In German-speaking countries, there is an easy to remember shortcut to remember when to swap tyres: „O bis O“ („O to O“), meaning „Oktober bis Oster“ („October to Easter“). This is usually the time when ads start coming up from local garage chains with special offers for new tyres and swapping offers.
4:32 that map seems to be inaccurate. Wintertires are very much mandatory in Norway. We even allow for studded tires. Here in northern Norway we can use studded tires from 16. october to 1. mai.
As a Norwegian, I have two sets of wheels. I change to winter wheels around October/November and then back to summer wheels in March. I don't change them myself as I use a so-called "dekk-hotel" (dekk is Norwegian for tyre). They change the wheels and take care of the other set of wheels during the winter/summer seasons. They also do maintenance on my tyres and tell me when I need to get new ones. I use a company called Dekkmann which is part of the German Continental group (producers of tyres). Great service and the swop my wheels while I enjoy a cup of coffee.
Interesting! I plan to use Kwik Fit here which offers the same service. It’s funny that you also call it a tire hotel. They call it the same thing in Dutch “bandenhotel” 😂
I use the same concept via my local car dealership, the tires are stored and maintained at a large company that just works with car dealerships (not available directly by private persons). They check, clean and transport the wheels to the local car dealers just in time. If some tires are worn, you get informed ~ 1-2 months ahead of usual changing time, so you can order a new tire in advance.
@@Kerleem It would depend on other things but for me which is Swedish in southern half of Sweden (i have 12.5 hours to Ensched, though for that you are gonna drive continuosly) if i had my own shop where i could change tires in 20 mins or so - going to three different pairs could be useful (winter studless tires, studded winter and summer tires and or slicks.) On the roads in my area, winter and especially at end of winter, the roads can look like a hockey rink, so studded winter tires is basically an requirement.
I am a german from southern Germany living 1 hour from the alps and I put all-seasons on my car. I live in a big city and don't leave the city very often with this car. All-season tyres are ok but the car drives much worse. They get really bad above 25°C (70°F) and you can't go fast on snowy country roads or the Autobahn, even tho the Tyres are snow rated.
Advice from a 1M km driver : After driving with summer and winter tires for the last 20 years a ratio of 40000 km/year with a leased company car I can conclude that swapping tires 2x a year saves you money. My tires lasted approx. 60000km per set, both the summer set and the winter set. Since the average lease contract was 120000km or 3 years I needed two sets , one winter and one summer per car/contract. Important remark: rotate the front tires with the rear tires each time you swap, otherwise you'll end up buying two extra summer and two extra winter tires for you traction/propulsion axel. I have driven with Continental Conticontact tires for ages and they give you very good value for money. Drive safely!
It saves when you drive a lot. My ratio is 15000km/year mostly in big city. I have bought set of all-season tires. Why? Today is -8 gr C, next week it will be +10 gr C. Should I switch set from winter to summer due to threshold +7grC? No. Switching tires cost. Now in continental west and central Europe there are no strict winter seasons. It could be rainy and +6grC, it could be -5grC and snowy. Two changes per year + cost of storing wheels for two seasons is as much as cost of new pair of tires. Why cost of storing? We often live in flats, not houses with garages. And every year the wheel should be balanced. My current tires are Michelin CrossClimate+ and for me they are excellent!
@infeltk interesting. When your Cross Climate+ wear out, you might want to consider a different brand of tyre as the Cross Climate 2 have been reviewed and they are apparently more biased towards snow, than the other seasons, when compared to the Cross Climate+
im from Norway. you will lose your drivers licence and recive heavy fines if you are driving on summer tires after october 1. so that map at 4:30 is wrong
From what I've read online and seen on other tyre review sites, there are some differences between US and Europe/UK terms. For example, an All Season tyre in the UK, is designed for all seasons, including winter and will have the TPMSF mark. Whereas All Season tire in the US is actually not really suitable for winter and will not have TPMSF mark. To get a US tire with the TPMSF mark, you need an All Weather tire. Confusing, so take in to consideration when watching or reading tyre reviews online. Here in the UK, most tyres on offer are Summer tyres, with a small handful of winter tyre options, and more recently, a selection of All Season tyres with the TPMSF mark. Our main roads are generally treated for snow and ice, and as you say, winter tyres are not mandatory here. Problems start if you live in a more rural area, away from the main roads. I personally have just replaced my Goodyear Eagle F1s for Goodyear Vector 4 gen-3: an All Season tyre as having driven a car with Winter tyres, I can tell you that whilst they make a difference, the amount of extreme weather in my area calling for Winter tyres is limited, so as such, I think the All Season tyre is a good compromise here. If I lived in Scotland or the Lake District, I would be more likely to consider Winter tyres.
