William Osman & The Worst Part of Being A YouTuber 

But did u say us tho

Aww I was hoping it was real.

I am disappointed! You all fake RU-vidrs lie about everything 😅

It sounded DIsgUstAng

Feel better man, season change be the worst everybody gets sick.

I love it when my faves interact

@@FukaiKokoro Depends what your talking about, the people nick was talking about in his video are a minority that cares enough about them to help, or at least try to help. Considering we’re talking about constitutive criticism.

@@zillionalb462 my exact thought!

@@briansupermega5692 Dude, she's obviously understanding what Mr Osmond is talking about. It's gotta be stupidly difficult to deal with complete bullshit like that. Try not to be a twat.

Good luck on learning to deal with all of this bullshit, my dude. Ethan Klein actually had something interesting to say about all of this, it's definitely worth watching.

energy levels may be low, but you gotta keep the girlboss level up💪💅

Real

it's not a mindset, it's a grindset

@@fillyfairy2109 you caught me slippin. I agree completely. It’s a grindset for sure.

fr such an alpha epic cool pog sigma mindset

Yeah. I don’t make videos, but, as far as criticism, something that helps me personally is to think about what they said for as long as it took them to think of it. I used to cry when people called me dumb. Then, I thought about how they spent 2 seconds making that insult, and I spent hours thinking about it. So now, I would spend 2 seconds thinking about it. Basically, not worth the time. Also, I try to remember that they don’t know me. And that they have things they need to improve on too, as we all can improve and get better. That’s a part of life. Just remember, no one is perfect, not even the person who comments negatively on your videos is perfect :) also, if it gets really bad, therapy helps. P.S.: I’ve actually watched some of your videos :D I liked them, for what it’s worth (not much lmao). I also love the way you do your thumbnails. Good luck ^.^

Bingo. There are people who like to put others down, who don’t first think, “is this helpful? Is this kind? Is this wanted?” There is a big difference between constructive criticism and useless negative comments like “you were better before your house burned down.” And even with constructive criticism has to be handled tactfully. I try not to give constructive criticism unless it’s asked for. If something isn’t my favorite but isn’t hurting anyone, I try to leave it alone, especially if we are talking about an individual creator like most of the people on RU-vid.

THIS ohmygod literally 80% of my therapy sessions are me trying to accept that a LOT of internet commentors are just. bad people and hopefully not representative of the world as a whole (HOPEFULLY)

thought those were jumping cats on the wall but they turned out to be mice lol

Yes

I think it’s a personality thing. Some people it just affects more. Like Jenna marbles. She did nothing wrong and never really got hate other than trolls being assholes. She was crazy well liked. But those trolls and the same things William mentioned about wanting to do things perfectly and second guessing everything to the point where you just dread posting made the anxiety and depression it gave them a nightmare. I’m sure I’d be that way if I were a RU-vidr. And then people like Ludwig it doesn’t seem to really bother him. He just seemed to kinda brush it all off. And I’m sure Ludwig and William receive similar types and amounts of hate, if not Ludwig receiving more maybe.

@@arifike i wouldn’t say she did nothing wrong, but has clearly grown from her mistakes and feels remorse. her apology was pretty sincere, too.

@@waitwaitwaitno3182 that’s true. She definitely had some problematic stuff at the beginning. It’s been so long I’d forgotten she talked about that too. But ya she definitely addressed that stuff and changed her content to reflect her morals.

@@arifike my point exactly when we’re talking about hate, but I don’t think we’re talking about the same video because the examples nick gives in this video are mainly great and valuable constructive criticism.

I don’t think is a single video on the internet that doesn’t have a negative comment or some kind. You can show something as simple as a puppy in a costume and there will always be a few people who go to the extremes and call it abuse or something. I’ve seen the most innocent videos just get one negative reply but it gets pushed straight to the top cause people respond and argue on it which just breeds more negativity. It’s pretty impossible to escape.

Yeah, it confuses me too sometimes. I imagine it's hard for most non-trolls to understand lol. I think I can make sense of it.. it's like.. remember back in grade school, the first time you were going to ask a girl out? Did you call her or do it in person? Phone's a lot easier, isn't it? And similarly, have you ever noticed how people often avoid eye contact when they have to initiate a difficult conversation? Same kind of thing, just taken even further. It's easier to "be honest" (which in many cases means "be terrible") with someone when you aren't forced to fully realize another person's humanity, whether by proximity, by voice, or by any number of things. The internet makes that incredibly easy. You can (but definitely shouldn't) effectively decide that that person you just insulted isn't real, since you're never going to see meet them. And in a way, you'd be right: they _don't_ exist in your universe. The problem then is that people seem to forget that other people are just as human as them, and feel just as many feelings as they do. So even if the troll's victim doesn't exist in the troll's universe, the troll certainly exists in the victim's universe, since they just ruined their day with their comment. And that's the problem... a lack of empathy. That's usually the problem when you get down to it, unfortunately :/ One thing I wonder about is if younger generations are better at this stuff than older gens. For example, I'm an [older] millennial, and when I started using the internet, it generally wasn't used to communicate with people you know IRL (except for email, AIM, MSN messenger.. Very specific platforms for that). We knew that we'd never meet any of the people we talked to, and even if we did we'd never know. I'm not sure if it's possible to explain to anyone who didn't live through it, but there was a distinct notion of "internet people" and "real life people". I had internet friends, and I had IRL friends. Those two groups never had any crossover whatsoever, and to some extent, the internet people did actually feel "less real", in a certain sense. I no longer feel that way about people online; which is good, since the internet has changed a lot since then (and so have I). Anyway, I think that might contribute to people feeling like they can be assholes online, but I have no way to prove that. The internet is still fairly new in the grand scheme of things.. it'll take us a while to figure everything out. But we will! We always do. So far, anyway. Shit we are so screwed, aren't we? Edit: obviously the darker answer is pretty clear, and I'm sure you know it cause you kind of alluded to it: there's literally no consequences for saying shitty things online, at least 99.99% of the time. If you say shitty things to your friend, they'll be angry with you and eventually won't want to hang out with you anymore. So you don't. I'm just not sure how we fix that without destroying what makes the internet so great, but somebody will hopefully figure it out. I'm going to stop typing now, I clearly need sleep!

