Will Birth Rate Decline and Mass Immigration Destroy Britain? Paul Morland 

TLDR: Can the UK do it? Yes. Will it? No, Quite the opposite.

Victor Orban in Hungary is reversing the demographic decline by giving large tax breaks to married couples that have a child, it is increased for a second child, and for 3 children the couple are not taxed at all. It's a policy that works, the divorce rate has plummeted, and women are far happier as well.

My concerns are that Idiocracy the movie is actually coming true. Genetic decline and decline in IQ i.e. the wrong people having kids.

Native Europeans have the right to exist and have a homeland to call their own.

I’m so sick of hearing about “demographic decline” and that’s why we need so many new people to come into the country. The baby boom was an anomaly and the government should’ve planned accordingly. It’s all supposedly to support the retirees in the Ponzi scheme of paying for pensions. There has always been far fewer people in the UK. If you look at the census from before the baby boom you will see there were fewer people being born and living to adulthood. It’s like the normal numbers you would have today if they weren’t bringing so many people in. IMHO there is a “not enough cheap workers” for corporations. All this immigration does is drive down wages for the native working class. If you study history and know about the Black 💀 that unalived so many people in Western Europe then you will understand that it lifted the poor surfs out of poverty. They were finally able to move to different places and demand a certain wage and the wealthy lawnmowers who were desperate for workers gladly paid it. Life got so much better for the workers. If

3.4 million visas issued in the UK .To put that into context and compare it with entire populations of some EU countries. There are 3.4 million people in Moldova, 2.8 million in Albania 2.7 > Lithuania and 1.2 in Cyprus. This is nothing less than insanity.

We have for decades been told that the world has too many people. I remember it in my Geography O level class, in the early 1980s. And recently I have come across teenage girls who state they will have no children in order to save the environment. But presumably the immigrants did not get these messages.

And when other cultures that have immigrated have many kids…. What happens to host culture….

People who are willing to use contraceptives are now paying for people who refuse to use contraceptives 😢

If we want to encourage people to have families, we have to do this through the schools. We've had decades where we've taught children either intentionally or unintentionally that having children is something to be avoided. The labels of "safe sex" and "family planning" have done a lot of heavy lifting.

The man in the middle is oblivious to the fact that his generation had things very easy and yet made things a lot harder for later generations

Pay men more and let mothers look after their children instead of shoving them into childcare so they can get back to work to pay for childcare.

The UK government says it is 'possible' for filipinos to get a work visa if they comply with all the requirements meticulously. NOT SO for immigrants from Africa or the Middle East.

After believing children hinder happiness and success, we discovered the opposite. Went from classic feminist in 20s, to mother - albeit late - in my 30s. Get married, have kids 👌

A child is two dependents: the child himself and the adult who has to care for and educate him. In the 1970s, women stopped having so many babies and became worker/taxpayers themselves. That was a massive increase in the workforce and a massive drop in the proportion of dependents in the population: babies and their mothers. In the 1960s my father supported himself and 5 other people.

Short answer, yes if nothing changes politically and culturally. We do need a great reset. But not the WEF one. Rather rediscover the political and cultural Britain of two or three generations ago.

All the younger generation in my family not had any kids, either too depressed, too scared, or can't afford it

My personal gauge of how bad things are is the ever growing amount of ethnic and mixed-race overrepresentation in commercials and advertisments, all of which we are unwillingly subjected to. As long as this single phenomenon of modern media is allowed to go on (and worsen) you can assume that we are still losing, and will inevitably lose.

No! Population does NOT have to be sustained at historic levels

I suppose another question is what people made the economies of those countries so bad that they had to migrate to improve the west and what happened to the nation that had no need for mass immigration during the Industrial Revolution. The same country that now appears to have little industry left but an enormous need to fuel that little industry it has left with millions of migrants?

