Wing Chun vs Jeet Kune Do Techniques 

Sifu David - Wing Chun, Tai Chi, JeetKuneDo well i wold say 50% vs 50%

Amazing video bro

thanks!

Sifu David - Wing Chun Master of Online Training i'll have to disagree with this vid... I know that youre a good martial artist... The origins of Jeet kun do is from Bruce lee's experience on learning other martial arts style.... Jeet Kun do is wingchun but mixed with other martial arts type, like MMA... Bruce studied wingchun and combined it with other martial arts that he studied... so Jeet Kun Do is a part of Wing Chun....

Sifu David - Wing Chun Master of Online Training as i explained Jeet Kundo is Wingchun... They are both a system....

-Bruce lee

@@Bobby-ke6tc bro I swear I was about to say that 😂😂

You don't need to worry! *You just need to right the legend's name after the completion of the statement*

Wing Chun is better.

Your correct JKD was Bruce Lee self expression. However, like Dan Inosanto the only Jkd instructor certified by Bruce Lee to teach it once said “JKD can be taught but not standardized”. This means that two people can be taught the concepts and principles (techniques) of JKD and in a fight both of those peoples JKD will look different.

Thank you for recording what you know on the internet. I appreciate you.

Cen Jake a person can take an art and make it their own.

tai chi is good too.

Yoga has a lot of similarities to traditional martial arts. I've done both in my life and was surprised of the crossover when I started yoga.

you and me both man,ive also added cane fighting techniques,knife fighting and some other things. a teacher of mine years ago told me that the only arts worth learning was those that could still be done when a person is 89 years old and both kali/arnis and wing chun fills that roll perfectly. were do you live as i could use a good practice partner,i am in Ohio ?

Old Yoga was actually a martial art, mostly kept secret to the inner circles of the court. Young princes started to learn stuff we learn in modern Yoga, and while aging shifted towards Kalaripayattu or similar arts.

But not for self-defense! It is good for exercise.

Michael Vendick no. The footwaork was adjusted to be able to fight on junkboats. The longpole form was also added to the system during that time

Yes. Since the opera they did was done on boats, they lived and trained there as well.

WIng chun is a Lady, so the wing chun is originally lady stance..

Google rote Dschunke

you're WRONG.

that is correct my friend , her name was...Ng Mui.(Shao lin Monk)

@@ianweir2115 - Now I am familiar with Ng Muy. The teacher of Wing Chung. I learned it as the teacher was a Shaolin Monk. Though never learned what she taught to Wing Chung was crain style, or some variation. I had not heard it primarly being used to fight on boats either. I heard it was kind of a blend of the advanced aspect the monk had learned. Some books have even associated it to other aspects of Shaolin. Though I will say that the way most people do W.C. to me seems to eliminate a lot of kung fu aspects we would normally see in other styles. Though, then again I learned mine differently. Though i have seen other schools of W.C. seem to each do things differently in many ways.

mine once said it's not about what style you used, it's about who was the one eating dirt by the end of the fight.

Are you quoting the movie ip man?

@@Seroquel- i know, in Ip Man 1 right?

That is true

Be water my friend

Yea and as Bruce Lee originally learned Wing Chun so some the techniques must imply to JKD right?

SRN Yes. Its the foundation

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@Joel 1 In close quarters I recommend the Keysi fighting method

*I train in JKD and love it. It's truly awesome but like Sifu David said, it's even better if you're a fast person as it suits your ability to further improve it.*

He was never a master! Stop saying that! He never mastered wing chun or any other systems! To master something, you must know the whole system, and he only knew bits-and-pieces of several systems. He was a sifu at best!

@@mightymeatmonsta he created jeet kune do, how was he not a master? He took what he found useful and discarded the rest

@@hairyplotter1121 good answer, that was his advice to other Martial Artist

Thank you

But u can change ur shape

sir,are you jeet kune do teacher ?.i want to learn jeet kune do

Precisely. I think that because Bruce did tend to favor the stance depicted people tend to forget that it was not the "jkd" stance..it was just in his preferable free-flowing nature to assume it for game ;)

Cleveland Stamps agreed

Garton311 this the comment ever💯💯

Just....bravo

form without form, style without style, be like water ^.^

Garton311 this was the best explanation I’ve ever heard from anyone... thank you for sharing. I appreciated your commentary.

