Villian is never raising for value with anything worse + not many bluffs = fold (even if hand feels very strong) Making this fold saves 95bb. Do you see how folding strong hands in the right spots helps maximize your winrate?
@@1vailchris Yep that and do a lot of his floats fold out turn. People playing loose pre-flop and even on flop itself doesn't mean that they A) Won't tighten up past that B) Will actually bluff aggressively with their now way too many hands I do think it supports the leading out flop though, yeah it is weird and probably pretty unbalanced but if people are floating you light anyway got to get that value.
I wouldve lead flop or check/raise depends on how much people would bet 1 pairs for protection (pay attention). Pot bet turn and bet/fold river. I think we can still get called by 2pair, herocalls from like 88 or 7x and villains will not bluffraise this spot almost ever
is Jack-Eight of spades really that crazy? Seems like a reasonable float to me with two overs and two backdoors on that flop? Sure Hero is representing a relatively strong (made) range with that flop donk, but it seems like a really easy hand to play after that call if you don't improve. I think it's pretty clear Hero has, at worst, an overpair, so even if it's pretty speculative, when that turn brought in both a gutshot to the second nuts and the flush draw, you're in a great position to force a sigh call on the river if you make your hand.
Against one villain, it's a totally reasonable float....against 6, it is definitely a bad float because you are much more likely to run into two pairs and sets, but a lot of players will still float it.
Honestly I don’t mind it at all, as long as villain had the intention to follow through and bluff if given the opportunity. In fact it’s probably one of the best hands for this as he blocks a lot of the weird gutter straight draws his opponents might also get there with.
you're right about that. with an utg open, villian likely has at best a set. if there's any plausible story by the river, pretty good bluff spot with plenty of stack left to work with.
I'm ok with the value bet on the river. At that level I think 7x or over pairs will call. I don't think 🤔 the Q will scare this player if he wasn't scared 😨 calling J8 on the flop. It feels like you're beat when you get raised but with the odds you're getting plus the villian is splashy playing @ 2-5 I'm ok with a call.
This board actually not favors the callers. You usually not have 66 and 77, and even 67s as you stated is a 3bet, so the only practical value is 22 + ton of bluffs. Unlike 678 were the board is extremely cooridinated, 672 is just having a ton of bluffs and very little value. So I really dislike the donk, even though in this case it would've check through probably, it's not a good situation to do so, especially with bottom set were you don't block value. I completely agree with the analysis on the river.
I actually think a "splashy action player" can have a decent amount of bluffs here. Hands like 45, 56, 89, 7X, etc. know they're not good with that river bet and hero practically never has a flush. I could see an average player feeling like they "have" to bet.
The fact he’s loose and splashy means he also shows up here with value hands you don’t expect as well. So while you may be right in theory, in reality at a live 2/5 table, river raises are typically VERY unbalanced towards value, which is why we can “overfold” strong hands like this.
Some people make a good living bluffing big on scare cards. It is hard to know when to call them because sometimes they have it. In the long run, I don’t think they win, but in the short run they definitely can.
I really like your video's ever since I've found them, most videos I have found don't give a play by play. But honestly the thing I like the most is just the fact you consistently ask what were you thinking in this moment, how were you feeling? Making us actually reflect on what our plays are. Because of this it made me realize my last big loss was completly my own fault, my 3-bet was way too small and invited everyone to call. My Aces were cracked by everyone, a set of 5's (I wasn't in love with his call to begin with) and both other callers had Kings with the board running out the other two. I was beat seven ways to sunday.
I think pre-flop was fine. 3 betting 22 from OOP is just not a moneymaking play. I agree with donking on the flop, caller/hero is correct that this can check through too often. On the turn I'm going bigger, if he has 85 so be it. Since I already knew Bart was not a check-call fan, I was a bit surprised he was on board. I do think betting the river was a mistake here. I'd rather check-call. I dislike folding sets.
Pre is a fold. Flatting with multiple callers between you and the original raiser is generally bad and 3betting 22 versus an EP raise is spew flop is pretty simple at these stakes when you have a good hand to bet it. You don't need to worry about balance
@@EllieBanks333 I only play 6 max but as more players are at the table ranges should become tighter. I'm probably playing a 3bet or fold in a high rake environment. With multiple callers in-between in for sure playing 3bet or fold. My cutoff would probably be somewhere around 77 or 88. You can flat lower pairs but since I prefer 3bet or fold I'm only continuing with pairs that can 3bet
@@ChrisM-wv4gsSorry but folding pre is bad. Hero is in the SB with only BB left to act. There is $82 in the pot and its $13 to call so getting better than 5:1 in direct odds to set mine. You can only fold if BB is some maniac. Maybe you fold if you're in the field somewhere.
on river, cant look at it as "ahhh, im too strong. ill bet $200". look at it as "ok, if I bet and villain raises, whats my plan? if it puts you in a tight spot, then by all means check it over and evaluate.
Just odd because he is never supposed to be here with that hand, should have folded flop. I really dont like calling pre though to much garbage is in play.
Seems like a reasonable float to me with two overs and (more importantly) two backdoors to the nuts? Even more importantly, I think Hero turned his hand pretty face up between the opening raise and donk (and I don't think the donk was a bad play necessarily). If you make you're hand you pretty much absolutely sure you're good AND in a position to force a sigh call from an overpair or a set at the end. Villain put in the perfect bet size to get it.
