Wing Chun High skill Natural Fighting 

WC is actually an awesome system, but it takes a long time to become good at it. its awesomeness comes from the sheer depth of the system itself. it takes years and years of solid training to have these kinds of skills. in the end you don't think about it because it all becomes second nature. he makes it look effortless because repetition is the mother of skill.

this guy understands wing chun, i look on youtube and everyone tries to be ip man. they dont understand martial arts. this guy understands that u just do, u dont think, or plan or get so technical, u just flow.

Have you/can you do a video demonstrating how wing chun deals with other types of punches (not just straight punches/chain punches)? I am interested in seeing how these techniques are used against other forms of attacks. Rarely see hooks or uppercuts thrown which is likely to be encountered in the real world

Problem is he's demonstrating on guy whose an extreme amateur. Straight line movement only and only got chain punch even for his entry. Do it against someone of equal skill, becomes wildly different, do it against a boxer and the technique becomes more rounded.

Sifu!!!! I finally found someone that teaches WC the way I do. Bless you Sifu Evangelos for telling people the truth about our fascinating martial arts system. Im gonna start a RU-vid channel in the very near future, and continue telling the TRUTH about how we really apply WC physics against our opponents also. At first I thought I would receive a lot of resistance from our community. But I was going to do it anyway. And now that I see you showing it properly, so here I come. BTW, I've been watching you and Sifu Gary Lam for years and have always appreciated how Sifu Gary Lam demonstrates it. I am from Ip Man lineage through Sifu Leung Sheong, Sifu Ken Chung, Sifu Eddie Chong, and Sifu Michael Nedderman. I am Sifu Nedderman's 1st accomplished student and have been training for 20yrs. And this is how we were taught to apply our WC physics. AWESOME JOB SIFU!!! Keep up the good work brother...

How about the other guy actually try hitting him in the face rather than throwing his own punch offline at an angle so his sifu doesn't even need to block. I love the look of wing chun but honestly, unless they start to practice it against hooks, proper jabs and crosses with pressure coming forward, it will never be more than a cool show.

Very pretty techniques. I would love to learn how to defend against punches that are not as straight down the middle with the elbow down. I would guess that you'd have to pivot slightly or elbow spike the fist.

Trust me! There are a lot of martial art hacks out there. This guy is the real deal. Not saying he's ready for a professional mma fighter, but he definitely would have no problem defending himself against most any natural street attacker! Do not underestimate what you see here!

Put this guy in a movie plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz doing that scene I dont want to fight plzzz lol

finally i found a real fighter

He is so skilful! I've seen videos of him training with Gary Lam, a well known wing chun instructor who is from Hong Kong.

it´s not fair he is using biu tze and his student has no clue of biu tze , so he is nothing more then a dummy for the Si Hing or Si Fu

thats not what is happening. thats when he is making contact which throws off the momentum, throwing him off balance. it is almost impossible to continue puching with any kind of force when you are off balance. if you have ever had someone push your forearm and redirect it mid punch you will know what i am talking about.

Yeah now I would love to see one of those youtube MMA wannabe go one on one with this guy, since according to them WC is useless...

Thanks Joe! Come around and i spend a Beer;)

dude..what i see is that he throws a right punch then a left punch, then right, then left..well thats easy to defend..cuz you know what comes after a right punch..a left punch....come on

MMA is not a 'form of combat'. MMA is taking any martial arts and combining them. Therefore it is personal to the user...it's not a set form. You could train in TKD, WC and Aikido, and still be a Mixed Martial Artist.

Sifu Evangelos, can you do any videos for fighting against western boxer. Maybe jab, cross, hook defense. That would be great.

o.k. not only biu tze but he should give him a chance to try those attacks

I'm extremely happy I stumbled across this video, The level of skill here is phenomenal .. I would love to see more so I'm subscribing... Thank you for sharing

I've never trained in Wing Chun, but you seem very good at it. You should make a video showing sparring against an untrained person and/or against a martial artist from a different martial art. Please consider it, and if you do so, please notify me.

Good stuff. But please let’s practice against non wing chun attacks-boxing and wrestling attacks. This is where chunners are woeful. Chiao.

