New Rules, Will we Be Kicked Out Of Turkey ep1 

Thank you and let's hope we find a way. But it's not just me. Many people have the same problem It's wrong.

@@AtHomeInTurkey Please update us.

@@AtHomeInTurkey Yes, we are not free to be with the person we truly love. They make it so difficult and so expensive. My experience has taught me that we are not as free as we think we are.

Hello im really sorry to hear about the issues you're facing at present I hope you find a solution soon, but I thought a spouse and any dependants under 18 automatically are entitled to residency on basis of property owned. I know the value must be around 200 thousand United states dollars . Also after residing in the country continuously , I think for at least 5 years you automatically are entitled to citizenship? That was my understanding, am I wrong ?

I personally want to live in Italy but I am not allowed, why Europeans should have right stay in Turkey..These days it is also not possible to get visa appointment and we would let them to stay in Turkey..???

Lets hope so. Thanks!

Will be praying for successful outcome ​@@AtHomeInTurkey

Thank you so much! I hope they change it back to how it was. Because it's not just about me. I have heard of people that had to leave after being here many years. So sad.

Good vx❤5​@@AtHomeInTurkey

Maybe you should go to your home country and complain, long as you have double standards about Turk's. Your racist country is why you're in this predicament.

@@AtHomeInTurkey Sorry about this! As a Turkish, I find the changes about anything so dramatic and so head spinna ing putting all sorts of people into stress with negative impact on their lives. This is one of them. It is all changed for interests of a small group of people who rule and who make money here.

@@Tech-Corner2023 Sadly that's so true

I'm so sorry to hear this. Let's face it, the US is not doing very well either. I am so happy I did not stay there. Find yourself a rural spot and hopefully you can live without the daily madness that we see on the news. Sadly it's not going to get better soon.

love how turky is called both asia and europe Take a trip over here to bangkok /thailand..instead..cheaper safer and higher quality of life

@@gmm5550 I've been to Thailand many times, plus I lived in Phuket for 2 years, China for 10, Turkey for 4. I really got tired of Thai Immigration. I like the people in Turkey. Asia is a vast continent stretching from Turkey in the west to the far eastern countries. and has a huge variety of cultures. I've found Turkey to be far cheaper than Thailand. I've been perfectly safe in China and Turkey.

Thanks! We also hope to solve this. Leaving is bad enough, but with a person with health problems it's another story.

Wow, thank you. I will look into that. For now it won't help anymore but if we make it across this hurdle It could be an option to avoid future nonsense.

@@AtHomeInTurkey You are very welcome. We have our fingers crossed for you 😊

Great info from brianmsahin, I was going to suggest an attorney as well. I’m so sorry you are going through this . I’m a Turk living in U.S for 50 years , would love to buy property there someday but now hearing about your situation I don’t know! Good luck dear.

@@canolli2944If you have a turkish blue card none of this applies to you.

That's what we are doing. There is always a way. Here or somewhere else.

Thanks! We won't give up don't worry.

@@AtHomeInTurkey 🌹🌿🦅💙

the problem is not EU citizens , the problem are refugees in turkey .... they will be OK

It is not reciprocal!!! Turkish citizens need visa, many Europeans don’t or visa is just a joke. Türkiye should treat Europeans exactly as we treat Turks. Yes, I’m European and I hate when Europeans have unfair claims for Türkiye while EU treats Turks like rubbish.

Fingers crossed.

Turkey is moving away from the EU nations, the European Union hasn't been a honest friend of Turkey, for decades Turkey has requested to be a EU member and was constantly denied. Now Turkey will join BRICS, many more rule changers to come. European Union nations will become more isolated from the rest of the World.

Welcome aboard! And thanks!

The Turks have never been free to go to Europe in the way we can travel. But they do. All educated young Turks are leaving if they can. So sad. All that knowledge for the future lost.

You're right. But recently all the Schengen countries have shut down even the appointments for visas. I lived in Turkey for 8 years. Now I retired in Greece. And my educated Turkish friends can't visit anymore. Unless they buy this 7 day express visa for the islands. Take care and good luck.

The price of housing, the changes of regulations about renting, buying, investing started happening after the Russian operation in Ukraine. I wanted to buy in October 2022 but new regulations were coming in almost every three months, now I am out priced and I am looking into Colombia for retirement. I even learned Turkish but it's a good thing I speak Spanish too. I live in the US with dual Canadian citizenship, 2 useless countries for retiring.