it took a long time to learn to accept criticism for my art, but im glad i can now. the way ive always seen it is that its only criticism if you can offer help or advice to fix it, and its just an insult if you cant. telling me my anatomy looks weird but not giving me advice on how to make it better (ie, hands are too small) is just an insult, not criticism

Exactly! I remember seeing this long post on tumblr about how 'constructive criticism' on fanfics is essentially only negative and opinionated, so much so that many fic authors just stop writing altogether, even outside of fics

Everybody wants to be a critic but won't learn how to critique

The criticism that sparked his "consent for criticism" point was the textbook definition of good constructive feedback. He even used the compliment sandwich technique. Literally all he said was the skits could stand to be more concise. He also said it in the context of a discord specifically for small content creators. And nick was surprised that constructive criticism was posted in that discord?

@@rooty which is totally valid. The actual criticism I have no problem with but the consent of criticism. You should always ask: "hey, I saw your videos and I was wondering if I could offer some constructive criticism" before you actually lay down the criticism otherwise it can be taken as a jab or an insult. We also don't know word for word what the guy said and if Nick is paraphrasing the critique and it was harsher or softer than he depicted it. Either way, you should always ask before giving a critique, unless when someone posts it they say: "critique welcome". Sometimes people aren't in the right head space all the time to accept criticism from strangers.

I agree with you. But in the name of self preservation, one of those will occur before the other. We will never be able to eliminate negative comments, as long as jaded cowardly people exist.

I think that's the big thing. If you want some positive supportive audience you have to put out positive supportive content. Model the behavior you expect. Strange to expect fans who tune in to you ranting against others content to suddenly show restraint when you're feeling sensitive.

Isn’t even more entitled to be the one asking others to not express their opinions or critique on your channel? Don’t think the main exemple nick gives the people are doing anything wrong or to entitled.

It's sooo weird to see the amount of petty hate creators with a mostly adult audience get. This type of behavior is very clear on tiktok, often when something goes unintentionally viral through negative attention, like the whole couch guy thing, the first wave of hate is fueled by adults.

I dunno though, I'd never give unsolicited criticism to a friend. Unless I think they really need it or they are asking for it, I wouldn't give it.

Maybe it's as simple as people are comfortable saying whatever the fuck they want.

I agree. I also think outside opinions just don't matter--particularly in creative endeavors. The art I make and am happy with is a direct expression of a part of me, so I could care less if someone else doesn't like it or thinks it could be done better. If they think that, then they have the freedom and option of doing it the way they see fit when they express themselves.

Agreed!!!

Also, wether a video is boring or not, is like up to someone subjective opinion and is usually determined by their interest. It’s silly to think if it is boring for a minority of people the video is bad or worse for that. But if your goal is to appeal to most amount of people possible start making some dar man videos bro .

You should do the complete opposite of what they suggest, or even better, do what they suggest in the worst way possible and then WHAM you don't have to get them a Christmas gift this year, you already made one for them (how thoughtful of you!).

If they always gave you positive reinforcement instead of criticism would that be better despite you still not asking for their opinion?

I was considering commenting something about that too lol. Classic negativity bias. I think Nick has said he suffers from anxiety before as someone with anxiety myself, the negativity bias made me have to quit so many different social media platform because of how much it would kickstart intrusive thoughts. I think it's very healthy for him to post a video being open about how it affects him and basically setting boundaries for himself. It's good to see.

Totally relate as an artist; you're not alone :)

This is soooo true. Especially when they ask to see it ! Like you asked to see my art just to criticize me or give me advice ?!

@@dancinglambs7236 literally THEY ASK TO SEE and then are like “the arms are weird” like ok? then don’t ask to see???

The other day in art class, I was finishing up my charcoal final drawing. A kid walked by me, pointed to it, and just said "the rib cage is too small" (for context I was drawing a skeleton) and then just walked away. The rib cage was in fact, not to small. It still hurt cause that drawing took hours of time and dude tore it apart in seconds.

