Sand. Always carry a couple of buckets with sand. Trucks dont have a lot of traction, especially if they are not fully loaded. Trucks dont get stuck because they cant push the snow aside, but because they dont have traction. When I was a truckdriver we always carried sand or gravel in the winter. Much easier than the snowchains. I have been stuck on the Brenner a few times, but the easiest solution is to just look at the weather in advance and start a 9 hour mandatory sleepbreak when you hit a snowstorm. Southern Europe only ! Scandinavia you have to learn to deal with the snow. Appropriate tires, practice the snowchains, Coolingtime of tires etc. But boy it was fun to be a truckdriver :-)
Need there only Finish or Norvegian trucks with their knowin about winter trafic and winter wheels, no problem. I know I am finish and bee there many times when drived 20 years international. Middle european truck had summer wheels, no differential lock and driver no knowin of driving over ice and snow.
Any nationality has have drivers that screw up. If you new the history of the continent, how many times that efn Poland stoped the eastern hordes from invading the rest of you, there would be no efn Europe. Your freedom at the cost of our blood. Joke is on you tamasmalin.
5:50 Ahhhh the familiar sounds of driving on thick ice buildup...... We get that pleasure a few times every winter, and God help you if you don't have a newer vehicle with good suspension. True North Canadian here! great video!
The authorities made a mistake by not forcing all the trucks to the outer lanes in time. This is the first thing to do, otherwise you get 1 single truck and a 50 km queue of 1000 passanger cars, vans, minivans, SUVs etc. behind it.
Bersus Actually, it was one of the worst hours I remember in my life. There was a moment I wanted to take my family and walk to the exit of the tunnel. What can you do? Convince dozens of drivers to turn off the engines? Unreal. The only thing that comforted me was the natural draft that probably resulted from the difference in entry and exit levels of the tunnel. A really fucking situation...
PS The problem is that tunnel fans did not turn up at all. There were 20m ahead of us and they were whirling slowly driven by natural draft. The smell of exhaust outside was unbearable. Only that I have a cabin carbon filter which I switched some time on for a few minutes let us survive somehow. The worst is the helplessness of the situation because you can not do anything unless you leave the car and walk. As I now watch the movie, it does not look scary, but those were really bad times.😬
@@ArturKomorowski we got stuck for 18 hours in the alps a couple of years ago. i know exactly what you mean with scary. you feel helpless and just sit there, nothing you can do. we were all adults, and what keeped me cool was that i knew that there were people there suffering a lot more than me. kids, elderly, sick etc.
Wow miles and miles of parked Big Rigs..looks like a couple of them will be there until spring..those single axle cab-overs lol. You rarely see C.O.'s in the States anymore. Back in the mid 80's I owned an International C.O. 9670 with a 300 Big Cam Cummins doing flat bed work. It was a great little puddle jumper lol.
The reason you see so many cab overs in europe is because cities here the roads was built before the invention of cars so they are usually alot narrower than in the states
The one and only reason you don't see other than cab over in the EU is length, ie overall length of the tractor trailer. The restrictions more or less put any other combination out of business apart from novelty and specialty short trailer or loads .
And the 2018-2019 winter was considered “a below average winter” in the western side of the alps. I wont argue about that because feb 1 was one of the only days with good snowfall that winter.
What did I miss? Were the roads icy, that caused everybody to stop? There wasn't enough snow on the ground to prevent anyone from driving at the beginning of the video. Toward the end, there was more snow piled around the vehicles blocking the road, so a plow couldn't get through.
Beautiful scenery. I've never been stuck but my brother has. He had a Golf and nearly 2 feet of snow. I did get a little stuck in 1.5 feet, I had bold tyres and eventually managed to get going.
There is always this one guy .. " I am better then all of you I don't even know why you've stopped your trucks I'll keep going !" .. gets stuck like everybody else, blames it on a random fact
Why drive a truck in Europe in the winter, if all you do is sit in back-ups like this? We have snow storms in the US but we salt, plow & chain up to deal with it & keep moving . Single screw trucks usually stay in the warmer parts because they get stuck so easy. And we tow & fine drivers that are unprepared to drive in winter conditions.
So I am fully rigged wintry tiers , chains thermal underwear , Coffey same as the 2751 trucks in front of me. Truck 2752 in front as all the same but no chains so is stopped how did my chains help ?
