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I can't buy and don't really want to buy. The only really cool and unique thing about it is the improved viewfinder size. Most top end cameras have a 0.5" viewfinder, this has a 0.64" one with x1.0 magnification which is quite impressive.
As ever it is a matter of a "use case". I was loaned a 50S II and a couple of lenses for a weekend, I do lanscapes quite a lot, still shoot medium format wetfilm in 120 from time to time and was keen to see how this would go... In practical terms I decided that it wasn't for me even ignoring the price tag because the kit is way too heavy to lug around with you, best left in the studio. Also and whilst this may be resolved by future technology, there is a problem with large megapixel cameras where the sheer amount of data that needs to be moved to a memory card will inevitably mean that the camera will never be that quick etc. Finally and at the time I owned a Canon 5DS which is a 50mpx camera but I couldn't see any real difference in terms of image quality which surprised me as I had expected the Fuji 50s II with its larger pixels to outgun a full frame camera significantly, I did shoot them side by side, same shot/conditions.
Good points. This is probably why Fuji GFX had failed in the market, i.e. always stayed stuck its tiny niche, never departed from that. Similar reasons, why also already Pentax' 33x44mm DSLR had failed in the DSLR market back then. Benefits prove to be irrelevant, whereas disadvantages prove to be striking.
I won't disagree with you except for one technical point: the Fuji has way better tonality and DR than the Canon you mentioned. The lenses are probably better, too. Resolution is but one part of the equation. Just my two cents.
Interesting, since I've seen many reviews that state the GFX is the clear winner. Makes me wonder. Did you make any prints? Sometimes its hard to make a real decision when our monitors are only 8 megapixel.
@@derekmacdougall9347 To be honest I don't go in for the 'brand war' nonsense but yes I did print off a couple of images at A3 and there wasn't a clear winner. However this may be down to the lens I was given with the GFX...who knows. However my main negative about the GFX concerned ergonomics and bulk. I am old but I'm not shy of hikinging with my 1DX -2 and a selection of heavy glass but the glass for the GFX is both heavy and bulky plus rather expensive. That doesn't mean that the GFX setup would not work for other people with different priorities.
@@MobiusCoin Sorry the difference is not as dramatic. Since I posted that question, I have reviewed raw samples of the GFX100 II versus the SL3, and they are much closer than you think, because the pixel pitch is very close between the two. Very close in low light and dynamic range. The real difference is in the ultra shallow depth of field on the MF.
A beast of a camera, for sure. I wish they would ratchet down the performance and drop one in the GFX50r form factor. You gotta try that Mitakon 65/1.4 on it if you get a chance. The look is out of this world.
@@SourPlanet You know the problem with Fujfilm GFX, it is the lacking of lenses from any other lens makers. There is also lack of really fast prime lenses, long focal length zooms and primes. In context to your post is this people who use Fujifilm GFX do use and adapt a wide array of full frame lenses to cover the lack of lenses. I have GFX-100S and have 3 native GF lenses, use other lenses to cover the other focal length that is lacking in Fuji GF lens line up.
@@SourPlanet You know the problem with Fujfilm GFX, it is the lacking of lenses from any other lens makers. There is also lack of really fast prime lenses, long focal length zooms and primes. In context to your post is this people who use Fujifilm GFX do use and adapt a wide array of full frame lenses to cover the lack of lenses. I have GFX-100S and have 3 native GF lenses, use other lenses to cover the other focal length that is lacking in Fuji GF lens line up.
Off topic, I know there are multiple ways to pronounce it, but having grown up hearing it pronounced ‘Nye-kon’ my whole life, hearing ‘Nih-kon’ weirdly keeps throwing me for a loop. Considering the Japanese pronunciation is ‘Nee-kon’, it shouldn’t, and other British vs American word pronunciations only catch me off once then fade almost immediately. Dunno why this specific one doesn’t fade in my head like the rest. It’s not like Tom is doing anything wrong, he’s not and he’s fantastic. And, it’s not like the British version is mispronounced, it’s not, Nikon officially recognizes all three as correct. Oh well, my brain is weird, lol.