Sounds like Turkey is updating its rules to match those of US and Netherlands, what’s the problem? What US expects from you as well as others, what Netherlands expects from Ken as well as others, Turkiye has the right to expect as well. It’s called reciprocity. EU and US policy makers are the reason why millions flooded across the border to Turkiye, creating the inflation and financial mess it is in. It benefits Europe as Turkish goods and services becomes cheaper due to currency exchange. With plenty of sunshine, beautiful beaches, geographic diversity, culture, food, unmatched history and places of interest, proximity to Europe, Asia, Africa and Middle East, you’d think Turkiye would be the most privileged, most expensive country to live in, yet by funding terrorist/separatists, puppet politicians, engaging in unfair trade practices, keeping the country in turmoil they’ve depreciated its real value so the usual suspects can eat, drink, travel and live for a pittance keeping the locals in cycle of poverty. It’s same all over the world, you go to Americas, Africa, Mexico, Asia you’ll find indigenous peoples who live in the most resource rich countries living paycheck to paycheck as servants who can’t enjoy the benefits of their own land, let alone retire in foreign lands whilst westerners take advantage of everything the country has to offer with just their pension. You’ll find crooked, “western educated” politicians, members of some secret society, selling the countries resources for pennies only to import them back at 20x the price as finished/value added goods. That 20x markup is also what’s funding your pension. That Nutella could easily be made for cheaper in a Black Sea town where hazelnuts are indigenous, but no, the hazelnuts has to be sold for pennies to some EU country which also import cocoa for pennies across multiple borders, they then jar it up, ship it all the way back to its origin at 20x markup. Why not bring the factories to that Black Sea or African town keeping its local population in place instead of migrating to EU for cleaning toilets?. This practice of poaching resources from its source and selling it back 20x cost is why we are where we are. Internet has made everything transparent and people are seeing discrepancies in fairness. When it comes to poaching EU is leading the pack. In Europe it’s these same people who’s countries are poached slaving away for les pay and benefits than a native would get in your service industry. I have never checked in a hotel or dined in a restaurant in EU, where from the desk person to the cleaner was not an immigrant. Never saw a Dutch/German person clean its airport toilets. Europeans seem to have an entitlement to standards of living above the migrants and aversion to low brow jobs and positions. They maintain this by artificially inflating their currencies while depreciating others. Every time a home grown politician manages to come to power, speaks self determination, economic independence, fairness in trade and equity someone decides the country is lacking “democracy and freedom” triggers insurrectionists and coup d’etat, with the West’s blessing. That level of entitlement needs to be checked. If an 80yo Turkish grandma can sell tomatoes in the bazar, gözleme by the beach to scratch a living, take care of someone at home, so can you, but it is more convenient to bring your inflated currency and live basically for nothing in someone else’s country. This level of colonial mindset is becoming more and more an irritant on local populations. This is not just a woke socialist rant, I’ve lived long enough to see how the world is rigged. People are waking up, times are changing, Africa is already braking its chains from countries like France. 500 years ago it was the east that had the wealth not the west. It think we are headed towards a reset.

@@Karakulak1071 especially Canada

Most Turkish people would be disgusted if they new. But they don't and why would they. If you don't have do deal with this you don't know.

Thanks. And yes, it is a problem for so many at the moment. Let's hope they go back to the old system. İf only for people that came here years ago.

I was thinking of the pair of you too when I saw this this morning. I hope you are all OK. Must be terrible to constantly wonder when the rules will change!

@@kimmcvitty3580 Thanks. I makes me feel for those refugees that sometimes wait years before they know what will happen to them. And they have nothing and nowhere to go.

The whole world seems to be descending into chaos , i dont see it getting any better for a long time . Call me a conspiracy nut but it looks like it is part of a evil plan to control the world .

I really would like to know how much money are we gonna lose if you and the other migrants leave my beautiful soils? In my opinion syrians, afghans, pakis, russians, ukrainians or brits... It doesn't matter how much money you're bringing. 'Cause you're taking more than you brought!!! As a retired couple in their sixties there is not a single thing you can give the Turkish people or Turkey. You rent our homes by your pounds, consuming our resources (food, water, gas, electricity etc.) Here' s the deal. Leave as soon as possible and don't worry about the Turks. We'll bring more money in our country when you left. I really hope today's government have enough balls to kick you out of Turkey, like our grandparents have done in 1923.

Unfortunately you are right. Things have changed a lot over the years.

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Canaanite ? Do you not have a new home called Israel?

​@@tuf41llol, i guess even israel has issues.

@@tuf41l Palestine 🇵🇸 ❤️

Thanks you.

Thanks. Sadly paperwork is not my strongest point haha. But we keep fighting.

So true

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@@jameswalsh2427 Sounds great!