This is really awesome stuff for when you're attacked by someone who stands one foot in front of you, feet planted, making slaps and arm punches! Awesomes! For more accomplished attackers, consider Muay Thai and a grappling art such as BJJ.

this guy is so cool - watched this clip tons of times and i love the bit at the end "lets go drink coffee" - brilliant hehehe

great technique, all respects! makes me never leave the gym, so inspired.

Sifu Gary Lam. Wong Shun Leung lineage.

I think I’ve got it. I do my own version though. I do a BACK HAND JAO SAO (running hand) 2. I use a front hand BUI GEE coming in from the right arm towards the right I’ll swipe n out my left hand outside my tricep. (Inside hand) this causes me to have two hands in. So picture a front hand BUI SAO (right hand) and my left is outside of my elbow triceps area. Now I’ll BUI DA CHOY (a BUI GEE that acts as a FOOK SAO RAMP) or flat cover for a punch.) that’s one of my entries. So it’s 1. JAO SAO SLAP 2. BUI GEE (front right hand) now (left hand) 3. BUI GEE to throat moves the arm if it’s there. 4. CHEUNG (right over the top of my BUI GEE which is now a FOOK SAO cover. Just an entry idea I’ve been playing with as a structure to fire from.

Wing tsun is wing chun mate.

i would like to see if he can still keep the center if he get really chain punches in the center,with speed and pressure and not just 1-2 relaxed punches.

GUYS GUYS GUYS let the WC guys have there thoughts- we are brethren in life. we tried to show them , but cognitive distance gets in the way of all traditional styles- go to a pure karate, WC, kung fu, and we get into the same - my style is better yada , yada, yada- some ppl need to be cannon fodder- I apologize if my MMA brothers come off as arrogant and strong- its the gladiator nature- as martial artist they wish you to be more powerful, but they come off as arrogant-Osu

BRO really i offer an open challenge to that and thats BS, i hope the other guy was respectful of your art that you said this comment- you are wrong and i offer up my body as proof-- i dont fight with my chin out- if you could touch my throat id give you$100 us- eye stuff? try tagging my eye as i run in at you,you'll only get one shot! look up gracie challenge- dont talk smack bro- have you seen a cage fight? have you ever been choked unconscious? deadly so is a choke if i hold on after you tap

BRO really i offer an open challenge to that and thats BS, i hope the other guy was respectful of your art that you said this comment- but you are wrong and i offer up my body as proof- i will die to prove you wrong- why? i dont fight with my chin out- hell if you could touch my throat id give you$100 us- eye stuff try tagging my eye as i run in at you,you'll only get one shot! look up gracie challenge- dont talk smack bro- have you seen a cage fight? have you ever been choked unconscious?

that was amazing wing chun skills. looks like sifu evangelos has learned his skills well from sifu gary lam. because I saw clips of sifu gary lam do the exact same thing with his students. those hands move effortlessly and fluidly its awesome. this is top level wing chun.

Q: " Wing Chun is fun huh ? " Me: " More than Anything ! "

I'd like to know his Sifu's name or his lineage because in some lineages SLT is all three open hand forms of WSL and Ip Man Lineages packed into one form! I heard that GM Yip learned the 61/2 point pole from another system because it is not exclusive to wing chun, but I'm not sure. You know Sifu Sergio and all the different lineages he sees is cool and teaches, I used to think he wasn't legit but he runs a tough program 24 hr Black Sash test! Any way peace

@havoqeemterprizes.. Sifu Wong is hilarious! But he must have learned a different lineage than WSL or Ip Man! Watch his chum Ku, the opening punch to wrist shakes is For Bill Jee or finger jabs from Biu Gee! And his forms have a lot more meat to them... He is awesome and I think his Tiajiquan Chen Style is great looking, I don't know Chen but his applications are awesome, watch the ratan ring one you'll laugh your ass off!!

I'm always a little disappointed by these demonstrations. It makes the Sifu look super badass while in reality his students are just intimidated and afraid to really test the teacher. I know this because I have been there. He may have skill but he is not really showing it by acting this way in front of his students. Do they spar? Do they test it full contact? I want to know, because otherwise it is all for show...

they are thinking as a boxer, with a boxers rules. even in this video, you see three gates someone has to go through to get to your face. we do protect our face very well actually, watch the Chum Kiu form to see the elbow striking and protection of the face. I have fought many, many, boxers. They have to come to YOU, you see them swing, that's when you intercept, wedge and blow them away, boxers are not used to that fast of an attack.

