Wing Chun vs 52 Blocks: a Fighting Style Comparison 

And I am amazing for not buying into this bullshit

@@huntingseasonison8249 your amazing for responding to a 9 yro comment 😂👌🏾

lol.first i never had a pissing match in my life sounds disgusting and if the flaws are not corrected they are far from redundant they are flaws all systems have them and should work to correct them wing chun is no different its not special it is a martial art made by man with all of man's imperfections so unless you can prove wing chun is a perfect system when learned the conversations would just go in circles,and if you didn't know i've practiced wing chum for many many moons competed with it so that allows me room to speak on its flaws

slenderfan338 i know exactly what a pissing match is what i did was add humor so it wouldn't be a argument its obvious your trying to bait one your comment seems to have to do more with the fact that you dont like what izzo does so instead of talking go to where he is and show us what you do talking is verbal fu which i don't get into in the world of fighting we all need each other nobody has the full thing

@slenderfan338 The fact Izzo has his Wu hand down at his chest says everything.

@@52blocksinfo 5:47 was everything 6URLY 🤣😂😂😂😂😂 TEASED TF OUTTA DUDE LIKE SON THATS WHAT U BE LOOKIN LIKE WHEN U KUNGFUUIN IN THE STREETS 🤣😂😂

Well said!!!

Well yes maybe in prisons not in real combat. Where other prisoner don’t know how to fight properly. Yeah I can understand that lol.

what the fuck do u mean???? lmfaoooooo its no proper way to fight a fight is a fight moron @@MrNpalapas

Angel East you sound completely ignorant lol

@@MrNpalapas Have you ever fought in prison?

@@cortion730 all the 52 block guys are fake martial art Masters of what battle in a 6x6 cell phone booth fight with no skilled opponets this black guy in vid is the only one of the 52 guys that had understood martial art concepts ,,mma above all that's what he is using boxing Kung Fu karate all big in the hood from the 60s on thats what he is preaching

One Love Good People

Humble wins every time

Too many people let their egos get in the way of learning. If you believe that you know all that you can, congrats, you Have learned all you can because you've shut yourself off to any new ideas or adaptations.

bladesociety exactly good observation

This is how we grow

I respect that.

and I respect what you do.

Absoluetely!

No....all martial arts are valid...apart from wing chun....its pure garbage...no decent real fighter in the world will tell you WC is a good style...its the worlds most least respected style...this guy is a much better striker than Izzo....but in fact the guy is a very average boxer....its just that Izzo is trying to use WC...it wont work on anyone except other WC men and drunks....Izzo is in fact ok....he can wrestle but he had wrestling and wrestling takedown defence to WC but still calls it "wing chun"...its not...once you mix martial arts you have then become an MMA man...(clue is in the title...mixed martial artist)

1fitkbox It is not the style that defeats an opponent, it is the practitioner. Just because you see an amateur boxer get beaten, how can you say boxing is a terrible style? Every Martial Arts form is valid. When you don't respect one, you get hurt! Master Izzo and Master Wong are great advocates of this principle.

@@johncarroll772 He says something along those lines in Longstreet.

@emmy lite If you think this statement is BS then you don't understand the statement.

Agreed ...🤙

you don't call style style, style is just like a limite of how you fight , who not take every styles best part into you and call your self the style not some techniques as style , as Bruce said be water , be formless , style is a frame that limites your high

Thanks for saving me from having to re say exactly what you did I have been trying to get through to these morons

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Meltiades TRUTH

Meltiades TRUTH

Respect

overall a good boxer is better with their arms than a good than a Taekwondo leg kick expert. their are slight advantages when a expert has more experience in a practical experience... but yes its the fighter at the same time... Peace out.

"IT`S THE FIGHTER, NOT THE STYLE". I can see why people believed that prior to UFC/Vale Tudo, but its been obvious for over 20 years that there are better systems. The best skill sets for sport fighting in a cage aren't necessarily the same best skill sets required for street combatives but I don't care how much of a hardass you are or how dedicated your training regimen, being a master of an ornamental martial art is not going to help you out against someone who practices the basics against a resisting opponent.

+slenderfan338 you can't adapt quick enough, if there are gaps you'll be knocked out before you can adapt.

