What happens when we use a PCIe to PCI adapter with a GT 1030 and RTX 3080!? Terrible things, that's what! See Craft Computing's full bit about this card over at: • Asus Saves NUCs (Kinda...
This is top-tier jank, and you really put it through its paces. The degree of backwards compatibility built into modern standards that allows for these kinds of shenanigans never ceases to amaze me. Great vid, hope to see more from you.
Related, a few things I learned recently: * There was a PCI (not e) variant of the Nvidia GT 610, a Direct X 12 (sorta) capable card. * Drivers are available for Windows XP for that card * Those drivers can be modified to run on Windows 2000 Which makes me wonder; Windows 2000 minimum spec is a 486, could you run a PCI GT 610 with a 486? If not, what's the actual minimum?
This is entirely news to me! Thanks for the info. I just added a Zotac GT 610 PCI to my watch list, something I'll purchase probably later this year to do wacky testing with. Also, Windows XP can also run on a 486, albeit... terribly. When I saw it done, boot times were about 40 minutes, and not a whole lot was usable afterwards!
this should be a definite go to video for this topic I finished watching satisfied how you worked all of this out! never thought I'd be having a question like this until brought up!
Honestly amazed it performed as well as it did. How about using a PCIe to PCI adapter and plugging the PCI to PCIe adapter to that on a newer platform?
I've considered it. I have both adapters in my inventory (multiple PCIe to PCI adapters in fact!) I may run this test as part of a follow up video in the next couple weeks. I've already got some weird jankie stuff in mind, so stay tuned ;)
Based on my knowledge of how PCI and PCIe work, I always figured this was possible. Hats off for making it work! Now do the opposite and shove a PCI GeForce 4 MX4000 in a PCIE slot with a modern CPU 😉
Looks like RU-vid ate my other reply here... womp womp :( Anywho, I've been searching around for a AGP to PCI/PCIe adapter as those also existed, and then want to test out one of my Voodoo 5 5500 cards on a modern rig. Alternatively, I could just get the PCI version of the 5500 and just own another one of them! In the meantime, I do have a Voodoo 3 PCI card that I could try out though.
No worries, there will be new Jankinator content very VERY soon! New hardware arrived a few days ago and is currently in testing. I'll have more details on the exact hardware in the video with close up shots :)
I just love testing and get the most out of old tech and this is exactly what I need I have lots to say but I can just share a litte bit that I currently got a AMD HD5450 with a PCI interface (I know the HD5450 is PCIe 2.0 x16) but this one is a PCI version, it worked fine, handle 1080p 60Hz well, some basic tasks as browsing, watching youtube is fine, render some light web contents ok
While not that EXACT GPU, my next video will be featuring one from almost that exact same generation, with even more janky shenanigans. In fact, while typing this, I just got the shipping notification that it just arrived in my mailbox! -leaves to go get mail-
From a service and retro tech stand point the fact that you got this working reliably is big. it is getting more difficult to find PCI or AGP video cards; however a good low spec PCIe card is fairly easy to come by. On the Server\Workstation side; did anyone ever build a PCI-X\PCIe adapter?
Looks like StarTech made a PCI-X / PCIe adapter and it is even x4 on the PCIe side. I MIGHT have one server in storage with PCI-X interface to test something like this in down the road. Its a really old HP server that has dual sockets, 1 core per socket, 32-bit CPUs, and uses SCSI drives!
"slow" ethernet really wasn't much of an issue, honestly. The NIC was never saturated. If it were, I would have dropped one of my 10gbe NICs into it (the iSCSI server is 40gbe). As far as RAM, if I had a pair of 2GB sticks, I would have most certainly tested it! There are also hex-core Phenoms which I do believe this board supports, but again, hardware not in my collection. This was mostly just a quick "what can I lazily throw together with hardware on hand"
@circuitrewind I upgraded from a 4 core Phenom II to a 6 core FX. Ran a ton of benchmarks on both and at best saw a 5% improvement. Some single thread tests were slightly slower. Software HEVC encoding went up 1 FPS. The best improvement was with audio encoding to 320K MP3 with Format Factory. It can use multiple cores to encode several files simultaneously and it preserves embedded tag data. Now I have a Ryzen 5 3600 with 32gig DDR4 and a 1tb WD Black NVME.
I tired Vulkan off-camera, and it actually got half the framerate! So that's why it is OpenGL on camera. I know, I'm totally shocked about this too, considering the optimizations in Vulkan, but due to this janky setup, something about it Vulkan really REALLY doesn't like. Might be due to the extremely limited bandwidth between CPU / System RAM and the GPU when Vulkan is trying to make multi-threading calls, and getting stuck in locking contentions.
