Do you not then create the exact same problem upstairs if that switch was also a 2Gang switch, your landing pendant will be on downstairs and then maybe the hall will be on upstairs, essentially creating the same problem with 2 circuits in the same light switch.. if im understanding this correctly the only use for this would be if the landing switch was a 1Gang switch? Thanks for all the resources and time you have spent on helping me and my training.
I'd always use black as my neutral (same as old colours) as the colour grey is a phase too. As long as identifier is used as per BS it's fine either way and can't be criticised. NB - non qualified persons should not be working on electrical systems as per BS also
Issues arises when installer used Black Conductor as Neutral & left it Unmarked (not over-sleeved whatsoever) as if it's in Old Wiring Colour Standards. No way can the New Wiring Colour Standards & Old Wiring Colour Standards co-exists within a 3Core+E cables.🚫
@@temp06j723-pmeighttq issue MAY arise to non trained but as I said before, as per BS, as long as cable is identified and non trained persons should not be working on systems, all is OK. How do you deal with a 7 core sy control cable which is all black or another similar cable? .
iCant someone just speak my language and say this x color wire goes here that color goes in there - i have a double switch - 3 different sets of wires - totally baffled anyone???lol
Need to look up that video, see if it says why conduit uses the switches the other way around. Here in the Netherlands basically everything is conduit and indeed basically everything is *that* wiring method.
Very well explained as per usual Gaz. I❤ use this method a lot of the times. Thanks to you.! Can you please, please do a video on how to read electrical drawing with ease especially when working on construction site.? Your help would be appreciated. Thanks
Gary, After all these years, why does the UK still use something as antiquated as the 3-plated switch method, we stopped using this in New Zealand under the 1976 Regulations here, although you still see the remnants of this in some houses. Nowadays, we loop everything at the flushboxes for the lighting switches and send a Phase, Neutral and CPC to each individual light fitting from the flushbox and have your strap wires merely head to the other end of your two way switch, which means they are only fed from one end. Don't get me wrong, your explanations are perfect and really on point for an apprentice coming into the trade. Good advice also, that you need to test for correct isolation no matter what you are working on, no-one likes a surprise like that.
I fitted two way switches top and bottom so you could turn on/off both up and downstairs lights from either top or bottom of the stairs It had been a while since I'd done wiring so I used your videos to help And what a help they were too 👍
@@davidpestell1981 I ran two lots of 4 core to both switch locations 👍 It was the thing that used to bug me the most when we had our last rewire and the guy didn't do it So this time I did it myself and made sure 😁 I was also tempted with the quinetic stuff so round the house but the cost was prohibitive as we've got 26 light switches around the house so I could only budget for 3
@@therealdojj is that 2 lots of 3 core between the switches or from each pendant to each switch? I’ve currently designed it with 2 core from each pendant to their respective light switches, and two three cores between the two switches. Plus a 2 core between the two pendants which now looks like overkill as it doesn’t implement the two strappers approach.
@@davidpestell1981 I made it very simple by keeping it the same, but for both switches, if you see what I mean I used a 3 core to do one for downstairs Then I simply repeated that for the upstairs lights I'm sure there are better and cleverer methods but if it's not broke... I also utilised the larger chase I did too run an extra switch for the "no one's going to be home but you need some lights when you come back late in the night but you don't want every light to be on either" lights I also tapped into the lighting circuit for my doorbell feed, but that's another story for another day
Because it is a Neutral that is Looped-Thru & that conductor is serving as a Neutral Conductor for the Lamp Circuit. You wouldn't want to Brown-Oversleeving any Neutral Conductor(s), isn't it??😧
Could you have a two gang switch upstairs to control the downstairs hallway light as well. Let say if I went upstairs and I forgot to switch the downstairs hallway light off, I could then switch both lights off and on from upstairs. I take It I would have to an additional cable in.