And I'm talking in the way of you end up in a fight with someone who does 52 blocks but you have never fought someone who does this. And you haven't adapted your wing chun beforehand as you've never been up against anyone who fought in this style. Therefore you don't have the time to adapt .

rasgul OK sounds good

Yeah, that's how some people learn. They won't learn it any other way... Especially as they get older and more experienced... they start believing in their own greatness... and that's when they stop learning. Hence, that's why Bruce Lee always consider himself a student/teacher. Always a student although he is a teacher. Bruce Lee is truly inspirational.

I never said anything about him saying anything about bruce lee... anyways dude.

GetDamage It's his channel, maybe you should ask him about it... what he thinks of Bruce Lee.

GetDamage Oh, sorry. L'sean Armatrading. I thought your comment was to me, got mixed up. Sorry about that.

***** He did? Ok if he did I apologize. But I certainly remember where he said 'Bruce Lee wasn't a fighter he was only a martial arts actor.'

killuminativol1 water = fire

killuminativol1 Bruce Lee an actor

Bruce Lee was a badass. If he had lived longer we would have seen ufc styled events in the 70's.

Eric Waltz actor

bruce lee was an actor you moron.

Officer Dominick Izzo - The Warrior's Life good on you sir , you were in your right to discharge your firearm , but you chose to respect human life and that man's family , I wish their were more officers like you , I used to be a criminal , been in prison so I havnt been very fond of police in the past

Officer Dominick Izzo - Cop / Warrior / Christian

Officer Dominick Izzo - Cop / Warrior / Christian If all martial artist had that sort of exchange, oh boy !

Andrew Boreliz Absolutely true.

True we had a pro fighter in our gym that had lots of street fights til one day he got blown away. His name was Miguel Sanchez you can look up his record on boxrec.com. any one that claims to be a pro boxer that's where you would look them up boxrec.com. .that goes way back to jack Johnson. Miguel Sanchez beat some one up and they came back with a gun and killed him. He was a great contender. Check his record .

You can be as insightful as you want...

Tu Che' my friend..... Pick your battles....

+Andrew Boreliz Respect. To walk away from unnecessary fight/conflict is a wisdom, not cowardice. At the end our worst enemy is our own ego, pride and fear. (Of course, necessary fight is different, e.g. saving your love one) In Traditional Chinese, Martial Arts is written as 武術. The main word 武(Roughly translated as Martial), is combination of 止(Stop) and 戈(War/Fight/Conflict/Weapon). This, is also the main concept of Sun Tzu (孫子), Arts of War. A military strategy books written in ancient China and have the honour of being studied in West Point military school, etc and applied in business... (Fun Fact: Bruce Lee "Be Water" speech is combination of Sun Tzu, while his "abandon form" theory mainly comes from Lao Tzu老子 (Dao De Ching 道德經)

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so he is on the right path of learning, integration, taking what is useful.

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But Bruce Lee didn't even learn all of Wing Chun. The forms have footwork, the dummy as well, and the weapon sections.

​@@thevillageyidif you have to rank up or find the footwork then thats a big problem. Footwork is literally the root of everything

Thank you for sharing your story brother.

Exactly why we do not respect police. They are policy enforcers. No duty to the people

I'm so.sorry bro I hope you healed properly and get justice one day

Shame on that cop

A very expensive lesson. That's the problem with too many cops, they don't know how to fight.

Teaching here bud.

Or maybe I am one of those few who actually know how to make Wing Chun work and all the others make it look like garbage ;)

Izzo Tactical Combat Martial Arts TRUTH,because you are willing to explore you are way passed traditional wing-chun you are STARTING a new TRADITION in wing-chun,keep up the GD WORK…LGD

that is why Bruce Lee created Jeet kune Do

Hsing Yi he created JKD because it took him 3 mins to defeat someone and it was exhausting, and he coudn't take the blow to his ego and his incomplete version of wing chun, if he completed it, he might not have needed JKD, WING CHUN IS A COMPLETE SYSTEM

Izzo Tactical Combat Martial Arts dont get me wrong tho...I actually think youve got more idea than 99% of other WC men...with your grappling background...and at least your open minded to knew techniques and exchanging techniques...the first martial arts ever were in the fertilte cresent,north Africa , Nubian...ku ta...defender of the pharoahs...The Xia dynasty the first rulers of china...were black Africans who traveled thru Persia...taking Nubian fighting arts with them...this later spread thru Asia ..Chinese kungfu later came from it...from Heirogyphics..we can see Ku ta used exactly the same techniques as what modern MMA use, same submission grappling & punches, ridge hands,palm heel strikes..so the first styles in the world...and later pankration ect that spartons and Alexanders arny used...WAS just like modern MMA techniques..thats the way MA were ment to be..any style that fights properly..will fight like this eventually...styles like WC that never fight..never need to know how ineffective it is

+terrainaholic apsolutly i think your spott on :)

There are probably some wing chun silat hybrid probably in malaysia called silat lian....their are few more new hybrid type of lian like lingkaran lian,lian padukan etc....but most of them queit refine due to they are coming to malaya in late 18 and keep evolving....