Most people don’t get a career they get a job. They work in a call center, a factory building site, cleaning toilets, serving on a checkout. These people have not the same incentive to want to work past 60 as your job entails. Getting a crowded bus, then a tube to work on a building site, carrying hods of bricks or to a tower block to clean offices and toilets or hotel bathrooms then you really won’t want to do that when you are nearing 70 and you are unlikely to be able to do that when you are heading towards 70. Not everybody gets paid for sitting round pontificating or sending a few emails.

I just turned 30 and have a 5 year old child. We've never been able to have another one. Why? Because I have a pregnancy condition that basically takes me out of life for 9 months. Meaning, I can't make money. When my daughter was born, I didn't go back to work full time so I could care for her and my husband, work part time and see to every other part of our lives and schedules. The ONLY things stopping us from having another kid, is me having to work, and the fact that we don't own a house (housing prices have risen so much since I left full time work we have been chasing a higher income but its still not enough). Life is too much for us with one child and both parents working, and we can't afford even the slightest drop in income. My student loan will hang over me for decades, with no career to show for it. We've just sold our car and will be biking everywhere, we don't drink or smoke, we cut where we can. Yet life is too busy, too expensive, too bureaucratic. We simply cannot afford to have another child and go through life with some form of sanity... and I would love nothing more than to have another child, without the three of us having to suffer so much for it. There are many people in the same boat... we are grateful for our one child, because many can't even afford that. And yet, so, so many people want more children, it's just that the consequences are so brutal, and it will take so long to correct any financial downfalls (as opposed to many from the boomer generation, who could afford to take more financial risks and not spend years of their lives trying to catch up).

1. Take your country back 2. Be men 3. Release the political prisoners 4. Reject modernity, embrace tradition. Learn to love strength. Become Spartans.

Women get an increasing reduction in income tax per child up to 4. If you're married you can transfer your tax free allowance to your partner. Raise personal allowance for everyone to around £15k No social housing to anyone who doesn't have at least one grandparent born here. same with benefits. all legal migrants must have their own health insurance before coming here. can access NHS after two years of paying tax. No citizenship to anyone who doesn't have at least one grandparent born here if an immigrant loses their job they have 3 months to find a new one or they must leave.

Why do we need more people to be productive? Eventually we run out of space... Sounds very Ponzi to me.

So, these people want the population to keep expanding in order to bolster the economy. And when do they think that the optimum population will be attained? Perhaps never, just a continuous expansion in perpetuity until the countryside is one mass conurbation. And all in the cause of producing more and more stuff that may be wanted but is not needed. What will these endless droves of people eat and drink? In a world subject to a radical change in the climate, those genuine needs will be exacerbated. It is a myopic counsel that only a theoreticion could blithely commend. The world is heading towards a mass extinction of life on earth, in which it is predicted 70% of species are being driven ( and by us!) to extinction. But no matter, let us stumble blindly on and on...lunacy.

Immigration, lowers wages, especially at the bottom end of the pay scale. Those whose salaries are thus lowered are far more likely to need both partners in a couple to be working. Immigration means that much of the social housing will be occupied by foreigners, and there will be a shortage of cheap, private rental accommodation. Landlords, knowing that the government will pay via corrupt agencies like circle very high rentals on behalf of immigrants, charge high rents. The native British pair cannot afford for one person to stay at home and look after the children. Childcare is horrifically expensive and beyond their reach, how do you imagine they can proceed?

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My personal gauge of how bad things are is the ever growing amount of ethnic andd mixed race overrpresentstio in commercials and advertisments - all of which we are unwillingly subjected to. As long as this single phenomenon of modern media is allowed to go on (and worsen) you can assume that we are still losing, and will inevitably lose.

I'm a bit surprised that there was no mention of the downsides to population growth - England is already the most densely populated country in Europe and will be far worse by 2050, our food security is only at 50% (Israel imports a staggering 90% of its essential foods, so good luck to them with their growing population) and the amount of agricultural land is falling steadily, obviously in some cases due to house building, our road system is bursting at the seams and clearly can't sustain the current numbers never mind more cars, our environment is on its knees, the list goes on - surely we need to start having grown up conversations about the longterm population of the UK, what is generally being suggested here assumes we have an infinite amount of space and resources because this guy seems to be suggesting keep having more kids beyond the point of standing room only

Question: if the large majority of immigrants are poorly educated and only fit for low skilled, low wage jobs, what do the rest of the population do for work? We can’t all compete for these jobs..

