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Will a Performamce CDI make a Scooter FASTER?

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Went ahead and tossed on a performance Malossi CDI box and tested if it made a difference on my Yamaha Zuma 70cc Stunt Build.
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@MOPBOYZ Год назад

Merch available 🫶🏻 mopboyz.com/

@Deoge4 10 месяцев назад

I put a new clutch and variator on my 50cc zummer and now it only goes 25 what do I need to do to make it faster it sucks

@Deoge4 10 месяцев назад

You think the rollers to heavy

@officialmysteriousrider130 10 месяцев назад

That was called the bws / beewizz over here I remember when they first come out they started the big wheel craze for all mopeds to come

@officialmysteriousrider130 10 месяцев назад

@@Deoge4you'll be better off boring the exhaust at front with a rotary tool & carburettor inlet & bigger aftermarket air filter if you want more speed let it breath

@Deoge4 10 месяцев назад

@@officialmysteriousrider130 ok so I'll have to do that I did mix match the rollers 5gram and 6gram take off is great top speed only 35 so take the stock airbox that I bought off and put the cone air filter back on huh

@HightLink Год назад

in a world where most of the people want fast bikes, it's refreshing to see people enjoying scooters

@natsterjam Год назад

Yeah they make the best hair dryers man 😜

@HightLink Год назад

@@natsterjam I agree, if you don't wear a helmet 🤣

@travis2893 Год назад

Can't argue with 60mpg 😂

@HightLink Год назад

@@travis2893 I get 60MPG riding with a passenger on my CB500X, that thing must get 100MPG for sure

@natsterjam Год назад

@@travis2893 I can! 57Mpg on my Kawasaki 650 Versys! 😜

@dennisday1023 Год назад

I have an '08 Honda Ruckus, stock GET 49cc, with aftermarket exhaust and carb, and extensive jet tuning. I am firmly convinced that there are more gains to be had from transmission mods than from basic engine mods. A good variator (I am currently running a Malossi) can make a big difference. Simply changing variator weights makes a huge difference, even with the stock variator. Example, my Ruckus came with 7g weights and was very sluggish, I swapped to 5.5g and greatly improved acceleration and top speed. I have an NCY CDI, which supposedly advances timing 2 degrees, but the only difference I can really tell is that it eliminated the rev limiter.

@jaracgos Год назад

I'm in the process of overhauling an 07 I got for next to nothing. Polini variator, new clutch, bearings, and the metropolitan final drive trans upgrade. I'm actually starting with the trans before I work on engine, engine runs fine but the trans was in real bad shape.

@janiuyt8630 6 месяцев назад

on 2 strokes the timing should be more retarded at high revs for power

@YamaHondaGarage Год назад

I put my Malossi cdi on my fully stock aero 50 and man it is make a difference in low to mid range. Felt more responsive

@TheMaxxsj Год назад

aaaaah bruv, you giving me flashbacks from 20 years ago , thats mad you could find this series still to this day, their the best version

@scooterbomb2152 Год назад

Maybe the few degrees its advances the timing its enough to not allow a full burn in the cylinder.. Great vid.

@BoozySZN Год назад

MOPBOYZ, LET'S GET IT!

@Aj-om4dt Год назад

Do you want a Yamaha BW’s cw 1997 model Huges mods Crank & s6 sport piston & cylinder kit S6 intake Malossi MHR overrange Malossi 70 pipe MVT inner roter ignition MVT cdi Polini cp21 carb NCY quick throttle Premix only £700 GBP I can get it shipped out to you. They were only made for the UK & E.U market so it will be a rare bike for your collection 🥳 it’s done about 10 miles since it was put together. Message me for a video if you’re interested 👍

@ltrbenny Год назад

keeping the zuma youtube alive 💯

@heaven_x Год назад

Always wondered if they made a difference and now I know, you’re a real g Trevor 🤝

@chE3z1 Год назад

Best way to see if it actually makes a difference is to use a timing light. All that a "performance" CDI can do to affect anything is have a different ignition timing curve, or a higher/deleted rev limiter. Run the bike with stock CDI, check ignition timing thru the rev range with a timing gun and marks on the fan/flywheel, then repeat for the aftermarket one. If the new CDI has more advanced timing (advanced as in it sparks earlier) then it should make more power and feel more responsive. Too advanced obv and you risk knocking. Sometimes you will need to use higher octane but you probably use high octane on a big bore anyway.