You know what else is good to talk about? the fact that he starts his videos too soon. I need 1 hour of black screen before the video to mentally prepare. in all seriousness though this video was great and feelings are important.

omg i relate to this on a spiritual level... the more i read it before commenting the worse it sounds

i’ve dealt with these feelings too! it’s wild how we can get such anxiety from the ‘simplest’ things. something that helps me is time-stamping my favorite part(s) and adding a little comment about it/how much i enjoyed it/etc!

@M00N ! omg thankyou :,) !

No you're totally right! We share our art because we're happy with how we expressed ourselves. It completely dampens the feeling when someone feels the need to input comments that are neither warranted nor helpful.

i have trichotillomania too - and my friends and family have a VERY hard time not being critical with their comments about it. i know they want what’s best for me, but having my sister yell “STOP PULLING” doesn’t help. i even told a therapist about that once and they say it’s extremely unhelpful and can even cause the behavior to increase, and even after telling them that, they still have trouble not yelling at me for it. i have started exhibiting signs of dermatillomania as well so people commenting on Nick’s chapped lips also rubbed me the wrong way. I chew on my lips and pull on my cuticles a lot as an anxiety response and when people point that out, it makes me more anxious, and i chew/pull again. pointing out a flaw or abnormality is never nice no matter the intention. i’m glad someone else has a similar feeling but i’m sad that you experience it as well and it sucks that people won’t control what comes from their mouths or their hands (when typing).

i can relate to that, it wasnt about videos but i said i was happy i got like d for my final grad i think?(this was last year) and someone said “me who gets straight As… but good job!!” and that didnt really help, it felt like they were rubbing it in ig?

@@strooli_ Oh god... that doesn't sound good at all. That's like a weird version of humble brags and I hate it!

@@Sadie-rai yeah- i did not like it at all

Precisely, it's an art show (in the example), not a board meeting to discuss how best to improve a computer program

Exactly! Someone in another thread mentioned "imagine if he (Nick) had a real job and had to deal with real life assholes" like, no one should have to deal with assholes! We should all want a better future for everyone. Then we all win!

Honestly! It's a very warped mindset to think that that sort of behavior is polite or appropriate. It's very out of touch.

also just realized that this comment sounds like a discussion board post but i promise it's genuine!!!

I had to stop watching streams live because there's so many people in the chat having this kind of buddy buddy behavior it's so easy to get sucked into it from a viewer's perspective I had to force myself to take step backs. It's definitely a noticeable phenomenon. I don't know how it can be fixed to be honest. But I hope as it becomes more common, more creators will put boundaries for themselves and this behavior will be a thing of the past.

And! YOU are doing GREAT!! Keep it up! We really enjoy your stuff :)

I’ve noticed this. People on the internet are so different than irl. We need to come up with a term for internet Karen’s. Although these types can be anyone, not some middle aged white woman. But they’re the worst. They’re cowards too cos irl they ain’t like that.

True-- not to mention the different contexts as well. A lot of people seem to feel like they're entitled to being extremely nitpicky and don't often see how that can affect another human being who also hears it from others.

Dude, I so feel that, it's so uncomfortable interacting w these people lmao.

I totally feel you on the getting anxious to post thing. Plus, most of the time I feel like I don’t have anything different to say than other commenters, but I guess every positive comment counts! I also don’t get why people feel the need to go to a video just to say it was boring. If you aren’t interested in the content, maybe just don’t watch it? 🤔🤷🏼‍♀️

“Cool” as in something that I don’t normally see people talking about 😅 obviously it’s not fun, but it’s interesting to consider

Nick is great at reminding me good dudes exist. Seeing all the alpha male podcasts cropping up lately makes it easy to forget 😅

I had a cat named Zorro

I agree. The subreddit is meant for the fans, not the creator. Just like book/movie reviews are meant for other consumers, not for the creator.

i feel like an important thing to consider is that there's just so much less separation between online creators and their fans than there is for mainstream celebrities who write/act in/produce media and their fans, which creates some difficult dynamics in a society where people aren't used to creators actually seeing most of the backlash they receive. additionally, a lot of the criticism i see coming from creators' fan bases tends to be overcritical, or delivered insensitively/without any actual constructive intent behind it. ultimately, fans are completely capable of withdrawing their support of someone's content at any time they want if they're unhappy with the direction the creator is taking; i understand why that isn't the first step someone would want to take in that scenario, though, and i don't want to dismiss the value of genuinely constructive criticism entirely.

I completely agree!

aw i really appreciate that!

Having an editor, idk if he does, blows most of this away

@@loganbradford2343 does it though? he still has to maintain his own schedule and write and film videos and content

@@uncreativelex I don't get the impression these videos are scripted in the long-form

@@loganbradford2343 okay but even if you take out scripting, my point still stands

@@uncreativelex sure, maintaining your schedule is something you still gotta do I guess

Fellow, artist, can relate. Keep your head up, you're doing great and you definitely don't need anybody's opinion when it comes to art-- art is subjective and about expression, not "perfection". Imperfections are what make human society beautiful and unique.

@@yeahok8259 Definitely agree :0) Thanks for the uplifting words

P.s I like your content because you seem like a cool dude and I vibe with your takes.