Sifu Evangelos, you seem very skilled. I only wonder why there are no guys with your skill participating in fights.. would like to see your skill in competition.. but, is it possible that skilled wingtsun practitioners dont participate in competitive fights because they are all bound to rules like "dont break the knee or dont hit the throat"? I have had so many people ask me why no1 uses wingtsun in K1 or UFC.. i think its because of limitations and rules.. while wingtsun has none.. am I right?

Now THAT is chain punching! Evangelos takes over the motion of his opponent in succession. THAT is chain punching! It is NOT a blitz or flurry of punches; THAT is not special- ANY martial art does THAT. The difference is chain punching is actually determined by the opponent. Notice how Evangelos' punches occur after the opponent's. E. goes only as fast as the opponent initiates, and that is not the same as a barrage of punches which most boxers are trained to hide from behind their arms.

Actually, boxing was created as a bruthal streetfight style. And differently from WT and another kinds of exotic, boxing defence was many times realy done with witnesses and so on... But any way, I repeat my question again: where is real atack on this "master"? Show me please minimum one episode of real successfuly fight against qualifying and agressive opponent with WT. No theory, no history, fight only.

Uhh... again someone who thinks wt/c can be compared with classical fighting sports. It ISNT a sport. boxing IS a sport the goals of these 2 styles are completly different. Boxing is made for long, hard fights against an opponent, useing the same style and acts with the same rules. Wt/c is designed to clear a situation on the street to have enough time to run away. as you see this is much different from boxing :) greets

umm how was that agressive? I didn't even refer to WC in general, just to your assumption that you can be so close that you can't be kicked, which is simply impossible unless you are getting hugged with arms and legs at the same time. And remember, 99.9% of the time you wont be standing statically in clinch. It's a dynamic situation with pulls and pushes to open up small windows for attacks with elbows, knees and throws.

1) You are right, it's not choreographed in the strict sense.What I actually said is "there is choreography".In the sense that the rules it has restrict free responses form both sides,which means you know the frame of one's attack pretty well, especially if youpracticed with him years.By saying "there is choreography" I mean it's not a dowhat everyou want free "dance".2)a beginner wil fail in the game of chi sao due to inexperience(yes), but intimidation can effect him&a more experienced person,

chi sao is not real fighting:yes chi sao has some "rules" by which it is carried out? you might say so does that mean its choregraphed:no if your a beginner in a "game" (chi sao) and you totally fail against someone who has been training it for 40+years, Is it because of intimidation,?no Can this person be sure that he will be invincible in a street figt?defintely not I think that makes my point pretty clear, you are welcome to disagree, then we will just agree to disagree, just as on religion.

No need to promise me anything.The jig is up.. long time ago. I know what masters can do and can't.I agree with the "far from the what an average" sentence says, my point was a different one.See my first comment (I skipped the word "hit", sorry). But you are definitely wrong on your last sentece, the is always direct or indirect, conscious or unconscious intimidation&by rule fastly done free chisao which is at the end choreographynot real fighting where too many factors kick in. It's reality.

You sound inexperienced.You say no "choreography",but it's to a untrained eye. There is choreography.There are technics that "engage/lock and block" into other technicswhen done atcertain speed (never at higher speed!) bysomeone experienced in chisao.This shouldactually be seenas adrill notactual fighting,although they may bothseem emotional at it (forcefull, tough etc.)Ofcourse they are using their brain&skill!! I just spoke about the "he can't hit you" lie since supposedly he canblock everth.

However, I completely agree with you that a street fight is a totally different story. And the master has started training as a kid and taught full time for 40 years, his assistant is also training full time for several years. So, I am totally aware that what they are doing in a gym is far from what an average prationer could chieve in a street fight. Still, I promise you, if you see 2 real master degree people sparring you will realize its more than intimdationa dn choreography.