Here in Finland winter tyres are mandatory. Everyone has another set of wheels with the winter tyres and even on newer cars steelies with the winter tyres are common. I’ve noticed that alloy wheels are common in the summer and when winter comes many cars are on steel wheels.
That's no longer exactly the case. It depends on the conditions. For example if it's warm and dry in January, you can legally drive around with summer tyres.
Austrian here, wintertires are important, because even the few times the snow does come to the eastern part of the country in winter, summertires are just. The horror to drive in in such conditions, and you will be fined or the insurance won't pay if you get into an accident. And especially in the eastern part of Austria, summer regularly gets up to 35°C now, so all-weather/all-season tires are getting less and less popular by the year because they are not good for the heat either
In Sweden wintertyres are mandatory. If you live in northern sweden wintertyres with steelstuds are the most common. But if you live in southern sweden those winter friction tyres are more common. But neither of what tyres you choosed. Driving on an road with black ice can be an unpleasent surprise in any case what tyres you have.
winter tires are only good for mild winters (the ones you shown at around 8:00) up here in northern scandinavia, winter tires without studs in them will only get you into an early grave. Regular winter tires are actually trash when it comes to anything more than really soft and wet snow and some scarce patches of ice. Regular winter tires up here offer no grip whatsoever, and it's alway fun to see southerners drive up here and then get stuck at a traffic light or in their parking spot lol
British Columbia does mandate winter tires in some regions and yeah it is from October 1 to April 30 and those where it isn’t it is still recommended for anything under 7°C. Especially considering how mountainous the terrain is and that includes urban areas, just look at Metro Vancouver there’s hills everywhere and when it snows it gets very slippery.
In Germany tires with the alpine or snow flake symbol are mandatory in winter conditions if I read correctly. So all seasons are fine too, if they have that symbol on them. As 4 season tire technology progresses fast, it's wise to take the newest tires by well known manufacturers.
Winter tires are great in cold areas with snow, but where i live GOOD all year tires are great. The bad ones have the drawbacks of both types. But i learned to drive in the snowy Alps, so for me driving in snow and ice is fun. Also changing tires twice a year is a hassle.
I am using winter tires since I got my first car in ~1976. Though I do not actually keep to the O-O „rule“ rigidly, I usually use them between November and March. Though I do not live high up, in the area I live in are quite steep roads which you definitely could not go up in snow when equipped with summer tires. 4 season tires might be suitable in the lower Rhine area, say Cologne or Düsseldorf area, if you just not need to drive regularly every day, if you can skip a day driving. For me 4 season tires would be a bad choice, for others it might work fine. I would neither use 4 season tires, nor would I not use winter tires during winter. IMHO winter tires are the right , the best choice for me.
In Siberia all-Season tyres are considered as summer tyres. What you call Winter are very rare here and called "Eurowinter" and Nordic are winter. Can be designated by deep agressive "crocodile scales" tread with sharp edges and cool naming, like "Nordman Ice Contact Nord Frost Havoc Dominator Tornadic Winds EF666". On dry and hard surface summer tyres are always better than winter, even at -15°C. Narrow tyres are good for ice and rolled hard snow and wide ones for deep puffy snow. Also there is the "More weight - more grip" rule. Rav4-like light SUVs can use non-studded tyres. Chevrolet Tahoe or Toyota Hilux looks fine with mud-terrain and even all-terain. Semis and buses uses just regular freight tyres all winter. But on an icy uphill non-studded are probably messed up, if not using chains. Studded are good above -25°C (-13°F) and fits for a small town and intercity or cross-country roads. Non-studded tyres can stand -35°C (-31°F) because of softer rubber and are good for big cities with ice-melting chemicals. Below -40°C (-40°F) it doesn't really matter. Any tyre from circle becomes square or triangle. With locked suspensions it feels like a wooden wheels cart. A mobile freezer-vibrojumper. I recommend you somehow to try a car with nordic-winter studded tyres, because it could be interesting driver expirience. Btw, be carefull at braking, due to it soft nature, those are bad at it. But in a worst-case scenario, like "an uphill road, covered with ice, that covered with snow above" studded are awesome! Anyway, using two sets of tires sounds reasonable, because of treadlife loss on winter wheels in warm weather and safety issues with summer tyres on ice and snow.
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Even ignoring the added peace of mind, swapping tires is probably cheaper since wear is reduced during the summer and summer tires get better mileage.