Automated factories mean that fewer people can create greater value. It is a serious error to think the population must keep increasing for GDP to increase.

More of the same in other words. We must back parties that put family as their priority.

Historically, the way to prevent exploding birth arates is by educating females, yet its a mystery as how to increase birth rates.

What people never seem to discuss, which as a young person who wants to have kids is the biggest issue facing me, is actually meeting a suitable partner. You can’t just have children on your own; you need to be in a serious relationship. These are harder to come by these days and the dating culture is absolutely to blame. Of course, this culture is downstream from main societal culture around feminism and the attitude of the modern woman who have ever increasing standards and ever increasing competition for their attention. Sometimes, like me, you also just have romantic relationships that don’t work out. Economic factors are not really relevant if people want to have kids. Being poor certainly wouldn’t stop me.

It's called "Heaping up your own Funeral Pyre" as a Wise old man once said!

I had 4 Children I'm Skint but very proud, after all that's what you where put on the earth to do, nothing else

Good evening everyone

Automation means a reducing population isn't necessarily a bad thing....

Sensible people know that they can't afford to have children in the UK. They say that it's not an economic factor but i for one wouldn't bring a child into the world when i couldn't afford to give it a decent life

Perhaps we need to stop worrying about line go up?

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Until people can afford a child this is all pie in the sky. People of child bearing age cannot afford to leave home! Social housing, where it exists, is no longer available to them. That and a living wage discourage them. Childcare is also so very expensive so only for the rich. Offer free child care first and see what happens maybe?

Perhaps it’s time to have a sensible conversation about not keeping people alive artificially, entirely propped up by the NHS, beyond a certain very advanced age? I for one will happily let go, rather than end up in a home, ‘cared for’ by people who don’t share my culture or speak my language.

imagine if young men were keen to become capable of being good providers, and aimed towards making a home for a good woman, to whom they would devote themselves so that she was in a secure position to have children supported by a reliable partner.

we have lower fertility rates BECAUSE OF TOO MUCH IMMIGRATION

So what we should do is to *LET* the population decline. It will decline until it reaches an equilibrium and we end up with a stable population. We have abundant farmland, water, space and everything else that we need to thrive as a society.

Once Indigenous English learn to cook chana masala, falafel and stir fry. We will reclaim our destiny. Look after your parents till the last breath. Fake refugee/asylum scam problem solved.

The population will not decline for on certain demography

Funny how whenever anyone says anything about men, or society from the male perspective, feminists instantly complain "but what about mah whamen? But if a feminist says things about women or society from the female perspective and someone asks what about men? They're shouted at and called a misogynist.

Well at least I did my bit - I'm a Canadian, had 3 children one of whom emigrated from Canada to the UK in 2014 and is now a British citizen. Hopefully she and her boyfriend will marry and give me some grandchildren (who will be British not Canadian)

This video title should be: "Classical Liberalism has no response to the Demographic Decline"

The "raise our birthrate" solution is missing the point. 1. The dependency ratio is going to get much, much worse for 20 years, until the kids grow up to become workers. You will have retirees + kids to be funded by increasingly taxed and overworked working parents. 2. You can only mitigate it by raising retirement age AND funding benefits for parents. Solidarity should be sacrifice from the would-be conservative and traditional old ppl for the newer generation. 3. Raising birthrates sounds simple, but the main issue is NOT having kids, but raising kids. More kids raised with poorer funding is not a good idea. Kids we can afford are more valuable

I haven't heard the question: what opportunities will become available from a faĺling birth rate.

