@@irh1738 Ed is like a melting pot of copy paste music trends he hasn't brought anything original to the table since his first album. Wiley had a point but was piss poor at trying to articulate it.
Nah. He’s the grumpiest clout chaser ever... from krept & Konan, Tinie T, Skepta, Dizzee, Bashy,.. calling Stormzy a back up dancer... he’s just a bitter faced mole that pops up from time to time.
Nah wiley helped create something and is protective of it and doesn't appreciate people dipping there money grabbing fingers in his and all the real grime artists pockets that have actually done stuff for grime in return for grime "boosting" there profile or just been able to use grime as a platform, I agree with wiley here personally and for everybody who says he is a coke head.... So what? Even if he is its his life, if u ask me it probably adds to the creativity, he is entitled to a personal life to yano let him enjoy it he worked hard to give us grime music and I'm grateful and now he is tryna protect it.
@fuckdaswine mate hes the BEST MC ever to come out UK he made your skeptas and your Dizees millionaires and who they are now un fact hes so OG he thought these cunts would be loyal to him like It is on the streets and they turned back on him hes going thru mad depression cah he round out people only wanted hes money and contacts thats prob why he abusing drugs if he is and thats why people that LOVE him should put an arm round hes shoulder and just forget about músic and be Happy hes the GOAT and allways Will be
I wish he would shut the fuck up wiley and just get on with it some fuckers gonna shoot this man with a gob like that he’s pissed other man are making big money 💰
fuckdaswine I wouldn’t say jealousy, maybe feeling a bit left out seeing where the scene is going at the moment lol! The man is making sense in his own way though if you actually take in what he’s saying lol! Each to their own tho
100% bs he ain’t a loyal geezer at all I no first hand I let him use 2 of my instrumentals one was grime the other a rap instrumental I didn’t get nothing no credits nothing one was on tunnel vision 4 the other was streamed after he let another artist use the beat and the wickedest thing is he tried to bite me he’s the culture vulture he said he produced the beats which is 100% false he ain’t even put a hi hat on the track he’s the pagan.
@@oracleelectronica after readin that i cnt really say nothin. I make beats and ive had that done to me. Not by wiley like but i feel u. I still think what i think but thats shabby af. Hope u get something from it
@@hellrazorhenry5489 I’m just saying Wiley is a hypocrite stealing instrumentals is not cool he has got a good style of music but it’s very one dimensional or he steals he bit dizzy and wonder and tried to claim music that ain’t his because he was restricted as a producer and a spitta he can’t rap for shit either
When you listen to what Wiley says rather than read what the media prints it's a very different story. Respect for standing up for what he believes in. They say "Stand for something otherwise you will fall for anything"
… They're like "Chip, break down what an agent is" You see a radio DJ, I see Agent Smith They said I'd died, I came back to life I'm on the other side with some different eyes…
liamdor yeah, an old man who paved the way In grime for everyone to succeed and then went pop and failed so he come back and begs for views by starting beef
I'm 43. I remember the days when BBC radio 1 would never play Black music. Now look. When UK Garage came out nobody wanted to touch it. Then it Blow up.My man has a point.
If you are over the age of 30 and followed all types of music then you k ow that Wiley is talking pure facts! The guy single handedly birthed all of your favourite mcs! And he is spot on about Ed. They did put him on!
They put him on and what? It wasn’t just grime that got Ed famous. Yeah it helped. Ed has been more than grateful and done bits for the scene. Wiley is just mad he never got to do what he wanted albeit they have made a track together.
Worst thing is a dot knows Wiley is talking truth but numbers and money run the game and who ever has the most (drake and ed) are the ones with the most power . If wiley was in it for money and not genuine love of grime he could of owned every one . But he choose to make every fly thier own path
@thomas bowden what are u on about?? When grime first came out it was called garage all wiley dizze zinc wookie oxide sticky and other producers did was make garage for mcs to spit on
@Bill olu Compton well boasty was more ragga which is Caribbean culture which wiley is wearing my rolex is a old school garage sample which wiley was in pay as u go which is part of his culture. Heatwave was pop but the proceeds from his commercial tunes went back into the grime scene.
@@dannythechamp1221 literally people forget the scene would 100000% not be where it is without dizzee. He was one of the first to completely blow up to the mainstream from the grime scene if not the first no one did it like him before him Wiley done fuck all apart from bring chip and ice kid in
@@incognito_soul5819 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
ricardo francis I thought that but I believe he knows he can only say so much without losing his fan base or been sued for more than he has worked so hard for big up Wiley!
