Wing Chun Trapping is BULLSH*T - Izzo Wing Chun 

Hands down the most practical wing chun that is out there. I did some Wing Chun back in 2014 for about a year with a guy from Sam Kwok's lineage during which I was taught the whole SLT form, it's applications, basic footwork, basic kick, punches, Chi sau, Dan Chi, 4 gates drill, and all of those, but we were never taught the realistic application of this art. No wonder my arse was getting kicked left and right by the MMA guys. Now with these kind of concepts that I'm learning from these videos, my very limited knowledge of WC has been exponentially polished. Somehow, I'm able to stand up against thai boxers with my basic WC the way I could never do it in past. Kudos to Izzo. Bring it on, man.

Yes, the bottom line is that every Wing Chun practitioner is seeking to hit the opponent. The only reason you ‘trap’ is because you can’t hit them therefore Pak Sau or Lap Sau would be used (Chi Sau context). In Gor Sau, trapping is used to cross-a-bridge to strike an opponent therefore the ‘traps’ can come before.

Totally agree with this and is the same way we approach it in our club. I think of wing chun trapping as an accident - it only comes into play after your attack is blocked/redirected. Keep up the good work with your videos - I've enjoyed watching them over the years!

Your work is important. You are bringing NEW LIFE INTO WING CHUN! Instead of it being the static, unchanging Chinese Monk art, you are making adjustments that make it a more relevant, more effective fighting art! I have become better at Wing Chun DIRECTLY FROM YOUR LESSONS. Very well done sir!

Very correct approach to trapping concept, it is meant to clear path for the final destination rather than chasing hands. In some cases against not experinced/ unexpected fighter, a hand immobilization approach (like buce lee jkd address it) traps can work by starting with a trap but against an in an out fighter like a boxer it can fail badly. But the safe and more succesful approach would be what you illustrated which will be clearing path after contact. Great content indeed.

Wing chun trapping is 100% NOT bullshit. In fact, no technique is bullshit. Every technique has a time and place. I’ve done trapping plenty of times during sparring, which is why I feel it isn’t bullshit. It’s such a huge pet peeve of mine when people say something won’t work. As a lifelong martial artist myself, I have grown to hate that saying. Everything has its moments.

Ohhhh!! Greetings Sifu Izzo it's me Vinny here in Albuquerque. It's been a bit of time since we last tawlked? Hope your doing good there in the Windy City. Things lately here in the past month and a half ? Has been crazy as im dealing with my mother's extensive back surgery in which ? She got 3 titanium screws and bolts along with a rod in addition while in the hospital in post op? She caught the virus and a infection in her back . Glad to see sir your still doing the great work and teaching the martial art I also love . I use to study with Phil Romero here a few years back. And unfortunately? Haven't been active with the Wing Chun lately but hope to get back at it and train some more once im able to find a school here that's reasonable rates wise. Anyway? I just saw this video ? And had stop by and say hello. Stay safe and healthy there with all that's going on out there huh? Im off to the Cucina to have some lunch . I will be looking to catch another video in the near future.

I love your channel bro, i'm glad you came back!!

This is the first video of yours I’ve seen and I love it your makeing me rethink my view on wing Chun you’ve just earns a sub

This is legit. Siu Lim Tao begins with establishing the root, finding center, punch on center. It doesn't start with pak, fook, gan... because if you hit the guy then you don't need anything else. Just keep hitting. That's good kung fu.

The wing chun world needs you Dom. Keep up the good work

Its funny how we train blocks for years and then sifu says: "dont block. Attack!" I think knowing what areas of your body you are presenting makes it possible for you to anticipate what the opponent can do, realistically. If I keep my hands on both sides of the head he punches down the middle, If my elbows are flared or high he might tackle etc. So we cover in range or during movement and attack. Blocking is second place where first is all that matters.

Blocks can be considered as strike. Like what you did on Bong Sau, you can see that the form and training made it look like a block but it is actually an elbow strike

Should ditch the word trapping altogether. Talk about clearing instead. Love it!

I agree with you on pre-planned attack and defend scenarios as it relates to traps. That is why I focus with my students primarily on responding instinctively to either a sucker punch or ambush type situations. In my opinion, you should never look for or try to set a trap. It is something that happen as a coincidence to your primary goal to launch a devasting attack

Hawkings Chung's Students Always applied Pressure, when i saw them. I so like this video . In the South we were always told, if you are going fight, fight till you finish it. I like the smothering the opponents tools that mr. Izzo talks about as well.

How to react properly in Wing Tsun for low kicks from mma or thaiboxing?