"I will carry on working on" Yeah mate, you're sitting down... lol

Another great guest; very interesting and salient discussions

The hacylon days of the 80’s, of a Britain now completely gone, was a very domestic one. Where, more importantly, a single (usually male) wage could support a household. That’s been removed, and immigration has increased the demand for housing. You could rent a house /room for peanuts in the 90’s before Blair, usually word of mouth.

Offer women incentives to become housewives,they don’t want strangers looking after their children & being a mother is a full time job,they are too exhausted to be working aswell,so stressful.

Why cant we just pay women to stay home look after thier kids.

firstly, housing needs to become affordable, this means building a huge amount of houses. Therefore, bringing down house prices, most people are homeowners in this country so politicians are afraid of losing votes.

No need to worry about an elderly population,i am 78 and getting close to my Soylent Green time

" If you want your own culture then have more babies. ". Nah. Because " culture " does not mean a damn if it is sheeple, morons, parochials, increasing teems of the challenged. it is not so much a case of social democracy not understanding culture, but much moreso a case of social democracy not understanding eugenics.

Some of my comments automatically disappear. Does anyone know what triggers their removal? They were polite and relevant to this video.

Lets see: Build rabbit hutch houses Divorce rate of 50% Blame men for everything Raise girls to think family is a second rate option It still makes sense to marry your childhood or college sweetheart if she is traditionally oriented but after that the logic fades very quickly.

Soon there won’t be a Britain left to save.

This is a great discussion and I am glad to listen to it. Solution is something that all governments have not cracked yet. Yes, even for women. My daughter worked for a magic circle firm in London. 12 years in law. She had to resign last year as she had a child and could not justify leaving her child in day care as there were numerous problems. So in essence, the battle was won in favour of the child’s welfare. To have successive governments who can't work out a policy to support parents who are working, is extraordinary to me. It Tells me the will is not there. Also no one has looked at job fatigue and therefore no solution is even in place to deal with it. The government is being cheap and bringing in people instead of growing and investing in the people in UK. You also have the 'better off not working' where those who want to work, well, it just doesn't pay. So ultimately and given my restrictions on this resource. The very basic level of citizenship breakdown at the point of secondary education. A narrow education system which relies emphatically on academia. To the guy who's sixty, it all boils down to government policy. Bad policies which are not CITIZEN focused.

No it can't - its done. People like to blame the incomers but in reality the lions share of the blame lies at the those that have the voting power influencing where things are taxed and spent. It would have been incredibly easy to use the north sea oil boom to fund a society for many decades (ie Norway) but we didn't. The UK is a rent seeking economy - grind it out of people instead of creating or manufacturing something.

Make life affordable enough so people can have kids!

For all the faults of boomers, their relentless optimism is quite endearing. This guy really doesn't get what's goin on though, and why zero incentives are created for baby making by those in charge. Harrison's point about other forms of sexuality, all non-procreational I might add, being celebrated was very astute and illustrates the problem.

He is the best!

It’s already destroyed…!!!!!!

Could it be deduced that those having children will be those that are in receipt of welfare support and the very rich. Those on a median income just find it economically not so viable.

We all know it's happening but we don't know why

Immigration might be a Ponzi scheme, but so is expecting the local population to have more children each generation too. Not only that, but expecting the next generation to look after the generation before (ie elderly) is (a) a Ponzi scheme, and (b) not measured by the economy because it is unpaid work. As you have glossed over, ALL Ponzi schemes eventually collapse and we need to re-order the economy, not the number of children people want to have.

i still think its because of the decades of overpopulation hysteria only in the last few years has there been some mainstream pushback .but everyone who is an adult right now grew up when this was seen as common sense. i miss the 2000s and 90s and they were doing this in the 80s 70s 60s 50s and even earlier decades. but this was one thing we were wrong about back then that we are only now finding out .

For me, as essential and important as culture is, it dont count for sh?@! if there are no nests for two lovebirds to nest in. Culture is more inportant in regards to the longevity of relations. We have priced the next generation of parents out of the housing market, if they are even working and/or will have jobs to go to with the imminent AI/Automation. That is a FATAL mistake, the dire consequences of which is barely acknowledged, by vested interests who will ensure that the situation will never be fixed, but get far worse. Especially for the native population given social housing.

