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Will NeRFs Replace Photogrammetry? - Computer Vision Decoded Ep. 6 

EveryPoint
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@HammerdownProtocol
@HammerdownProtocol Год назад
I think I've just found the solution for an ambitious Unreal 5 cinematic project, that was, until about 10 minutes ago impossible for one man to produce. Thank you for the insights.
@kevindelnoye9641
@kevindelnoye9641 Год назад
Seems like nerfs could really benefit from transfer learning. On 2d object detection you can train a decent model with 100 images with good pretrained weights. I guess with common scenes sky/tree/house patterns can easily be learned
@EveryPoint
@EveryPoint Год назад
There is a large opportunity for optimization. We imagine different NeRF methods could be optimized for different use cases.
@Gerhard_Schroeder
@Gerhard_Schroeder Год назад
Started also with the TI 59 :)
@MechanicalWhispers
@MechanicalWhispers Год назад
@EveryPoint Is this good enough to export a series of frames that could be used for photogrammetry? As if you didn't get enough data on site for whatever reason, and you could use this to fill in the blanks, so to speak?
@EveryPoint
@EveryPoint Год назад
Unsure if that’s possible. We would need to test that theory. However, Nvidia do have nvdiffrec that neurally renders geometry and PBR textures. That may be the answer
@nicolasportu
@nicolasportu Год назад
Export Nerf as Gtlf. That should be the goal.
@EveryPoint
@EveryPoint Год назад
Should it? Or should software and hardware systems catch up to this technology where the Gltf format can't replicate what a NeRF can visualize? As Matt's first statement said: NeRFs are not meshes.
@nicolasportu
@nicolasportu Год назад
@@EveryPoint that's a harder but good alternative I can say... I bet my money on the first one :)
@trumpsaloser
@trumpsaloser Год назад
So I work in film and VFX, would this method work for creating a 3D render of a city to be used in a production lets say for use in "Unreal Engine or another 3D program?
@EveryPoint
@EveryPoint Год назад
Eventually NeRFs could be used in this manner. The tools to interact between NeRFs and game engines/animation software is yet to be developed.
@JAYg33t4r
@JAYg33t4r Год назад
@@EveryPoint Adobe Substance has the python API and nodes to allow an AI to generate 3d assets and textures. This is what I'm researching for this software which led me here....
@JAYg33t4r
@JAYg33t4r Год назад
Also Blenders Geometry Nodes could be used
@JasonSipe16
@JasonSipe16 Год назад
Luma AI now has a UE5 plugin. Excellent video, btw! Thanks!
@jag24x
@jag24x Год назад
Will nerf produce a video of the same resolution the images were in?
@EveryPoint
@EveryPoint Год назад
That is an option. We find that matching the output video resolution to the source imagery works well. However, overall most NeRF output is a little "fuzzier" than real life.
@gelezko
@gelezko Год назад
Hi @EveryPoint. Its still not 100% clear if nerf is ready for commercials. How to start with own 3d games/walking experience. May i ask you to make some video/post explaining which instruments are free to use/commercials ready and which are not.
@esad0
@esad0 Год назад
Greatt
@monstercameron
@monstercameron Год назад
Nerf studio for pytorch MPS please!
@EveryPoint
@EveryPoint Год назад
Jump on the Nerfstudio Discord and ask about it!
@Th3Shooter
@Th3Shooter Год назад
Thank you for this great interview!! what's the discord server?
@EveryPoint
@EveryPoint Год назад
Here is an invite link: discord.gg/yNMkx8Xx
@grafpez
@grafpez Год назад
@@EveryPoint this link has expired..?
@discob61350
@discob61350 Год назад
I don't think it would replace photogrammetry for commercial inspection purposes.
@EveryPoint
@EveryPoint Год назад
We do not think so either.
@TheShaunlamont
@TheShaunlamont Год назад
As soon as the word nueral, ala..think, guess, interpret, interpolates, etc is introduced, its no longer real world data.
