Will Channel 4 Shut Down and is MrBeast Moving To Mainstream TV? 

Taskmaster one is what got me, this podcast is great, but the algorithm is strong

Same.

Morons & sheep I think dude ha ha

I'm also 48 and haven't tolerated sitting through multiple/non-skippable ads for years. The only thing on traditional TV stations I watch is sport. Everything else is on RU-vid or a streaming platform.

The vast majority of people. Internet based streaming is cool but it does not compare to live tv that runs and all you have to do is sit there and switch it on. Nothing worse than a live stream freezing in the middle of a football match.

34. I don't watch TV. I watch RU-vid and some shows on Netflix/Prime.

@@fvefve12Record stuff and watch it later to skip ads

I got motion sickness

I don't mind.. A 3rd wide camera would assist.

Camera shots have me clicking out after 35 seconds. I’m done

I just wasn't a fan of the weird lighting shadows on Marina. Whatever -- the conversation was great as usual.

Don't forget those Medici Renaissance Clicks, too.

It's how they can track the data too. TV viewing figures are total works of fiction. Only 5,000 house in the UK supply the viewing data that makes up the BARB rating system, which means if 200 people watch the show, it gets reported as 1 million people. Frankly, it's the biggest scam ever invented. With social media advertising, you can see how many people came from Facebook, you target their age, income, interests, friends, etc and with the facebook pixel you can finely tune your ads so that they show to people more likely to buy your specific products. I'm not saying ads on Social Platforms aren't complete bollox either but they are vastly more tangible (and affordable) than TV advertising.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_FX6rml2Yjs.html that pretty much got him famous.

I never watched a Mr Beast video, though I have watched and had comments replied to by Mr Beat.

they are aimed at children that's why

He's absolute crap.

@@AbiSaysThingsI’ve never watched him, but he’s obviously not crap

talk sport are moving that way too and it doesn't work

And on sky F1 too

Agree entirely. It's become a turn off channel for me. Some of the pundits they have on TV as well are awful, where you have good people usually on the EFL coverage, those that appear on the EPL are just unlistenable.

​@@readingfcdecthe difference is Talksport genuinely couldn't get any worse. You can't tell me Mark Goldbridge is any more worse to listen to than Jamie O'Hara or Andy Goldstein.

If you're 15 or 16 it probably does

Agreed, bonny lad 🙄

Really fascinating, I think the idea about the current govenrment only caring about news content is a really important. I think that's true in a lot of sectors, where they have been laser focused on one or two (relatively unimportant) issues and then leave really simple, good, uncontroversial ideas on the side of the road.

Really enjoyed this, Ive also subbed on Google Podcasts.

I could listen to Richard, talk about anything for hours and end even how recycling works LOL

Waiting for the comparison between Nebula and Netflix

22:32 @jetlagthegame

Tom Scott has also helped develop a number of quiz and panel-show formats clearly inspired by British TV, but on an indie RU-vid budget.

​@@andybrice2711 Well said, have some mystery biscuits :D

Yes exactly, 15 years ago Channel 4's demo might've been YA. But today it's still those same people who are now in their mid to late 30's who still tune in to the same episodes of Big bang theory as they saw 10 years ago, because it's comfortable. I honestly don't think another inbetweeners or peep show would bring younger eyes to the channel, why would they want to regress to watching adverts again. Ad blocker and youtube is all the current generation need.

Increasingly I find commercial television unwatchable mainly due to the basic format. If I see an interesting topic on RU-vid, it's usually condensed into a ~20-minute video. On TV, that same content is padded out to an hour, intercut with various other topics to keep you watching through the 15 minutes of advert breaks.

​@@andybrice2711I started watching RU-vid on x2 setting. Most programs just end up the same word speed as Brett Cooper on normal setting.

@@Simon-ku7ky you're forgetting netflix and disney plus

They're all muscling into the online space now and pushing out the small creator because nobody (With a brain) is watching the absolute garbage & lies that the mainstream TV stations pump out

@svnvijil to find the good ones.

@svnvijil Dude, it's NOTHING like it was 5 years ago, it's been sanitized by the advertisers & money men now, very watered down, trying to appeal to a mainstream audience, that's not how it started out, in 5 years time it'll be dead, watch this space

I came to the comments section to say the exact same thing. Channel 4 - the clue is in the name. Its competition when its remit was created was three other channels. Adapt or die - the problem is that the 15% layoffs will come from the production staff instead of senior management.

They remind me of the Southern TV ITV franchise circa 1981.

It went from dealing with “controversial” and taboo busting shows to middle class people in a tent baking.

@@totallybored5526 Precisely, remember things like : The Snowman, films from people like Peter Greenaway and Derek Jarman, the televised stage adaptation of Nicholas Nickleberry, Porterhouse Blues, Drop the Dead Donkey, Whose Line Is It Anyway?, After Dark, Secret History, Equinox, etc? Those were Channel 4 doing the innovative stuff - I can't remember the last time it did anything like that in recent times.