The problem with skilled immigration is citizens will chose careers not on skilled migration lists. Because why become an engineer when you have to compete with literally the entire worlds engineers for a job.

The problem you have with the inevitable requirement to raise the retirement age, with people that are generally fitter and healthier and live longer, is not in fact raising that age, but being too incompetent to tell the difference or even wish to compehenend the difference between voluntary, involuntary and incentivised, let alone a flexible scope than hard limit. Retired people have done the societal workshift that was asked of them. The body, mind or spirit is worn out for many of them. That does not however make them ignorant of national plights and if they willingly choose to help with those. Alas, the first port of call for any government these days, is always compulsion and totalitarianism, rather than simply asking.

This guy talks nonsense. Asserting that each of the key decisions to be made all binary. Modern day Malthus.

The disempowerment of men is the issue.

Educational establishments, the media and popular culture have for a long time now hammered home the message that things that men have traditionally done are worthy of aspiring to and things that women have traditionally done are to be denigrated. You only need look at the way one of the most demanding school subjects that I studied has been treated: that is home economics, where we learned about nutrition and the science behind food production and preparation and hygiene. That subject is has been made not compulsory and is treated as a soft subject and an unimportant, subject, despite it being needed now more than ever. Likewise, other traditional female skills, which are important for homemaking and nurturing a family. Women excelling in female sports, such as netball are not revered, though that sport is played in Britain more than any other for females, but women participating in men’s sports, such as female football, all treated as if they have done something worthy and of interest. At the root of the problem you are discussing is the fact that the traditional female role has for generations now in elite circles, been disparaged, denigrated, demeaned, and sidelined. Reverse that and we will reverse the whole problem

The modern world and women's role is not sustainable. Women tend to work in healthcare, education, legal, bureaucracy, admin and in our planned economy with high taxes there is a heavily inflated number of these types of jobs. If people were healthy, home educated and the government was much smaller there would be way fewer jobs and careers available to women and more men would become economically attractive. You would still have a lot of women but the men would be the primary economic drivers once again. Also another problem is divorce rate. Around 80% of divorces are initiated by women, 80% of those divorces the men have done nothing wrong, 80% of those cases the women regret the decision 6 months later. So over 50% of divorces are initiated by women, with no fault of the man and the woman regrets it 6 months later. This is destroying the family unit at the margins and leading to more crime. It also makes high value men less likely to get married and support a family. Compare the marriage laws in the UK to Israel for example, the law in Israel is what the law used to be like in the UK. One final point, you should have the number of children that you can provide for and give a decent level of education, care and attention. Many people have children they cannot afford and the welfare state incentivises this behaviour. This is a huge drag on society too as higher value people pay more taxes for others to take advantage of. Solutions: cut the welfare state, cut government bureaucracy in general, adjust marriage laws to more of a contract that cannot just be broken, change the culture to encourage long term family units.

Hi fertility rates due to absense of divoc seniccav?

Well, I guess unrealistic dating standards are also affecting how young people date.

Round about 26;30 the guy in the middle of the table says .......we are in a Hegelian world rather than a Marxist world , .....with respect this is something of a show off statement as many of us have not done philosophy at Uni so you do not elucidate instead you complicate .

If you are native to the land having kids should be a top priority whatever the financial situation, and have faith that all will work out in the end. Because of the current sociopolitical situation in the UK this in fact should now be declared a severe and extreme national emergency. Every man and woman of procreating age should make it a civilization-saving duty and mission to produce as many kids as possible here and now, before it is too late. Produce 100-1000 kids per white British family. Or risk complete extinction in under 200 years. The situation for Britons today is this dire that the risk of losing everything is very real. This is now the difference between life and death of the British civilization as we know it.

