[ WIN : WHO IS NEXT ] 3화 다시보기 마침내 시작된 마지막 월말평가! 에픽하이,이하이도 평가에 참여한 가운데 긴장감이 감돌고- 과연 A팀과 B팀 중 승리하는 팀은?! 매주 금요일 밤 10시 Mnet 방송 Find more about WIN @ / win.who.is.next win.ygfamily.com
I am glad team B become iKON. Team a just belong to be Winner and Team b belong to be iKON. I can't imagine of team B become Winner. Btw I watch this because iKON. They are the first YG I stand. Saranghe iKON. Hwaiting!!!!
Team B's performance blew me away. I didn't see trainees. I saw passionate professionals rockin their performance. I know A team wins...I just hope Team B stays together and debuts soon.
Hahahahahaha I know!! I noticed too, It's his fault for opening his mouth too soon without even get to meet Team B. After he saw them I feel like he realized he messed up :'D
Im always amaze by Ikon's brotherhood..They probably make a good teamwork.. They know how to enjoy the stage with each other in group indeed.. Thats what makes Team B better than Team A.. Till now they are truly bestfriend even Bobby and June are awkward with each other but we know that they love each other.. Its sad knowing that they didnt win against Team A but at the same time im glad they become an Ikon and Chanwoo get into the group.. Im glad that they are Ikon that i love now.. Im glad that they now get what they deserve.. Btw they got their first Daesang.. Im so proud..!
This might just be me, but is anyone else a little big irritated by YG's constant comparing members to Big Bang?? Don't get me wrong, I am a huge fan of Big Bang, Winner and iKon; but the comparing is making me feel like Winner and iKon are always going to be shadowed by BB...
+thelonebassplayer i am a vip and i also hate when he compare i mean there will always be one bigbang he is like forcing them to be the next bigbang instead of letting them be themselves i am so glad that winner are original and unique and do not try to copy bigbang they said they want to be the first winner which is why i admire them..
well they will always be compared to other groups. if not big bang then others and that is the reality for all new idol groups. and that's okay because they will always be motivated to up their level or even surpass it.
Its because that dumbfuck wants to create another BigBang in hopes of the new group recieving as much popularity as them. But its a shit strategy because one cannot expect to repeat the same formula with completely different people
Big Bang is literally so huge, no matter how many achievements many groups (even other companies included) are getting, Big Bang was that group that left the mark of kpop in the whole world (yes, super junior and a few others too) but we all know why Big Bang is what it is. They were just trainees at this point and to motivate them they use/compare them. If you've seen other survival shows like this you'll know that it's all the same, the process, the training, the evaluations (just these guys have a lottt better dorms than most small company groups after debut ones) I mean yeah it's wrong to always overshadow these talented boys by BB (when tbh they are almost just like BB in terms of talent maybe even better at dancing lol) we all know that there are a few groups which are more talented than some other groups but they are always talented and tbh it's all fate who gets famous, from these shows we can see how hard they work and how the improve over time.
"... it feels as if they're singing a song that isn't theirs ..." - YG to Team A (Winner) This is because Winner's color is indeed rarely different 💙💙💙
People keep saying that team b is the next Bigbang, bigbang can't dance like that neither did they has the same music style iKon is different in their own way
idk why but I feel like Winner has more of a BigBang feel, well especially bigbang in the later years, and the music varies. But iKon - Winner and BigBang are all different.
The tarot card reader was telling the truth WINNER became one of the famous kpop group also ikon watching this show again in 2018 make me so proud the im a huge fan of this two group!