I was under the impression that you had to have winter tyres and tyre chains to go over any of the European mountains I know I had to have snow chains going montblanc in winter time and winter tyres so what's the big problem have the drivers gone soft or wot.
Michael Baker - there are no winter tyres for big trucks. Chains - yes, but installed on typical all season tyres. Trucks in USA / Canada are usually 3 axle - one for steering and two for traction. As prices of fuel are drastically higher in Europe, trucks here are two-axle only. And it is much, much less effective I snowy conditions, as there’s not enough traction for a heavy load.
Italy: "Although it is not obligatory to carry snow chains on board the vehicle, they must be fitted when crossing Alpine passes in winter and on all other snow-covered roads in compliance with the relevant road sign. A minimum of one pair of chains must be fitted per vehicle."
I don't understand why every truck is single axle drive no traction.They should be bogie drive would have a lot better chance of grip. They should all have chains as well...
Winter tires wouldn't change a thing. February, I had proper brand new winter tires under the truck. Got stuck as well. Little bit of sand and salt under the wheels and voila, good to go.
Some countries using chains on a big roads is illegal. In finland if you put chains and drive to highway that costs you atleast 170euros fines(170€ is smallest fines here). On a small roads you can use chains but no big roads.
@@DustySenecal33 In Norway were i live you need to bring at least 7 chains on a truck and trailer during wintertime, and you must know how to use them as well :) And wintertyres are a must of course :)
The EU tractor trailer combination is unsuitable on icy and snowy roads. In winter in Scandinavia we see a lot of midle- and east european tractor trailers get stuck and and prevents normal truck traffic. The tractor has to be at least one meter longer than the EU-tractor to be safe on winter roads. Best is a 24 to 25,25 meter combination with a 3 axle truck (6 x 2) and a draw bar trailer.
it could've been must worse...there could have been a multi-vehicle crash like the ones in the USA which can involve 50 to 100 cars and trucks during a blizzard.
Questo non è un disastro di neve. Accade ogni anno in Italia, in Lombardia, in Veneto, in Trentino. La neve è normale e la quantità che si deposita non è particolarmente elevata. INoltre in febbraio sull'autostrada del brennero, al confine tra Italia e Austria, le nevicate sono fattori naturali che non dovrebbero destare particolari problemi. I mezzi devono essere attrezzati e si deve essere preparati a questo fin dai primi mesi di Dicembre. Quindi non è stata una nevicata eccezzionale a creare tutto questo ma l'incuria e l'assoluta mancanza di manutenzione che la società Autostrade dovrebbe e doveva fare. E che invece non ha fatto. Le colpe sono inoltre degli automobilisti ignari che non hanno osservato la prescrizione di dotarsi di mezzi antisdruciolevoli, catene o pneumatici da neve. A tutto questo si deve aggiungere l'inadeguatezza delle infrastrutture italiane che, difronte a 20 cm di neve, mandano al collasso una Autostrada e interi paesi e regioni. Non diamo la colpa a madre Natura. In questi casi Lei non c'entra nulla. Diamo la colpa a chi non ha fatto nulla per evitare tutto questo e chi si è avventurato in mezzo ad una tormenta senza sapere cosa stava facendo. E da italiano io mi vergogno ad avere un paese di ebeti che non è capace a pulire una Autostrada.
If too many people get stuck while there is heavy snow "starting"(!!) to come down, the snow plows cant´t pass ! By the way in italy they don´t use ordinary snow plows. We use 4 Wheel drive Lamborghini´s. :-)
@@filippo8195 ha ragione da vendere, con tutti i soldi che prendono sti parassiti statali, e poi non hanno i mezzi per spalare la neve, ma dove cazzo vivi???
A parte il fatto che la Sua risposta è tipicamente “ italiana “ nel senso solo offensiva e non costruttiva, molto poco civile insomma, devo farLe notare che il commento centra il nocciolo del problema. Impari ad essere obbiettivo è abbandoni questi toni da tifoso di calcio...
With single axle you have bigger load on it thus better traction in winter conditions to start moving. However it's better to have double-drive-axle when you are already in motion.
@@paulmartin1094 cool.! I know, if there is something the Austrians do well is knodels and snow-ploughing. Btw do the Germanics have snow ploughs that can squeeze to drive beteween and underneath 100s of trucks stuck in tbe snow?
The David no they don't,but it is normal on autobahn if there is a stall or holdup for the trucks to move to the right and cars move to the left,so that there is a clear path for police and emergency vehicles to travel,simple idea but it works very well,unlike other nations were the road is completely blocked with vehicles.