That s why they did brexit all along to keep us in slave labour jobs here not to stop immigrants coming a disgusting disgrace

​@@jameswalsh2427Ireland has more power re visas etc...England makes it almost impossible unless you re rich of course

Wow! I don't know what to say. Just awful. The world has gone mad. This sound like a story from the US not western Europe. Thanks for sharing.

We are talking about Turkey, which is not really a European country. The UK are taking tens of thousands of illegal people in.

Dank je. We werken eraan maar zullen het pas in September zeker weten.

Thanks so much. We do our best to solve this.

That's beautiful! Thanks!

Wow, that's generous. But I can see why they do this. Just makes new rules for incoming people. Not for the ones that are here for years already.

​@@AtHomeInTurkeydon't belong to EU.

Agreed.

In the meantime, TR is immersed into Syrians and Afghans. Ik hoop het beste voor je. Grt van een Nederturk uit NL

Turkey is an apartheid country. Muslims are superior to non Muslims. Thanks but no thanks. The insult.

And collapse it will. Sadly it will get worse before it can get better.

'Most brutal way' ? Think again. I live in Berlin. More than 200,000 Turks living here. Just in one city. They all came in the last 50 years. Germany is open for EVERYONE right now. I know. That'll change soon.

​@@PeterJohanzen Please read about Ernst Reuther the legendary Gouvernor of Berlin. So you can understand the backround of the Story. And Germany is not open for everyone.

@@alisoysullu3972 Thank you. Yes, I know that Ernst Reuter has worked in Turkey and can also speak Turkish. What exactly do you mean by that? I don't think that explains that there are about 3 million Turks living in Germany, and many in the Netherlands as well. Many tens of thousands more still arrive every year.

@@PeterJohanzen, most migrants contribute to their new country if the new country’s law allows it.

Unfair it is. And by the time they make it right again because somebody wakes up, lot's of us have left.

I have a place to go. Just have to sell my home here in Turkey.

@@AtHomeInTurkey good luck 🙏🤞👍💪

Yes I agree. Something had to be done but in a normal political situation they leave the ones that are from an old system alone.

​That's what would be usually done in other countries with something like this...​@@AtHomeInTurkey

If worst came to worst could you stay on repeat tourist visas just leaving the country for a weekend or a few days in between each visa ?

@@shooster5884 If all fails we most likely end up doing something like that. 3 months in 3 months out

@@AtHomeInTurkey it would be a lot of disruption for you but hopefully it won't come to that if they allow the long-term residents to be exempt. I can't see what benefit is is to the country to expel so many people. Most are likely spending money there earned abroad..

Yes, that's why we have the van. If it comes to it I can drive off.

Yes, that's a big problem.

Exactly that. You don't feel welcome anymore. That's a big problem. Trust is gone.

I wish everybody a good life and place to live. I understand the new rules, but new rules should only involve the people that come in from that moment on. I gave up everything in Holland to go to my new forever home. Turkey. To change that after 20 years is wrong.

Thank you so much! And lets hope we find a way out.

Dank je. We gaan het zien. En de intro muziek is origineel een stuk sneller en komt van epidemicsound : A Country Sunset - Constellate

Dank je. En ja, Ken heeft er erg veel last van dat ik misschien weg moet vanwege hem. Dat doet hem geen goed.

@@AtHomeInTurkeyik zie net je kanaal en dacht toch even te reageren. Misschien een idee om met de lokale burgemeester in gesprek te gaan. Dat ze toch een uitzondering maken ivm uw partner’s situatie

Thanks! The world has gone mad, that's for sure. Let's hope we find the way out.

I know. Turkish people are very welcoming. Only at this point Turkey gets overflown with incoming people. So they have to do something. Sadly they don't exclude the ones that lived here already

Same goes for Europe. Unfortunately everything is out of control everywhere.

A world gone mad. Let's hope they help us out.

Thanks, it's just all so...How can I phrase that....Uprooting. Yes, that.

Thanks, but he also can not change the rules. Let's hope we can sort this within the rules

I hope so too. Thanks

I know,. I am ok with strong rules. Just not ok with letting someone set up a life to take it away again after 20 years. That's not correct.

With the new rules they rolled out this year that is not so easy. Plus I am not sure if that count as work or not. We can (officialy) not work as foreigners.

Crazy right? A world gone mad.

@@AtHomeInTurkey yep, just madness all around us.

Thank you so much! I never give up!

Yes I know. But if that's the case for my husband too. I don't know, but will find out if we have to go.

Sadly you are right. It will get worse before it can get better.

Yes, the world has gone mad.

That's virtually the rule for every country in the world. What are you expecting?

Yes, but that does not count for my husband. But we will see. First an answer to our problem and move on from there.

Haha It makes me feel for real refugees. They have nothing and nowhere to go.

