 лет назад

Serious question: now that you’ve seen the episode, what would you call it? I struggle so hard with titles. It is super frustrating that the quality of my work has so little to do with the title, yet the success of a video is largely dependent on the title getting picked up by the algorithm.

@grocer3 5 лет назад

@@FlightChops Smoke vs Flight training - Carbon Cub FX3 - Part 2. You don't need to explain what the video is about in the title, just enough information to grab the viewers attention but not so much that they assume they know what the entire video is about.

@FlightChops 5 лет назад

See the thing is, your idea lacks context for two important aspects that make the video unique - Both the “smoke” being related to wildfire, which is key) and the “training” (specifically having to do with a very unusual aspect being STOL) are too general with out the specificity.

@TheCanadianBubba 5 лет назад

Must take some getting used to... landing surrounded by tree"s.

@slikrx 5 лет назад

Trent Palmer does a ton of back country flying, from out of Reno. Interesting channel, but not as educational as this.

@NellisNelson 5 лет назад

slikrx Trent really gives you the awe factor and this is (expletive) sick nature of the back country whereas Steve’s videos really take you back to basics and remind us that if you want to play you have to spend lots of time practicing first.