One attacks the other and the other one defends and they are both so fast that it is even difficult to see waht they are doing. And they are doing this randomnly and sponatneously with every technique where they think it fits, so its definitely no choreography.So, as said before, saying a wc master is invincible is complete bullshit, but saying its all choreography and intimidation is imho complete bullshit as well, as often in liofe, the truth lies in the middle

I am not saying a wc master in invincible, in a street fight or elsewhere, saying somehting like that would be completely ridiculous. What I am saying is if someone who is not well trained and not experienced in fighting is standing before a real wc master in a controlled sparring sitauation, this person got no chance to even touch the guy. And that has got nothing to do with intimidation. In my school there are two teacher so they can demontsrate the techniques on each other.

I will add, that any master can manipulate a "fixed to be manipulated" student&that's how they get advertized at the end.And yes,a master can beat up some thugs on the street,but that's just because he has some advantage over some,not over all! All things pal,DO NOT work on all people.There are people that"master"can beat theirfaces in but they at the end these same people will insist to get their way with them.The master,if he gets away with it,he will definetely leave in a bloody mess as well.

And yes,though it may sound arrogant,but I have more than touched masters... & I will add that there is no kind of master on the planet that is untouchable!Get over it. It's all the movie industry propaganda making them something like semi-gods.They're definitely not.Just people putting on a show at worse& at best people doing their best, which can never be good enough,since there is so much competition in the martial arts world.Set your mind not on who they say they are, but on who you will be.

someone had a bad sifu :) or did you practice it for about 2 months too incompetant to work out the philosophy behind it and then felt obligated to tell everybody on the internet how bad your experience was? Wing Chun in real application IS deadly... if you doubt it then you dont understand the principles of "combat". A real martial artist respects everyone, when I watch UFC there is little to no respect between any of them... MMA is about techniques and money. MA is about life and health. Ching

I do agree that the curriculum is too rigid. I don't agree that half only know how to do chi sau..At the school where I live, you don't get to do chi sau if you can't "break the guard", as we call it. And yes, wing chun isn't the only style that uses a sticky hand type thing, my style uses something very similar. As to that, I do Asakai Martial Arts. We have a FaceBook, but we're not on RU-vid...yet. Still trying to convince my sensei that it's a good thing lol.

Just once, I would like to see two equally adept practitioners of ANYTHING, so as to judge the real effectiveness of an art. Not one guy feigning attacks while the other guy shows how easy it is to defend, but two guys with equal skills demonstrating effective attack and effective defense. Because both have their strengths and weaknesses. Instead we get videos showing how this or that art is the ultimate fighting style, able to ward off any attack. And that's just plain bullshit.

for everyone below. WC choose not to fight in MMA competitions because it would mean taking away the fundemental techniques: chop to the throat, straight kick to the knee, stomp kick to the knee, snap kick to the groin and so on and so forth. Plus people tend to do WC as a self defence, not to enter competitions. So there are no videos about it, doesn't mean anything. You're assuming that everything is on RU-vid :P my style doesn't have a single clip on here, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Actually, Wing Chun is more deadly than any Mixed Martial Arts used if UFC. Now MMA itself doesn't have any rules other than those provided by the dojo. The reasoning behind the rules of UFC is not to prevent death, it's because it's a sport. It's simple sportsmanship not to hit a man in the throat. Wing Chun would not be allowed, throat strikes are common, blows at the groin are taught at some points. Breaking is also allowed. You shoudl brush up on your fighting styles bud you're way off here.

dude I have been trying to find a WC student to have a challenge fight on here for months now, ive posted in several videos and pm'ed a shit ton of self proclaimed WC masters and practitioners, and so far the only thing I have gotten back is hate mail and death threats, Im respectful, just need someone in the texas area to have a BJJ vs WC challenge fight, the results will be posted online no matter the outcome of course, Ive been beat up in front of a crowd before, no shame,

I wonder where is Martinez's video of his fighting skill????. Im more of a mma fighter but most wing chun fighters I know come from or practice other styles and use whatever works be it jujitsu take downs, muy thai kicks or grappling skills they got from maybe high school wrestling. Quite simply if you think wing chun sucks so much stop talking and take your skills to any wing chun school if not this one and challenge a student at your skill level and post on youtube.

"couldnt care less WHETHER YOU THINK WING CHUN SUCKS OR NOT " I.E. your opinion in the subject doesn't matter to me, you're just one person with an opinion just like everyone else on this video, the difference you're everyone's time with your opinion, obviously the people you're talking to disagree they are entitled to their own opinion. You can either continue to spam the video with your ludicrous opinion and superior attitude or you can stop wasting everyone's time including your own.