@@lizmartin6995 so you're saying at today's date WINNER is bad at making music?? Yes agreed during WIN team B was better but now ikon have their own style and WINNER have their own style in making music both are so different from each other yet so talented in today's date you cannot compare them because both the teams are totally different from each other so it's not fair to say ikon is better than WINNER or WINNER is better than ikon
@@lizmartin6995 ikon only got famous because of love scenario on the other hand winner has full discography of great songs and winner also sells more album than ikon
Wow. Reading through this comment section shows THE ESSENCE of iKON’s journey. It is a constant rollercoaster. 1. People that commented straight after WIN say they feel bad for them and hope they can debut soon. THEN 2. People that commented after their debut are happy that it actually turned out great in the end. THEN 3. People that commented around 2017 feel sad for their ‘flop of a comeback’ after being shipped off to Japan and as a result losing most of their fanbase in Korea. THEN 4. People that commented in 2018 - iKON’s year! Love Scenario, Killing Me, I’m OK, numerous awards, iKON TV... truly happy for how it turned out despite their tough journey. THEN 5. People that commented after B.I’s departure are really sad and worried about the future of iKON. THEN 6. Finally, people like me that comment after WWW and are happy to see them get back on their feet again. Kingdom starts today and we hope they will again get the recognition they deserve. I really hope number 7. on my list will be people being happy for them again after success in Kingdom and perhaps reuniting with B.I after leaving YG in 2022 :p
I think the reason Team A became the Winner is because they struggled so much in the beginning. They lost, cried, and worked even harder. That's why we felt their feelings more.
Feel glad that I watch this show after I get into iKon these days. I can't even emagine watching this show and my baby team B lose. I might broken. But since both ream are already debut, I think it's good that team B are debuted later with chanwoo ofc.
지금 보면 강승윤이야말로 빅뱅의 태양같은 느낌이다. 팀의 리더로서 작사 작곡 편곡에. 뭘 하든 팀을 먼저 생각하고 팬들이 어디가서 강승윤을 좋아한다는게 부끄럽지 않게 하려고 계속해서 노력하고 또 노력하고. 항상 열심히 하고. 진짜 강승윤은 찐이다. 이번 솔로 활동 하는거 보면서 승윤이가 얼마나 진실된 사람인지 다시 느꼈다. 강승윤 오래가자!! 위너 오래가자!! 사랑해💙
Now that I see this I get everything happens for a reason I honestly couldn't see team b as winner and now knowing they are going to be ikon it just seems meant to be!
I love how Jinhwan maintained his calm during the turmoil between June and Donghyuk. He even asks the crew not to film further. And man, I never felt so nervous seeing the two fight like that. I am a new iKonic and seeing this is just crazy. 😥😰 EDITED: *AND WHEN I THOUGHT...* *MAN I GOT PRANKED WITH JINHWAN.* HAHAHAHA.
I feel like I'm the only one who actually likes ikon more than winner.. and the rest of ikons fans are just winner stans who support them because of this show
Not at all hehe I'm an iKonic who has many Inner Circle friends, so at the time when I was only a focused VIP for years, and the fanwars started I was kind of bias of course towards Winner, so I decided to watch WIN and made an opinion by myself, after watching the whole show I was 100% sure I' was a Team B stan, but the show also made me respect and aprecciate Winner a lot. So now I'm a happy iKonic (and VIP) whose friends had to calm down and I also support Winner and IC, but IKON FOREVER :)
I've always been a fan of both groups' music but never got into them. My best told me to get into them because she LOOOVES Winner. I've always liked Ikon more by a little bit! Ikon's performance and sound is more of my taste! But watching both of them on WIN, I'm loving both more and more! :')
I'm here.. i like ikon more than winner.. they were younger than winner members.. but they were confident and did their best with great team work.. they also had fun too.. winner is also talented and that's good they win this survival. because they are elder than team b if would they lost their dreams might be ruined.. but while looking mix and match i got that how stronger and talented team b are.. and ikon is destined to have our chanwoo that's why they lost.. (sorry for my english)
Ikon and Blackpink are my everything Never apologize for your english. You showed effort to write in English and thats great! Btw I'm an iKONIC too. Im somewhat glad that team A won this. iKON wouldn't be complete without chanwoo
Palekia 95 from the comments you could say that they are predominantly fans of team a/winner but I'm watching this because I recently give in and wanted to learn more about ikon after knowing Bobby 💞 I honestly didn't want to know more about ikon since I'm OK stanning BB but I ended up watching ikonTV and then this, will watch M&M next :) I actually just saw the face behind the name Winner now :)) Although I would have to agree on the comments that not all of Team B stands out :( Song being the one with the least impact.
