Will Grass Grow In FULL SHADE?? // Dense Shade Testing + Seeding Blankets

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I finally have a full shade area of the new property to test some of my elite cool season grass seeds in dense shade.
Should you really plant bluegrass in dense shade? Not likely but I like to know for sure exactly how something will react to different conditions and see it with my own eyes. I also show you some other updates and add a few seeding blankets to some of the new test plots to make sure the grass seed stays in place.
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@ryanknorrlawncare Год назад

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@hd1ab1 Год назад

I've been watching you for a little over a year and have learned a lot about lawns. I'm in Maryland, zone 7 and picked up the Soil RX kit under your discount code and WOW, who knew. We struggle with neighbors on 3 sides who have Japanese stilt grass. Over the last 2-3 years we've eliminated quite a bit but still struggle to have some areas on our 1 acre wooded lot improve. The soil test showed we had low PH and low in phosphorus, not that that will eliminate the stilt grass (chemicals are our friends😉), but I'm so encouraged that we're finally going to get some better results with improved soil. We put down lime today and will use a starter fertilizer with high phosphorus when we overseed in the next week or two. We're trying to get a lawn of turf type tall fescue. Thanks for the content you put out, the explanations and your video on the soil test kit. I might never have done a soil test without that video. Here's hoping we get the results we're longing for. Also, we put in irrigation last year to improve our chances, so that part is already done. Also, congratulations on the new build. We built our house 36 years ago. It's magical!!

@TopTierLawnCareServices Год назад

Those yellow flowers are tickseed sunflower, I planted them in my yard. They are a great visual cue for when to plant grass seed, when they get to peak or just before peak bloom is the perfect time to plant grass seed.

@tracyaynes5230 Год назад

Ryan I can just imagine how beautiful you are going to have your property looking in just a couple more years. I'm sure it will be completely transformed. Keep up the Great work 👍

@fescueme1081 Год назад

My parkway has very dense shade under two maple trees. From May until the leaves fall it gets the least amount of sun. I put down GTO, 4th Millenium and Valkarie LS. Aside from the trees battling the grass for water, it doesn’t thin out too badly, requiring a little seed in the fall.

@christopherhershey2759 Год назад

I had the same spreader issue when fertilizing, and used Great Stuff gap filler. It worked perfectly to fill the space, however still left lines due to the granules hitting the wheel. Scrapped the spreader and upgraded.

@eXcRaiNmaN Год назад

Last year I looked up ideas for covering the insides of the Scott's mini wheels... There are some creative ones out there. Saw a cool one where they used one of those cheap pie pan/tin things. Shouldn't be too complicated though yeah 👍🏻

@GrassDaddy Год назад

Well here's the deal. If you plan to plant it in the shade in the spring YOU GOTTA WATER IT DURING THE DROUGHT. I did not, I got busy and forgot until it was too late :(

@trevormuggeridge4560 Год назад

Great advice, looking forward to your next video mate 🤠

@patricksquires6348 Год назад

Thanks for the vid! Hostas in shade garden. Aka salad bar for the deer.

@Overpar73 Год назад

Looking forward to the results of the shade mix? I'm getting ready to aerate and overseen this weekend!

@stang55 Год назад

Hey I had the same issue with my spreader. I used cardboard at first to block off the wheels but found spray foam works best!

@yoko180 Год назад

For the drop spreader wheels you can try some foaming gap/crack filler and then trim off any excess with a razor knife after it dries.

@luckypete33 Год назад

Love the tan line on arms

@jfarm_1311 Год назад

More plots. Yes!!!

@05hdmike Год назад

try taping a piece of cardboad on the inside of the wheel. cheap and easy

@americanpatriot4080 Год назад

Nice farmers tan bro!

@zarethd Год назад

That raking sound at 11:44 sounds EXACTLY like someone eating crunchy cereal, you should be a foley artist

@iowapipe Год назад

filling your wheels: low expansion foam like you would use around windows/doors. (which you may have on hand) Use a razor knife to cut level with the side. quick and easy.

@camt.8705 Год назад

Going through this myself. Planted some fine fescue from outsidepride. Would have bought yours but I only needed enough for 800 sq ft. I'm on day 4 and still no germination. Biting my nails. And of course, we also had a heavy thunderstorm early yesterday that was NOT in the forecast. 😂

@DaivG Год назад

I have a section of grass that's so shady that moss flourishes no matter what I do. Looking forward to your dense shade testing results as time goes on.