Great point... start with a mirror. Do you have long legs, tall and thin? Your style should match those strengths. Short, squat, and a bit heavy? That requires a different style... At the gym 4 hours a day, a meat wall of living muscle ? another different style. The most important weapon is yourself, and your mind: know places, situations, and times that are dangerous, and avoid them when possible. ... Minimize your risks and gain your maximum advantages. Working late puts you out on the subway at night ? Grab some work, take it home with you - leave in the day light. Go to work earlier in the morning. More crime & trouble happens late at night and on weekends. Always plan ahead to first avoid danger and dangerous people when possible.

How did you choose krav maga and jeet kune do?😂😂

krav maga XD XD XD this is ... very good XD

@@permanentlybored195 Both are for street fights but JKD philosophy is deeper than Krav Maga. Regardless studying both would make you a deadly fighter since a lot of they techniques are made to take out the opponent the most efficient & quickest way possible.

To a certain degree yes

@@JackkROYAL Indeed, only to a certain degree. Strength does matter when your opponent is much stronger than you because your stronger opponent can get away with lots of things whether it be striking or grappling.

- Big pun

One Martial Art can be regarded as being more effective than another depending on what the practitioner wants to use it for. Each Martial Art was created to solve a particular problem. A police officer would do well to train in certain arts and abstain from others.

Its your kung fu style if you are beginner rokiee or expert.

Ramon De Jager Very wuse words ,well said...

While there isn't an absolute winner, there're styles that're inferior to others, since they were designed to counter them, such as Chinese styles that're more circular to get around the more linear Japanese styles (not stating that Chinese styles're better than Japanese). Another example would be grappling vs. long-range kicking (Judo/JuJutsu vs. Taekwondo). The kicking style isn't trained on defending against grappling and/or ground fighting, so they're heavily weak to them.

YOU ARE RIGHT

Yes and no. It's a lot more balanced. If you use tan sau towards center or shoulder area against a non Wing Chun style hook punch it will collapse ... So that's good to at least know about tan sau, that said he didn't tan sau either he used a weird long range pak like in Shaolin ... But Shaolin is the parent of wing Chun like wing Chun is the parent of jkd do you know all of them? How many styles of Wing Chun do you know? It's clear there are several. Some turn shoulders off some even roation off and strike with bone structure to increase sensitivity and it actually is extremely rapid ... But as far as that hitting hard it depends, sorry. Relaxing you can hit extremely hard with a short relaxed fist using bone structure that's all true. That is true. But as far as chambering, elbow energy is a core thing for power either way ... Rotation or not. Many styles of wing Chun opt for more muscular movement ... This is true ... If you don't think so I'm not surprised but whatever. Why are they different? Because people continued to work on sensitivity to pressure until they came out with the style you are using. It resembles the first form. You DO chamber in that form ... So your idea just went out the window. But sometimes you barely do or almost don't I guess ... That's the first style the little idea. The point is not to give any cracks and to find their cracks ... By not opening up at all in your structure torque or posture. Use as much sensitivity as possible. This is a well known style of wing Chun and legitimized. But you don't rely on a lot of torque. Every next form you learn in Wing Chun pivots. You know this. You are taught it's a mistake. It's an accident. It's for when you are losing. Maybe. But it's not. It's something all fighters understand. You are just using your torque in your body, pure and simple and you are doing it to generate power. As far as Wing Chun doing things that are similar to intercepting fist... Yeah I agree. The only difference is in Wing Chun you can't say you don't defend and attack at the same time. You can say you are not supposed to chase hands. You can say you are not supposed to just defend. You are supposed to attack. But there are plenty of mistakes in lineages of wing Chun I won't insult people. One is an interpretation of "If the door is open, go in" That's true if it's open attack if it's blocked stick and crash. But someone out there told people wrongly if the door is open a billion feet away out of range forget angling and just walk in a straight line using a chain centerline punch. I don't know who he was it she was, but we hate whoever that is. Bruce Lee does blade, blading extends the range considerably for the intercepting fist that is clearly already a central part of Wing Chun. Something different about Bruce Lee was his speed but his power too. Bruce wouldn't just land a lunch before you did ... With this good explanation here .... But he would land it hard enough to interrupt your structure and knock you back, hitting extremely hard too ... Before you did. That's why he doesn't block he is absolutely wailing on them just about knocking them all the way over, they can't finish their attack and that's a fact. In my humble opinion it's best to learn all of Wing Chun though I admit Bruce didn't ... All of jkd and Shaolin if you are interested in any of it, it's very related and the movements of one bleed into another and help you adjust in real life if you use any of those three arts. I bet people might agree that trained all three ... I bet. I don't know. Sure in malls they are taught together. Why learn Jeet kun do ... Learn the parent art Wing Chun! Dude I felt the exact same. Bruce Lee is so amazing but I want to learn the parent art all the way! True. But ... Down the line ... Having learned Wing Chun .... I think you'll just want Jeet kun do. If not whatever, but ... Wing Chun is really a great gate blocking art that never just gate blocks and usually is just attacking sticking messing with structure and balance and position, pivoting and positioning in flanking areas with a square facing stance. Sure. But that is WAY close. Hence why it's good you are basically striking Inna critical range, a concept of jkd. Anyway. They are both good. If you use Wing Chun though at some point you'll want more range speed and versatility. Jkd and Shaolin round out wing Chun and are the parents and child arts. If you want to start saying "I only want to learn Wing Chun," cool, you're just like me. If you still love Bruce Lee cool you're still just like me. But once learned you should see that you need to use wing Chun well when there's no contact ... Not just when there's contact. Speed and range ... Sparring ... Not relying on only sticking .... If course that's important. Bruce Lee is only helping. He didn't finish all the styles due to race hate since he was 25 percent German. That fueled a passion to be different in him. But you should actually learn all of wing Chun ... Really ... As well as all of jkd for sure it will only help you .... For sure .... And maybe even Shaolin. I mean ... I did. But whatever.