Yeah, ITV is mostly pretty weak. But it does excellent docu-dramas. What does Channel 4 even do now? Except for the news and the occasional panel show.

Completely agree, it was cutting edge and controversial back in the day. The biggest harm was the updates to the c4 on demand app which doesn't work properly on a vast number of devices. As a result I've ended up watching much less c4 shows because of this.

No, that’s that idiot, Conservative Nadeem Dorris or what other her name is I’ve deliberately spelt it wrong because she does not deserve her name typed out properly when she tried to justify to the public why it should be sold because it is not financially stable, even though they benefited the British taxpayer, £84 million per year

Just so you know, Big Brother hasn’t been on Channel 4 for at least 15 years it went to Channel 5, they got rid of it. ITV took that over so that’s not gone back to ITV and Channel 4 actually makes a profit. Everybody is being misled by retarded governments, trying to privatise everything, so they can get a piece of that pie. I do also think Channel 4 makes terrible content, but that’s not really the point they are making

Godzilla movie straight after Vic Reeves Big night Out! Great telly.

Wondered what that smell was

Channel 4s a fantastic broadcaster.

Channel 4 does some great stuff. Their news programmes is probably the best on TV.

They got captured by the radical left identity politics obsessed clowns.

Such as ?????@@craigfoulkes

Endermol sounds like an over the counter constipation medicine.

I remember someone saying something similar about the Daily Mail a while back and now I can't unsee it. There's always some kind of 'fashion' strapline just underneath the title which is usually as big as the title if not more so, and there's usually a picture of a female Royal (or other female celebrity) in the bottom righ-hand corner as well (which is usually pointing out there good/bad fashion choice).

Doesn't 'woke' (that is dog whistle pejorative) in the context you're using it indicate that you only like gay or black people in your porn collection?

No dude, MORONS & kids want Mr Beast, everyone else just wants original, honest content with no agenda attached to it

Because nowadays people don't watch linear TV & skip all ads. I'm guessing, like me, you've skipped ads on RU-vid to watch this episode!

I remember that. What a silly own-goal for C4 and Cathy Newman.

yet they dont get rid of it

Depends which bit. It's also been the only credible news outlet for the last decade+

Yes but it is more often than not the government's fault. Who was it that deregulated commercial TV in 1991 and started the ball rolling in the first place?

The public service remit is imposed on C4 by the government. I think C4 do great news as a result of it... but it does contrain them. Maybe they do need a bit of support in some form as a result?

The first two you mention were written or written/directed by a person who is persona non grata with the left and would never be allowed on Ch4 now. The range of opinions allowed on Ch4 these days would exclude a significant number of talented people. The third programme finished in 1995, 28 years ago... Channel 4 deserves to fail.

all UK television is pretty poor tbh. i was really surprised marina said the entertainment industry is one of the last things the UK does well.

I dunno they're very creative,9 out of cats does countdown is fantastic.

@@Nick-fg4dq quiz coms and game shows are meh, its entertaining but nothing groundbreaking.

@@Nick-fg4dq Channel 4 doesn't make programmes - they just commission them from production companies.

@@paulburton9386 OK commissions them,but it's a collaborative effort and they're ch4 shows.

The app is still too clunky

Unfortunately the fact that you're saying this and other people are denouncing it for being "too woke" shows they just can't win

​@@AbiSaysThings unfortunately, the fact that you're resorting to the "they get flack #OnBothSides therefore they can't win/must be doing something right" platitude is cringe. Who'd have thunk the station that brought us "Send nudes," "rate my sextape" and "Naked Attraction: for kids" might now be struggling for both viewers and advertising revenue!?

When you say 'news' do you mean propaganda & lies?

It has content that is not in line with most of the populations morality. The general public is no where near as interested in those topics as the executives of the TV channels assume. It has now got to the point where they have to disguise the content in the first episode to get people hooked before they start to unpack it. We are now in an era where a shows finishing audience is a fraction of the starting audience.

Last year's Media Bill will remove this restriction, allowing Channel 4 to make its own content

@@epicmade-zo3fc And it's just passed its Third Reading in the Commons, so things may actually start to happen!

Or even somewhere North that isn't Yorkshire (Channel 5 seems to have cornered the market in Yorkshire-themed programming)

Whats his chocoloate bar called?

Who is he?