@st.coiled Год назад

wonderful how you can just roam the streets without fearing from police.. here in switzerland we have to have that constant fear of police being around the corner with tuned mopeds

@alejandrokaristinos7727 Год назад

Same in the Netherlands

@tofu042 Год назад

same in germany

@blazk1ntok350 Год назад

same in slovenia

@hackedagain Год назад

Not that way in Kentucky in the US

@middlesiderrider Год назад

Seeing you easy one-kick the Zuma made me envious. I just bought a Yamaha Razz off marketplace...I have an Elite and a Vino, but I didn't know the deal with the Razz. Single speed transmission without variator, and the most finicky little engine I've ever dealt with. I can barely walk because I've kicked the thing over so many times. I got it without the factory airbox, and apparently these things are nearly impossible to get right without that. As far as your CDI goes: if the spark is happening at the exact right time, it's going to burn the fuel more efficiently, meaning you need less fuel. OR the new advance curve is wrong for your setup, and the spark isn't happening at the right time(for that 75% throttle rpm point), meaning you can't get a complete burn, leaving some fuel left over and causing the engine to load up and break up. Either way it seems you fixed it with tuning 👍

@Jpmcfly209 Год назад

Have you pressure checked it? Maybe your pilot jet is too small?

@middlesiderrider Год назад

@@Jpmcfly209 haven't pressure checked. It doesn't smoke excessively so I think the trans side crank seal is fine, and I sprayed carb cleaner on the magneto side seal with no change in rpm. Also replaced reed block gasket(previous owner glued it on with gray RTV and blocked the reeds). Pilot jet is probably too small(it's the stock 46). I have a Uni foam filter, and I made an airbox which helped everywhere but starting. It's way harder to start when it's cold outside which obviously points to it being lean down low, but normally the choke will take care of that. The choke definitely works, but it's still hard to start. I'm so broke right now I can't afford a pilot jet haha

@middlesiderrider Год назад

UPDATE: it was the magneto side crank seal. It was leaking. Found the leak with brakleen. Fixed it and scooter started right up

@kylezenklusen2041 Год назад

Thats a beautiful bike. Love that build.

@Bebo7.62 Год назад

How’d I JUST found out bout this channel ? Scooter vids go hard asl 💯👏🏽

@krisley5178 Год назад

That was a fun experiment! Nice work Sir. 👍👍

@Ruggedpig Год назад

I miss my 99 bwsr all stage6 build. She got stole and got it back destroy. love your scoot

@MaNNeRz91 Год назад

Bigger rear wheel/taller tyre 👀 will slightly change gearing. Probably making it more stable to Wheely and less aggressive pulling away with the strong clutch springs

@BattShytKuhraezy Год назад

YUPPRz

@Morgzii Год назад

That dog is too cute he doesnt Care how loud it is he just wanna be wit u😂

@aydenmizen4 Год назад

I solved the "more power, more speed" issue. I bought a motorcycle. 😂 love the BWS though🤙🏼

@pb6839 Год назад

I put unlocked rev limiters on all my two stroke projects but I’ve only ever noticed a difference on my Honda nsr50. It was rev limited before to I think around 6000rpm. With the unlocked cdi it would go to 9000

@plejsssik 2 месяца назад

7:00 the bmw in the garage 🗣🗿🔛🔝

@easypeasy898 Год назад

Your beam pattern was pointed to the sky😂

@1985cdt Год назад

Great video but tbh the whole time I was trying to get a better look at the beetle 👀 🔥 lol

@Bessylaa420 Год назад

True cid box works 👌

@user-ic5yq7qe4r Год назад

weld the rear disc brake on the zoom in Russia they weld the rear disc brake on them

@MOPBOYZ Год назад

you can buy a kit that you don’t even need to weld to cases you just need sr50 rims and the kit, very simple. i just don’t like the look of 12” wheels