In karate we do something similar especially for what the karate nerd calls hikitae. I just always called it grabbing its fun to do but thats about it. Meeting up with a former amateur boxer im more confident now bringing one hand up to cover and throw a punch simultaniously which I practice then trying to grab the unknown. Even though wide haymaker telegraphed that or a defelction I think would work fine advancing forward. Still really love your concept of attack first focus on getting that strike in. Master Wong who I know demonstrates sruff on youtube for content purpose in controlled envirments if his punch was met with a deflection from the side hed trap with that same punching hand then strike with the opposite sometimes. I have however seen Wong when having a hand trapped or ( grabbed) if by a persons opposite side arm hed bend his elbow coming in with his body to trap and control. Reminded me a little of what you did. Still love your honesty and realism to share real stuff and arent just totally out there for views.

Every new video of yours has an important lesson. And I'm really starting to understand what you mean when you say trapping is post contact. Thank you and God Bless

Just practice all areas of Wing Chun and always think of improvement and the true reality between the class environment and the real fight. We all must remember that we are human beings like the next person. We are not trying to be better than the next person.We are trying to be better than ourselves. Being better people as martial artists, to benefit the community

I learnt that you had to move with the trap side to side an in almost like a deflection to assert whilst maintaining a strong position and good guard, also that your guard should be short and snappy guarding the neck and nose, with the hand a fist behind the other, one of the issues I found with bong sau being taught was as a block instead of an idea, I would personally choose to use it almost offensively as a set up for a lock or to pressure against a guard, also set up elbow techniques and guard against take-downs, this is a great video and anyone reading this I used to box and one thing I learnt that wing chun has as an advantage is that it's elbows and approaches, use wing chun's head movement, move side to side off line, jab with your cover from the outside, use a shoulder roll and stomp the hell out of their knee's, with a grappler or MMA fighter just imagine the chi sau bigger, use pummeling and your stance on the ground, understand your arsenal from their perspective, consider the other ways your techniques could be used, the stance, certain, elbow techniques, other concepts, lock's, it's all there just think about it.

This video makes PERFECT SENSE!! Thank you 👊🏾

rabbit punch is one of the all time classic "trap and hit" techniques. banned almost entirely across the board in sports. why? because not only does it work, it kills people. just watch a clip of a boxer explaining a rabbit punch and then look at the first fucking move of the dummy form. The point of trapping is "I can hit you and you can't hit me back." a gracie takedown is a trap...they just trap the whole body instead of the arm or hand. the top mount position is the ultimate trap setup in grappling. People are just too fucking stupid to understand what they are looking at and they won't test the shit . the reason why people can't make the chun work is because they don't know the difference between a tactic and a strategy. all arts have the same strategy , but differ in tactics. if you know what you are looking at when you watch the dummy form, you understand the idea of the "setup" , but you gotta understand the angles. this shit isn't "rock'em sock'em", thats what thai boxing is for. it isn't self defense, either. WC is the combination of "fighting like a dirty piece of shit" and shaolin body mechanics.

It's great to see you back in wing chun really a fan of your mindset going through the core of somebody

this is just another iteration on the video of the best explanation of wing chun on you tube . . . . still the best explanation of the core concept of wing chun out there

Fights usually happen different than most sifus teach, they train to fight against other WC fighters focus way too much on complicated chi sau and at my old school complex trapping that is easy to forget after practice. I think the simpler is better in a aggressive street fight… I think kicks are under utilized in WC .. so much power in a strong kick . Thanks for the video!

I enjoy Izzo Because of his honesty. He also does not have the average wing chun slender build. He talks real world applications.

Agreed. A teacher I visited in Hong Kong said to me trapping and chi sao only happens if you hit an obstruction. If the opponent doesn't stop you from wailing on them with a fence, then looking for the trap is actually chasing hands.

This guy and Adam Chan (also on RU-vid) show how Wing Chun can be properly and effectively used. Great stuff.

I'm not a student of Wing Chun but one thing I look for when it comes to seeking effective teachers regardless of the style, is emphasis on violent practical application, where many teachers are in love with theories and their imaginary concepts of what fighting is. If you see a teacher who forbids sparring, only demonstrates on compliant partners and doesn't accept challenges that is someone to stay away from, a bad teacher will leave you in a worse state than if you had no knowledge at all.

You are also evidence that I keep.telling people, the stronger, heavier, more powerful you are, the more effective Wing Chun becomes. Your skill PLUS your strength, body mass, and explosive power makes it more likely you will dominate the violent encounter, and as you say "WRECK" them!