First the Indigenous peoples of the British Isles must decide in their minds that they want to exist. Then unite and peacefully restore ancient traditional native sovereignty in their ancestral homelands. Domestically produce more physical goods for export than the total value of imports. Compassionately repatriate temporary misplaced visitors in the lands of the Anglo Saxons/Celts back to the civilisations they created in their ancestral homelands of origin. Teach and oversee clay brick house construction for them in their country. Keep them busy. Create an authentic European Union not controlled by anti European stealth soft power control malicious tyrannical dictators intent on erasing Indigenous Europeans and stealing our homelands. Then divert all previous unwanted foreign invader funding to a breeding program of our prime stock to repopulate the British Isles. God is an Englishman.

If men had more confidence in their ability to support and lead a large family you'd be amazed how quickly the birthrate would double. So many women find that their spouse gets coldfeet at the thought of a large family. We have 5 children and even my husband balked each time after the 2nd. It was my faith which urged me to insist on leaving it up to God, if I had been less religious I would have succumbed to his fear.

The damage has been done. Unfortunately, you guys allowed things to go too far before deciding to react and offer resistance to what your government was doing. What boggles the mind is that you have had Douglas Murray, one of the most eloquent speakers about this matter, on your side with frequent appearances on podcasts and live TV shows warning you about it as a fellow Brit. Yet, nothing was done.

Will? Hasn't it already?

We have had popularist governments, only interested in re-election for decades. The generosity of the welfare state is to blame when it is more beneficial for low paid workers to be unemployed than in work. Women have not been adequately supported and to avoid the situation of a low birth rate and increasing elderly population, women should've received monetary incentives to have more children. Immigration wouldn't be necessary and secures the growth of our indigenous population. The advance in technology always causes job losses. AI hasn't impacted yet and we need FEWER people. This situation is a total disaster. The only immigration I currently agree with is the legal migration of care workers for which there is a shortage. Specific immigration only.

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Set up your desk so the guest does not need to break his neck turning side to side - you two should sit on one side and him on the other. Enjoyed the info though..

All planned.

This guy was a waste of time. His refusal to let go of liberal doctrine and his indifferent attitude to religion, and his utiitarian approach to protecting GDP is actually counter productive. Waste of time.....'hopefully we can try move past hypergamy'....yeah he has no idea what hes on about.

Destroying the economy destroyed England .those that were able to buy homes at 30000 then sell them for 1 million are to blame .the old generation were living good.

Then you have the HR gatekeeping issue. Its difficult to fill jobs when older people arent even considered for such jobs, due to the blatant ageism that still proliferates. Its difficult to get older people trained for such jobs and/or career changes, when older people arent offered such (re)training, for the exact same reasons.

Yes. Within the one more generation.

So the solution is Logan’s Run?

48:50 Capitalism is good, the significant majority of people being influenced/inclined to prioritize financial incentive drivers in the most personal aspects of their lives, is bad. (Zero blame for women here, zero for men). I swear, it was barely 10-15 years ago that we still had the vestiges of a reasonably healthy, shared popular culture. People could actually meet each other in places, share common interests (not within some absurdly narrow subculture) and just happen to hit it off. It was possible for this to continue into one's 30's, and wasn't impossible for this to organically happen in 20's, at a more normal age. You mention Nina Power, she discusses the culture of the 90's, it had its downsides, but was probably the last time things were working 'normally'. (The decline became steeper, obviously, in 2010's). Honestly, not everyone was a defacto, ruthlessly 'materialistic,' self-interested Neomarxist by default. Being naturally quirky or interesting was cool, being excessively aggro-driven was not cool. (Ambition is healthy. There's a fine line). Does Sargon's Lotus-Eating apprentice, really think it's impossible for us to re-synthesize this particular dialectic? (Lol for real you're good bro, all of you are good). Gotta say, that near-future might be a little too callow, for me to even try to mess with it. Or into which to necessarily introduce my quirky, clever-ish offspring. If its 'soul' has already been extracted, you can go ahead and have this culture, I guess I'll just hunker down and start writing some kind of manifesto, FML (working title).