Haha! I'm always really concious about saying Nikon on camera for this exact reason. Another word I get people picking me up on is "bokeh". Here in the UK we have a habbit of putting "r's" in words where there isn't one. Bokeh is a word that fall in to this trap and I always end up saing "bow-ker". Accents are weird. 🤷🏻
It's temporarily a genius move tbf. Leica is considering joining them for the same reasons. If you can't keep up with the big boys in the full frame league leap frog them, and go bigger. I kind of wish Fujifilm would stop trying to compete with the full frame league with their XF cameras too - and just embrace the niche of high quality compact aps-c gear again. They have a tiny lens mount, so they could be putting out really small pocketable range finder style cameras with serviceable autofocus, rather than beefy full frame sized gear just to never even make the podium in that category.
Hey Mark - hope you're good! It was too interesting not to give a try - I thought at least. It's clearly giving mixed opinions here in the comments section though, which is always interesting to read. It's a really great camera. Would I buy it? Even if I had the money, probably not. But like I said in the video, I'm excited to see where this technology is headed. 😁
@@TomCalton yeah, I should probably get a loaner first. Have been considering it for use with the NISI Athena lenses, using the vista-vision video format.
I like the concept, but for me, full frame is still my favorite. Being able to pair my mirrorless with a new or vintage manual lens is such a rewarding photography experience. Since all the vintage glass I have my eyes on were designed for 35mm film, Full frame makes the most sense.
No, the GFX100II will not replace a full frame camera. There are a number of things you didn't mention. Firstly, the GFX100II goes down to 12 bit raw when shooting continuously. You did mention the rolling shutter, but the reason behind this is that the GFX100II sensor is not a new sensor, it is the same sensor as the GFX100/100s and Hasselblad X2D and until Sony decides to make a new sensor (Sony has announced a new medium forma sensor which could eventually filter down to the GFX, though that sensor is larger) there are going to be limitations to the read-out speed of the sensor. Also, the lenses are getting bigger than equivalent full frame sensors, and generally you do have a higher aperture. So the two fastest GFX lenses are the 55mm f/1.7 and 80mm f/1.7, which gives you an equivalent of a f/1.3 on a full frame camera, but this compares to a Nikon, Canon and even Sony having f/1.2 apertures. Another issues is the flash sync speed of the GFX100II, which is still only 1/125 of a second, which doesn't compare well to 1/250 of cameras like the R5, a7r5 and Nikon D850, even the Nikon Z9/Z8 1/200. It does even worse against the Sony a1 which has an incredible good 1/400. I am not suggesting the GFX100II is a bad camera, it really isn't, and I am in many ways a big fan of the camera. The AF is much improved, close to the X-H2 image quality is excellent. The GF lenses are great, with GF110mm f/2 is maybe the best lens I have ever used. The viewfinder is a big improvement of the GFX100s (which I have). I also love the camera in hand. But the GFX100II certainly isn't a replacement for a full frame camera, at this stage and a huge amount is going down to Sony upgrading the sensor, which does not happen very often when compared to full frame sensors.
I'm not planning on getting the GFX100II cause it has a ridiculous price tag and an unnecessary amount of pixels and features I'm not going to be using so I don't see the benefit. I am looking at upgrading my GFX 50R to a 50SII at some point next year and I'm also happy to say that it has replaced all of my full frame cameras actually. What I'm left with is a pocket friendly NEX6 setup and the 50R + a bunch of film medium format cameras. The bright lens availability issue is not an issue to me - plenty of vintage portrait lenses cover the GFX with ease and I'm used to manual focusing, haven't used AF lenses in years. Flash sync - don't care, haven't used studio lights in 10 years. Bigger viewfinder is a great real improvement and don't think any other camera has this yet. Think too many people debate every single feature in modern cameras as if the technology from 10 years ago was preventing us from getting great photography done.
Too many people focused on technology bells and whistles too much, and not enough on creating good photography. This is no revolution, the original GFX was a revolution, it actually did what no other camera did at its time. This is just adding more features. Also please stop saying that the sensor is huge, the sensor is still 44x33mm, it just has more pixels. I do really like the ergonomics of the body and am looking at the prices of GFX 50II going down so I can "upgrade" my GFX 50R, but I really wish the sensor was actually LARGER, not more pixel dense.