A good striker cannot so easily beat a "ground guy" in less than a second. Wrestlers have very strong builds, and even though they aren't trained in kicking and punching they can last long enough to bring their opponent to the ground where he has no chance. That's why the most effective fighting style in MMA is wrestling. The idea is that gravitation makes the standing->ground transition kind of one way and he who is better on the ground rules. Things are different against multiple opponents.

(This is what "martinez418" said in his removed commment. To which I reply) No sir, Wing Chun was never suited to be in a ring, where their techniques are limited. No we are not mentally stuck to any level. We have complicated theories and simple movements ;). And bruce lee only learned Siu-Nim-Tau (the first Wing Chun Set) so more likely to be on GGM Ip Man's (Yip) balls than anything else.

Since you want to remove comments, I'll put it in here: Look broski, Wing Tsun is effective, thats why SEK, and GSG9 (Germany) NOCS (Italy), RAID (France) and even the FBI, and Marines have used WingTsun. When I lived in San Antonio, I taught some Army guys and the Marines combative instructors for Fort Sam. Yes I have been exposed to MCMAP, BJJ, Muay Thai and all that. Just Wing Tsun works better for me... And about 4 million other people worldwide. So stop talking trash.

Well sorry, but your ignorance is just unbelievable. You not knowing the first thing about WC/WT or the guiding principles, theories or combative concepts. Do you know WHY people don't use WC in the ring? It was never suited for it. It was for the layman to defend themselves. And THAT is where it belongs, in the streets. Now you can put anything in the ring. And using WT/WC principals in the cage would be effective, not just techniques. How about getting some knowledge?

I've trained for martial art in 20 years and been doing wing tsun for the last 9. And yes wing tsun does work with mma. And he is half showing techniques, the other half is completely spontaneous. Why do mma guys like you come on here and get ignorant immeadiately? See unlike you, I HAVE been on the mat. I've done wrestling for 20 years as well, and I can put it straight with my WT. You need to get back on the mat and stop wasting your time on youtube when you clueless.

Its not that is choreographed or it wont work with MMA, you just have to learnhow to adapt your wing chun to different fighting styles as with any martial arts. Yes it is looking "too" perfect because he's fighting another wing chun man. We all train to fight "ourselves" even in MMA. But any art you learn is a foundation. You have to learn to apply the "concept" of your art to many situations.

i get ur point mate.. i will see how it goes when the time is there.. first i need to get good at using wing chun... im just addicted to it u know.. i dont have that with other styles.. in the end i might end up training other stuff in mma but i am still confident that wing chun alone will be a great thing for me.. Wong Shun Leung was undefeated and i am training his wing chun... so im pretty confident the style is effective even in the ring.. u just have to train right...

ofcourse i will fight even grapplers... i dont want to be like: u cant do this or u cant do that... wing chun is supposed to handle all aspects of a fight... so i am pretty confident ill be able to do some good sparring with no matter who.. but if i find it doesnt work like its supposed.. im gonna have to find a way that does work :p but that experience comes from fighting after all

so when u shift you move ur centre line from left to right? how are u gonna dominate the centre line with that? if u would use that against real wing chun where sifting is performed on the heel of the foot so that your centre line is not moved then your centreline will be dominated definitely... wing chun is all about centre line dude... its the basic principles from which it was created.. do some research.. read some stuff about wong shun leung.. best student of ip man ^^

i get your point and i cant really argue about it.. there isnt many real proof that wing chun is effective but i am training the real Wong Shun Leung ving tsun from someone who has learned it and is still learning from :Philip bayer, probably the best student of wong. Wong has quite a fighting history u can look it up.. anyways i am confident that what i am learning is very good but still.. when i get better i am gonna do sparring with different martial arts including mma to see for myself how -

and just because u follow one style doesnt necesarily mean ur limiting urself... my level of wing chun will be way higher then ur level of BJJ, wrestling, boxing, muay thai or whatever u do because u will not be able to train all those different styles seperately as much as i train wing chun... but on the other hand u will be able to use different kinds of styles while i use one.. it will still come down to who is faster, more accurate, reaction speed, balance, timing, focus, power and more

