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I still believe that WINNER's style is from TAEYANG and iKON's style is from GD, and YG just produced 2 amazing boy group that will SLAY the KPOP world.
+Just Being HONEST And winner treats Taeyang like their Dad and iKon worships GD. I think their stage presence and attitude towards performance is influenced by the advises they got from GD and YB too which they took to heart tbh.Winner is so smooth and sauve af and iKon is like crazy af energy and attitude in your face. And even GDYB have a softer spot for the teams they mentored even though obviously the adore all their juniors.
yeah like they said i liked that he was like "ah yes this move " and he did it and sweated with them he was cool because he is really a cool guy not because he is the "celebrity "
지디랑 태양이랑 다른 느낌으로 멋있는 것처럼 a랑 b도 다른 느낌ㅋㅋ 와중에 지디는 뱅 리더에 자기가 프로듀싱하던 짬바가 있어서 짚어서 뭘 얘기해줘야 할지 완전 제대로 하는 느낌. 와 근데 심사평에서 꽂힌 부분들 다 지디가 짚어서 고쳐준 동선이고 메이킹이었네. 아이컨택에 준회 시작 파트, 동혁이 누워서 끼부린 부분 뭐 하나 빠질 거 없이 지디 손 거친 부분.. 10년 탑 가수는 이유가 잇구만
When Bom said she wants to see more dancing with Team B then TOP suddenly gets up and dance AHHH they are so cute i don,t want to ship them but let's say its a friendly ship HAHAHAHAHA....BTW watching this in 2020 hoping this era in kpop will be back like when idols can interact with each other without getting issues and etc.
I love how PAPA YG pointed out how poor both BIGBANG and 2NE1's practice conditions were. They had to improve by themselves. Respect for those two legendary groups, it's because of them that YG is now such a big agency.
When BigBang and 2NE1 were sitting together along with YG, it made me think that once upon a time those two groups were like team A and team B. Very nervous and reserved and weren't able to express themselves fully. Now they are sitting like they own the place (good thing). Like they are professionals and it's amazing how much they've grown
joseph vincent but you can't look at it in this perspective, both had different teams so different advices and things to do. For example Tae had to cheer them more for their situation... GD had it easier since team B's confidence, vibe and energy were their strong points
***** the best in which way? lol. Only in skills cuz team B was at least real. Also do you expect them to not point out their faults and let them do wrong? this is wrong, and this is life you gotta learn how to stand up. Sorry if I crush your ilusions but this show was made with the only objective to debut winner as team A and to promote team B. Do you really think they would let team B who wasn't prepared AT ALL to debut back then? Ofc not, only team A was prepared (skills wise). And look at them now, they are supposedly still lacking the 2%
***** I know how the show works and I even participated in the votings. But tell me for real if you really think that team B could have debuted back then... what would they have done with team A? keep some members? keep them all? but for what reason? to debut them after someone younger? well this makes no sense, they'd be too old. And training them would have been a loss of money. This is all business at the end. They couldn't let this happen and even when I voted for them I was hurt cuz I knew what the results surely would be like. But the real reason they do these kind of shows is 1. the competition makes them feel more pressure, so they improve faster 2. to introduce them to the public Btw it seems like you don't know how do all these kind of shows work. They are always kind of rigged. It maybe will surprise you but like this, smtm is too to some extend. And I suppose UR and M&M were too.
After seeing WINNER debut, I finally understand why they've had a hard time during WIN. That's because hip hop isn't really their forte. They're really more suited in doing ballad and emotional songs like empty and color ring. That's their OWN COLOR! But I'm just so happy to find out that these boys are really talented and versatile! WINNER Fighting!
Lyching Ly LOL!!! Didn't you know that MINO ALSO composed it? LOL im laughing at your bias and ignorance. We are fully aware of team A's color since they freaking composed and produced the majority of their album as rookies and were still able to incorporate A WIDDDEEE variety of genres...from reggae to ballad to pop to hiphop they did it all.
xxVIPIKACHUxx i think Lyching Ly just want to point out that B.I. knows Winner's music color..and fyi guys the songs was B.I. gift to Winner…so no issue about it..the song was made exactly for them...
wyen loysa i get that it was a gift but like bi doesnt get the credit for hte song, its not his song it was a group effort so it makes no sense to insult winner when the song was partially written by them too and also...a producer at yg said the song wouldnt have sounded to good if it was done by anyone else but winner so obvious its their color and i just hate when stupid fans are rude about winner just because they like BI or whatever more its rude and mean
Taeyang is truely a great mentor. He is teaching with his heart. He really felt in love with Team A, treating them like his own children. It's amazingly beatiful to watch.