To correctly tan against a fuk go towards their shoulder. To correctly tan against a hook punch ... Hit the hook at a 90 degree square angle directly absorbing while at the same time spreading so you don't absorb it ... And the elbow energy roots to your center mass or spine .... directly ... Or it will collapse even then. It does not root to your shoulder, your center. If you go towards their shoulder like a fuk sau that will work against Wing Chun ... And that does not work against a hook punch. Everyone has seen the 90 degree tan sau somehow somewhere I think I might have seen IP use it if not I'm wrong but it's in all the movies as well. Look. Just because it works one way in a drill or form and you should understand it completely that's how it works ... It doesn't mean you don't adjust it to keep it from collapsing with attacks from different angles. Try it! That said Thai was the parent of Shaolin, Shaolin is the parent of Wing Chun if Wing Chun is not Shaolin ... Jeet kun do is the sibling of Wing Chun .... And Jeet kun do uses American boxing as well sometimes ... Which Thai adopts. It's a very full circle thing. And yet ... At the core ... Karate kickboxing Sanda basic Shaolin not the animal forms ... They are all done relatively the same. But Wing Chun has a lot of unique abilities ... So does Bruce Lee!

Well, wing chun does not have flashy kicks, so that's wrong. Wing Chun is indeed the basis for JKD. Bruce had an intermediate step between, which used a blade stance rather than a square one, added the backfist, a natural for wing chun, and eliminated crossing the hands past the centerline, which is common in classical wing chun. It also minimized pivoting. It also emphasized strong-side forward, unlike wing chun and almost every traditional martial art. He focused on the straight lead, as talked about by boxer Jack Dempsey in his book. He also developed his own version of the one and three inch punches with James Demille. JKD was put together with a modified wing chun as its core, with large additions of fencing footwork and strategy, plus boxing. Lee eclectically picked up whatever different things suited him from that point, but that was the core of JKD, and without which JKD would be random and unrecognizable. The Filipino stuff, etc., was all Inosanto and not emphasized by Lee during his teaching years.

@Deep Thunks Bruce Lee believed in Wing Chun centerline but he had a different way of defending it. He used boxing head movements to move his centerline out of the line of attack. This is a no no in traditional Wing Chun. He also ditched Wing Chun footwork as he believed it to be too rigid. He felt it lacked mobility and power. He used his own form of footwork derived from boxing and fencing with a little Wing Chun structure. This allowed him to put more power in his attacks and move faster along with more fluidity. This was forbidden in Wing Chun because balance and efficiency was seen as more important. Bruce discouraged blocking but he said there's cases where it works. He illustrated some circular blocks in his books. There’s no blocking in Wing Chun. Traditional Wing Chun emphasizes straight line attacks. This is because they land faster than other types of attacks. Bruce Lee believed you should attack at any angle and with power. He used crosses, finger jabs, hook punches, haymakers i think, hook kicks, roundhouse kicks, etc. His kicks came from Savate and some Taekwondo. Bruce actually used horizontal boxing punches and snapped them. Traditional Wing Chun doesn't do this. Bruce believed in adding whatever works to your arsenal like biting, headbutting, grappling, etc. In Wing Chun, you’re supposed to constantly go after your opponent until you defeat him or her. Bruce discouraged this and emphasized proper control of distance. In traditional Wing Chun, you're not supposed to use force against force. Bruce believed that you should fight against force if your force is greater. Traditional Wing Chun puts emphasis on parrying and countering at once. Bruce took inspiration from fencing and made the timing faster. He said the best defense is a strong offense. You counter-attack before your opponent can even begin an attack. He said you should attack first rather than wait for your opponent. In Wing Chun, there's no hitting first. Bruce believed that generally you should kick below the waist but if there’s an opportunity to kick high, take it. There's no high kicks in Wing Chun because it wastes time and energy. The only things Bruce Lee kept was the Wing Chun dummy, some flow drills, sandbag training, etc. That's about it. He only used Wing Chun principles as a guiding basis for his Jun Fan Gung Fu. In some ways, he followed them. In other ways, he violated them.