@saiiiiiii1 Год назад

Poa supina is by far the most shade tolerant grass. If this doesn't grow, there's no chance

@allensadicario5196 Год назад

Looking good brother

@mikemorosky3765 Год назад

Had the same issue with the tires on my spreader. I just used duct tape and it’s been holding up well.

@Hunter_B13 Год назад

This is great I just put down the super shade blend from United Seed in the back yard after building a retaining wall. Almost full shade in SE Tennessee. Should be a good test. Great stuff as always Ryan!

@Johnny53kgb-nsa Год назад

Which shade blend did you get from United Seed? I bought their tttf seed, their 4'th. millennium and Valkyrie LS. I've had good results using United Seed, last year I had germination in 5 day's starting. Thanks, John

@Hunter_B13 Год назад

I went with the super shade mix.

@rustyfan89 Месяц назад

I love the camp area! I have an area similar but it’s only 2500 sq ft., I think I’m gonna just plant wildflower mix

@nicole79804 Год назад

Love the video new subbie I'm here to learn 😁

@fredperry8859 Год назад

For the spreader wheel stripe problem, I cut a cardboard circle the size of the inner wheel and poked holes in it to use zip-ties to attach it to the wheel. It has worked out well for reducing the issue. Simple & cheep.

@jimmaul Год назад

This is exactly what i did on mine. Held up for a while until i got rid of the spreader completely.

@fredperry8859 Год назад

@@jimmaul yes, I strictly use mine for seeding now, so as I don’t have to wash it down. I’ve purchased another larger solid tire spreader for fertilizer applications.

@jeffgermann7547 2 месяца назад

Maybe some expanding foam for your spreaders wheels.

@1Nevergone Год назад

Used that same blanket for my backyard reno this past spring and it worked really well.

@jeremyphillips3828 Год назад

Did you pull the blanket up after a couple weeks or did you leave it down?

@1Nevergone Год назад

@@jeremyphillips3828 we pulled it up once the grass had started growing in. We had it down for 20 days I believe and then we pulled it up.

@jeremyphillips3828 Год назад

I've had mine down for 10 days and most of the grass under it is 2 inches tall or more. I had to lift some areas so it wouldn't be hard to pull up. I'm wondering if I take it off now, will the heat affect the grass growing. I'm in south/west Missouri.

@1Nevergone Год назад

@@jeremyphillips3828 like I mentioned we had ours on for 21 days and the grass was a good four or five inches and even when we pull out the blanket it really didn't pull up the grass. Obviously you just need to be nice and slow when you do it but we had no issue.

@jeremyphillips3828 Год назад

Thank you.

@johnholm8175 Год назад

Quite the farmer’s tan you have going there

@LawnDad Год назад

You will have a ton of grass to mow. Mowin’ every day! 🤪

@ryanknorrlawncare Год назад

I pretty much mow every day as it is. Nothing new there

@LawnDad Год назад

@@ryanknorrlawncare, yes yes you’re correct. Let me reword that, you will be mowing day and night now. Gotta have some good flood lights on all mowers.

@douglasauruss Год назад

Ok which song is used at the beginning? Really like it. Not finding it reality in the Spotify list

@terrywatts1060 Год назад

I've been waiting

@thetommantom Год назад

Sometimes if you do a little bit of everything everywhere you'll just end up taking on so much and probably surprise you how much more you end up doing than expected just like stuff is too good and everything is doing so well you might as well just keep going and going

@MrJrobb182 Год назад

So the newly seeded area at the end of the video was only going watered by rain?

@kickingrassdiy3432 Год назад

Hey Ryan I’m not sure but maybe you could just turn the wheels around on that spreader. It would look funny but hey whatever works right.

@criscristofferson7381 Год назад

Always mind boggling that all of the companies that give RK some crazy, awesome, expensive equipment, no high end spreader company has reached out to him??? 🤔

@evank2035 Год назад

The deer are going to love the hostas. Look into oakleaf hydrangea, astilbe, brunnera, and ferns for rabbit and deer resistance in your shade garden

@ryanknorrlawncare Год назад

Will do 👍

@sbernhard83 Год назад

@@colnathanrjessup687 Based on my personal experience with deer in the northern Virginia suburbs, yes. We don’t have rabbits, but the deer demolish our hostas unless we apply stinky animal repellent granules on them.