I've been sitting here for roughly 15 minutes staring at my screen like yooo something is not right here.....it took me 15 minutes to realize I didn't turn the subs on FML
솔직히 B팀은 진짜 잘한다;; 확실히 어린애들이라 노래할 때나 춤출 때 힘도 있는 것 같고, 정말 아무 생각없이 보게되는 듯. 심사위원들이 B팀은 A팀보다 각자가 안보인다고 했는데, 아무래도 다른 방송을 통해 눈에 익은 얼굴들이 A팀에 많기 때문이기도 한 것 같다. 내가 쇼미더머니에 출현했던 바비랑 비아이를 알고 봐서 그런지 몰라도 바비랑 비아이 그리고 구준회 만큼은 눈에 확실히 들어오는듯.
After watching this, I want Seungri, 2ne1, BI and all who left to became YG family again together with BP, Ikon and winner. Please bring back the YGfam. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😭😭😭😭😭
all of them I don't really know because he just said "I sometimes drink beer with WINNER friends and I've been doing that since a year ago (2013). when I drink with them, I tell them that I want to be their fans and their partner".
Seeing this ep makes me sooo proud of iKON. What they have gone through to debut was sooo tough and heart breaking. Though they did not took the title winner, i believe they are really cut out to be an ICON "iKON" :)
when i watched this episode, i realized park bom point out nam taehyun and koo junhoe voice and said they are really good.. i didn't realized it then, but after both team debur, what she said is really true, both voice is really outstanding..
I was just telling my husband it reminds me of the sorority days. We had a brother fraternity and the friendship we had truly felt like having siblings that got along. It was also us only and no one else could really penetrate the circle.
okay so here's what i think. months have passed, WINNER finally debuted and team b which is iKON right now is going to debut by early next year. i've always liked team a. i never really paid any attention to team b. i fell in love with winner right from the start they debuted. i didnt think that they were lacking anything because imo they showed their true colors to the fans and came up with songs that can move people. afterwards i watched mix & match before watching WIN and i realized that team b are the full package. personally winner and ikon are two COMPLETELY different groups and should not be compared with each other. as for dancing skills, clearly ikon wins and for vocal skills, goes to winner. i still dont get why people still argue about how winner didnt deserve to win and that ikon shouldve debuted instead. i've grown to like both distinctly talented groups. and i dont get the huge fuss about who is more talented than who. BOTH are. its just that BOTH groups just have different styles.
I get you... Although I am Team B biased (I knew them as iKON and came to see this afterwards), I am happy that Team A won cause it ended the best way possible: Both teams debuted and I am so happy for them. I am not really a WINNER fan, but I do empathize with them... It have been hard for them... And so for iKON too... I just want to cheer for them both!!! By the way, what´s WINNER fandom name?
i can't believe no one has made a comment about this yet but the only reason why Team A wasn't winning was because they hadn't found their style yet, YG and pretty much everyone just wanted to shove "YG style" down their throats, Team B were "fit" for it but Team A just have a total different vibe and i'm pretty positive if they had found their style and sound (what WINNER is today) back then they would've won more times at least, they're unique and completely different from anything YG has ever done and current KPOP, they're refreshing as they are now, pretty sure if they had done in the competition what they do now the jury would've been extremely conflicted, so in conclusion, Team B is not better at all, they just had it figured out while Team A was still struggling to find their style and wasn't 100% comfortable.
EXACTLY!! In earlier episodes, Taehyun even said that he had to change his whole singing style to fit into YG. I feel that it is too artificial to take away someone's identity, speciality, uniqueness, and changing into something else. If they would have been given the freedom to explore and discover their own style rather than following the YG style, they could have done much better. Plus the mental pressure, constantly being told that you have to become someone other than yourself, is extremely fatal. I don't know the real reason of Taehyun's illness, but this could have been a part of the many reasons.