@helicopterdriver
@helicopterdriver Год назад
Dual cameras, like binocular, would be better than single view for on the fly depth scaling? We do it all day.
@EveryPoint
@EveryPoint Год назад
Great question. Stereo pair cameras can aid in providing depth and positional data. IMUs and other technology can be leveraged as well to provide a good SLAM based camera pose output for training NeRFs.
@taher1973
@taher1973 Год назад
How close NeRF to SFS (Shape from Shade)? thank you
@TheShaunlamont
@TheShaunlamont Год назад
not close at all
@cinematic_monkey
@cinematic_monkey Год назад
Is HDR nerf possible?
@saritsotangkur2438
@saritsotangkur2438 Год назад
Technically, possible since HDR just has more precision per color channel.
@nightmisterio
@nightmisterio Год назад
I need to export the 3D model from a nerf photogrametry
@TheShaunlamont
@TheShaunlamont Год назад
dont bother, they are terrible
@nightmisterio
@nightmisterio Год назад
@@TheShaunlamont Maybe Luma AI could be good?
@Instant_Nerf
@Instant_Nerf Год назад
I went from Welder to blender.. and it went all down the rabbit hole.
@EveryPoint
@EveryPoint Год назад
Haha!
@welsonfy5246
@welsonfy5246 Год назад
Hi, thanks you Is it possible to do photogrammetry from only 4 images?
@EveryPoint
@EveryPoint Год назад
Yes, but your results would be limited.
@welsonfy5246
@welsonfy5246 Год назад
@@EveryPoint Ok thanks, with which software can I use only 4 photos please? because with RealityCapture and Agisoft Metashape it does not work
@EveryPoint
@EveryPoint Год назад
For clarification, no software can handle 4 random photos. They would need to be properly spaced with known camera information.
@pauljojo1318
@pauljojo1318 Год назад
@@welsonfy5246 I once did a test with 2 pics (Colmap +OpenMVS). Worked surprisingly well.
@welsonfy5246
@welsonfy5246 Год назад
@@pauljojo1318 Thank you for your answer, do you have a tutorial please?
@glaz.stalina
@glaz.stalina Год назад
Finaly, minecraft 2
@gisleung
@gisleung Год назад
Therefore, both photogrammetry and NERF need a set of images with known posas input. However, modern photogrammetry technology does not require high accuracy of pos, and even does not need posas input at all. What I want to ask is, does NERF require high accuracy of input attitude?
@TheShaunlamont
@TheShaunlamont Год назад
? photogrammetry and nerf both use colmap least squares type camera target translations..and photog needs much higher camera pose info than nerf does
@fhmconsulting4982
@fhmconsulting4982 Год назад
I am not sure why AI researchers seem to ignore the fundamental advantage of our species. Our ability to understand & construct complex from simple. We are trained from babies to understand basic rules for everything we see and work out what & how for everything from shapes in the cot onwards. If I dont understand something I break it down until the rules kick in. If a Nerf or meshing algorithm just applies brute force it will never be really efficient, but if it understands what a car, column or crow is it surely it will then be able to adapt a 3D library element to its surface\field far quicker in much the same way the 2d AI image generators are doing.
@EveryPoint
@EveryPoint Год назад
Semantic understanding is the way!
@TheShaunlamont
@TheShaunlamont Год назад
Qualitative and quantitative are diametrically opposed values...seeing is not measuring
@TheShaunlamont
@TheShaunlamont Год назад
No
@GhtPTR
@GhtPTR Год назад
Too long winded.
@EveryPoint
@EveryPoint Год назад
Not according to the viewer retention metrics ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@jonasmostert3294
@jonasmostert3294 Год назад
there are other videos which are shorter and more general, but i was looking exactly for this discussion and exploration. youtube is a vast landscape :) something for everyone
@bunnystrasse
@bunnystrasse Год назад
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