Wow, what a horror. I am so sorry. The world has gone mad.

@@AtHomeInTurkey Unfortunately it is. My brother moved to Sweden for business purposes 7 years ago. He took his family with him. And the immigration department still hasn't issued him a residence card. Our father passed away and he could not attend the funeral. He was told that if he left the country he would never return. Now his father-in-law has Alzheimer's, his mother-in-law is in a coma, but his wife cannot come and see her parents. The woman cries every day. If they leave the country before their immigration card is issued, they cannot return. Immigration has been waiting for a decision for 3 years. I hope you find the solution you want as soon as possible.

Thanks. İf we can't stay I will explore there

Thanks!

Yes I can see why they do this. But leave the old timers alone. That would be fair.

Sadly yes. We where in the immigration process in the US ten years ago. Marriage alone is not enough. Lucky for us we went back to Turkey, our real home. In Holland it's a problem because I am not registered over-there anymore and they don't want people to be able to claim benefits that did not pay in. And I understand that.

​@@AtHomeInTurkeyaw my goodness what a mess😢

True everywhere now.

Exactly that. Even if we can stay, the feeling of being unsafe is devastating. And maybe enough to make us leave anyway.

I live close to Dalyan in the Mugla province.

Thanks. Let's hope they come back on it and let the people that are al ready here alone.

So sad. But it's no better in a lot of other places. The world has gone mad.

Sadly part of the oroblem for many people is that rentals don't count any more. İts a hous you own or steady income

@@AtHomeInTurkey Well then, I pray that God opens another door for you both!

Well done on him. I wish for all people to live and do as they want.

With all respect for you but who wants to do all that! I am 61 and ready to enjoy life instead of jumping hoops for a government. And citizenship is not an option for Dutch people. I would lose my Dutch one. I will find another country to enjoy, don't worry.

@@AtHomeInTurkey I hope everything goes well for you.

No, I don't think you can here. We will try our best. And hopefully succeed.

I agree. It's nonsense to lock people in or out with borders.

Yes, from what I hear and see Mexico is a good place to live.

Het zijn ad hok beslissingen hier, die ook net zo snel weer teruggedraaid worden. Gewoon chaos dat slachtoffers maakt.

I agree. And it wont get better soon.

@@AtHomeInTurkey sorry

Yes, its one of the places on my radar. Let's hope I don't have to contact you for more info haha

I was reading about Bulgaria for retirement too, I don't speak the language but I was even looking for the areas where they have a Turkish population. I still have another 2 years to decide, so much can happen til then.

So true. Thanks!

Not jet. If needed we will have time enough o go there and check it out.

@@AtHomeInTurkey I may know a place you can park a camper for free from around 10.1.2024 to 1.4.2025

@@Colorado18 Thanks! Let me know if and when the time comes.

Thanks! And no we don't give up. I just makes that I don't trust the future here and I hate that.

I agree but leave the ones that have been in a place for years alone

Thanks, will look into all that if we know for sure that we have to leave.

Thanks. If they make us leave we will go for 3 months in 3 months out first to have time to look into all the options. Something will come up, it always does.

Yes, it's scary everywhere at the moment.

Yes, it's so sad.

We did. I will lose my Dutch passport

​​​@@AtHomeInTurkeyDidn't know this. So Dutch can't have duel citizenship even though Turkiye recognizes it, and the u.s. doesn't have an issue with it either. Have Ken take-up Turkish citizenship. The real issue is relations between the u.s. & Turkiye are real sour right now, but I really can't blame Turkiye either.

@@smesui1799 I agree American politics is appalling. Ken is on some sort of US benefits and he will lose them. Plus we don't want to jump to all sorts of hoops. Why would we? I am accepting the fact that this is maybe not my forever home.

So true. A world gone mad.

That was the case before yes. But marriage alone is not enough anymore.

The not belonging is not a big problem for me. But it's as good as impossible to live nomadic these days. One needs to be registered somewhere. It's a world gone mad.

Your ancestors were probably illegal immigrants too at some point. Turkey kindly opened the doors for Syrians and Russians dont need a visa to Turkey since Turks don't need a visa to Russia either.

@@pellesvansl​​⁠in terms of letting in the amount of people 2% of its own population, yeah Turkey very extremely kindly opened the door. Not to mention these people have very high rates of reproducing even during the war time… It really shouldn’t be that incomprehensible that this number is a security concern of a country regardless what nationality of these people are. Besides, the term refugee differs from the term immigrant. My ancestors had never been illegal immigrants anywhere btw if your claim is pointed on me. Born and raised in Türkiye for centuries. I don’t know where yours are from.