Ładnie posypało. Trochę sobie postaliście. Sporo ludzi krytykuje tu gościa z Ostrołęki, że zablokował autostradę. Może trzeba dodać jakieś info, że jednak nie ;) Jaka kamera?
The average truck driver in Southern Europe will never encounter driving conditions like this in their entire lifetime. Why waste money on snow chains when they're incredibly unlikely to be ever used?
main problem is that in winter on the northern part of the Brennero, a heavy snow can happen anytime. Still the maintenance failed and too many drivers didn't take the necessary precautions (ex. chains)
@@ArturKomorowski don't know if just lazy, they were on strike or no money, but not enough maintenance guys were deployed. And a lot of drivers (italians and foreigners) don't give a shit. Considering the amount of italian money this region is hoarding, what happened, is plainly moronic.
Sure. it’s good that for some time now data roaming in the EU is not ridiculously expensive. We've probably listened to half of the spotify 😂 “what does not kill you makes you stronger”.😎
California probably has as many trucks on their roads as all of eastern Europe. It's way more dangerous in California because none of the drivers there speak the same language, let alone English.
1. Ignore weather forecast. 2. Ignore road condition reports. 3. Head out on the highway in a snow storm. 4. Get delayed over night in your car. 5. Wonder at having such bad luck. .6. Post a video of the whole experience. 7. Continue to insist that humans are intelligent.
Al Tinfoil Sometimes there is simply no other option. You have to go and that's it. In my opinion, it is not bad weather forecasting (it was identical in Austria), but the lack of a prior reaction of Italian motorway services.
Artur K Thank you for Video . I have never driven that area so I can not comment about Italian Motorway service or lack thereof . I enjoyed seeing your adventure and the Brenner Pass Route .
This is winter ❄️ nothing strange. Problem was the trucks from eastern and south Europe with summer tires 🤬🤬🤬 See POLAND Truck at 8:48 … why no chains ??? So stupid truckers … wehre should road service Go when all the Highway is full of Trucks.
According to EU road regulations, winter tires are only valid on the drive axle. From 2020 they will also be mandatory on the front steering axle. To be honest, I saw more winter tires on trucks from the east than from the south. This is the climate we have 🙄
Artur K you are Right - but its good sense to have at least chains on board in not winter tires (helping also on non drive axles) Especially when doing routes like brenner pass ...never saw swiss Truckers from CH-Resia with this problems
I once sit on M1 in the morning for 3 hours to wait a helicoper. it was Christmas day 2017. People just get drunk at Christmas then carry on after. BTW what did you eat? did you go toilet??
At the end of this video you can notice the difference between a civilized country (Austria) and my country (Italy) where people must pay the most expensive tolls in Europe to get stuck in the snow for 24h (or more if you drive a truck) in december on a highway that crosses the mountains.
at 1:15 trafic signs say that you had to leave the Motorway in Brixen... in Italian and in German! but you were stuck between Frabzrnsfeste and Mauls (i recognize in the video...!) so maybe it would be useful to add English either... or using the good old CB - as there might have been also some polish speaking CB'ers on this Road...!
You are joking, right? How can trucks be stuck in so little snow? Perhaps they were all waiting for the truck ahead to get moving. I did not see any accident. But really that isn't much snow.
About the snowchains. Do you know guys, on the whole fucking Brenner motorway there is not enough shitty parking place? Late afternoon you can not even stop by truck to shit, if there is a call of nature. There is no place in those tiny Autogrill parkings. From Verona up to Brennero. On a simply day you have no chance to find a free place, let alone spending 20 minutes to put on the chains. And chains sometimes not enough. During a heavy snowfall, it would be better to pull aside, and wait for the next day. But where?
Sono di Genova e nell’entroterra nevica parecchio. Gli spazzaneve partono subito e gli autocarri bloccati . La stessa notte sulla Savona Torino sono caduti 40 cm e ci sono stati solo rallentamenti. É scandaloso che certi fatti accadano sul Brennero dove si dovrebbe essere attrezzati !
Hanno tanto la puzza sotto il naso questi mezzi tedeschi alto atesini e sono capaci di lasciar scendere 40cm di neve su un autostrada senza far entrare un paio di mezzi per carreggiata...
Just wander if people realize that that many trucks, every day, are necessary to keep them alive. Every thing else except, : electricity, gas and water, was or will have to be transported by truck so we can go on maintaining our marry go lucky life style. Every day of the year, every weather condition. Big cheers to the truckies of our world.