실력 있는 연예인들이 많은 돈을 버는게 당연하다는 생각이 든다 강승윤은 솔로앨범하면서 윈 찍고도 우승해서 위너 타이틀 따내고 바비는 쇼미랑 믹스매치 같이하면서 아이콘 따내고... 사람이 할 수 있는 최대치를 하는게 대단하게 느껴진다 성공을 위해서.. 진짜 많은 생각이 든다 이승훈은 아직까지도 윈 못본다는데 저때 얼마다 모두 간절했을까 서로 다른환경에서 자라오면서 안맞는 부분들도 많을텐데 저렇게 뭉치는거 보면 열정이 진짜 무서운것 같다... 결론 와이지 위너 아이콘이 와이지한테 잘해 트레져? 응 아니야
Team B which is iKON will surely have a beautiful performance. Having B.I as their leader and the members are so talented. They are not just a team but a brothers.
I think this whole thing was already planned that team a should be Winner and team b would be iKon. YG cannot just disband both teams because they have so much potentials.
노래 자체가 신나지가 않은데 어떻게 신나게 하라는거지 그리고 저런 힘든 서바이벌 프로그램이 있으면 애들이 쉬면서 하게 하지..저렇게 병행군도 하게 하고 스케줄도 조절하면서 하게 해주지..몸이 몸이 아닌데 저렇게 까지 하냐..물론 데뷔도 중요한데 저렇게꺼지 시키냐.. 화이팅!! 위너 사룽해용😍
Just looking at the way Jinhwan reacted when Junhoe follows Donghyuk out of the door during the prank tells me that they've fought badly before ahahahahaa~~ still love them though.
I do agree that WINNER is not as cohesive as a group in comparison to Ikon/Team B. But that's what makes them even more lovable. Imagine, from being the 'loser team' (let's face it, Team B always crushed them during WIN) to the performers that they are now, I say that the group's dynamics have improved a lot. They learned to get over their differences and patch up whatever flaws they have and along the way their talent really shone through. I admire them because of the persistence they showed me during WIN and not because how talented they are. When I look at them, I am always reminded of 5 boys with high hopes and dreams that were never dimmed (yes, they let the harsh words get to them but it never stopped them from being WINNER) despite all the harsh words and obstacles they went through. Another thing about WINNER is their individuality. To be honest when I watched this show, no one from Team B except double B stood out, I couldn't even memorize them, not until I watched M&M, on the contrary everything that Team A does is quite memorable, even to Jinwoo forgetting his lyrics. Even their vocals, dancing and rapping are quite distinct. Yes, I agree that Team B is talented and I am a fan of Team B, but imo, they could never cut it to be WINNER, they need to hone everything they got to showcase more of their individual personalities and talents so that they could be an actual group and not just B.I and Bobby and the backup dancers. I'm glad that they're debuting soon but I just hope YG would prioritize both groups because I know that there's something special and unique within them. WINNER and Ikon hwaiting! PS: don't you just love Jinhwan in this episode though. so mature *bows to hyung*
I'm agree with you, I likes some of ikon debut song like my type and rythm ta but honestly, it's a bit hard to disgust who is who in their song and dance routine beside b.i and bobby.
@fengerl What are you talking about???? iKON Daesang winners....only 4 famous members?? trust me we know all 7 members and they all have very distinct voices. Even other fandoms are supporting their new song I'm OK for relatable lyrics....Winner has only 1 famous person Mino....well I guess SeungYoon has a nice voice too...but don't know if he is famous....
Watching how much have these boys improve I just can't believe it... im so proud of them. so proud of Winner and also proud of Team B. Team B will shine too it's just a matter of time, sooner or later they will debut. Now, it's Winner's time ;)
What I like from the very beginning between the two groups is that Team B has this sense of one-ness, of being and moving as one unit, whereas Team A has this sense of distinctiveness--each person is unique but somehow, finds a harmonious place in the group. Neither is better than the other, but the reception will depend on the preference of the viewer.