i dont agree with HAVING to cross train... if u train only real wing chun then thats allready enough to be able to become a good fighter and also to be able to beat mma guys.. but like i said... mma champs train very hard.. so in order to defeat a mma champ with wing chun u will need to train just as hard as the opponent does at least... those universal fighting skills are also gained through wing chun if trained correctly ofc.. so in the end it comes down to who has trained better and harder

search youtube for Philip Bayer or Wan Kam Leung... maybe that will give u a better view of wing chun... mma fighters are pretty dangerous, if wing chun wants to beat that, wing chun will have to train hard and train correctly,, the correct style with a good teacher who knows his stuff.... mma guys train hard aswell.. to fight u need universal skills that real martial arts should develop... timing, precision, positioning, reaction speed are some of them.. mma aswell as wing chun will need those

The reason that you argue is because you either have a superiority complex and think that these people don't know as much as you, or because you feel like the things they say somehow prove that you or the things you believe in are inferior and you have to defend yourself. Either way, whatever they say, its just words. And even if you do get in an argument, cursing isn't necessary. As for being a martial artist, its fighting, but discipline and respect for others too.

Are you still arguing with people about martial arts over RU-vid? Don't you realize that all martial arts are effective if you train correctly in them? Haven't you learned that bragging through RU-vid (or in general) doesn't do you any good? You know that good martial artists don't get into these arguments because they're confident in their abilities and they have the respect to not put down other martial arts? Just leave these people to their beliefs and follow your own beliefs.

because some martial arts like wing chun is like religion and people don't like if somebody criticizes their religion, but it still not make it real. You can't never see this chain punchin+blocking shit in real fights. Real fights and combat sports use punches and other technicues that are tested to work in tough spar or real figh. Even in wing chun matches fighters totally forgot how to use wing chun and try hit like a boxer.

Just because you don't understand the simplicity and how it works doesn't mean that it is rubbish, I have studied and trained in WC for just over a year and believe me when I confidently say that I can definitely hit harder than you, you say even a boxer would lose etc, but doesn't it depend which boxer against which group of men? Such a generalised close minded comment like that shows why you don't understand WC or why in fact you have little to no understanding of anything at all

There are defenses against both kicks and grapples. I'm pretty new to WC, so I can't explain against grapples, but I can explain against leg kicks. We stay on the back leg and keep very little weight on the front leg. One, it makes sweeping that leg ineffective. Two, it lets us access that leg much faster to throw a kick or a block. We aim to kick for the knee. It's a weak joint, easy to track because it's the slow part of the kick, and really doesn't travel very far through different kicks.

@vinni614 and threw the guy out of the school like a baby boy haha. At least two advanced ving tsun men in our school have fought against kickboxers , and they stopped the fight cause the kickboxer got hit in the trouth and , he sayd we were crazy. You need to be careful what you say about ving tsun bro , ving tsun was designed to destroy all other arts. And it does if trained correctly , unfortunatly macdojos are the rule rather than the exeption.

@Redping2020 it just doesnt work in real life lol haha , id put my thrust in wing chun over kick en thaiboxing , anytime . I think you should visit our club man , and tell that to our guys . Our club members are all ex aikido , jiu jitsu , jeet kune do , boxing practicioners ,who think ving tsun is vastley superior to what they practiced before. We even had a boxer come to our school and challenge our sifu , sifu didnt need to even punch , just intercepted the guy

i'm sure someone can explain this for me, but i'm watching the part where the guy comes in with the 3 hit combo and sifu uses only one hand to block all 3 hits, i noticed that all the hits are wingchun style punches and they're all down the center line. how does one handle western boxing punches that are hooks and cross with the elbow pointed outside instead of downwards? it doesn't look like those blocks will work against that style of punching

Hey.martinez.wing chun is used all the time by people like lyoto and silva.no they dont practice wc,but it still comes out in their freestyle.dont worship mma.i love it but its just a sport.not real fighting.

yea thats exactly what I had been guessing I also dont understand why some people say that wingchun is "crap" because wingchun fighters dont protect their heads and that they would get knocked out fast in a real fight... (they say so because wingchun fighters dont hold their hands on head level..) what do u think about that? thanks for your answer anyway!

The fact is that all the wing chun fast/genuine sparring on the Internet looks nothing like the wing chun shown in slow motion. No one keeps their elbow in and it looks messy with chain punches, low kicks and not much else. No complete control of the opponent, as shown in videos like this. I am not rubbishing WC, I just would like to see something that works at high speed.