E le colpe gravi sono anche di quei camionisti che non capiscono che si devono mettere in coda a destra e non sorpassare se non sono in grado di avanzare. Ogni volta è la stessa cosa. ed ogni volta che nevica i disastri li creano in gran parte loro. Il video ne è prova lampante.
In queste condizioni, i camion devono essere fermati in basso (max Bolzano)... chi si avventura senza equipaggiamento invernale (camion o auto che sia) e blocca il traffico multone da ricordare a lungo... questa è la ricetta svizzera. Se non blocchi i camion prima, come cavolo fai a pulire le strade?
e a Bolzano dove metterli i camion, senza bloccar lì tutto? io sono stato a BZ il dì dopo... un macello, nei pressi della zona industriale e l'accesso all'A22... immagina un po se ci sarebbero stati pure anche questi
Rossdokta Mail in zone di montagna dovrebbero essere previste aree di sosta per i camion in questi casi, da sfruttare magari anche come centri di controllo viario o centri tecnici per il controllo dei veicoli pesanti (visti anche certi rottami di camion dell’est circolanti). Non conosco così bene la zona di Bolzano, ma nella mia zona (sono sulla via per il tunnel del San Gottardo e del San Bernardino, quindi conosco bene le problematiche.
And to sweden and finland. We not need thosekind drivers here in winter time. Weather like that scandinavian trucks still drives alteast 85km/h without any problems.
Dosent matter how meny trucks there see an hour. Only what is important are they stuck or moving foward. That 6000 trucks a hour not means anything if they all drive that normal speed then not come trafficjams and roads not need close.
Il problema sono i mezzi sprovvisti di gomme da neve che fanno la differenza, mentre la legge che dice o dotazioni invernali o catene a bordo è sbagliata, bisogna mettere solo gomme da neve!!!!
@@vedransylwiazembo1170 la strada non doveva comunque stare in quelle condizioni. La a22 si trova alle pendici delle Dolomiti, non sulla riviera salentina e siamo a dicembre. Chissà come mai in Austria non c'era neanche un fiocco di neve sul manto stradale... E paghiamo i pedaggi più alti d'Europa. Meglio che sto zitto altrimenti mi bannano dal tubo e mi querelano🤬
@@fecciargento5102 io ho lavorato 2 anni in Svezia sui lastbillar ovvero autotreno di 25,25 metri a 70 tonnellate, li le strade sono le stesse, i mezzi per la pulizia sono gli stessi che ci sono in Italia ma non arrivano a pulire tutto, di neve ce n'è molta di più per non parlare del ghiaccio con le dovuto dotazioni, gomme e catene, non ti fermi mai!! Anche se devi scendere ogni 10 km per mettere o togliere le catene si fa.
Kavaja Music I would love to, even though for a few moments we could sunbathe. It is a pity that in these Alpes heaped up so many hills that cover the sun, especially in winter morning 😎
Why are all the trucks that I seen Single screws ???? Not good for snow and mountains!! FYI They should be tandems with lockers and chained up !!! Then puter in the smoke hole let’s go you Aren’t making any money money sitting there!! Don’t be afraid of it !!!
I understand that many countries in Europe (like Austria) require passenger vehicles to have snow tyres in winter months. Does the same applies to lorries? Thx - Colorado winter warrior
Yes, that also applies to lorries. The tires aren't the problem here. The problem is that european 4x2 tractors have really shitty weight distribution for driving on snow. Even with chains they're fucked. On 4x2 trucks the fifth wheel is placed in front of the rear drive axle, thus distributing the weight between the rear drive axle and the (not driven) front axle. That's bad. In scandinavian countries as example you will rarely see 4x2. They drive 6x2 with a rear lift axle (middle axle is driven). The fifth wheel is placed exactly above or sometimes even slightly behind the driving axle, putting as much weight as possible on the driving axle once the rear axle is lifted. Norwegian trailers also often have the wheels placed further back because of this, so even more weight is put on the driving axle. Cargo placement in the trailer is also an issue.
All these trucks only have ONE rear axle! Pulling up to four axles in the semi-trailers... No wonder they are all fucked! (And to locking axles of course!)
yeah i was just wondering whats with all the 3 axle trailers.....must be hauling alot of weight but im sure their laws aren't the same but who knows lol....its Italy lol