He’s got a point, the music industry like the rest of the world is full of people that have no time to help you when you need it. But they’ll come running when you can help them. As for what he’s gaining, credibility what else?
Wiley was right back in 2019, I remember this and ppl thought Wiley is off his marbles. Mr. Vegas said the same as Wiley. Ty Kendrick for pushin this Culture Vulture Drake covers. Also ty Wiley my brudda
Wiley talking facts, I just wish he was able to articulate his points a lot better. Cos he sounds jealous on the surface, but he's making good points indirectly if you TRY to understand his stance and where he's coming from.
bonebog suck ya nan you wasteman you really think we don’t know what the literal term “pagan” means you’re obviously too OLD and WHITE to understand street talk you know why? cus you’re another PAGAN!
@@chef.ramesses So? The reply was in answer to the question. Wiley respects Drake for putting money on the table. His peeve is about why the UK needs Canadians and / or Americans to support TB when Grime made millionaires.
The producers of Top Boy said it was Drake who did all the dealings with Netflix. Because of who Drake is, Netflix agreed. No UK artist like Kano etc could’ve done it, evidently.
2 years on and we all have to discuss how right Wiley is on this . I love drake and even rate what he has done to help the scene but Wiley he is right people pick and choose to use grime. Grime and UK rap don’t need others we are the sickest and that’s fact. Now you see today how wiley is treated he sometimes doesn’t know how to say things but most of the time he is right . I remember this day he was protecting grime and he always been about that. Nothing but love and respect to Wiley 💯🙏🏽❤️
I've been on wiley thinking chill out music is music but actually I feel what hes saying. He lost a bit when he said it's not affecting him and then goes on an angry tirade lol.
I'm guna be honest, I was around when grime was born and Wiley really did create this whole scene. He brought in artist from all over London then started nationwide, then influenced grime artist worldwide. He even helped me alot put me in contact with many ppl, brought me onto the biggest grime rave ever at Eskimo Dance Watford Area. I love what he said about Ed, it's the truth, no matter how much it may look like ppl like Ed he was never a grime artist and regarding the top boy thing I've been saying this for years and it's not just about top boy. The day I link back up with Wiley me an him are defo guna reason on a lot of things about the scene.
Everyone needs to remember that drake practiced the art of acting , before he became a Rapper , so it would be so easy for drake to portray that he cares about the UK.
Thank you Wiley. Drake has been a vulture from day one, and everyone overlooks it. Sounds like Weezy when first came out, steals big from Weeknd for Take Care, jumps on any rising person & genre to make himself bigger. Tries to bury Meek for exposing his ghostwriting, but then rides on him again when Meek gains spotlight on the justice system.
So sad one of our biggest uk music talents got cancelled. He is the biggest and hearing this in todays context really shows us why. Keep fighting my brother. Wiley.
I’ve bin listening to Wiley since the pay as u go days followed them everywhere Bolton temple club Milton Keynes sanctuary warehouse the hangar Manchester London. Massive respect ✊
So honestly, I think Wiley should've known enough to get a contract involved if he was expecting Ed Sheeran to return a favor. Ed moves like Miley Cyrus when dealing Urban music. If it benefits him, he's down, if it benefits someone else, he's gone. Wiley being a veteran, I figured he would've seen that comin. And everybody knows Drake ain't bout shit ... that's nothin new
Wiley is trying to open people's minds - look through history then you will understand where Wileyvis coming from. Top Boy is only be mentioned since the involvement of Drake - why because money speaks and we all fall down to the tune of Money - selling your soul - Grime is not gonna be touched as long Wiley is around. Hear him for real truth.
Wiley just gatekeeping Grime and saying "exactlyy my point!" to things that aren't the same point. Wiley could be saying how great it is people across the world could be getting into Grime for the first time through Drake and Ed but that's not what he cares about.
But that's not what happens bro, people aren't getting into grime coz of Ed. Ain't no body checking pyro radio or rinse. They jsut checking the charts. That does nothing for the culture
@@chef.ramesses exactly. Both Ed and Drake are primarily popular in the US, and grime is a sort of niche genre that not everyone can get into, so claiming that one thing straight leads to another here can't quite be exact. People feature other artists to generate a win-win situation, if only one side profits then that won't work..
Ed Sheehan is as grime as Steven Hawkins is a pro skater. Wiley ain’t dumb, he can see everything for what it is and the sheeple don’t like the ripples he’s causing in their calm world, Gwan Wiley, eat em up bro
Another example of a white artist using black culture to establish themselves and then when brothers want some back they can't get it. Ed sheeran is theeee most boring singer.
