William Massena on Patek Philippe from the 1980’s to Today | Perpetually Patek

The 1916 Company

Подписаться 158 тыс.

Просмотров 28 тыс.

50% 1

Tim Mosso and Brian Govberg sit down with William Massena of Massena LAB to discuss the modern history of Patek Philippe. Watches like the Patek Philippe Calatrava (3919) and the Chronograph (5070) set up the brand for success going into the 21st century as they began to diversify their model lines. The trio also talk about Massena’s design methodology, the modern collector, and the Annual Calendar Chronograph.
Please Subscribe:
/ @the1916company
View hundreds of hands-on luxury watch reviews at The 1916 Company Watch Reviews channel: / @the1916companywatchre...
Instagram:
/ the1916company
BUY WATCHES HERE:
www.the1916company.com
MB0187YJQMXELWV
00:00 Introduction
01:43 Patek Philippe in the 80’s
05:30 Expanding the Patek Philippe Collection
09:24 The 5070
14:05 Evolving the Brand and the 5960
15:39 The Modern Collector
22:37 Massena LAB Watches
24:58 Essential Patek Philippe Watches
27:52 Dream Patek Philippe Design
#patekphilippe #patek #calatrava #patekphillipe #massena #chronograph #swisswatch #swisswatches #luxurywatches #luxurywatch

Хобби

Опубликовано:

9 июл 2024

Ссылка:

Скачать:

Готовим ссылку...

Добавить в:

Мой плейлист

Посмотреть позже

Комментарии : 38

@johnnyguitar6697 Год назад

Old TZ'er here. Always a pleasure to see William. I was more active on the Rolex / Rolex Vintage / IWC sections than the PP one, not being a Patek owner myself. But I was always peeking on the PP forum for the sheer entertainment value of William's moderation. I will just say two words" The wart". If William reads these lines, I'm sure he'll have a chuckle.

@joshpark6407 Год назад

Massive kudos to Tim, Brian, and Watchbox team for this amazing series. Thank you for starting Perpetually Patek, and keep them coming! Really enjoying and learning lots!

@adolf-8834 Год назад

Great to see him here. I like this guy and could listen to him for hours. He is a pillar ambassador to the watch community.

@golfinguru11 Год назад

I never understood the 5070. It looks like a hockey puck, is bigger than a speedmaster (as a dress watch), has a busy dial, and a movement that doesn't fit the case. The 5170g black dial with breguet numerals is my dream modern watch. Having said that, the 5070p has certainly increased in price over the last decade. It sells for double what the gold models do. Edit: very cool that he mentions the 5370 as his favorite - it's basically the 5170g in platinum with a split. Still think it's too big, but nobody's perfect lol. As for case changes, add the tasti tondi pushers and thicken the lugs and you have perfection.

@oneal14attnet Год назад

Another wonderful episode! The richness of the narration from someone who lived that history is refreshing! Keep up the good work gents!

@zgfvavw3037 Год назад

And nice how he made “collecting in bags” ridiculous. What a great guy👍🏻

@mikemcclernon5784 Год назад

Incredibly riveting conversation I'd never be part of otherwise. Thanks!

@ShahLusso Год назад

15:41 THIS is how watch collecting should be approached IMO, buy what you like, if you get a win on a trade up then great, if not then at least you enjoyed the watch, and for the watches you really enjoy then just keep them and resale becomes irrelevant 🤷🏻‍♂ great interview overall too, its so interesting learning about the evolution of Patek, especially through the 80s & 90s :D

@Reference-ev4nu Год назад

Great episode with history of Patek from the 1980s to the modern collector. Patek is classic elegance with unique dials, movements, and finishing.

@user-ls3oz7oj3f 6 месяцев назад

Outstanding informative discussion-thank you. I’ve been lucky enough to own the 3919, 6119G and the 150 Anniversary Patek. I truly love these pieces for its very refined, elegant, and simple watch.

@HRM.H Год назад

Another killer video. Thanks guys!!