Wrong. JKD is based off of Kung Fu.

@Deep Thunks Yeah, I know. I realized my screw-up right after I posted it a gazillion times. Sorry about that.

@Deep Thunks Thanks, I appreciate it.

No, some systems are just better than others and some just suck!

@@mightymeatmonsta lmao

no This is what Martial artist researcher has said

Not everything has a beginning or an end a circle has neither. the foundation of all martial arts is circular based.

Good morning Happy Diwali

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Docinaplane, truck bumper idea?

Your lineage goes through chinese Bruce to African American Joe Lewis? You must have quote a family tree.

Is it true you cannot kick in wing chun?

Docinaplane Like shifting punch?

Docinaplane try 5 color papers on string blown by a fan hit colors in same reps and develope speed

Kay Foong fuck you

The fencing stance SUCKS, big time! It is weak and puts you off balance! No, you are wrong! There was no Ng Mui or Wing Chun! They never existed! No, again you are wrong! JKD uses linear movements, traditional wing chun uses angled stepping and a body rotation towards the attack so you can catch it and counter safely.

Ah...mostly right on, EXCEPT there were 5 senior monks that escaped the Southern Temple before all could finish learning the system known today as "wing chun" in order to fight the OPPRESSORS who learned from the Northern Temple after that temple gave up with VERY LITTLE RESISTANCE. SO--- One was a nun named Ng who taught as well as 4 others- I wish I saved the footages... but I have seen the inheritors and footage/and or pictures of the styles of Wing Chun AND ALL HAVE NOTICEABLE DIFFERENCES and training techniques, however the concept and forms are almost identical. Very correct you are about chain-punching!!!!---there is WAAAY TOO MUCH AND TOO MANY doing just that when the system includes MANY DIFFERENT STRIKES AND FLOWING ARM MOVEMENTS- JUST LOOK AT THE WOODEN DUMMY TRAINING PEOPLE!!!! AROUND 116 TO 118 FLOWING MOVES YET YOU SEE MOST PEOPLE EXHIBITING ZERO FOOTWORK JUST HOLDING ARMS OUT AND GETTING THEIR ASSES KICKED BECAUSE THATS ALL THEY DO ASIDE FROM STUPID CHAIN PUNCHING ONLY!!!!!!!! THEY HAVE BEEN TAUGHT WRONGLY AND POORLY!!!!! AND LITERALLY THEEEY THEY ARE STUPID TO TRY TO FIGHT USING CHAIN PUNCHES WITH ZERO POWER ONLY AS WELL AS NON-EXISTENT FOOTWORK ETC. It's a damn shame and no wonder most understandably think WC sucks and is ineffective. WC WAS CREATED TO DEFEAT ALL OTHER KUNG FU- AND A REAL PRACTIONER CAN DESTROY ANYONE EASY ( BRUCE LEE ) UNLESS THEY ARE TAKEN TO THE GROUND AND HAVE ZERO GROUND TECHNIQUES. LOOKUP "SHAMO69" "SIFU KANISHKA (and find clips of him showing WC techniques- as he knows a few styles BECAUSE HE WENT TO SHAOLIN. You'll see the difference in all these people and also may wish they got in the ring so the VAST IGNORANT MASSES could see WC is truly a DEVASTATING STYLE- again THAT'S WHAT IT WAS CREATED FOR!!!!!!!- QUICK DEVASTATION OF PEOPLE) See those and stop wasting time watching vs when it comes to WING CHUN. PEACE AND GREAT TRAINING TO ALL.