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52blocksinfo do you still sell the dvd's? and where can I purchase it?

Thanks brother

Me to

JKD is less reliant on blocks and more reliant on lead hand and lead leg strikes. It's more about interception by attack than defense by block. Granted, JKD also relies on boxing style movements, similar to 52 Blocks, but strategy-wise, it has more in common with Savate and fencing, where 52 blocks has more in common with western boxing and hand techniques of Silat.

I study nubian wu kungfu dealing with bone alignment and form well as science and much more I study leopard and crane I meet a guy who saw me practicing my martial arts at a park this guy understood the footwork and circle motion and he put a stop to me from circling around

best of what?

very well said....FOOTWORK is very important...LGD

Lyte Burly has incredible footwork and mobility.

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Sandland113 there are more similarities to jeer Kune do , one reason. Is the variety of ranges you can fight from. I’m a Jun fan jeet kune do student , peace

@@oldschoolkarate-5o Sorry for getting this response a year late but I have seen many Wing Chun videos here on RU-vid and I have seen other fighting systems and I try to compare wing Chun to other martial arts and Wing Chun in MY OPINION is in the bottom of the barrel because you might have lightning speed hands in a fighting but you are fighting against a person who has no fighting technique but has been in a fight and won and lost some when it comes to Wing Chun,BUT if you're a Wing Chun fighter and you're against let's say Mike Tyson you would be demolished because his style of fighting has power,Wing Chun doesn't!

@Sandland113 i have a different view of Wing Chun, i agree it lacks power and range lacks grappling , I think it was originally a bladed fighting system for knife fighting , because the lack of power and close range however with two knives and it’s almost like Kali/ Escrima . thanks for your reply, i don’t have any evidence that Wing Chun was at one time a weapon system

@@oldschoolkarate-5o I have no martial arts experience at all but if I was in a ring with an inexperienced fighter I would use Wing Chun,If I an experience fighter I would use another martial art!

@Sandland113 jun fan jeetkunedo incorporates muy thai and western boxing , why i like it better than wingchun

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That's boxing for ya

SALUTE..YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH

SALUTE

Awesome.

TRUTH

I agree with adaptability. I would also ad however that a dog only has one weapon and it works. Mike Tyson can't beat everybody but he can definitely rely on his weapon. Have many tools yes , but be sure one of your tools is a weapon. That's Solid Self Defense.

***** lol a guitar is very complicated to learn my friend. If wing chin is complicated to learn then it won't be effected when ANS takes over autonomic nervous system . Your heart will beat at 175 beats per minute and your fine motor skills are out the window. You wouldn't be able to tie your shoe laces are put a key in a key hole. Not like a comfortable setting with friendly scenarios as seen here. Battle tested is extremely important when choosing a combat method. I won't use the word fight because if you look the word fight in the dictionary it means to struggle with some one or something.

***** I am familiar with wing chun I studied the lineage of Grandmaster William chun . I have studied Thirteen disciplines and own a boxing gym where I allow all types of sparring matches to take place. The arts with complexed moves do very poor against brutal sports. Jkd guys do terrible against experienced muay thai guy. Wing chun guys have done poor against experienced boxers. Take kwon do guys have done terrible against my boxers. There were somethings in wing chun that helped me with boxing. But without brutal training at some point in your life its all just moves. Grant it if you stay brutal for too long you can become punch drunk or worst. But I recommend to at least train that way for a couple of years minimum.

GrandmasterElixon i agree

*chameleon

+anythingnew or mike Tyson from Ip man 3

he isn't talking shit

Peter Johnson Whoops sorry didn't know this was the wanna be tough guy chat, he doesn't talk shit and from what i can see you aren't talking to anybody directly.

Peter Johnson Its I would not I will

Peter Johnson Does your dad know you are talking like that?

I think you missed the moral of the story. It is make the fight yours and not have the style make you. I have not changed my footwork, my movement, etc. Lyte is the absolute best at what he does...I cant move like him or fight like him. But I am the absolute best at what I do. I am me.