We do simmilsr things in dumog (filipino wrestling, which is pretty much some rudementary wrestling and some jiujitsu techniques) we go and make contact and hold unto the arms and lower our center of gravity to give us more sdvantage in having more control and positioning.

In other words...Stop "chasing hands"

Many in wc/jkd also get blinded and want to do all that compound trapping they have been taught. In reality time is compressed have to make the opponent react (hit) then go from whatever the opponent does. As you stated if your in “straight defined mode” your behind and not attacking and putting pressure on him which is better than trying to pull off a double pak sao or pak/bong lap combination

Great video. Thanks for sharing your perspective on trapping.

Yes I agree, traps are used after the punch is thrown and your forearms make contact with there’s. I would never want to guess where his punch is going and try to trap the hand of the incoming punch. I like using trapping from a stand up grappling situation. I do internal kung fu, Chen tai chi, Bagua, and Xing yi. Have watched many of your videos and they’ve taught me a lot. Thank you!

When I saw the thumbnail-- I was about to strongly disagree with you--- but after watching it-- mASTERFUL-- this is an EXCELLENT explaination of the PROPER trapping!!! THANK YOU.... I wish you would put a link to that Pinnacle whatever--- I'm old, didn't catch what you said-- :)

I would explain a trap as a way to either quickly open a window to strike and/or advance "or" to hold a window open momentarily to continue a pathway to a strike and/or advance. *Simple way to look & understand it's meaning and intent.

Thank you so much for this informative look at this concept.

Blaming Calculus and Aerospace Engineering for your inability to put a satellite in orbit is appropriate.🤔

3:24 that’s true.. no difference whatsoever

it is actually make sense attack first then when contact was made then trap if necessary but when there's no barrier then continue attacking. Thanks Sifu Dom.✊

Another words, different tools, different situations. I think I"m on the right track then. Implement trapping techniques only when physical contact (i.e., the "bridge") has been established. Don't necessarily try to force it.

many "masters" take the techniques very serious, but the most important thing is the principle when you work it out.

With one word, amazing! thanks Sifu..

Like your common sense approach

This is awesome!

So glad you are back doing wing chun again

I agree I believe in creating reaction vs chasing hands I am also fighting on the blind side

Yet another thought provoking video.Great info.

I do really wonder who said trapping is bullshit really ever fought a real life person before? I'm almost knocking some random guy on a street with trapping and including some bully at my school. Fight is a fight no matter which technique as long as they're working; it fine.

Ip Man in the Movie got hurt a lot due to Tradition sty. Imagine Ip Man fight like Izzo Instead to Fight miura Twister Frank Scott adkin. Retired Police Officer and Tactics Expert can prove about How Ip Man in the Movies made a lot of mistake in The Movie fight Scences. And That is True because Ip Man hurt so badly as it show in the movies.

Great points

Muay Thai has many traps aswell but they seem more efficient in a street fight compared to wing Chun. because your trapping and throwing a devistating knee or elbow behind it

Harte Worte

Thank you.

Bruce never said take up a stance. This guy just hates Lee so much. Even in videos that have nothing to do with Bruce or jkd.

It is legit Just saying don’t compare a boxer cuz as soon you move forward , that jab is coming straight thru no matter how forceful is the opponent

Trapping is a necessity if done correctly you will out maneuver your opponent every time. If you are only worried about being forceful and making sure that your punches get through then you have missed the entire purpose of Wing Chun.

Thanks I turned into the water and the pole

Wing Chun is a concept based art not a technique based art. " be like water" Bruce Lee. There is no Chinese word used in Wing Chun for trapping. Chi sau is an idea. & so-called "trapping" is a situational circumstance that comes out of the 7 stars of kung fu. So call "trapping" exists in every style. In Wing Chun there is no body of techniques called trapping. Wing Chun is like tai chi not karate. Like Quan sau, it could be viewed as a technique, but on a higher level it is a metaphor for the idea of sil lin di da, "simultaneous attack & defenses" thus Quan sau is more of an idea than a technique. If u use it as a technique, it may work to an extent, but if u use it as an idea it will go further. Wing Chun has drills, but those drills illustrate concepts. Drills not techniques. The only techniques are Wu sau, Mon sau, pak sau, everything else is an idea. Example: Mike Tyson, trains peekaboo boxing, however he doesn't violate most of the principles of Wing Chun. He's front facing, ambidextrous footwork. Even his head movement from the hip, is in bil jee. He's just boxing(Cheung choi, the idea, not literal chain punches), no chi sau. That could be somebody's Wing Chun, because it doesn't violate the concepts of the art. Muay Thai is the same way. Most of the moves in Muay Thai are in Wing Chun. If u are moving forward & to the core. In a oversimplified nutshell that's Wing Chun. A body of concepts, not concrete techniques. "Be like water my friend"-Bruce Lee Wing chun is a counter art. You never try to do moves out of nothing. U let the stimulus determine your response. So your opponent tells u how to beat them. Close or at a distance. (The boxing from the pole is side body. It almost looks like jack johnsons bare knuckle stance.[cheung choi, the idea. Front facing chain punches are just one manifestation of the idea "cheung choi"])