지금 활동하는 위너만 보고 얘네는 첨부터 엄청 잘했고 막연히 WIN에서도 B팀보다 잘했을 줄 알았는데 이렇게 맨날 지기만 했을 줄이야.. 근데 그래서 지금까지 스스로도 이해가 안됐던, 내가 왜 정말 진짜 취향에 전혀 안맞는 YG의 소속가수를 좋아하게 됐는지 알 것 같다.. 그냥 위너는 YG의 전통적인 스타일이 안맞는 애들이다.. 그걸 억지로 시켜놓고 원래 그 스타일이 잘맞는 아이콘이랑 붙여놓으니깐 당연히 다 지지. 지금처럼 위너가 하고 싶고 잘하는 걸 하니깐 자연스럽기만 하고 세련됐고 얼마나 잘하냐.. 양현석씨 말대로 A팀이 절대로 못하는 게 아니다. 근데 그 이유가 B팀이 두려워서가 아니라 자기들한테 안맞는 걸 하고 있어서 상대적으로 못해보이는 거다..
I love ikon and B.I even before I watched WIN and M&M but when I watched WIN I can't help but to love Winner too they have charm just like what GD said
I agree with what GD said to Minho at the end and this is the reason why Team B are able to be more relaxed in a way. It's not because they're young and all that bullshit, it's simply because B.I has great leadership qualities. He knows at times when he needs to push the others to do better, because he knows they can do it. He has trust in not just his own abilities on what would work best but also in everyone else being able to pull it off. People use to call him harsh during MIx n Match phase and a bully but they're so wrong. He steps up to the game, end of story and this is why I believe he's one of the best leaders in kpop
In MINO's defense, he was just new to YG and trained the shortest with them. Team A was created rashly then they decided to put mino as leader because of whatv reason when he really isn't leader material. Even Zico was surprised that he was the leader haha and gave all the tips he could to help mino. All his music life is based on hiphop too which is not Team A color. I do admire BI leader skills, producing skills, and personality that sometimes I imagine what if he is in Team A, that's why I was also sad when he left. I was rooting for BIxMINO collab :(
Rewatching this now. I didn't know Minho is the leader of Winner. For some reason when I look at Winner (the debuted one) Seung yoon give me the leader vibe.
Why do people say Winner shines in ballads?? They suit a wide variety of genres so it's kind of frustrating to see people try to put them in this small box... I mean listen to 2014 S/S each song is a different color but they all suit Winner
+Jas A That's because they do not know anything about Winner nor care to give them a shot. It is their prejudices that prevents them from opening their heart to a group like Winner. So typecasting them as ballad is an excuse for them to not look any further. We Winner fans know they are not ballad and they can do it all. If anything they have so much more potential than even Ikon, who even YG says is strictly hip hop.
+Jas A bcoz their title track is kinda slow and chill.. you know a lot of ignorant people always generalized slow tempo = ballad= boring. it's annoying
When Top. Mentioned they are looking for a group that will be with them - feels so sad cause half of them are Gone. Watching this again cause I miss the old YG Fam. Sigh. I hope YG Can get back up again just like what they did before back in the early 2000s when they were bankcrupt.
Started watching WIN because of iKon but I find myself rooting for Team A in this series. Suddenly felt like crying watching Team A's performance because of how much they have SERIOUSLY improved since the beginning especially Jinwoo! They seemed more relaxed than before. Like, you can feel their stage presence more. Loved Team B's performance too omg Bobby reminded me how he became my bias in iKon again hahaha that rap though. Bt gotta agree with TOP, there's too much going on for their dance so I dont know where to look.
Sera C, we're the same... I started watching WIN because of Climax,but when I watched the whole episode,I started to love winner... even I repeat to watch it again.. I just feel the same... team A performs have a big influence for me...
Here (23:24 - 23:47) I've been always searching some GD's or YB's raw reaction to some Idol's because it's rare... but who know's that there's a person who can Wowed Taeyang and put a cracked of smile on the lips of the King GD 👑 because of amusement... It's such a big compliment for Bobby.. but overall both teams are amazing 😱..
When I see this I think Team A struggles were more because they weren't sure what are they're strenghts, while Team B is confident about theirs. You can see how Team A tried so hard to bring something different each time, and sometimes that didn't worked well on their favour because while they were experimenting with styles, Team B already knew what they were all about and focused on that, so they stood out. Tho I'm glad to know that Team A eventually grew to the point were no matter what they try, they'll be good at it. Makes you feel proud when you watch this again haha :')
Is no one gonna talk about how caring TOP is? Like its so sweet to see him try to make things less awkward for WINNER and prevent them from getting too badly hurt 😭
Hanbin's creativity really stands out. He is good at everything. I mean IKon's dance practices are my favorite because of how creative they make their dances and even since WIN, Hanbin's skills stand out the most. But definitely I can never imagine IKon without Chanwoo in it. So the results of this survival show was for the best.
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