Izzo Tactical Combat Martial Arts yes your correct...YOU havent changed your footwork...but we arnt watching your striking because WC striking is rubbish...we are watching his...and the reason he beats you and other WC men easily is because ALL decent boxers will...All boxers are hard skilled men and are great st fighters, in every town for years modt the the hardest best street fighters around were boxers..now MMA men are generally the hardest in the street. In WCs biggest ever tournament in history,...the Ip man cup...every single WC man in it uses western boxing..not chain punches and trapping...in San shou, they are allowed to use chain punches and trapping..not 1 fighter does,the all use western boxing...in mma..they are allowed to use chain punches and trapping...non do ,they all use western boxing,wrestling, bjj,muaythai...Lyte would get flattened quickly off any decent MMA man or decent boxer,Lyte in the world of full contact is nothing...he looks impressive because he hangs in the world of WC men... its like an Australian crawl stroke swimmer...mixing with doggy paddlers..of course they are gonna think"wow"..this guy is good...if you had sparred any decent mma man or decent muaythai man...youd say the same...but you havent...your a good wrestler, be proud of that...that alone will beat 99% of all WC men...

Izzo Tactical Combat Martial Arts there isnt even such a range as "trapping range"...its an artificial range named that by styles like WC that trap...all styles fight at your "trapping" range..they just dont trap...a boxer just punches at trapping range,a muaythai man might elbow or lead in clinch, a wrestler might slap & grab or shrug...in kali /eskrima..trapping sticks has a relevance...but still isnt used much..(I had 2 kali fights )..in empty handed..there are much superior techniques to use...and all fighters everywhere use other techniques...

D Patrick hehehe...did you just make all that up as you went along...hehehe...what a pile of poop...English pugilsm was well established in the UK in the 1600s...theres many reports of English officers in Shanghai port in the 1700-1800s (they all practised pugilsm.)..challenging & beating kungfu men on the docks...Boxing is the oldest of ALL fighting arts..alomg with wrestling...this isnt a theory...its a fact...the Eygptians with Ku ta used fist boxing strikes and had competitions in a mixed martialarts style...Pankration used boxing with knees, elbows,kicks , eye throat strikes and submission grappling...do a bit more real history reading and wake up out of trappy slappy land

D Patrick Um no....

exactly. he finally saw how flawed it is and called it "holes". eventually he is going to find more and more holes and patch them up with western boxing, fencing, and other martial arts. lol

I don't really believe so much of that crap about any style being better then other. Its more about who trains what. I can't really see someone stepping back after a blocked hook that quickly if both fighters are about the same height. Also if someone is fast enough WC won't work as any other style and nor will any footwork help you. Since you won't be able to keep up with the guy. Its about who uses what and how he uses it. UFC is a great example where we have tons of fighting styles in diffrent weights and the top 1's change over time. People like anderson silva who stay undefeated are just BEASTS. Bruce Lee is another type of BEAST. If someone thinks they can be bruce lee even if they had exactly the same type of tranning they need to throw themselves from bridge. Personally I like all the styles, mainly boxing but that dosen't mean I think some WC or muay thai is not as good enough. And to your knowledge Bruce Lee never dropped wing chun. More like the teacher IP dropped on him. Since he trained with him for not so long as he didin't like Bruce due to his personality and he wasn't fully chinese. If you read some documentaries you will find out he only told Bruce the basics and later on he came back to him in order to learn more but IP refused. Even then Bruce kept on using Wing Chun in hand combat. You may not see it due to the fact he used a lot of kicks as well but in short distance he always refered to WC. Theres a lot of video prove for it.

Spidi8666 "I don't really believe so much of that crap about any style being better then other" Thats because you are either a dumbass or a dumbass troll. You really think a boxer has an equal chance against a BJJ fighter? Stupid!

Dan0101010101010 Seen many boxers taking down other style without any problem. Also seen other styles taking down boxers without any problems. JKD is not a style either, its collection of styles. That toally diffrent story ^^

Exactly

Sarcast any VIDEOS of y'all doing?

Sarcast But you're not supposed to use your hips when punching in wing chun. Alined structure always.

52blocksinfo do you know where I can find classes in New York?

just contact me

52blocksinfo how will i contact you?

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fuck

You = Idiot.

shorinteacher I feel sorry for you.

shorinteacher Let's spar shall we? :)

LoveOnTheWire Full contact.