@phat56pat Год назад

Makes a difference but worth the cost is up to riding style keep killin it

@MrTamiyacowboy Год назад

that CDI unit allows for stronger voltage/current delivery upto 20,000 rpm, the reason you felt that bogging at low/mid range was rpm related the engine is being held back due to the CDI and the pipe. with a full on race pipe that can allow you to have a higher rpm something like 14,000 rpm you would feel a lot more difference, another thing is you really need a gear up kit to let that pipe take full effect , once that pipe really kicks in around 12krpm and byond then you would feel it. also these CDI's do not have an rpm limiter ;) , so gear up kit and a more pokey pipe would unleash a lot more rpm and a huge difference in speed and power.

@cav3man360 Год назад

Y'all mobbing

@denox420 Год назад

new to the channel! but that old ford van in the background!!! absolutely beautiful! hope you had fun on your ride!

@Bjtuber Год назад

Always a good day when moboyz post

@Art-fb9jy Год назад

Hello! I think you should start an aerox project i know they are hard to find in the us but definently worth it , they are the most tunable 50ccs

@joski9030 Год назад

Port & polish , exhaust, flywheel, carb upgrade these little things can fly.

@brandonjacques4044 Год назад

😂 idk man ever since I brought a moped man I can’t get enough of these videos

@amko_1312 Год назад

What do you mean for this set-up?? Malossi sport 70cc Malossi multivar 2000 White springs for cloutch and yellow in the midlle Malossi reed valve Dellorto 17,5 Polini scooter team 2🙂

@amko_1312 Год назад

Sorry for bad inglish

@pietjefrauenfelder1590 Год назад

when your engine sputters when you give it half throttle it is because it is getting too much petrol and therefore the needle has to be moved down further, otherwise you have to aim the nozzle but in most cases it just helps to move the needle down further 👍 if you ride in hot weather it should have less gas than if you ride in cold weather 🙂 this is also why an engine that runs in cold weather makes more hp than if it runs in warm weather. however, it will of course also use more petrol in cold weather.. on a turbo motor you can really see a difference on a dyno if you measure hp in 35c° compared to 0c° 👍 It's funny that the scooter in the US is called a Yamaha Zuma And here in Denmark it's called a Yamaha booster 😅 in Denmark it's a really popular scooter model people here love to tune them a lot and many of them gets over 25hp out on the engine 🔥

@albertmaneveld9731 Год назад

Here in South Africa it's called a Yamaha BWS, don't ask me what it stands for.. They sell for a lot of money, like 5 times the price of the average 2nd hand gy6 150cc. Quite rare to see one. I have a Yamaha Cygnus RS 125cc 4stroke and I think it's ts probably better..

@Si-jk4iy 10 месяцев назад

@@albertmaneveld9731 BWS stands for Big Wheel Scooter, a throwback to mopeds that used to run bicycle style wheels, both smaller and much skinnier than these wheels. This model is known as BWS, Zuma, pre-bug Zuma and MBK Booster or Stunt in different markets throughout the world. So be carefully what parts you buy, as definition comes primarily from running either Vertical oriented Cylinder (earlier - more tunable) to Horizontal Cylinder (later - known as Bug Eye in US) which is generally less popular with the tuning crowd. Happy Scooting.....

@elodiie5430 7 месяцев назад

I would rather say that the scooter needs a change of the idle jet rather than an adjustment at the needle level but this can also come from the needle yes , it must be checked. Otherwise Yamaha = BWS, MBK = Booster (also known as Booster spirit / spirit)

@smartassist9700 Год назад

I’m not a mechanic at All. Some are naturally good with motors. I have a 1979 Vespa 200 P, a lot of chrome on it. Needs rebuild. Given to me but stored in a barn. I gotta rebuild everything (re-chrome),repaint, get new wiring, engine taken apart and rebuilt/cleaned. This scooter has 3rd spare wheel! It would be a SUPER BEAUTY! I WAS THINKING OF ASKING VESPA FOR NEW/BIGGER MOTOR TO FIT IN BIKE (KEEP ORIGINAL MOTOR ON SHELF/REBUILT). ARE YOU INTO REBUILDS?