Fuji cannot match, or even come close to the AF of Nikon, Canon and Sony. They have made big improvements because the first cameras like the X-T1 and X-E1 had such awful AF. Not an issue for the large format GFX cameras which aren't usually used for moving targets.
Yes, indeed it will: As far as resolution and image quality go ... Fuji is king because it's medium format. But you can't expect such a camera to replace full frame cameras, even a 40 MP camera, for things like sports photography and photojournalism simply because physically, the camera handling is a clunker. It's slow, heavy, and somewhat unwieldy. But it's what you use when you need something like a mini bug Volkswagen to compete with a semi truck, and do it successfully. The only camera on the same image quality plane is a Phase One, which costs beyond ten times as much money.
No it won't. The future for mirrorless cameras is small, lighter bodies with huge processing power for AI technologies and smaller lenses. The continued drive for innovation and sensor technology improvements will mean that these 100 MP cameras will no longer be required. AI and software such as DXO, Photoshop/Lightroom and Topaz will render these cameras obsolete.
I don't believe any of this. Fujifilm is still like 5 years behind Sony in autofocus, Fujifilm could barely get autofocus working on their APS-C cameras, let alone Medium format.
How does applying Super Resolution in Lightroom or similar to a full frame image (say from a Sony A7RIII) compare to a medium format image? Can you get medium format out of a full frame this way?
I've never understood how you can release a new sensor size and call it "medium" format when it's obviously and notibly smaller than every other existing "medium" format sensor. Help me make it make sense.
2:54 "the equivalent focal length" - the focal length stays THE SAME. you're not changing the focal length by using a lens on a different sized sensor. you're changing the ANGLE of view you register
People generally know that. Equivalent focal length is just a way to communicate the angle change using units which most photographers are familiar with. The longer way to say the same thing is "this 55mm lens when mounted on the Fuji provides the same field of view as a 44mm lens on a full frame sensor."
Bought a few weeks ago and have yet to use it on a job with clients...just a test day here and there. The files are fantastic and great to retouch. The menu makes me want to jump out of a window. ps. Still have my Canon R5....but not sure I'll use more than as a backup system.
Come on PENTAX!! rise from the dead! Go mirrorless and update the 645Z. Only Fuji and Hasselblad are in the list of contending Medium formats! Although I'll never get or need medium format but I want Pentax to not be dead and succeed. I used to be Pentax guy before going Sony but always loved the Pentax shutter sound and their bodies are good
I just rewatched the whole thing and still can't believe he did that😮! Man... What if I was able to pull the EVF off my Sony A7IV and make it just as tall as my A7C? Well I guess if Sony let you do that it would be a A7CII and those @$$#0!€$ couldn't charge people another $2500 for virtually the same camera with less buttons!😮
@@Cthames123 That's easy to design on a GFX body because the body is large enough to have space for that extra connection. The point of it is also to use the EVF-TL1 tilt adapter. The APS-C cameras are so compact that it's much harder to incorporate this design.
That may be new for Fuji but it is available on a lesser known camera the Sigma L mount cameras that you have to add EVF as a separate component to the modular designed FP and FPL. MF camera from the Hasselblad that use the 102mp sensor (same as the older Fujifilm 100S and 100) has an internal 1TB storage, I hope the other camera makers can follow that or adopt a new cart type interface allow people to use standard NVE-m2 type SSD that people can buy off the shelf from a computer store.
I can do good street photography with old school manual focus camera. No need for fancy autofocus for street photography. To really see if it has good autofocus is to go and try and shoot sports or birds in flight.
I concur. For me, digital AF still has yet to beat my old Canon A-1 from the early 80's with it's split screen focus. Absolute joy and ease to know for sure what will be in exact focus for any part of my scene; In dark conditions too.
@@LogioTek " Sports and birds require nice zooms. That's a lot of extra glass weight with this sensor format." Which has what to do with my comment on AF?
@@babajaiy8246 My bad but no need to be tense. I just replied to the last person in the thread by mistake, which was you. My comment still applies to this thread because of the top comment, to which you stated "I concur."
I guess it depends on the medium photos are seen. Are not most of them watched on smartphone screens? And therefore now with higher data speeds video centric apps are dominating the photographic ones when a computer was the medium to reach the world.