YHS saying that Team A sings as if the song doesn't belong to them now have cover songs that has their distinct Winner color. Haru Haru, Nobody and even First Love they gave justice while making it their own. I'm glad they found their own style of music. WINNER is in their own genre.
From episode 1 to the last episode Team B won every evaluation. Team A won the votes because they got the most popular members. Talent and team work wise, Team B is better
I was still thankful because if they debuted too soon Chanwoo won't be part of them and probably there won't be iKON. I'm just glad that both them debuted despite all the hardships.
Team work yeah b won, but not talent. No one in team b raps better than mino, sings better than seungyoon, dances better than seunghoon and prettier than jinu. Also no one in team b has better personality than taehyun.
Riduch better personality than taehyun? I’m sorry. I love winner. I’m rooting for them but taehyun was so difficult and didn’t have cooperation with the team.
At this point, I'm not biased toward any particular group, though I think I've slightly developed a personal bias for Jinhwan. I hope Team B's debut isn't too far away. Edit: Wow, Team B smashed that performance. Even if their vocals weren't as solid, their charisma and that dance...
Seeing Winner's relationships with each other now, compared to WIN is so interesting. Over these years they've become more than family, despite having such different personalities. Even on New Journey, Mino was always talking about how much he loves his members, and I feel like this show is part of the reason their relationship is so strong.
Jinhwan got into my heart. He's such a nice considerate guy always helping his team members. But when Donghyuk and Junhoe fought, he turned into a manly serious (but not furious) little man ^^
I think iKON just had STAR quality about them from their trainee days...even when they prank each other to their performances...they are so crazy and wild with 4D personalities that just pop out of the TV....very unique characters.
They show who they are on tv broadcast, without pretentions etc. They are quiet honestbin interviews and bold. One of their charms like them tbh, aside from being dorks XD Their TEAMWORK is commendable too
I really love how YG handles everything! He never let anyone feels bad. I was also touches when he prepared something to cheer the Team A up. He's a great CEO!
Seungyoon really deserve to be the leader. Its not that Mino doesn't deserve it. Its just that Seungyoon is like the leader type. Very responsible and firm.
fuck sakes why did i have to scroll down to read this comment! DAMN next time add a *SPOILER ALERT* please. ....but i'm gonna still continue watching -_- YOU SUCK!
viet pham WIN is over for such a long time.. It's your fault when you read the comments. If you just use your brain a bit you could have known that there will be comments like this. So don't insult them..
Hanbin was the only one looking forward to it... this gives me hope for now... he can take on any challenge that comes his way... everything about him made him a great leader... talent and personality!! His eyes have softened so much now compared to this Hanbin! He just stands out!! And Team B did so well! Also the prank they pulled on Jinhwan reminds me of the iKON tv one... it's all so bittersweet now... but yeah YGE should be begging for Hanbin to come back... if they know what's good...
This was the time Jinhwan became my bias. On the 2nd ep, I was already rooting for Team B. I feel more connected with them. It just intensifies every episode
I don't know why I always end up crying after watching every episode. This show is truly inspiring and I really admire YG's strictness and being straightforward to his trainees, even though his comments are really harsh it will really keep them motivated. YG is really great in handling his artists.
I really hate how YG would always compliment iKON comparing them to BIGBANG like "Bobby is like GD." "Jinhwan is like Taeyang." Like bro, just for once appreciate them without comparing. These boys are great as they are. iKON is iKON and BIGBANG is BIGBANG.
I really like Team B's spirit, and their looks. They feel honest with each other. But I don't think any of them are really ready to debut yet. Out of all of them, B.I and the Jinhwan seems readiest. On Team A seems more ready, especially Kang and the leader, the other three are a bit shaky. Their personalities are very different which makes it easier to identify with them.