@BigEpinstriping Год назад

You got that Zuma dialed now!

@jamesallen4306 Год назад

Remove the standard centrifugal clutch and vario ,Put a mallossi fly clutch and mallossi lightend vario with balanced rollers ! I guarantee the front end will go up all the time. Really it's a combination of a lot of upgrades, Big bore cylinder,big carb,exhaust. I built some insane zip sp scooters in Holland. Holland is where to go if you want insane scooter mods. Scheveningen has a very famous scooter shop ,with drag scooters

@MOPBOYZ Год назад

this is not stock anything

@jamesallen4306 Год назад

@@MOPBOYZ cool what have you done to it. I love tuning two stroke. Had a zip sp

@johnengland8619 Год назад

Thanks for the content

@MichaelParker-xs5sx Год назад

Loving every minute of it.

@turbolul559 10 месяцев назад

A performance CDI made my completly stock 49cc scooter go from 25km/h top speed to 70km/h top speed. So i would say yes it makes it faster

@TraumaAD Год назад

whoa. @ 3:50 you are directly in my hood where i am always mashing on my blacked out honda pcx 150cc around there n all over of course. ---- paul from SWS is building me a custom 90's yamaha zuma i want as my 2stroke shredder n wheelie machine. i gotta get a mopboyz sticker and perhaps 5 minute crash course in not tool'n a wheelie n breakin my self off lol. dig the content dude. -RICKY

@RemozGaming Год назад

Come to sweden, people drive mopeds and supermotard versions all modified "trimmade in swedish" You can legally drive one around 45 km/h but some cheap adjustments and a new exhaust your going 70 easy.

@ChubzDK Год назад

love you vids , my first scooter was a Yamaha Jog fs , from Denmark

@milesblom8216 3 месяца назад

I have a 70 cc peugeot speedfighter 2 with the same exhaust

@Kie1983 Год назад

Great video guys reminds me when I owned CS Phoenix in the UK

@fuzailhamid1122 Год назад

Breaking up means it was running too rich in the 25-75% throttle range, right?

@Jaxon_chickenjoe9 6 дней назад

Love the videos. Can you confirm, you had a problem at low to medium throttle? you moved the needle up by moving the c clip down so you gave it more fuel??? I’m learning. Thanks from Australia 🇦🇺

@megamindtvsydney3967 Год назад

Hello from Australia- what make and model scooter should I buy?

@MrDomek98 Год назад

Tomos Automatik

@dennisbain2348 Год назад

I have a 2 stroke 50 cc gilera skp that is old as the hills..... But will reach 55 mph no probs...had it for 5 yrs and i have done nothing to it .i dont know if this is normal but i love it ..

@snipedduck743 8 месяцев назад

You should visit the Netherlands once man, we have a huge moped community here

@lronharald7791 Год назад

put a polini 14/41 gering in, it will run master

@blazk1ntok350 Год назад

i wish i could do wheelies!! ;( i would be soo cool arround my friends!!.. but i will newer understand it how its done?! cuz my ballance is so low! ... i cant do it even on ordinary non motor-bike bike and i am affraid i wll hurt myself badly ;(

@Kie1983 Год назад

I used to get good results with the malossi cdi' s but always had issues with the pm tuning ones

@andyanders58 Год назад

Good vid. Took them boys to school Cdi.. sounded better for bug wheely on old man mop 😅

@arystan_hdr5356 Год назад

hello from kazakhstan stuntrider:)

@MB_JOSH4159 Год назад

I need to get one

@Cabral7o2 Год назад

Bro on the orange ped looks like Chris rock Lmfaoooo😭

@nbmiata9507 Год назад

it really depends on the stroke of your engine if it fires on the down stroke and this cdi makes it on the upstroke this could make a big win, especially for other engine or carb mods.