But basically you are right. Every System has own waknesses.. To "collect" ervery good part of different styles and forget the weak parts of them is my way to handle it. of course i cant say i am a good boxer or i am a good jiuka but in the end i can say "i am a good fighter" thats all what is important. greets :)

This comment shows that you dont know much from WC. Its okay you dont have to. But please dont be aggressive against the system if you are not informd good enough. The stand in WC not allows to be kiked if its done correctly. Of course there are good and bad practicer...look for the good ones and be neutral while watching. have a nice day, greets.

In real time, this technical perfection would break down completely. People think that if it works in slow motion, it will work in fast motion. This is a fallacy. In fast motion, with an unpredictable opponent, you would never leave your head there and try and block every punch because punches at close range would be under reflex time. No one could do that.

That's a different story. But what's the importance of a master when a non experienced person stands with him in controlled sparring situation? But anyway, student/master teacher phychology kicks 99.9% of the time and the rest is one of the same: master/teacher does what he wants over the student seeming invincible.

people have to understand that martial arts such as wing chun won't be much more effective then things like boxing or muay thai, simple striking systems like that unless you are a master. if you completely master wing chin you will be a very dangerous person. this takes years, don't expect someone to be an assassin or something after taking wing chun for a year or two

the people who can't generate power are generally those that don't understand their "power from relaxing" thing. And the wing chun punch doesn't generate any power if the person isn't relaxed, but when they do get it, it's quite impressive :P but yes, alot of people don't know how to generate power, can't argue with that.

yeh well.. he is probably the best of the world... he used to train wing chun before he lost his hand... when the accident happened.. they told him he couldnt train wing chun anymore becuz of his hand... he went to hong kong and while searching for good masters he found wong shun leung whom he trained with until wong died.. and now hes probably the best in the world lol

hmm that may be true but i do still believe wing chun complete enough to be a good fighter.. i dont plan on fighting in the ring or something just some friendly fighting/sparring...but like i said i will see for myself how it turns out to be... u just might see some of me on youtube in the future... ive only been training for a year but im very dedicated :D

Would you honestly wanna take a guy down to the floor knowing it is highly likely his mates are going to kick the shit out of you? No chance, stay on your feet, hit hard, hit fast and hit first. Floor fighting is great in a controlled match, but the only thing that type of art should be used for in real life, is take down defence and learning to stand back up

Wing Chun is about self defence and staying on your feet, good stance, good balance etc, fast accurate hands to end a dangerous situation as quickly as possible, in a real situation only a moron drags a guy to the ground on the street, its just an invite for his mates to kick shit out of you, Wing Chun teaches you to end the fight before being taken down is an option

@adamchou Also, the mentality of a WC practitioner is usually if your opponent is not advancing, then you should be. Therefore, theoretically if your are close enough to be struck by hook you should be the one on the offensive driving your opponent into defensive action. Also, tight inside fighting should be a WC practitioner's comfort zone. Easier said then done.

gotta say tho, if you experience it properly (i.e. no mass commercial bullshit) wingchun is really a superior understanding of fighting that really works. Unfortunateley i only know of 3 sifus who can really explain wingchun in its raw and superior form, and they have not tried to make a name for themselves...

I dont prefer wc to other systems ...i trained much and i simply take all the good parts of every system and forget the weaknesses. in teh end i cant say i am a good boxer or a good wing tsun guy or a good jiu ka, but i can say i am a good fighter. thats what couts. :)

> watch?v=RXg0FFREzcg And that's all? Okey, now I'm sure, WT is totally shit. > but in te end its the fighter who wins or lose, not the style Oh, no. Same person with effective selfdefence style will protect himself more and more better than with some kind of exotic dance.

Did you ever try to touch a wing chun master when he doesnt want you to? I am a beginner in wing chun and I could not touch none of the people here who have a master degree (except their arms obviously) if they dont let me, it would be more probable for me to wake up in hospital than make it.

yes yes yes, ue points are valid, but!, stuff like this is hard to apply, even if thai boxing is regulated at the end of the day its still more easier and realistic to pull off, after all its punching and kicking and elbowing and clinches, wing chun is for experts