@amintaslneto Год назад

Very nice watch talk. Really appreciated Massena's wisdom about watches. Thanks Tim and Brian!

@ahmadhayat6314 5 месяцев назад

Fantastic, Fantastic, Fantastic. Give yourself a big pat on your back Tim. Beautifully crafted episode ❤💐💯

@zgfvavw3037 Год назад

“I don’t, I buy what i like”. Great answer on the investment question. Why did he even ask that.

@basselamjad958 Год назад

Appreciate the great Interviews Tim Mosso

@robertchristiandau1090 Год назад

Just fantastic thanks for the great content

@marcuslim7349 Год назад

This is one heck of a discussion. I learnt alot about the point of view of the europeans. Thanks Mosso.

@Robert.Dickson Год назад

Great episode guys. Just makes you dream that bit harder😂😂

@geezer8294 Год назад

great conversation

@YoungBrando Год назад

I know this is “Perpetually _Patek_.” But to address the elephant in the room what keeps the 5070 down is not another Patek reference. It is that other chrono Mr. Massena mentioned in passing-the Datograph. The advent of that piece made the 5070 look dated before it properly celebrated its first anniversary!

@golfinguru11 Год назад

3996 is not a patek reference, I suppose he meant the 3998. Calatravas have always been collectable (at least since the early 2000s) but mostly in bigger sizes. The 565, 570, and 2526 most notably are all 36mm, the minimum size for a modern men's watch today and therefore command the most. I don't see that changing anytime soon and therefore I just don't ever see 33mm watches catching up.

@vesperco6332 Год назад

I agree with you it could be the 3998 but I think within the context of his comment it must be the 3796

@jmartin2778 Год назад

Member of TZ for over 20 years and back in the day, my favorite sport was going to the PP forum to read posts by William roasting trolls. Between William and Sandler, there was no shortage of deep insight into watch collecting nor banning trolls. His work with the Habrings at Massena Labs is really excellent.

@noegarcia5246 6 месяцев назад

3940 is around 50k, yikes. I love how the guy says its not crazy expensive :)

@carlosoruna7174 Год назад

Ah the 80s classics

@fredWaxBeans11111 Год назад

I'm curious, what is everyone's opinion on which watch brand/model is the most, or severely "undervalued" currently? From a PURELY investment standpoint, what particular watch has plunged in price, and from a value standpoint, is considered a steal to buy now? Similar to a great company's stock, which has taken a dive because the whole stock market is down, but will be the biggest to bounce back when whole market recovers. I know nothing about watches, just recently curious about the luxury watch collecting community.

@VibrantMango Год назад

Invicta.

@CS-vv8hb Год назад

Massena Lab watches are sleepers. The Uniracer will be a classic.

@papricep6248 Год назад

It is possible to wear a sealed watch. You just need a medium amount of duct tape.

@kheyaammoseley8534 Год назад

SWISS MADE

@brucetheshark266 Год назад

Why do you include Brian Govberg in all Patek videos? He doesn’t add anything

@briangovberg5277 Год назад

For the eye candy :)

@AcmeRocket Год назад

@@briangovberg5277 😂😂👍

@bifeldman 5 месяцев назад

He calms Tim down.

@almeladze Год назад

Patek puts me asleep

@alexp3752 Год назад

Although not a patron of Patek, the 3919 remains the quintessential "power watch". simple, plain, gold, with white face and Roman numerals. Fantastic! if I owned a single Patek this would be the one! Personally, I prefer a similar timepiece, a Piaget Protocole, simple, plain and gold ultrathin that has been my constant companion for over 35 years. For me, simplicity translates into elegance, elegance embraces tradition, tradition translates into permanence, stability, and professionalism, professionalism into success, and success translates into a life well lived. By the way, if Patek puts you asleep, it will wake you up in a boardroom meeting!

@almeladze Год назад

@@alexp3752 I like simple classic watches. It's just PP puts me asleep. They're just boring. My stepfather owns 3909 from the 90s... Again, I like simple elegance - Lange, VC, Piaget... . I just fall asleep with pateks