@Swampkiller1Tv Год назад

Carb from China come set up for China there below sea level so most of the time the middle slot is for usa depending where sea level is

@MOPBOYZ Год назад

it’s not from china lol it’s polini

@DoM-Inik Год назад

what kind of oil do you drive, where smells good. for separate lubrication injectect

@Lettuce-Pray Год назад

QUICK ANSWER: YES But be careful on 4strokes, cause valves are gonna float. My standard Peugeot Tweet RS50 can do 70kmh with an unlimited CDI, but valves begin to float at 65kmh.. Only did 50kmh with a standard CDI

@elodiie5430 7 месяцев назад

50 4t scooters often have this problem with the valves , You often have to check them, especially when you modify them.

@Danny-ds8uu Год назад

Wondering if I put one on a stock scorch 49cc Would it mess the engine up??

@sauce2349 Год назад

It shouldnt most parts like that is universal and all it does make the time to the max speed alittle faster fron others i would normally go with the blue 150cc cdi box

@creightonsuzuki5608 Год назад

Ive always kind of wondered what you load your tool bag with? I too want to only bring the necessities

@TheCoiledViper 5 месяцев назад

Some scooters it does nothing to. My tao tao bws 50 it didnt do anything for, my tomos 50 it made a 15 mph difference, now i have a genuine roughhouse that i bought for way less than they sell for, it dont feel like it needs one. It already does like 45 mph.

@nothingbutthisthatandtheother 2 месяца назад

haha not bad for a baby scoot. I convert all my Vintage Italian Scooters to Electric now they all do 180 kph love it

@frankierutherford1888 Год назад

Guys it’s not gonna do anything for 2stroke maybe a GY6 deal but you’re stretching it.

@Supermoto_4640 Год назад

come to denmark and ill show you how we tun mopeds

@Del-West-Watson Год назад

Ok, with all due respect, sod the silly little scooter, lets see more of that Beetle Bro!! 😂❤

@s.f.morris7331 Год назад

hey cool video. did you happen to get a chance to see your RPM's at top speed? and idle speed RPM? on your bore kit what size carb did you change it out to a larger carb to accommodate the bore kit upgrade? and one more question: how in the hell do you wheelie on a scooter? how do you even practice that without crashing or did you crash alot trying to wheelie. oh and what about variation rollers what weight are yours? sorry lots of questions but you seem like you know your stuff pretty good. do you use non-ethanol gas? do you have a petcock or shut off valve? what is your fuel/air screw on your carb set out to how many turns? im sure elevation plays a factor in that too. any tips would be appreciated and much needed. with mine its one thing after another got me almost to the point of smashing it to bits and laying it to rest.

@oliverjensen9006 Год назад

I could be sick if you Got a mvt Racing ignition for the Blue zuma

@MOPBOYZ Год назад

i’ve heard a lot of bad about those !

@oliverjensen9006 Год назад

@@MOPBOYZ Many og my Friends even my self run it on my derbi senda and my Friends run Them om Yamaha Minarelli Engines and they make Way more power then with original ignition

@grazz7865 Год назад

CDI may only buy you an extra 2 or 3 mph. You can’t squeeze out any more power from a 50cc engine than what’s it’s designed to put out. The only mod that will make any real difference is a big bore kit.

@smartassist9700 Год назад

I have a 2008 APRILIA SPORTCITY 250 EFI. RESTRICTOR STILL INSTALLED. IF YOU GOT AHOLD OF IT….. GEEZE. I CAN TAKE IT 80MPH AND I AM 266LBS.

@domenicobarillaro619 Год назад

In italy the booster is the best with malossi performance

@PSYCHOLOGYFACTS_12 3 месяца назад

Can u do a full mod list on your prebug stunt bike? Like everything else

@MOPBOYZ 3 месяца назад

i have build series on it !

@jeremycatches9766 Год назад

I bought an almost new one and the last owner put a performance CDI and it doesn't seem to go faster than any other 50cc that I have drove. It seems to have no low end as i need to twist the throttle over a quarter turn before it starts to move. and it has no hold on a slope. I have requested the original CDI and i will see if that is better. I just hope he didn't mess with the timing.