I have been going backwards with iKON journey.. I fell in love with them watching a 2019 variety show and have been binge watching all theirs shows and videos.. I have watched almost everything except WIN.. I didn’t want to watch it since I know they don’t win and it’s painful to see B.I’s hard work knowing that iKON OT7 is no more.. But since I had exhausted everything else I decided to watch their beginning and cry with them .. MIND BLOWN by team B.. they are professionals ready to rock the stage.. No one other than B.I could hav pulled this off.. he is a hardworking genius! iKON has been through so much and they deserve so much more than they hav now.. if only they had debuted in 2013 and didn’t hav the pressure of debut would things hav been easier on B.I.. would he be in a better place now.. I have thought this countless no of times.. it jus makes me so sad to think about wat could hav been..
This episode especially made it really bias toward team a. People felt more sympathy for team a just because it keeps showing team a practicing while team b is playing around in a beach. Team b worked also equally as hard, but the way they portray it it seems like they just win everything without any effort
I think YG wanted Team A to win since they are older.. But he knew that Team B is so much better than Team A. So he made the scene like this to raise sympathy for Team A. Team A worked so hard. They are great. But against Team B (with u-know-who leader) they looked like lacking on everything..
@@mackenziesherry4894 I agree with this. Team b has all the yG swag that YG artists have. And you could see the small smile that YG has whenever Team B presented. I think he really just want to debut the two teams, and make the audiences like them at once. Cause you could see that team a work so hard and team b was so talented, so it's like hitting two birds with one stone. In this case, promoting two teams in one show
I loss count on how many times i watched WIN. This time I realize both Jinwoo & Jinhwan are soft/warm hearted hyung to their dongsengs. Jinwoo felt he was a group's burden coz he lacks in many things meanwhile his dongsengs contributed lots of things for the group (yoon & namtae with composing, mino with raps & lyrics, hoon with choreography). He always have that concern even until now. Jinhwan on the other hand always concern for his dongsengs & the group. He is willing to follow evey single thing for thr sake of group even though he is the oldest. He really hates to lose any of his dongsengs whenever they starts fighting. Both of them are such a wonderful people that is needed in every group. No matter how talented you are, if you don't have this pure/innocent ppl in your group, it won't last long. They really resembles their sunbae Taeyang.
Me too!! I compare them both a lot. I mean in terms of what they mean for their teams, being the hyungs and all. Both are adorable! plus Jinhwan has a style of dancing pretty similar to Taeyang hehe
It never gets old. Whatever happens, happens for the best. I'm a hardcore ikonic but I also acknowledge and appreciate WINNER because they too are very talented and hard working. The results of the second month's evaluation made me happy that Team B won but it also made me cry because I could feel how much painful it was for Team A. It's also sad but good that team A won in the end, since I really support team B. But if it didn't happen then WINNER wouldn't be WINNER and iKON wouldn't iKON. And we can all agree that we won't have it any other way. WINNER has to be WINNER and iKON has to be iKON. That's how we love them. Both are stars
yeah but kpopstar was tough and apparently she had to go through intensive training, even moreso because she debuted so fast. and they can't really change lee hi alot since the public has already seem her. seunghoon however and the other members of both teams had things to work on, like seunghoon's accent. and yg would never debut someone that wasn't ready.
Leighla i know, but as I look at it in a wider point of veiw, It YG decided to debut Hayi because she was not fit to be an idol but a singer/artist instead, and it is undeniable how talented she is in her field! I always have mad respect for her tbh!
I just discovered winner and I never thought they've gone to this kind of humiliation but still stood up and tried their best to show everyone that they can be a winner too. Im so proud of them. Tbh, I can't imagine having team b/ikon as being the WINNER. But, Im glad team B had debuted as IKON they're all talented and deserves to be known and praise too.
I am super duper grateful seeing my dorkies debuted as iKON, everything happened for a reason tho. Besides, my boys WINNER deserved the title too. They are really meant to be the Winner from the start. Thankyou iKON and WINNER you guys now are shining on the stage you deserved the whole spotlight 💓💓💓💓💓💓
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