@Sean-76lt Год назад

Maybe spray some expanding foam inside those wheel nooks

@_frivolousteddy_5924 Год назад

Are you using the “elite shade mix” offered on your site? I was wanting to see how good it was in heavily shaded areas

@ryanknorrlawncare Год назад

Yep the area I showed with the leaves in this video is that seed

@ea7654 Год назад

Ryan what’s the link of the mower you used in this video

@kristinLB Год назад

I want to know if you can grow grass with moles. I’m renting and there’s miles and they won’t eat the poison and I’m not going to use a death trap.

@MJorgy5 Год назад

You could dominate the ASMR Cricket channel. C'mon, Fall! ..But not too fast..

@johnm.5346 Год назад

Tin pie plates work to act as a filler on the spreader wheels, little more durable than cardboard

@baxte118 Год назад

I think I’ve seen people use cardboard disks to cover the hollow space in the wheels on the spreader

@benjaminarguin956 Год назад

Maybe some insulation spray foam to fill the inside of that tire up? Then saw it flush and clean

@Mannyfresh_ Год назад

Sheesh that farmers tan ain’t no joke.

@gary_neilson1896 Год назад

I definitely think you should build at least one golf hole. A tee box, fairway / rough, and putting green.

@ryanknorrlawncare Год назад

Already planned on it

@tycurtin7565 Год назад

YAY

@FreedomRock44 Год назад

Yeah you have leaves down already also!!!!! Maples????

@ThatZombieLife Год назад

Ryan that farmers tan brother

@ryanknorrlawncare Год назад

I'm a farmer....of grass

@DubiousHandiwork Год назад

I noticed you have a side discharge on that mower hooked up to the back, are there universal ones I can get for mine? I think I have a Toro and it was a gift so it didn't have any kind of extras with it and no flap on the main housing to side discharge the clippings. Where should I go for something like that and or should I just mulch it? I only plan to use it on a lawn of new seed. Any thoughts?

@ryanknorrlawncare Год назад

It's probably a super recycler which doesn't have side discharge. Mulching is fine as long as the grass doesn't get too long where it's clumping

@mrkormelink15 Год назад

I’ve seen a hack for the Scott’s spreader where people put aluminum disposable pie plates on the inside.

@nemesis256 Год назад

I did that with mine, I still get stripes with fertilizer just because it hits the plates and drops. It may vary based on the prill size and rate that it comes out. I'm still experimenting with it to try to not get stripes. My theory is lower rate but make tighter passes might help.

@mrkormelink15 Год назад

@@nemesis256 yea I had it years ago and cut my losses to upgrade to the elite spreader. I see the pie plate trick after I had already made the change.

@cjvx7208 Год назад

To wheel upgrade diameter needs to be 8 inches instead of 13in, 13 in is too high which makes fertilizer or any product hit the wheels and fall straight down

@TitleWaive1 Год назад

Haven't heard you talk much about birds eating your seed. I just overseeded and I have a flock of birds enjoying my seed.

@Palacemalicee Год назад

Ryan, if I buy your perennial what are the ideal temps to over seed in? Like what’s the hottest temp it should get in the day?

@ryanknorrlawncare Год назад

I don't worry much about the high temps as long as it's not 75 every night and humid. We're still in the low 90s

@Palacemalicee Год назад

@@ryanknorrlawncare thank you lots. Here in AZ it’ll be 90 in the day in October when I seed then 50-60’s at night

@MKultrapdx Год назад

I have an area under some very large oregon pine trees that is very shady most the day. I only have grass in this area in spring. After that you can see the areas that die off follow the shades outline. What do you suggest for this location? (The shade seed you are selling?) Edit: does the pine tree needles and cones mess up the PH? I tested it last year and it was difficult to get a solid reading with them soil test kits from the local home improvement store.

@ryanknorrlawncare Год назад

This is the shade seed showed in the video ryanknorrlawncare.com/product/ryan-knorr-lawn-care-elite-shade/

@MKultrapdx Год назад

@@ryanknorrlawncare So this is good for the PACNW? Thank you for your help on this matter. I tried the shade mix sold at THD and it didn't hold up.

@ryanknorrlawncare Год назад

@@MKultrapdx yep it will work there

@dylan8285 Год назад

Best off just making it a bed bc you will never have good grass under a pine tree, even if you put seed every year its really just a waste

@juststeve9459 Год назад

Ryan…when can we set an update on the housing construction? Opening of this video glanced a distant shot.