MrBeast Bar, feastables. They have a bunch of flavours. I love the guy and want him as the entire worlds leader but I aren't recommending his chocolate. @@fh7992y0

Feastables@@fh7992y0

He is the biggest person on RU-vid@@no_one_of_that_name_here

Countdown

Would agree with It's A Sin although Derry Girls is a few years old now. I haven't watched tv for years but when i first heard of Derry Girls i thought it was on streaming. It now is. So that's not making me watch it on channel 4.

its a far cry from the 90s when they had Friends, Frasier, Father Ted, Space, graham norton etc etc that dominated friday night especially before digital, now its mostly unscripted lower production shows

@@cgdimension - but Friends and Frasier were bought in from the US at great expense (so not their shows), Spaced (I presume you meant) had 14 episodes *EVER* so was hardly a big show (it had very low ratings). Graham Norton's show was hardly a rating behemoth (it was very odd and edgy - much less tame than his BBC show); and again, Father Ted only ever had 24 episodes (and stopped airing before either Spaced or Graham Norton existed). So at best, you had 2 months of the year with the 2 big hit US shows and Father Ted on one night. Channel 4 have *continued* doing this - it's just their two big US smash hits are "smaller" than Frasier and Friends - and with the proliferation of other channels, they use E4 to put all the shows on so there is no need to watch it on one night. The Big Bang Theory & How I Met your mother for instance - the equivalent (in terms of pull) of Frasier/Friends, have 2-3 hours daily broadcast on e4, and the whole series available to stream online. The Last Leg is today's equivalent (but better) of the Graham Norton show; Derry Girls is bloody great and can easily be compared to Spaced/Father Ted in terms of small number of episodes (19) but with a great cultural impact and export; then you've got things like 8 out of cats (+ does countdown) and Friday Night Dinner. I think you are massively over-rating the 90s era of Channel 4. I'd say the mid 2000s era was way better (think Black Books, The IT Crowd, Green Wing) - the issue isn't as much nowadays Channel 4 isn't producing as much good comedy as the *UK* isn't - the best comedy on the iPlayer is Australian (Colin from Accounts); couple that with the best of the American stuff, even if it does make it's way over here, tends to be on a streaming platforms - think the Good Place, which is available on C4, but the whole show has been on netflix for years (so why would you wait for it to come out over on linear television). Other than Derry Girls, the last truly good British comedy was fleabag, which ran for only 2 seasons in 2016 and 2019.

Yes, the independent solo production youtube creator is now the bane for google. Google purposly wants bigger more professional, even mainstream production/content creators. RU-vid see the market of bigger creators to attract advertising with none of the restrictions that mainstream advertising has.

Why is he now chasing a streaming audience then?

@@patsissons4025 why is he going to tv? i would guess because he will get a lot of money upfront and knows it will fail and be cancelled very fast, then he can go back to a much much bigger audience.

@@jaimefernandez2624 Oh yeah it's for the money ofc. But I still question the term "mainstream" It's so pre 2008. Mainstream has more money only because of the corporate and emotional friction caused by advertisers and producers leaving them

Though it's utterly absurd to me that the US has a tax system which actively rewards people for destroying expensive works of art rather than allowing them to be seen by the public.

Aquaman 2 could also have been written off for tax due to AH.

@nikcrosina. I remember running home from school to watch Channel 4 start, being similar age to you. Even back then I felt the programmes for teenagers were aimed at late twenties who had not grown up. A couple of years earlier, my geography teacher was Adrian Edmondson's dad and it seemed that the programming was for Adrian's age group, not mine, or missed the point by talking down to the kids. I always wondered what became of the show "Little Armadillos"?

Spot on. Love RU-vid for the very reasons you stated

@@fanfeck2844 A good portion of the few RU-vid channels I subscribe to have given up or are leaving, because they say "RU-vid wants them just to do shorts" and they are "not getting the money they would have under amended rules". The more documentary type channel say they can "no longer show anything interesting without crossing guidelines". Some just stopped posting. All say they feel RU-vid "wants to be TikTok" and they are "looking to move platforms" or "I had to put the full video on Patreon" though others "do not like some of the content" on that. The general feeling seems to be "RU-vid is moving in the wrong direction for the audience". Note, I am just repeating what I heard.

All the TV 'presenter' weirdos are moving online now cos they know TV is as dead as the dodo and they're desperate for attention

Film 4 as a production house has helped release some incredible films recently. It’s still going strong !

Their online player is terrible! There’s no wonder that no one is watching it.

The C4 catch-up service is a disaster. Unwatchable.

But their public remit is just "the provision of a range of high quality and diverse programming" (Section 265 of the Communications Act 2003). They used to have actual remits where they were required to provide a certain number of hours a week on specific subjects, but that was all scrapped a long time ago (they complained that being required to produce TV that nobody wanted to watch was killing them, which was true).

Think this refers to Marina's statement at the timestamp implying only C4 & BBC have a public service remit, and ITV does not. Seems like a muddling of PSBs & public ownership@@thomasdalton1508

Ch4 news is propaganda for leftist kids.