It won’t replace full frame. Glass is heavy and expensive enough already and it’s not getting cheaper. Also, video is getting more a more important feature for selling hybrid cameras now.
It replaced all of my full frame cameras. And I'm talking about the GFX 50R, not even the new ones. Most of my glass is the same, cause lots of FF lenses cover the GFX sensor with no issue.
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In the film days, photography school: if it fits on 127 film then it is small format (40mm wide film, 36mm usable). Starting on a bit under 4"*5" is large format and in between medium format. This huge format sensor is small format.
such a great video, i was resesarching and eyeing the fuji gfx series but I'll have to hold off for now. It'll be nice to get into digital medium format one day. As a canon shooter, i really hope canon comes out with digita medium format, but it'll probably cost 2x the price of fuji's gfx. can't wait to watch more of your videos!
Maybe in 10, 15 or 20 years, cameras will have higher advances IA features about focus, ISO... you name it. Also, someone will notice DSLR pros, and they will be back. Imagine 5D mark V with future focus tec.
$7,500 is a pretty penny but it seems Fuji is offering a fair amount with this nieche high end camera. Can we expect better dynamic range, low light performance, and color reproduction with the larger sensor? How about overheating in video, (a problem plaguing many modern full frame sensor cameras). The camera is one cost, what about the lenses? Who makes them and can you get one you like at a decent price?
Yes, a larger sensor has better ISO and dynamic range. Just like FF is about one stop better than APS-C, MF is further almost one stop better than FF in the same regard.
The difference from a full frame to APS-C is much greater than from an MF to a full frame in terms of image quality. In general, a Full frame is better than MF in speed and focus.
I love my 100s. It’s fine for most things, but I don’t think it’ll ever replace my Sony. Def can’t afford the ii😂. I tell anyone making the move to mf….it takes months to get used to the quirks. You have to be diligent and not get discouraged…which is easy to do when you see the images when they nail focus. I’ve found using a camera stand or monopod makes a huge difference for af…continuous works great is you monitor it closely, give it a powerful modeling light and wait for it to find target. It’s not like like a Sony where it’s always on target. Takes a sec. I always explain to my model, it makes it easier on finding our rhythm. Also the different boost modes help af, I just the stand af boost and it does make a difference. But having my a7rv is key. I always have it on hand with the 50 ready to go. But it just doesn’t hit that beautiful iq that the fuj has.
Great video. Side note... This full frame equivalent math is nonsense. Medium format film has been around since 1901. Full frame was invented in the early 2000's. Meaning full frame was never a film standard and should not be treated as such.
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Thank you for the content, it just so happened that I look back to my old 25iso 6x6 films and I am amazed how teck is changing I wonder how will be a real medium format digital camera 6x6 or 6x9cm camera, I wonder if with the new tech some producer may use the lessons learned back in time and a 6x6cm sensor camera qith fix lens that weights 850g (body + lens total weight) should be awesome to make old engeneers and new engeneer speaking, Me I just like photo and I am impressed at the actual results, but I wonder what will happen in 5-10 years :)
one possible way it could replace full frame is if they do what they do with their other models and just cheap out on the body itself but keep the same sensor and remove some other specs to drop the price. If they found a way to make drop down the price to about 2-3k it would be a game changer
Hi Tom hope you are fine. I’m not a photographer, neither amateur photographer, but I’m working on it. One thing I’ve always think about is this: why camera brands don’t think that the left handed are a niche market? I mean, for most of us holding the lens with the left hand and pick the camera body with the right one, feels natural, like shooting with a rifle. But I imagine myself filming with a camera mirrored vertically and it would be rather weird. Don´t you think that this is what left handed feel like?
The factories would have to double the entire production process which would make everything more expensive. Also being right or left handed doesn't mean it's impossible to learn a specific thing with the other hand.
@@fotografalexandernikolis Sure. So why don’t we switch things like cameras, scissors, soup ladles or skil saws around and make left-handed standard. Then you’d know what you’re talking about. Yes, of course we can relearn most of the things. Right-handed Scissors for example are really hard for us to use as our normal gripping movement pushes the blades apart instead of together. Skil saws are hard to use with the left hand as the controls and guides are hard to use/see.