Yet I feel the need of point of contact to Electrocute and Vibration my snake style is a constriction holds and I hold then think about the wind. He is lucky I felt sorry for him. And was able to well . It's 5 Venoms also. He couldn't stand. Wonder how they saved him. Oh my style was not Developed Fully Yet.

I get and even share most parts of your point ; what don't get however is why you call bullshit the very concept you're applying ? Why such self-depreciation ? it is beyond me

Be good to see a guy you are demonstrating with that can throw a real punch with speed and power such as a boxer.

Adaptability is what Bruce Lee taught. Apply ability is a necessity in any training system. The problem with trapping is what this instructor stated. That is on the grounds of expectancy when there should be no expectancy only preparation. I think he is wrong however about post-trapping. It should be trapping and post-trapping. When you move in with a trap first and strike it throws the average untrained Wing-Chun person of. Most people usually swing or move the arm that is being touched or grabbed this expectancy of basic reaction will allow for creating an open flow.

It'll only work if it survives in a REAL fight.

Exactly

decent vid. dono why u no like bruce lee. shouldnt he be your star?

Correct

Disprove their natty Cognitive Mechanisms not their dry, cut words of law.

Yep.. Once you've bridged

He can't fight in trapping range

Could anybody clarify this to me(?): The trapping concept wouldn't always have the purpose to clear the way and hit the target?? Hasn't it always been the goal? According to the video, what would be the wrong concept for trapping techniques?? In the opportunity, I leave thanks and I wish that Jesus, the Name above all names (Philippians 2), bless everyone here, and may you all feed from His Word and Salvation!

Ving chun, gung Fu, karate . Are. All man made. Fighting is fighting 🤜. It's timing, luck. All your training your soul out. Are all training, luck, timing and God. Everyone only demonstrate, and all comply. Nothing else period. It's like a kid playing guns. Or a knife collector yet vever ever having ever imagined in his wildest dreams having to use it or fight. Same with gun nuts. Shooting at dead static target's. When in reality you will piss your self and freeze up period. Of all the chl license , gun owners in mass killings, shooting spre. How many respond...how many...how many when in CPR. Really saved lives...how many...so that's why we went to ebd. Same guns. So in martial arts. It's unarmed mostly. Ok.. but not really.. how armed is your mind.. answer.. mostly never. Yet that's the true and only arment. Most men on earth can not even Puch. And hit. Few in the population can maintain control anger.few have any atletic speed agality. Most do not have the true fighting spirit of life and death. Most do not even imagine want to really fight. Or the last most disgusting, dlishonarable thing a person. Can do to another.to kill. So... where are we.. humm...a lot of dreams childesh boordom, immaturity. Greed. Selfesnes, fear. .. the few that can do not Care. The many want cannot. Will never. And continue to dream.those who teach do not know. Those who know do. And so it goes.....

Trapping works only at close range so your main strategy if you want to trap your opponent is to close the distance to make it work. Trapping will not work if you dont close the distance. Trapping will not work if your opponent is jabbing at you & using his footwork like muhammad ali, while youre not doing anything to close the distance.

Cannot agree more sir

izzo just learn how to box bruh

Your definition of Jut Sao is wrong. Combat Wing Chun is very good and could easily be mistaken for JKD. I don't think you understand Wing Chun at all.

You are clueless. Bruce Lee had it right. He saw the limitations of Wing Chun. He changed as he trained with bigger, western boxers. Go try your Wing Chun in a bar fight....you will get your a•• kicked. Spar with a boxer or just someone really coming in hard throwing multiple punches...not in slow motion. Wing Chun does work in slow motion.

WHY DO YOU CRITIZE WING CHUN??? WITH THESE STUPID TITLES.

PEOPLE THIS MAN IS NOT A HIGH SKILLED WING CHUN MAN. HIS INTERPRETATIONS ARE MEDIOCRE AT BEST.