I ordered a extra set steel rim winter wheels for my bmw. But the dealer refused to put steel rims under a bmw so I got a extra set aluminum rims for free.😅
'all-season' is really a bad catch-all term for those tires. Yes, there are summer and winter tires, winter tires can be studded or not studded. But a non-studded winter tire, even though it can be run all year round (and that would make it an 'all-season' tire), it is strongly recommended not to do so. This is because there are different rubber compounds for Nordic climate non-studded tires (M+S and three peaks) and for British or Central European winter climate 'all-season' tires (just M+S). It is a big difference whether your winter is -5 centigrade and some slush or -40 and frozen packed snow. And, if you touch it, a non-studded Nordic winter tire, at 0 centigrade or above, is as soft between fingers as an average mud tire. And so, even if a non-studded Nordic winter tire can be run all year round (and with premium tires, you might not even notice much of a difference in summertime performance), at an average yearly mileage, you will probably wear away most of the sipe depth on tire with a single year of summer use. And on a non-studded tire, sipes give you that snow and ice grip. With a tire compound aimed at more temperate winters, or occasional use in the Alps, running them all year round is not much of a problem, but at extreme colds, their usefulness is likewise greatly diminished. This is why in my home country (Estonia) there are voices recommending keeping three sets of tires. One for summer, one non-studded for soft winters and one studded for those few months when roads are packed with hard frozen snow and night temperatures drops below -15 centigrade. This is mainly to decrease the amount of wear the studded tires inflict on pavement in cities where salt keeps the roads clear in mild winters. With pickup trucks and SUVs which have clearance for offroad tires, dedicated winter tires are not really needed (this is due to weight really). Just get as streetable as possible mud tire, or as knobby as possible all-terrain tire, get it siped, and it will run just as good as a dedicated Nordic snow tire. Not kidding, I have been running siped Hankook Dynapro MT tires all year round for 5 years now, and studded Goodyear Ultragrip Ice Arctic is only marginally better in snow and on ice. Of course, I am running those tires on a truck weighing 2.6 tons metric, empty. My lighter passenger car still gets studded winter tires.
Last season with the snow fall we also did not have winter tires. Because of covid it wasn't necessary. Usually we do have them on in the winter, because we go to Austria every year. But last Febuary not. Our car handeled it great no struggle whatshowever on the summer tires.
What is better is if you buy a set of winter tyres is to select a smaller size then your summer tyres. Smaller tyres have more grip in snow conditions.
If you changed your wheels to a smaller size here in the UK, your insurance company would class that as a modification & charge you considerably more for your insurance, better to keep your OEM wheels.
@@Kerleem No it is not mandated province wide; essentially on any highways that aren’t in Vancouver there are signs that dictate when and where you need winter tires (usually this is outside of city limits)
Tire swap cost 70 dollars every time, not that expensive, but I like a extra set of rims. I can swap them when I want myself. It saves time and a little money.
Off topic: Do you really call your car a “one one eight i”? That’s the first time I’ve heard someone call a 118i that. We say “one eighteen”, I guess because the first is the car series, and the next two indicated the engine size (18 = 1800cc, 20 = 2000cc etc). Nowadays, a 118i doesn’t have an 1800 cc engine anymore, nor does a 330i have a three liter engine.
Yeah, I never really thought about it! I do say "one one eight" because it's not an "even 10s" number like "320" or "330"...in those cases I would say "three twenty"
Georgia should mandate winter tires! Ever driven in Atlanta when it snows ? Everyone's stuck! Especially those cheap ass drivers who drive 2WD (and RWD) pickup trucks! Luxembourg also requires winter tires in "winter conditions" ... whatever that means. Four season tires are acceptable. I wonder whether mudgrips would be acceptable 🤔 ....
haha yeah I guess snow is so rare in Atlanta, it would be hard to justify. It surprises me that the northern states that get a lot of snow don't officially mandate winter tires.
@@Kerleem, you have already told it in the video: this is arguably the most important part of the car, if we’re speaking about safety. You never know, how it was used before. For example one can damage the inner structure of the tire on a curb in a way that you can’t see it on the surface. And you like driving on the autobahn. Physics are a bit “different” over 140 mph ;)
you know I got a great idea for you to improve knowledge on car parts and how they work on what. Every played simulation car games, Right now im doing Forza where you can adjust a lot of settings, most cars tune equal to how they would in real life with the parts. Winter tires are used 1x a month (7 days seasons) so every month has 1 week of winter, where you can see how much performance is gained from different tire compounds. Hope that helps.
In most of the UK, putting on winter tyres is rare. It's only really in the northerly parts of Scotland that this is common. In most of the UK, winters are mild and winter tyres may not be the best anyway. I can see why they might be mandated in countries with much colder winters, but I'm a bit surprised to hear it's significant in the Netherlands, which also has fairly mild winters. That's especially so with global warming. The Netherlands has the Elfstedentocht, which is the longest and largest ice skating race in the world, but is only held when the canals have at least 15cm of natural ice. That it has only been held 3 times in the last 50 years, and not at all in the last 25 years rather reinforces this point that the winters are now rather mild.
@@Kerleem like no offense meant by this but literally you're a stupid american with an insane car culture, of course you'll never comprehend why you'd need studded tires lol