@@GerritADHS "Then you’d know what you’re talking about" I work in a factory where I regularly have to use tools with my left hand despite being right-handed. In many cases I'm so used to using them in my left hand that it feels weird to do with my right hand. That's what I mean when saying it's possible to learn a specific task with one specific hand, regardless of which general handedness you have. So yeah, it would be great if there also were left-handed cameras, but they would be much more expensive because the demand is lower. It's not an easy thing to do compared to e.g scissors. I also can't remember left-handed cars being common.
I hate ff cameras for heavy optics. For medium format same specs lenses are even heavier! For casual shooters, travel and street photo crop cameras are much more comfortable
Other than being excited about it as tech, I mean it's cool, I don't see what's groundbreaking about this. Why is it the future? A lot of people are clearly going smaller and lighter, and your whole channel is built on showcasing small, cheap, quirky, fun cameras. I cannot imagine someone wanting to take this out for street photography or to shoot video, 😂 just on size and weight alone. People who wanted 100mp images already had it with the earlier model. People who need speed, accuracy, or more bokeh have plenty of options at a much much lower price. Any noise performance benefit is now solved by AI tools easily. I don't get it 🤷🏻♂️ I guess Fujifilm is just having fun.
@@snappy8kthe photo part, of course totally agree but it was possible with the first GFX100. A landscape photographer obviously will really love this. I can see this as an excellent tool for professionals selling those massive glossy prints in luxury mall galleries. I only mentioned street photography because Tom did (btw if you want to see some hilarious stills, check out photos taken by the GFX in e-shutter mode). It adds nothing to the table for video, though. The X-H2 already does it all when staying in-brand and with way less crop factor mess at different settings. Others include Sony A1, A7RV, Canon ___, Nikon ___. All high res, smaller, cheaper, lighter, better tracking and reliability, lenses better designed for video, more optical reach, faster readouts, easier to mount to gimbals... It remains a landscape-centric camera no matter the generation because that is its strong suit, and there's nothing groundbreaking or insane about that. Now it just has the perks of recording video if necessary. Cool.
i get what you are saying. The tech is awesome, but the title is totally for engagement and hype. Why would this be specifically the future of mirrorless? i’ve learned to take the titles for what they are there days - strictly to get us to click.
Great informative video, really like your content. Just a comment about your model...those 'eyebrows', lol, so fake, they're not even located on the brow ridge where they should be...
The model, Alice is a beautiful female specimen. She's gorgeous! Admittedly I'm a little biased, I am a man who loves women. "But like most things in life, it's whats on the inside that counts"
Medium Format...lite is what it is. When referring to crop equations, please include aperture and ISO in those equations. I encounter a LOT of photographers that do not understand it. Camera manufacturers' marketing departments...lie by omission. Be nice if someone out there threw out a reminder now and again.
We don't have to refer to 120 format film, we can always use 127 format film as a reference, and then the 44x33mm sensors become actually medium format. It's just that most people don't remember (or know) that 135 format and 120 format aren't the only ones that existed. They're just the ones that were most popular in recent history. I also disagree with any calculations. He made a mistake there anyway. The focal length stays the same regardless of the sensor size. The aperture stays the same as well, so does depth of field. What changes is the effective angle of view.
Any recommendations for a beginner looking to take panning formula 1 pics? Budget is between £1000-£1500 and dont want something gigantic. just want a body and zoom. Guidance on a comfortable strap would be appreciated as well.
You really don't have much of a budget. The issue is finding a good camera lens combination at that price. I would be tempted to look second hand. Maybe a Nikon D500 and 200mm - 500mm f/5.6. This is an older DSLR, but it is a decent 20mp APS-C sensor, which gives you a 1.5x crop, the D500 also shoots at 10fps and the AF is really good for a DSLR. You don't get all the bells and whistles of a mirrorless camera, but you are not spending new mirrorless money, and you are getting a very good camera and lens combination. The biggest negative is if you decide to upgrade you will have to go mirrorless, though you can get an adapter if you decided to get a Nikon. A Nikon D810 might also be an option, but it isn't the fastest camera but it does have a very good 36mp APS-C sensor. Personally, I like an Optech straps (I have a modified optech sling strap). I would also maybe look at getting a monopod and maybe a Speedigimble, which allows the camera to quickly be taken off.