@ryanknorrlawncare Год назад

ru-vid.com - 5 episodes here

@Monarch15w Год назад

Can you put Kentucky blue grass in shade area where it is mostly shade? Or should I look to putting in a rye grass…currently I think I have Kentucky blue grass there but it is really thin…should I just apply a heavy overseen and should it be ok? It does grow about as even as the sunnier areas just real thin.

@Piccolo_Re Год назад

There are certain brands of KBG that do excellent in the shade; the only problem with KBG is how long it takes to germinate. All the pros I have spoken with told me not to use KBG seed, and that KBG sod is pretty much the only way for the grass type to survive.

@-What-are-your-thoughts Год назад

Another mower change??? Is there another Reel brand on the way???

@velcroman11 Год назад

Zoysia will grow in 70% shade. That’s why we have it.

@IsaiahsBabyDaddy Год назад

I noticed that the Ryan Knorr Lawn Care Elite Shade does not use any tall fescue. Essentially every resource I have personally read says TTTF is better than both Rye and Bluegrass in this situation. Can someone help me understand the thought process here. Thanks

@ryanknorrlawncare Год назад

Tttf and fine fescue don't pair well together because they look much different and have a texture that doesn't match. There are certain cultivars of bluegrass and rye that have been tested to better in shade and are also similar texture to the fine fescues. They make up a small percentage of the bag as well.

@IsaiahsBabyDaddy Год назад

@@ryanknorrlawncare ty!

@Steve_MP5 Год назад

Spray foam in the wheel.

@mikegreene7437 Год назад

Wish you had smaller bags of seed. I only have 2000 Sq ft and don't need 25 lbs lol. But everything looks great 👍

@ryanknorrlawncare Год назад

Which grass type do you need?

@MKultrapdx Год назад

Yeah 25lbs would last me longer then the viability of the seed. Ha

@mikegreene7437 Год назад

@@ryanknorrlawncare I was looking into your Rye/Kbg mix.

@Palacemalicee Год назад

@@ryanknorrlawncare yes sell smaller bags! I haven’t purchased because it’s way too much seed for what I need. Perennial specifically

@ryanknorrlawncare Год назад

@@Palacemalicee we carry the grand slam in multiple sizes

@FreedomRock44 Год назад

Have your water if it will be used as Drinking water tested for PFOAS!!!!!!

@ChefDevo1776 Год назад

Bro- take your shirt off every once in a while. Your tan line game is strong 😂😂. Takes one to know one 😂😂

@trevormuggeridge4560 Год назад

First Aussie 😁

@A-Kings-Cut Год назад

👍🏻🌱

@Hunter_B13 Год назад

Woo first in

@cschmitty75 Год назад

Maybe the wheel could be flipped so the lip is on the outside?

@ryanknorrlawncare Год назад

I'll look into that and see

@strickstrick2005 Год назад

Close to first

@TheAMVDJ Год назад

You can grow grass in your closet. The trick is making it survive

@robsolo4024 Год назад

Yes but usually never stays Thick

@DaveAtUofL Год назад

Ryan, so the reason why that blanket is different than you are used to, is because it's not straw. It's a wood based product. It's generally a little more expensive, but won't have any seed friends in the mix. I love them. Just take em off like you usually do don't leave em out. You can usually get 2 or more uses out of them if you've got something else to throw em on when you are done.

@ryanknorrlawncare Год назад

Yeah I knew it was wood but it's just no my favorite haha

@DaveAtUofL Год назад

@@ryanknorrlawncare Haha yeah I get it. I've got a dedicated set of fabric scissors that I use on it. What I like about it is probably what a lot of folks don't like with it. It's got much more 3D profile, it stands up off the ground a little better than normal straw blankets, which allows some airflow around the top of the ground, but it also acts to slow down water/rain so it helps soften hard rains so you get less run off. It also makes it a little more difficult for birds to get to exposed seed, and they don't like going in it for a meal. it also allows more light through to the canopy. Now you do have to be proactive to get it off the turf once it starts to stick up through the blanket otherwise that complex nest of wood fibers can get the grass blades bound in it and it can result in you pulling up your new grass. Anyways, cheers!

@colty7764 Год назад

you have to rake the leaves consistently for it to thrive in shade. Also cut all grass at no lower than 2 in (I cut mine at max height)... the roots will grow deeper and be more drought resistant. When you cut too short, all the energy the grass expends on regrowing blades.