@marsbars1005 Год назад

Crazy didn’t know u lived in vegas

@Yz-Magge Год назад

bro if you get a yamaha aerox put on 70cc 24mm carb and much more it would be hyper 80mph whit right gearing and tunes

@LeIsIsTeamLeaderAliAbul 11 месяцев назад

Loving that shit. here in denmark all criminals run hardcore overclocked mopeds looking mad evil

@gg-uw9cs Год назад

Ah yes the 2stroke moped gang roaming the streets

@user-tp9mj1xw9c Год назад

It's strange as an italian seeing something made in italy being used in another country. Are we the only country were almost every 14-16 year old has a scooter and puts mods on it?

@Kr91122 10 месяцев назад

No ur not and that’s a Yamaha mbk booster / zuma These aren’t made in Italy at all and all European countries have kids with modded scooters

@evanharris584 6 месяцев назад

Is there anyway you could post the wiring diagram just for the malossi cdi? I lost the manual

@MOPBOYZ 6 месяцев назад

it just plugs in , no wiring needed

@berkayuysal Год назад

We want perfect Turkish subtitle option please🙏🖤🖤

@Jere607 Год назад

you should do aerox engine swap for some scooter you have

@BELG1994 Год назад

Is it legal to drive that fast with a moped? I live in Belgium and if you drive one with no license the max speed is 25km/u and if you have a license you can drive one that goes 45km/u 😅

@papriikaNL Год назад

I'm from the Netherlands and I'd like the answer too

@tofu042 Год назад

same for germany, too

@runningbear211 Год назад

It's illegal to go above 35 mph in the states... but we like to break the law

@runningbear211 Год назад

@@papriikaNL.

@MINKANS Год назад

Next will be rotor ignition😏

@kingazhar1212 7 месяцев назад

Brother if you do answer .. is this MBK BOOSTER SPIRIT ?? I HAD 1 .. I LOVED IT THEN 1 DAY THEY STOLE IT NEVER FOUND . IT is very rare in mauritius island 😢

@daws7859 Год назад

quick question should i leave my autochoke or should i put manual choke on my scooter

@STOMPSTAR125 Год назад

You either thought about trying to port match to see the difference

@viktorhellstrom7003 Год назад

What you think about the Yamaha slider or Aerox?

@cskalle1213 Год назад

the bogging at 25% to 75% is the small jet not main jet... or could be the gas is getting bubbly when the karburator is vibrating and foams the gas

@MOPBOYZ Год назад

no it’s the needle , i showed fixing it in the vid hahah

@cskalle1213 Год назад

@@MOPBOYZ cool! is its in middle or above the middle one

@johnthorp3649 8 месяцев назад

Idle jet is for up to 25% throttle. Needle and atomiser is 25% to 75%. Main jet is 75% to full throttle.

@Suklaapatukka_- Год назад

Ok im late but it sounds like you need a bigger carbulator

@FishingwithCristina Год назад

I want to know if he could help me? I’ve been looking for a video on RU-vid, that shows how the gas from a scooter goes into the carburetor. I have a scooter, and the only way it stays on is if I put gas directly into the carburetor.

@Skip_98 Год назад

Those systems don't work on a 2 stroke but on a 4 stroke fuel Injection it will make a diffetence

@johnthorp3649 8 месяцев назад

They do work with the correct mapping for a 2 stroke. Most high performance CDIs for 2 strokes will advance timing at lower revs, then retard at higher revs.

@gabidoo1890 Год назад

I had the same problem just never fixed it

@jrodfolyfe 3 месяца назад

Was it your pilot jet !?

@scottbaddley72 Год назад

Is the needle clip completely different than your float bowl level?

@husseinlafta8982 Год назад

come to netherlands brother search scooter meeting nederlands you will be amazed to see how thousands of people come together for a ride

@johnvanderbeek7535 Год назад

So would the new cdi regulate spark better? i wonder if you need to adjust the fuel air ratio then also.

@freakyfreerider Год назад

CDI stands for capacitor discharge ignition. A performance CDI will use an optimised capacitor value to enhance the spark generated and more accurately ignite at the correct time. Higher quality capacitors are used too. Also by having different resistance values in the internal circuit the timing curve characteristics can be changed to discharge the capacitor at more beneficial rpm, and rpm can be increased. Typically jetting won't be necessary from a CDI swap alone. And further modifications would be necessary to make the most out of the new CDI.